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« on: February 13, 2009, 09:48:00 PM »

I could not believe this when I saw it. Please go to
 http://www.weathermod.com/
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2009, 09:57:24 PM »

Great find! I like all the pictures and the section on Seeding equipment,

http://www.weathermod.com/seeding_equipment.php


Hey also going to add in this link to a .gov website that was posted earlier in this forum but you have a great title and it might be helpful.

http://www.asp.bnl.gov/
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2009, 10:00:23 PM »

WOW let's see people try and deny this one.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2009, 10:05:46 PM »

Folks, weather modification is nothing new. They used it during Vietname to cause massive floods to all the Vietcong supply roads to turn them intoa muddy soup. Another example is that the The Chinese government currently gives the peasent farmers in the country bazookas that shoot a particulate into the air to cause clouds to form and thus rain.

Wikipedia will likely tell you the same type of information concerning Weather Modification.

Anyhow I'm glad you found that and decided to share.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 10:06:03 PM »

Weather Weapons

http://aboutfacts.net/Weapons40.htm


And Who Made You God ?

http://www.squidoo.com/modifyweather
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 10:11:48 PM »

Vietnam was a war zone! Hello 
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 10:14:17 PM »

I think this issue and the over all issue of Eugenics would be the most effective issues to wake people up. Why? because it effects everyone
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2009, 10:14:55 PM »

Well, I wasn't around until 1968 and even as I got older, I don't recall funny looking clouds as a child, and I played outside in the summer months ALL day.  I still think it's crazy.  Who's that whacko that thinks up this shit anyway?  Crazy.

Rest assured 1968 was not the beginning of weather modification! It's just the first example that came to my mind.

Chemtrails are indeed a reality, as per the scientific evidence of soil samples, air samples, and water samples for trances of barium and alluminium. Back when they began the operation sometimes the particulate fungal jelly foam goop, whatever it happened to be seen as from the person reporting, would land on cars and sidewalks. The microscopic photography evidence is likely from that time peroid but I'm not an expert on the subject. Good film to watch is "Don't Talk About The Weather (2008)" It isn't particularly pretty in it's composition but it is the largest compilation of photage, news clips, and subliminal data in one film that I have seen.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2009, 10:17:08 PM »

Oh yeah, great find.

Lead me here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_chemistry


google: Atmospheric chemistry barium

google: Atmospheric chemistry aluminum

(pages don't link at adsabs.harvard.edu)
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2009, 10:17:51 PM »

I think this issue and the over all issue of Eugenics would be the most effective issues to wake people up. Why? because it effects everyone

Actually I'm going to have to disagree with you. People chose not to see that Chemtrails are not normal Contrails because it is not apparently obvious to the untrained eye. I have woken people up about fluoride, executive orders, the police state, and 911, but still those same people look at me like I have an incurrable highly contagious disease whenever I mention Chemtrails.

I hope you have better luck but I gave up on that particular subject for the time being. Noticed that Alex Jones doesn't bring it up often either?
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 10:18:06 PM »

Alex has had the guy who runs this company on the show before.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 10:23:31 PM »

really didn't know that guy was on the show. I understand the incremental health attacks from the contents of chemtrails and Eugenics are bad. My thinking is people are selfish and it effects them. Cops breath and have kids and so do the Military people. I know it is hard also.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2009, 10:27:19 PM »

My thinking is people are selfish and it effects them.

My father still chews Aspartame gum and my Grandparents still drink Diet Soda.

It's an OK sounding theory but it doesn't do well my own experience.

The scientific data is the most important factor in proving them to be a reality to others.

You should watch "Don't Talk About The Weather" though, you may get some ideas of how to approach people on the subject.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 10:35:38 PM »

We have been studying weather modification since the 1940's.  There are many projects on it.

Here is an interesting read on the subject:


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http://twm.co.nz/wxwar.html
Weather Modification
Philip L. Hoag
Weather modification technology is in use today by both the United States and the Soviet Union. Both the U.S. and Soviet projects involve the manipulation of the ionosphere and the alteration of the earth’s magnetic fields. This technology seems to have both localized and global capabilities. Evidence indicates that this technology also has the capability of manipulating human behavior and mood patterns.

