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Author Topic: Uncovered: The REAL 13th Amendment Will Indict, Prosecute, & Kill the NWO!!  (Read 22325 times)
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« Reply #80 on: July 06, 2009, 09:02:25 PM »

Good...should be interesting reading.  I'm looking around at books.  I have a local source I need to check before I really search online.  Know a man who has lots of old, old books.  He'll be interested in the 13th Amendment stuff, if he doesn't know about it already.  Bet he does.  He's told me for years that old books are best because they keep changing things.  He's right.

Let us know if the books turn up anything interesting.
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« Reply #81 on: July 06, 2009, 09:08:57 PM »

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Let us know if the books turn up anything interesting.

 Will do. Surprised how cheap i got them , 5 bucks for the harvard one 25 for the one you posted.   
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« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2009, 10:22:02 PM »

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« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2009, 08:31:50 AM »

Ok i got the 1855 publication discussed above and just wanted to correct the seller's mistake. The bulk of what we are discussing as the 13th amendment is not an amendment at all but is in the first article of the Constitution. It is Article 1 section 9 (not 4) part 8. It states

"No title of nobility shall be granted by the united states: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall without the consent of Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state".

 This is still in the constitution which, apparently, doesnt mean anything anymore. Its there, just not enforced.

 ttp://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec9

 So i guess that wraps up the 13th amendment story.
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« Reply #84 on: July 11, 2009, 12:10:27 PM »

 I was just looking back and realized the part about ceasing to be a citizen as punishment for breaking this law was perhaps added in a 13th amendment now missing. The 1855 publication i just bought only lists 12 amendments.  So i guess if it was added it was after 1855...
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At the heart of that Western freedom and democracy is the belief that the individual man, the child of God, is the touchstone of value..." -RFK
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« Reply #85 on: July 12, 2009, 11:33:33 AM »

JT, when was the BAR exam first required in the U.S.?  Was it a national requirement or a individual state's requirement.  Then if passing the BAR, did that automatically assign one the title of Esquire?  My best friend had some questions.

The curiosity stems from this:  What was the requirement for one to be an attorney here in the U.S. prior to the BAR practice.  If there was a system of exams at that time why did we go to the Brits for the Law exams.

If the Article 13 prevents dual citizens from assigning laws, then wouldn't all subsequent laws passed be null and void?
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« Reply #86 on: September 02, 2009, 03:19:01 PM »

JT, when was the BAR exam first required in the U.S.?  Was it a national requirement or a individual state's requirement.  Then if passing the BAR, did that automatically assign one the title of Esquire?  My best friend had some questions.

The curiosity stems from this:  What was the requirement for one to be an attorney here in the U.S. prior to the BAR practice.  If there was a system of exams at that time why did we go to the Brits for the Law exams.

If the Article 13 prevents dual citizens from assigning laws, then wouldn't all subsequent laws passed be null and void?

I'm not sure exactly when it became mandatory for lawyers and attorneys to submit to and pass the BAR examination. You can pretty much assume however that it became a requirement within the last 100 years or so.

As to the determination of which the laws, that have been passed subsequent to this shenanigan, as well as other shenanigans we have discussed on these pages... this is the primary reason for the 10th amendment state sovereignty movement, where the states legislatures can independently examine all laws, amendments, and court rulings handed down by the federal power since, but not to include, the Constitution as it was ratified on December 15, 1791, in convention, in the city of New York by Congress.

All laws from that date, and all rulings pertaining to those laws, and rulings supporting all laws, as well as constitutional amendments, all executive orders and presidential decision directives, etc. will become open to the state legislatures for constitutional scrutiny... this includes Justice Marshall's controversial decision in 1803 concerning Marbury versus Madison, and the incredibly destructive DC organic act of February 21, 1871, which setup a corporate shadow government.

We know now how the founders meant for us to use the 9th and 10th amendments as ratified... now to keep the federal power from killing all of us before we get the word out, and get the job done... I hate Fascists!

I think Abraham Lincoln said it best...

--Oldyoti

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress
and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but
to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

--Abraham Lincoln
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« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2011, 12:24:55 AM »

Bump.  Everyone should read this.
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« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2011, 09:47:48 AM »

http://www.constitutionalconcepts.org/13thamend-%20facts.htm

The 13th Article of Amendment
to the original Constitution of the United States of America

“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”

There is some question as to Lincoln's involvement in the disappearance of the TONA 13th... I have no doubt that he was outspoken on the assumption of only 12 amendments to the Constitution. In his Feb. 27, 1860, Cooper Union speech, he states several times that the only thing to consider on the subject of federal control of slavery in the territories is the Constitution and it's 12 amendments... this was prior to his election... his work on the anti slavery amendment (many call it Lincoln's 14th), most of which was purged after his death and before it was proposed,  suggests that the protraction of the war may have changed his stand on the Titles Of Nobility Amendment 13...

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« Reply #89 on: January 05, 2013, 02:16:51 AM »

Given the new Article by Melissa Melton on the Second Amendment titled:

Vanity Fair: “Let’s Repeal the Second Amendment”

I think this thread should be revisited giving special attention to post #71 which deals directly with shenanigans against the 2nd Amendment, and other parts of the Constitution that the globalists fiddled with for future operations they had planned...Including the disappearance of the Original 13th Amendment, because "Nothing in politics happens by accident" --FDR.

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a power sufficient to any other power in the state."

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« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2013, 01:49:31 PM »

Like anyone cares what a girl's magazine has to say.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #91 on: January 08, 2013, 09:53:41 PM »

Like anyone cares what a girl's magazine has to say.   Roll Eyes

Given the fact that 56% of the country's population and growing, are "girls"... and many of them live by what is said in Vanity Fair and other magazines like it... maybe a re-think is in order.

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