WAKE UP! No one knows who wrote the 1,400 page stimulus plan/No one read it!

[Dig]

The entire stimulus plan is a complete joke.

No one knows who wrote it.

Not one congressman read it.

Not one pundit read it.

The entire thing is just a huge piece of crap and will only be used by elites and their lawyers to interpret the uninterpretable piece of bullshit to their advantage.

One thing is certain about the bullshit bill:

IT IS COMPLETELY ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL

[gEEk squad]

Isn't it 1400 pages?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aLvdxUJI8s1k&refer=home

The 1,400-page stimulus plan would provide a half-trillion dollars for jobless benefits, renewable energy projects, highway construction, food stamps, broadband, Pell college tuition grants, high-speed rail projects and scores of other programs. It would raise the nation’s debt limit to about $12 trillion.

The plan would pump $185 billion into the economy this year and $399 billion next year, the agency said.

Democrats released the text of the plan late yesterday, prompting complaints from Republicans they didn’t have enough time to review the legislation before voting on it.

“It is over a thousand pages,” said Representative Tom Price, a Georgia Republican. “It is physically impossible for any member to have read this bill.”

[Dig]

holy shit, you wait 2 days and it grows by over 50%.

This thing is expanding like the fricking alien in species!

[Dig]

What really pisses me off is that the MSM act like they are debating the package, but all they are doing is not asking the most important questions like.

Who the f**k wrote this thing?

[RickT]

The song remains the same:

48 seconds in (everyone remembers this):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zf2nCiBJLo

Where's the fat man now?  Helllloooooooooooooooo, Miiiiiiichaaaaaellllll?!  *crickets*

[Optimus]

updated: 2/13/2009 3:57:15 PM

[UPDATED] Federal Stimulus Bill Passes The House
Inside INdiana Business.com Report

Indiana members of the U.S. House of Representatives have voted along party lines as the federal stimulus legislation has been passed in the chamber. Indiana's Republican Congressmen voted against the more than $780 billion plan, while their Democrat counterparts were in favor. Overall, the House voted 246-183 for the package, with no Republican supporting it.


Statement From Congressman Steve Buyer (R-04)

Washington, DC— Congressman Steve Buyer (IN-04) knows first hand how much Hoosiers are hurting, from the increasing unemployment rate to finding the best way to stretch a dollar; all while Democrat leaders in the House and Senate ram a massive $789 billion economic stimulus bill through both chambers of Congress, few of whom will have had the opportunity to read before voting on it. Congressman Buyer believes we need to pass pro-growth policies that will help employers grow and expand and put more dollars in the pockets of Hoosiers.

“This nation is in a serious recession and I believe the government needs to act but this bill has the wrong priorities. Throwing billions of dollars at programs liberals have been unable to fund for years will do little to create jobs and stimulate the economy. In the end, our children and grandchildren will be footing the bill for these excesses. Instead, we should be focusing on pro-growth policies and lower taxes that will aid businesses to grow and expand,” said Buyer.

“Tax relief to help middle class families and small businesses was sharply pared back in this bill in order to increase government spending. There will be billions of taxpayer dollars in ‘phantom earmarks’ sent to government agencies and faceless bureaucrats who will choose how to spend it with little or no transparency and accountability. The problems on Wall Street have proved to us that we need more oversight. Very few, if any, Members of Congress will have read this bill or have any real understanding what is in it and it scares me that this is how we spend taxpayers’ hard earned dollars in any climate, let alone at a time like today, when the judicious use of those dollars is even more important. We need to put more money in people’s pockets and create an environment for businesses to grow and expand,” Buyer said

“Last week as I traveled through Indiana, the economy was at the foremost of everyone’s minds. I met with the Economic Development Directors for Indianapolis and Boone, Hendricks, Morgan and Johnson counties, and they expressed frustrations from businesses in rural Indiana regarding growth policies left out of the economic recovery bill. Hoosiers want to create jobs. Hoosiers are right; Congress should focus on stimulating entrepreneurship to help create more jobs. They also said we should aid small businesses with tax provisions that will allow businesses, the heart of America’s economy, to stay afloat during these challenging economic times by maintaining and hiring new employees,” Buyer said.

On Tuesday, Congressional Democrats agreed to a Republican Motion to Recommit (MTR) stating that a copy of the final conference report must be available in an electronic, searchable and downloadable form 48 hours before either chambers of the Congress may take a vote. Congressman Buyer noted that this is one way to ensure transparency in the legislative process, allowing time for the measure to be viewed by the public eye is good protocol.