Nikola Tesla
All of this seemingly Star Trek-like technology originated from a Serbian immigrant named Nikola Tesla who came to the United States just before the turn of the century. This man, without question, proved to be the greatest scientific genius of this century. Tesla worked with both Westinghouse and Edison during the infancy of electricity and it was actually Tesla who developed alternating current.
Tesla also experimented with electromagnetic flux and studied the earth’s gravitational field. During his research he discovered that the ionization of the atmosphere would alter when it was charged by radio wave transmissions in the low frequency range of 10 to 80 hertz. Tesla also discovered that he could cause both positive and negative ionization of the atmosphere by manipulating the radio frequency. Further studies indicated that with positive ionization, people and animals became tired and lethargic and with negative ionization the effect was one of feeling active and energetic.
Another interesting aspect of this technology is the effect which harmonious radio frequencies make when they impact air molecules. The molecules become excited and give off negatively charged electrons which readily combine with hydrogen and oxygen to produce water molecules. But even more profound is the fact that this type of radio wave also carries positively charged ions through the ionosphere into the magnetosphere. The positively charged ions then become trapped in the Van Allen belts, traveling between the Aurora Borealis and the Aurora Australis, right where we coincidentally have holes in the ozone layers.
Freon, the ozone killer, by its nature dissipates quickly. This inherent quality is a contradiction to the concept that a concentration of freon is creating holes in the ozone layers at the North and South Poles. However, when radio waves hit already unstable freon precipitates, they are so reactive that they can not move on and dissipate into the magnetosphere.

As far-fetched as this subject may seem, leaders in the elite global establishment have intimated the existence of this technology and its capabilities. In 1970 Zbigniew Brzezinski published a book titled Between Two Ages. Brzezinski is one of the founding directors of the Trilateral Commission. In this book he said, "Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised…Technology of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm."

Further confirmation of the Western power elite’s interest in weather modification was revealed in an article which appeared in the September 12, 1989 edition of the Washington Post. This article reported on the 1989 Tokyo conference on global environment. The president of the World Bank, Barber Conable, who is also a Trilateral Commission member, gave a speech in which he outlined the long-range goals of the one world elite. In this speech he said, "while higher temperatures may cause ‘a number of natural disasters,’ they might also warm cold and unproductive lands in the north into productivity."

There is very good evidence that the one world group and the Soviets have been jointly involved in weather modification over the Northern Hemisphere since the early 1970s. In 1971 it was alleged that the U.S. and the Soviets started cooperating in secret weather modification projects. One such project was named POLEX, Polar Experiment of the Global Atmospheric Research Program, and another in 1973 was called AIDJEX, the Arctic Ice Dynamics Joint Experiment. It is purported that these experiments involved attempts to melt the polar ice cap. Other U.S. projects such as Nile Blue and Climate Dynamics involved the changing of the arctic ice pack. There was even an article in the December 16, 1980, edition of the New York Times discussing a joint U.S.-Soviet project involving the transmission of ELF waves from Antarctica designed "to interfere with the earth’s magnetic field."

Soviet Woodpecker System
The Soviet weather modification project is referred to as the Woodpecker system. It involves the transmissions of extreme low frequency (ELF) waves at about 10 hertz using Tesla transmitters in Angarsk and Khabarovsk in Siberia, Gomel, Sakhalin Island, Nikolayev in the Ukraine, Riga in Latvia and also a site 60 miles south of Havana in Cuba. To give you an idea of the magnitude of this system, the facility near Havana, Cuba, is said to be maintained and operated by a staff of 2,500 Soviet personnel.
These transmitters generate electromagnetic transmissions that produce an ELF scalar grid over the United States. This is done by transmitting these low frequency scalar waves in pairs so that they converge at a predetermined point on the earth’s surface and cause a disruption of the atmosphere. This technology can be used to alter the course of the jet stream and set up long- term weather blocks.

Long-term Weather Blocking
The long-lasting California drought in the 80s was caused by a massive ridge of high pressure 800 miles off the California coast which hovered for extended periods of time, blocking the usual flow of moist air coming in from the Pacific and pushing storms around to the north. Meteorologists who have analyzed this phenomena consider it to be one of the most unusual national patterns ever recorded, unique in the annals of weather recording. Such long-lasting centers of high pressure were unheard of until 1977. Evidence suggests that this was possibly caused by Woodpecker generated giant standing ELF waves which are transmitted by the Soviets intentionally to block the flow of normal weather patterns.
This phenomenon of long-lasting centers of high pressure is not limited to producing drought. In 1993 the Midwest region experienced severe flooding which was a result of the wettest period in this particular area since rainfall record keeping began in 1876. This flood was a result again of what meteorologists called a blocking pattern.
The normal weather systems usually move from west to east across the U.S., but during the ’93 flood the weather systems stalled for six weeks over the upper Midwest. A high pressure system over the eastern part of the United States was causing warm, moist air to move up from the Gulf of Mexico and dump moisture in the Midwest, where it met the jet stream. This weather pattern involved an unusual shift in the jet stream, which during the summer is usually weak and typically found much farther north in Canada.
This stationary high pressure front also blocked the path of cold Canadian air, resulting in record low temperatures in the Northwest. According to the September 1993 issue of Storm, The World Weather Magazine:
"It is extremely unusual for weather patterns to persist for so many weeks, bringing heavy rainfall to the same area almost on a daily basis… The reasons for the weather patterns to become fixed, as they did in June and July, 1993, are unclear."

GWEN
A system somewhat similar to the Soviet Woodpecker has been set up in the United States called the Ground Wave Emergency Network, or GWEN. This network was built under the guise, or possible dual use, of an emergency communication system that would not be interrupted by electromagnetic pulse during a nuclear war.
GWEN units are capable of altering the magnetic field within a 200- to 250-mile radius. The individual units themselves are made up of 300-foot tall towers which transmit radio waves through hundreds of bare copper wires which are each 300 feet in length. These wires are buried in the ground in a spoke pattern radiating out from the base of the tower. The wires interact with the earth like a thin-shelled conductor, radiating the radio wave energy for very long distances through the ground.
These units are located in Texas, Nevada, Maine, North Carolina, Maryland, Georgia, Oregon, Washington, California, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, New York, Alabama, Virginia, Kansas, Nebraska, New Jersey, Arkansas, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, Colorado and Montana.
There is fairly significant evidence to suggest that these GWEN units in combination with the Soviet Woodpecker transmissions made a significant contribution to creating the extensive flooding in the Midwest in 1993.

It is interesting to note that the Russians are now openly marketing a small version of their weather engineering system called Elate, which can fine tune weather patterns over a 200-mile area. These units seem to have the same range as the individual GWEN unit. One of these Elate units operates at Moscow’s Bykovo Airport.

The threats of weather warfare, totalitarian government and famine dovetail together. As we saw in the famine which the Soviets artificially created in the Ukraine prior to World War II, famine is an effective means of subjugating a people. By controlling food, you can control people. Weather modification can affect food production and eventually the available supply. Starving resisters out is much more effective than having to track them down and shoot it out with them. If you have not surrendered your weapons, you don’t get a food ration coupon. Long-term food storage, well hidden, is the only insulation against famine and totalitarian oppression.

Tesla-Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons
An article in the spring 1993 edition of Orbis Magazine reported on another article which had appeared in the 1992 edition of a Russian magazine called Military Thought. This article, among other things, revealed Soviet involvement in the development of Tesla-scalar electromagnetic weapons: "…The current civil-military consensus also includes an image of future war based on the development and deployment of advanced conventional munitions, direct-energy weapons, space-based strike weapons and anti-ballistic missiles, and third-generation nuclear weapons."
Copyright © 1996, 1998.Yellowstone River Publishing. All rights Reserved.
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E-Mail the author: Philip L. Hoag

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This book can only briefly cover the subjects of weather modification and tesla-scalar electromagnetic weapons. An extensive well documented analysis of weather warfare and other excellent documentaries on the Soviets can be obtained from Mr. C.B. Baker, Youth Action News, P.O. Box 312, Alexandria, Virginia, 22313. Also, books concerning Nikola Tesla and Tesla technology can be obtained from the Tesla Book Company, P.O. Box 121873, Chula Vista, CA 91912, (800) 398-2056.
Dr. Nick Begich has recently published a book regarding the U.S. Government’s Woodpecker type project in Alaska which is named High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP). This book is titled, Angels Don’t Play This HAARP, ISBN 0-9648812-0-9. The book costs $14.95 and can be ordered from Earthpulse Press, P.O. Box 201393, Anchorage, Alaska, 99520, (907) 249-9111 (voice mail).
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 10:36:38 PM »

My DH posed a great question about this the other day, and it may sound like a stupid question, but how are "they" keeping themselves, and their families from getting harmed by this?  Is there something they are taking that keeps the effects at bay or something?