Unfortunately, the Democrat Leadership decided to deny this process of transparency and denied the public and congressional Members time to read through the conference report to see what will be voted on. The House of Representatives voted on the conference report with less than 48 hours of review. History has shown that when Congress works in a hurried and closed process, taxpayer interests are not protected.

“Important legislation like this must not be rammed through Congress, dismissing the democratic process by foregoing hearings and the amendment process,” stated Buyer. “This was a hurried and rushed process and in the end the conference report cuts $75 billion in true tax relief-from the original bill-making working families and small businesses pay for more government spending.”

An agreement on the conference report came about late Thursday of this week. The final conference report’s estimated cost is $789 billion compared to the Republicans’ bill that only costs $477 billion and would create 2.7 million more jobs than the democrat plan. Congressman Buyer continues to support the Republican stimulus package and strongly believes those stimulus provisions will help the nation’s economy prosper again.

“Just allocating funds to build sidewalks and re-surface roads, which may be worthy projects, will not create long term jobs for the American people and keep our economy going strong for future years. There is a staunch difference between creating jobs versus creating work. The democrat plan only creates work, not long term jobs,” said Buyer.


The final legislation scaled back the tax relief by:

Cutting car credits from $11.5 billion to $2 billion.
Cutting the credit “Make Work Pay” from $500/individual to $400/individual and from $1,000/couple to $800/couple—about $28 billion less in tax relief.
Cutting the home buyer credit from $35 billion to $3-5 billion and limiting it to first-time home buyers.
Cutting the Net Operating Loss significantly to as little as $2 billion. This makes it only applicable to employers with $5 million or less in revenue. Many small businesses have high revenue but small profits, penalizing them.


The big government spending laundry list includes but is not limited to:

Providing $2 billion in funding to go towards liberal organizations, such as ACORN, which are politically active.
$1 billion for Prevention and Wellness Programs, including STD education.
Funding for the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research was included, leading Americans down the path towards healthcare rationing (63 patient advocacy groups signed a letter voicing their concerns with this provision).
$300 million for “green” golf carts.
$650 million for the DTV conversion.
$20 million for the removal of small to medium sized fish passage barriers.
$25 million for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes.
$43 million for park and fish and wildlife trails.
$198 million to authorize payments to certain Filipino veterans from WWII.
$30 million for the Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse of the San Francisco Bay area.


The bill does contain Buyer’s request for one billion dollars for construction projects in the VA but he is disappointed that his request for one billion in VA small business loan guarantees was not adopted.

“This Congress is more interested in creating work on specific projects than creating a sustaining job,” stated Buyer.

Congressman Buyer believes that the government cannot spend its way out of this recession and he warned his colleagues of this when the House voted on the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act the first time. “Free-market solutions to rehabilitate the economy are once again left out of the stimulus legislation. History tells us that for the nation to expand the economy the private sector must grow—we need to pass policies that promote growth within the private sector,” noted Buyer.

The Congressman supported the Republican Motion to Recommit (MTR) which would reinsert a Senate amendment that would provide a tax deduction equal to the cost of a car loan interest and state sales tax on new car purchases in 2009. The conference report cut this provision by applying the tax relief only to state sales tax and not loan interest. By allowing taxpayers to deduct states sales taxes and a car loan interest, the Republican MTR would save taxpayers $10.5 billion, as opposed to only $1.6 billion in tax relief provided in the conference report. The MTR failed to pass the House by a vote 186 to 244.

The Conference Report passed the House by a vote of 246 to 183. Congressman Buyer opposed the measure for the simple reason that this legislation fails to enact pro-growth policies that will help employers grow and expand and put more dollars in the pockets of Hoosiers.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates the cost of the conference report to be $792 billion and suggests that the government’s interest on the conference report would amount to more than $300 billion over the 2009-2019 period. This means that the total cost of the legislation over the next ten years is likely to be $1.1 trillion. Congressman Buyer disagrees with placing this excessive burden squarely on the backs of our children and grandchildren.

Source: Office of Congressman Steve Buyer

 

[L2Design]

OMG

[spangler]

GOP Leader Boehner:   Not one member of the House has read the bill

[tritonman]

It is online to read somewhere and the first 700 and some pages were all struck out and it looks like it was rewritten,  I am guessing that is why it went to 1400 pages. I posted earlier today about the section on whistle blower protection,,,  Where it states that if you went to anyone other than congress or homeland security you would not be protected.. Can you say gatekeepers?  Lord do not go to the press as that freedom is no longer there it would seem.

[911aware]

i give them 4 months, and they will ask for take more.

[911aware]

What really pisses me off is that the MSM act like they are debating the package, but all they are doing is not asking the most important questions like.

Who the f**k wrote this thing?

how 'bout: every lobbyist in washington?

[Dig]

i give them 4 months, and they will ask for take more.

this is the first of at least 10 of these things.

there will be one every month or two until the dollar is totally worthless.

[Raincheck]

No one knows who wrote it.

Lucifer

[Revolt426]

Robert Gibbs was stumbling and mumbling at the whitehouse press conference today again.

[Mber]

this is the first of at least 10 of these things.

there will be one every month or two until the dollar is totally worthless.

yep

[Revolt426]

Providing $2 billion in funding to go towards liberal organizations, such as ACORN, which are politically active.
$1 billion for Prevention and Wellness Programs, including STD education.
Funding for the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research was included, leading Americans down the path towards healthcare rationing (63 patient advocacy groups signed a letter voicing their concerns with this provision).
$300 million for “green” golf carts.
$650 million for the DTV conversion.
$20 million for the removal of small to medium sized fish passage barriers.
$25 million for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes.
$43 million for park and fish and wildlife trails.
$198 million to authorize payments to certain Filipino veterans from WWII.
$30 million for the Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse of the San Francisco Bay area.

These sums are meaningless relative to the situation at hand, and infact any sum is meaningless because you cannot just close your eyes, and pray that the Derivative bubble will dissapear. They could spend 20 Trillion dollars right now and it would not change anything other than the amount of time we have before complete disintigration of the entire world economic system.

[Dig]

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.

It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published.

Its mistakes are buried, not headlined.

Its dissenters are silenced, not praised.

No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

-John F. Kennedy

[KI4BNC]

hmmm...
earlier today(fridaythe13th-there I said it!)I was just out of bed and watching c-span and when the dude picked it up
it looked like about 8-12 lbs. and tied with string,I thought I heard him say some thing like 875.?
(note to: Self: file under interesting shit.)

[Womanizer]

this is the first of at least 10 of these things.

there will be one every month or two until the dollar is totally worthless.

Not that it matters, but this is more like #2, lest we forget the original bailout.

[Matt Hatter]

Providing $2 billion in funding to go towards liberal organizations, such as ACORN, which are politically active.
$1 billion for Prevention and Wellness Programs, including STD education.
Funding for the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research was included, leading Americans down the path towards healthcare rationing (63 patient advocacy groups signed a letter voicing their concerns with this provision).
$300 million for “green” golf carts.
$650 million for the DTV conversion.
$20 million for the removal of small to medium sized fish passage barriers.
$25 million for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes.
$43 million for park and fish and wildlife trails.
$198 million to authorize payments to certain Filipino veterans from WWII.
$30 million for the Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse of the San Francisco Bay area.

These sums are meaningless relative to the situation at hand, and infact any sum is meaningless because you cannot just close your eyes, and pray that the Derivative bubble will dissapear. They could spend 20 Trillion dollars right now and it would not change anything other than the amount of time we have before complete disintigration of the entire world economic system.

Absolutely correct!

[LoreOnTerror]

According to this blog lobbyists wrote it as usual.

Congressional Offices Don't Have the Stimulus Bill, Lobbyists Do

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/2/12/congressional-offices-dont-have-the-stimulus-bill-lobbyists-do.html

[GoingEtheric]

No one knows who wrote it.

really?

i can imagine no one getting a chance to read it, that's standard these days, but 'no one' knows who even wrote it?
wow

[Captain Obvious]

The site http://www.stimuluswatch.org/ has sections of the bill and how much they cost and people voting whether it is critical or not.

Doorbells for the elderly $99,600 http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/8982
dog park $500,000 http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/3246
more dog parks $50,000 http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/9111
Latino Cultural center $18,000,000 http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/3963
Cincinnati Streetcar Network $132,000,000 http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/3393
Build an indoor soccer field $1,000,000 http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/6693
Golf Course Renovations $6,000,000 http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/856

and on...and on...

game over

[RickT]

It's funny to see what gets people worked up when a bill this size is passed... a few mill for this a few mill for that... how about $225 Billion for food stamps and unemployment extensions (and the like) while only $30 billion toward infrastructure... from today's CNN "Your Bottom Line".

Stimulus?  Ha!

Or how about 180 days to review and approve infrastructure projects?