Sure, there are plenty of plants that remove heavy metals and kill fungus in the human body. Would you like a list?
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2009, 10:37:10 PM »

Weather warfare
http://www.theecologist.org/pages/archive_detail.asp?content_id=1215
Michel Chossudovsky 22/05/2008

Beware the US military’s experiments with climatic warfare, says Michel Chossudovsky


Rarely acknowledged in the debate on global climate change, the world’s weather can now be modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated electromagnetic weapons. Both the US and Russia have developed capabilities to manipulate the climate for military use. 

Environmental modification techniques have been applied by the US military for more than half a century. US mathematician John von Neumann, in liaison with the US Department of Defense, started his research on weather modification in the late 1940s at the height of the Cold War and foresaw ‘forms of climatic warfare as yet unimagined’.

During the Vietnam war, cloud-seeding techniques were used, starting in 1967 under Project Popeye, the objective of which was to prolong the monsoon season and block enemy supply routes along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

The US military has developed advanced capabilities that enable it selectively to alter weather patterns. The technology, which is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), is an appendage of the Strategic Defense Initiative – ‘Star Wars’. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, operating from the outer atmosphere and capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems around the world.

Weather-modification, according to the US Air Force document AF 2025 Final Report, ‘offers the war fighter a wide range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary’, capabilities, it says, extend to the triggering of floods, hurricanes, droughts and earthquakes: ‘Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally… It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather… and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of [military] technologies.’

In 1977, an international Convention was ratified by the UN General Assembly which banned ‘military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects.’ It defined ‘environmental modification techniques’ as ‘any technique for changing – through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes – the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space.’

While the substance of the 1977 Convention was reasserted in the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) signed at the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio, debate on weather modification for military use has become a scientific taboo. Military analysts are mute on the subject. Meteorologists are not investigating the matter and environmentalists are focused on greenhouse gas emissions under the Kyoto Protocol. Neither is the possibility of climatic or environmental manipulations as part of a military and intelligence agenda, while tacitly acknowledged, part of the broader debate on climate change under UN auspices.

The HAARP Programme

Established in 1992, HAARP, based in Gokona, Alaska, is an array of high-powered antennas that transmit, through high-frequency radio waves, massive amounts of energy into the ionosphere (the upper layer of the atmosphere). Their construction was funded by the US Air Force, the US Navy and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

Operated jointly by the Air Force Research Laboratory and the Office of Naval Research, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of creating ‘controlled local modifications of the ionosphere’. According to its official website, www.haarp.alaska.edu, HAARP will be used ‘to induce a small, localized change in ionospheric temperature so physical reactions can be studied by other instruments located either at or close to the HAARP site’.

But Rosalie Bertell, president of the International Institute of Concern for Public Health, says HAARP operates as ‘a gigantic heater that can cause major disruptions in the ionosphere, creating not just holes, but long incisions in the protective layer that keeps deadly radiation from bombarding the planet’. Physicist Dr Bernard Eastlund called it ‘the largest ionospheric heater ever built’.

HAARP is presented by the US Air Force as a research programme, but military documents confirm its main objective is to ‘induce ionospheric modifications’ with a view to altering weather patterns and disrupting communications and radar. According to a report by the Russian State Duma: ‘The US plans to carry out large-scale experiments under the HAARP programme [and] create weapons capable of breaking radio communication lines and equipment installed on spaceships and rockets, provoke serious accidents in electricity networks and in oil and gas pipelines, and have a negative impact on the mental health of entire regions.’

An analysis of statements emanating from the US Air Force points to the unthinkable: the covert manipulation of weather patterns, communications and electric power systems as a weapon of global warfare, enabling the US to disrupt and dominate entire regions.

Weather manipulation is the pre-emptive weapon par excellence. It can be directed against enemy countries or ‘friendly nations’ without their knowledge, used to destabilise economies, ecosystems and agriculture. It can also trigger havoc in financial and commodity markets. The disruption in agriculture creates a greater dependency on food aid and imported grain staples from the US and other Western countries.

HAARP was developed as part of an Anglo-American partnership between Raytheon Corporation, which owns the HAARP patents, and British Aerospace Systems (BAES). The HAARP project is one among several collaborative ventures in advanced weapons systems between the two defence giants.