[eminer]

How can these people say they represent us when they vote for bills they haven't read???
If it was such an emergency that they didn't have time to read it,
Obama would be in Washington tonight signing it into law.

[EchelonMonitor]

Is this site lying

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ARRA_public_review/

when it says this

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h1enr.pdf

is the full text?

Sure seems like it because that's only 400 pages.  Wonder what they're hiding?

[EchelonMonitor]

Is this site lying

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ARRA_public_review/

when it says this

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h1enr.pdf

is the full text?

Sure seems like it because that's only 400 pages.  Wonder what they're hiding?

Btw, one of you experts should checkout the code on that strange exit popup--does it install something malicious or track you?

[deconstructmyhouse]

What really pisses me off is that the MSM act like they are debating the package, but all they are doing is not asking the most important questions like.

Who the f**k wrote this thing?

Obaaama: of course, he's the President!
He wrote it during that trip to Hawaii, sittin on the beach.  duh!
He had a few Mai Tai's and it just kinda flowed out of his pen.
Michelle was a little peeoed because she wanted him to hang with the fam, but he just kept spewing stimulus stuff outta the end of his pen and then, boom, the trip was over and it was time to gather up all those 1400 pages (he had to keep asking for more hotel stationary) and get on back to the White house and stuff it down everybody's throat. 

Seriously, imo this is exactly the biggest WARNING bell to still sleepy sheeple:
How did a brand new president throw together 1400 pages of ultra detailed economic law in less than two weeks?  Does he even know what's in there?

[Elvis]

...there will be one every month or two until the dollar is totally worthless.

That's what I'm trying to figure out - how do they play it where the dollar is devalued and the new currency comes in; everyone losses their arse but them...

There's got to be a plan, but what is it?

[JBS_Banned!]

A trillion dollars and nobody even gave a F to read it. That proves it is not a fix, but another fraud and betrayal by our bribed, bought and paid for politicians. There is nothing lower than a politician that betrays their own country and the people that elected the pukes. I sure feel betrayed for sure.
I would guess 'it' was written long ago by the Bilderbergers and/or other anti-american people conspirators as another crippling blow to the dollar to ruin the economy (including the idiotic but effective NAFTA stunt to destroy american competition from the world markets), an excuse to bring on the Amero, drain all the wealth to the corporations and banks before completely destroying the american middle class, bring down governments, countries, states, cities, counties and to enable the NAU police state need propaganda. It is meant to add a misc trillion dollar debt and hand out goodies to obama supporters and fake an attempt to actually do anything helpful, but carefully written to make sure it does  NOT actually fix anything while fooling most of the public into believing they are attempting to be 'saved' by corrupt, greedy and stupid politicians that sold this country away long ago.  You know, the ones that are taking this country for a ride to hell while they feast like pigs. To fix the economy would be a giant step backwards for the architects of the economic attack on the american people AND other countries. Once economies fail, governments fall and new ones more NWO compliant come to power. Starvation becomes a tool of war. Desperate starving people are easier to control. They will do anything you say for a loaf of bread. The US lost what, 30 million jobs so far, that's an increase of 30 million jobs elsewhere.
Yes folks, as far as I am concerned, economic stunts are being used as a tool of war against the people of the world and it works just as good as 9/11 was used as an excuse to begin the eternal global terror war sponsored by guess who.
There is no way anyone can write up a 1,400 page garbage document in couple days, and sneak it thru unless IT WAS ALL READY WRITTEN BEFOREHAND when the economic crisis and the pending "solutions" to be enacted were planned and penned. Period.
Enter the Amero, the "solution" to the dollar, and Chapter 13 the trillions in Fed and gov debts. Too bad the states can't "print" their way out like the fake fed does.
I have no links, that's just my take. Stock up on food NOW or you will have a very hard time ahead.

[JBS_Banned!]

That's what I'm trying to figure out - how do they play it where the dollar is devalued and the new currency comes in; everyone losses their arse but them...

There's got to be a plan, but what is it?

Well, again my guess is you will get a "penny on the dollar". "You will take it and you will like it." Kinda like the final blow to anyone caught with worthless dollars.
If they wait until the dollar is worth ZERO, you get nothing. Spend every dollar you have, trade it for whatever, maybe lots of food. In a crisis, if you don't have food, you die. Is that enough incentive to stock up?

[Dan]

Is it me? or is there a little bit of money missing here?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/18/stimulus.spending.chart/index.html

Dan.

ps, I tried to cut and past the chart but I don't know how.  Anyone else know how?