The HAARP project was initiated in 1992 by Advanced Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), a subsidiary of Atlantic Richfield Corporation (ARCO). APTI (including the HAARP patents) was sold by ARCO to E-Systems Inc, in 1994.

E-Systems, on contract to the CIA and US Department of Defense, outfitted the ‘Doomsday Plan’, which ‘allows the President to manage a nuclear war’. Subsequently acquired by Raytheon Corporation, it is among the largest intelligence contractors in the World.

BAES was involved in the development of the advanced stage of the HAARP antenna array under a 2004 contract with the Office of Naval Research. The installation of 132 highfrequency transmitters was entrusted by BAES to its US subsidiary, BAE Systems Inc. The project, according to a July report in Defense News, was undertaken by BAES’s Electronic Warfare division. In September it received DARPA’s top award for technical achievement for the design, construction and activation of the HAARP array of antennas.

The HAARP system is fully operational and in many regards dwarfs existing conventional and strategic weapons systems. While there is no firm evidence of its use for military purposes, Air Force documents suggest HAARP is an integral part of the militarisation of space. One would expect the antennas already to have been subjected to routine testing.

Under the UNFCCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has a mandate ‘to assess scientific, technical and socioeconomic information relevant for the understanding of climate change’. This mandate includes environmental warfare. ‘Geo-engineering’ is acknowledged, but the underlying military applications are neither the object of policy analysis or scientific research in the thousands of pages of IPCC reports and supporting documents, based on the expertise and input of some 2,500 scientists, policymakers and environmentalists.

‘Climatic warfare’ potentially threatens the future of humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Michel Chossudovsky is a Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and an editor at the Centre for Research on Globalization, www.globalresearch.ca

This piece first appeared in The Ecologist December 2007
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2009, 10:38:27 PM »

I have found understanding the GMO food issue and whole foods and issues on vitamins explains this. We really have a US and them forming. The food the little guy gets is alot different at Wal Mart than the Organic stuff and whole foods the Elite gets. Those in the know understand how to shop. again symbolism comes into play. Great question. I am still learning but have not been sick since I stepped up  
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2009, 10:40:31 PM »

A very good point! The elite most certainly are not consuming GMO food.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2009, 10:42:30 PM »

What concerns me is the Government is not playing the "we are saving you from global warming card" why so secret?
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2009, 10:44:04 PM »

What concerns me is the Government is not playing the "we are saving you from global warming card" why so secret?

Plausible deniability if enough people become up in arms about Chemtrails. They can say it was a secret but in our best interest to save us from Global Warming. That's what I've heard put forth and I agree with it.
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2009, 10:46:56 PM »

This may come out wrong but I almost wish the Dollar would crash so these programs would not be funded. I think that they are that dangerous.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2009, 10:51:45 PM »

This may come out wrong but I almost wish the Dollar would crash so these programs would not be funded. I think that they are that dangerous.

If only it were that simple...

These men are hellbent to destory and corrupt everything good and innocent. Taking away their fiat money would not even cause them to break their stride. They will simply create new money and buy the world back, as the quote goes.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2009, 11:01:24 PM »

Try not to go there in your head. Just think often of the New World Order going down and think of what you would put in it's place you are not powerless we will beat them
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2009, 11:16:14 PM »

wow, that's craziness.
But on Alex's show some years back they spoke about habing done this in vietnam.
This site is nuts. they speak about it so casual.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2009, 11:23:25 PM »

just wondering how do i tell the difference between contrails and chemtrails ? and how can i prove chemtrails when i see the big white lines left by jets ?
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2009, 11:39:08 PM »

just wondering how do i tell the difference between contrails and chemtrails ? and how can i prove chemtrails when i see the big white lines left by jets ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psdg3OAw_a8
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2009, 12:02:47 AM »

okay why would wikipedia label chemtrails as a conspiracy theory because there are no 'official' sources which to verify the presence of chemtrails ?
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2009, 12:29:46 AM »

Tell Wiki to check the link in the OP, then see what they have to say about it.   Wink

sorry but what's an OP? the chemtrail article on wikipedia is really poorly written, they try to associate it with NWO and other such stuff, lots of 'federal sources and scientists deny their existance' and such and such.

"The term specifically refers to aerial trails allegedly caused by the systematic high-altitude release of chemical substances not found in ordinary contrails, resulting in the appearance of supposedly uncharacteristic sky tracks. Believers of this theory speculate that the purpose of the chemical release may be global dimming or population control, and claim that these trails are causing respiratory illnesses and other health problems."

because the site in the thread topic is all about cloud seeding, and not 'chemtrails' as fair as i can tell.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2009, 12:37:35 AM »

sorry but what's an OP?

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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2009, 01:20:07 AM »

I could not believe this when I saw it.


i'm surprised you didn't post a SUPER DUPER RED ALERT for this valuable information

what kind of flight pattern is this ?


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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2009, 02:55:03 AM »

Sure, there are plenty of plants that remove heavy metals and kill fungus in the human body. Would you like a list?

Bumping it up for useful info.

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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2009, 09:39:32 AM »

Cloud seeding and chemtrails are two separate animals.  Cloud seeing is used many places to induce rain for crops/wars etc. and if you noticed the planes used on the OP website (small cessna/lear type) they aren't what we are seeing spraying us (large jets at high altitude) with Chemtrails. 
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2009, 09:45:08 AM »

I'm not a plane expert, but what type of plane is the King Air series on their webpage?  Do they fit into the piper/cessna series somewhere?


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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2009, 09:48:33 AM »

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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2009, 10:09:41 AM »

In regards to chemtrails, I saw an interesting site late yesterday afternoon.  It was a near cloudless day, say for 1 thin cloud to the south.  I happened to notice a single plane flying with a long white stream behind it, and it was miles long.  well anyways, the trail stopped AS SOON AS HE WENT PAST THE CLOUD TO THE NORTH!!!!  So obv whatever that particular trail was of, they're being used for the clouds in regards to rain, because i've seen other days where the stream just keeps going from 1 horizon to the other going east to west and vice versa, and even when they turn, sfo what it isn't when u see that.  Oh, they also do em at night where I am, as I have seen it on quite a few occasions when its been near cloudless.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2009, 10:48:37 AM »

Chlorella - " It’s fibrous outer shell latches onto Mercury before it attaches to our tissues. The chlorella binds with the Mercury, enabling our bodies to eliminate it naturally."
http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/chlorella_mercury_detox.html

"Chlorella algae contain phytochemicals that support Phase I and Phase II detoxification reactions while the cell walls function as an ion exchange resin to absorb and retain toxic metals which can then be excreted. Chlorella can be used as a significant source of nutrients including vitamins, amino acids, fatty acids and minerals. They possess no toxicity and 20 grams or more can be ingested daily without any adverse effect."


Vitamin E: That's in just about everything you would eat. Almonds, Asparagus, Avocado, Nuts, Olives, Seeds, Milk, Vegatable Oils, Cucumber, and so on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_E
"Antioxidant, supports thyroid function."


Selenium: Supplements are the best source.

"Experimental findings have demonstrated an interaction between selenium and methylmercury, but epidemiological studies have found little evidence that selenium helps to protect against the adverse effects of methylmercury"

"Selenium is used widely in vitamin preparations and other dietary supplements, in small doses (typically 50 to 200 micrograms per day for adult humans). Some livestock feeds are fortified with selenium as well"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selenium

"Enhances chemical detoxification, reduces toxicity of metals, necessary for conversion of T4 to T3 for normal thyroid function. Selenium is an important constituent of glutathione peroxidase, which breaks down toxic peroxides and free radicals. It has been shown to significantly reduce heavy metals."



Cilantro/Coriander(It's the same thing)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriander
"Mobilizes toxic metals from the central nervous system and other tissues. Cilantro is a vegetable in the parsley family shown by Omura and others to be an effective chelator of CNS toxic metals. Its active component is a mercaptan that can penetrate the blood brain barrier"



Plants containing Lipoyllysine, which is A-Lipoic Acid bound with lysine in proteins: Spinach, Broccoli. Tomatos, Peas, andBbrussels sprouts.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/index.html#food_source

"Binds intracellular toxic metals, quenches free radicals and raises glutathione levels. Alpha lipoic acid is a sulfur-containing co-factor for many essential biochemical reactions with potent antioxident properties."
It suggests the pure A-LA in supplement form though.


N-acetylcysteine
"Food is not a significant source of N-acetylcysteine"
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69310.cfm

Taurine: Meat, Fish, Dairy, Eggs.
"Taurine also protects the kidneys and retina from free radical damage by toxic metals and also protects the liver, heart, lungs and neutrophiles. Taurine has also been shown to enhance the secretion of toxic metals in bile."



Magnesium cotainting plants/fruits/nuts/grains: Bananas, Artichokes, Whole Wheats, Almonds, Cashews, Pine Nuts, Black Beans, Cornmeal, Soybeans, Pumpkin seeds, Tomato paste, Spinach, Tuna and Halibut, Brown rice, with the highest concentration of Magnesium being in Buckwheat flour.

"One of the major properties of magnesium is that of stabilizing cell membranes and even the blood brain barrier"
http://web.mac.com/medicalveritas/iWeb/FSEM/Magnesium.html
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/food/magnesium-foods.htm



In Aerosol Crimes a woman, but not an MD, suggested Omega-3 Fatty acids which she said help the brain to move metals like aluminum out through the hair folicals, away from the brain. You should be eating Omega-3 containing foods regardless if you believe her or not.



Antifungal plants/minerals: Creosote leaves, Coconut Oil, Selenium, Zinc, Garlic, Radish
"You can boil walnuts and use the juice as an antifungal agent." Does not say it is edible however!
Nice big list of Antifungal plants that you can read here: http://www.pfaf.org/database/search_use.php?K[]=Antifungal



How combat Barium: Eat potassium containing foods for one thing, don't eat junk food.

"Barium is a competitive potassium channel antagonist that blocks the passive efflux of intracellular potassium, resulting in a shift of potassium from extracellular to intracellular compartments"
www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp24-c2.pdf

"Barium doses as low as 0.2-0.5 g (3-7 mg/kg body weight), generally resulting from the ingestion of barium chloride or carbonate, have been found to lead to toxic effects in adult human beings."
http://www.inchem.org/documents/hsg/hsg/hsg046.htm




Alright that's all I can come up with now, the 3 big ones are Cilantro, Garlic, and Chlorella if you are being bombarded with Chemtrails. The Omega-3, the selenium, the Vitamin C (That's a given, I didn't mention it), Magnesium, Potassium, and Zinc should all be in the foods you are already eating. Eat a well balanced diet and your body will do it's part.

The base of what I just put up there comes from this oral chelator: http://www.scienceformulas.com/how.html
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2009, 12:34:59 PM »

It would be nice if a Chem-trial airplane crash. Notice that the important planes don't crash. I definately smell something fishy in Buffalo.
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http://www.Mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm

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Detox with cilantro:

Omura determined that cilantro could mobilize mercury and other toxic metals rapidly from the CNS.96 97

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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2009, 12:55:22 PM »

Thanks for the information.  I have a question though.  It mentions tuna fish.  Now, is this fresh tuna or will the canned stuff be good too.  I eat a lot of the canned stuff.  And spinach too.

Doesn't matter. Magnesium doesn't go anywhere if you put it in a can it or eat it raw. It's only proteins and complex molecules that fall apart when cooked or processed.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2009, 01:21:20 PM »

Cilantro is pretty damn amazing. It was used in chinese medicines in teas to cure ailments of past.
It is doing wonders for me. for Chlorella, some people are sensitive to it. ALso mercury has been found to be contained in Chlorella.

Cilantro crosses the blood brain barrier and transports the mercury to another soft tissue area. It is up to DMSA or alpha lipoic acid to get rid of mercury from the body. Remember, Mercury is the worst agent and most toxic. Cilantro is an antidote to Mercury poisoning.
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http://www.H20labs.com
http://www.Mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm

Drink distilled water for Pure Health:

Detox with cilantro:

Omura determined that cilantro could mobilize mercury and other toxic metals rapidly from the CNS.96 97

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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2009, 01:37:08 PM »

UN 1976 Weather Weapon Treaty

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3436120/UN-1976-Weather-Weapon-Treaty

CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES Adopted by Resolution 31/72 of the United Nations General Assembly on 10 December 1976. The Convention was opened for signature at Geneva on 18 May 1977. TEXT PUBLISHED IN: United Nations General Assembly Resolution 31/72, Annex; see Official Records of the General Assembly, Thirty-first Session, Supplement No. 39 (A/31/39), pp. 37-38. International Legal Materials, Vol. XVI, No. 1, January 1977, pp. 88-94 (Engl.); World Armaments and Disarmament, SIPRI Yearbook 1978, London 1978, pp. 392-397 (Engl.); Shindler & Toman, eds., "The Laws of Armed Conflicts."
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