911 was a complete inside job-No Question About it-Evidence Here...

[zlater]

sorry to post here though i not read all the posts yet but gotta throw 2 cents at this topic.

One kind of evidence that waked me up was what we "were not aloud to ask" about the event. What the media didn't bring forth at all. This is already hard evidence of the inside job that should be so obvious once one starts from the basics. questions like:

Why did the towers fall at freefall speed after being on fire at a few stories and hit by a jet each even though they were/are designed to withstand weeks of fire, several jetimpacts ?

Why were there molten steel at the base a week or more after the collapse of the towers and what caused the seismic waves before the falls?

Why was the steel parts seen on photos and vids melted diagonally as cut on purpose with thermite charges?

How come the core of the towers didn't remain and fires could have caused collapse when other skyscrapers haven't fallen from fires before 911?

Why were there "squids" and witnesses of explosions in both towers just before the fall?

Why did WTC 7 fall and as silverstein says they decided to "pull it", which is nothing else than a demolition term cos i didn't see a giant rope and elephants near it?

Why should anyone trust the government and not be allowed to question them and get true answers for anything concerning 911? If they gave a logical answer they'd be left alone but since the denial and conspiracy they're at it's most likely them who conjured this all up (which has already been proven several ways).

People should not just "go with the flow" or trust medias point of view. They've been wrong so many times before and this is such a serious matter.. They're poking the ice to see how far they can go and an understatement if any to say they've gone too far. They forced down EU in our throuts with lies, they lie about anything to achieve their goal, and the people suffer for it, not them. Justice, morale, common sense and decency should not be allowed to die with it!

[jbrid1138]

To ZLATER -- good post.  You're obviously awake and doing your research.  Keep it up and keep posting, you're helping spread the TRUTH.

[jbrid1138]

Going to argue with myself for a moment (not a good sign is it) // but if you will permit me // the thick dust I bring up in a couple of post back // I find myself reminded that the tower next door has just collapsed; and we know that with it there was an inordinate amount of dust (but again from what source? -- explosives, obviously) but there was dust flying everywhere, nevertheless, a hugh cloud of the stuff.  It does appear that the firemen in the clip were not that far from the lobby, if sequence in editing isn't an indication otherwise; a lobby with all of its ground floor windows, and sitting not too far from the collapsed tower with all that heavy cloud of dust rushing at it --surely some of the debris would have busted those windows and allowed-in some of that dust coming from next door.  It is quite visible on the dust of the camera, the operator wipes at it a couple of times, and it is obvious that the tower next door has just collapsed -- the sound of it.  But still, the firemen are inside the other tower (maybe below lobby level, taking that stalled escellator up to the lobby; the windows seem intact once there, no glass on the floor; perhaps the ROAR of the tower in collapse mode would be a perfect time to ignite more of those explosive charges for the tower that would be next in line.  A perfect disguise of sorts, all that noise.  The fireman (Emergency Management according to his jacket) does make mention of taking a hit from that last 'explosion'.  If you notice closely, he (he w/soft baseball-style hat) goes outside and disappears / takes off from the group of firemen still inside.  Everybody for themself, right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23DB_6ASkdE

And something (??) caused the death of that Priest.

Those are the kind of argument that bounce around in my head.  Still, I'm convinced the crime was dripping all over from 'inside' involvment // not just because of the towers (and WTC7) BUT for everything questionable for that day. 

typos      

[zlater]

Thank you jbrid1138. Appretiate it. There's still so much more that can be done and also there's a need to tell other truthers and interested and anyone about this because it's a worldwide matter that should NOT be ignored.

About your post, wasn't there a few NYFD witness vids of the lobby windows smashing from the explosions prior to the collapses? one in terrorstorm/loose change of the detonations going boom-boom-boom-boom-boom and the recent shroeder vid on wearechange/infowars? They might have some more info for you on this particular matter? Also the colour of the dust is that which comes from demolition of large buildings. not collapse. There wouldn't be debris spread around as vast radius as there was if it weren't for them spread due to vast explosions.. Nearby and far rooftops of the WTC area had lots of debris everywhere.

[jbrid1138]

Right you are, again.  I think you might be making reference to this --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsF5fmtnkdg

[zlater]

yup.. that's the first one, mate and here's the second one i meant:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7471885217846396761

i guess a vid says more than a million neo-cons. 

[jbrid1138]

That's a funny way to put it, but I agree. 

Here's a snapshot of a now famous 9/11 video (Loose Change) where ALL OF US can see the many explosions taking place way before the actual collapse zone.  I've seen that last link you provided and it is a good one.  I prefer these shorter versions when possible because they seem to focus more on a given subject.

As stated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncql4Fqcp7k

[syxle]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaIi_gM3Gr0


 

[Jesus Murphy]

Okay...at the risk of sounding like a heretic, I do believe that we really never will know for sure whether or not 9/11 was an inside job. I mean, whatever "evidence" there is, we'll probably never see; it's not like the perpetrators (maybe that should be traitors) will ever admit to carrying it off. Lord! Can you imagine the fit that would hit the shan if the real truth -as opposed to what CNN and Faux News told us- ever did come out? The uproar would make 1789 France look like a playground scuffle! And the NWO -who I am convinced is the guilty party- damn well knows this. I believe we'll uncover the truth behind JFK loooooooong before 9/11 (and, yeah, I concede that even that is a longshot.)

Having said all that, with all due respect, the original poster of this thread sounds like nothing but another Flatearther, as it were (and that theory was debunked hundreds of years ago, let's not forget, all thanks to science and none other than good old common sense! Seems to me they always win out in the end!) And why? Is it simple denial? A fear of facing up to the reality that, yes, the government could indeed and not even hesitate to carry out such an atrocity (wouldn't be the first time, after all), for whatever reasons they might have. Seriously...he reminds me of the ONLY person I know who doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job; their reasons are very similar to boot. As are their motives, I'm sure. And I've given up on the subject with my friend; he's good people, but 9/11 and conspiracies are a taboo subject between us now.

Personally, as a self-educated 9/11 scholar (ever since about 10:30 MST that morning, which is when I found out about the attacks), having read just about every book and document and seen every documentary -all from both sides, both conspiracy and official story propaganda, might I add- there is on the subject, I reckon that there is actually a hell of a lot of evidence pointing towards it being an inside job. Sorry, pal. Let me guess: just because you won't find any of this evidence within mainstream sources, it's all conspiracy and tinfoil hat b.s., right? Well...I don't know what to do for you, except maybe give you my pity. Why? Because, if the real truth ever does come out, your whole view and concept of the world, your whole being, will be shattered into a million pieces, won't it? (Gee...I'm having deja-vu...seems I've laid out this same little sermon before!)

I apologize if I sound harsh or critical. It's really nothing personal. To me, 9/11 is business, because either way the ramifications of it affect ALL OF US, no matter what our personal beliefs on the subject are. It's just that ,in my case, 9/11, and my conviction that it was an inside job, is dare I say the closest thing to a religion I have (as opposed to spirituality...)- that's how seriously I take the subject. Or maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one...

[jbrid1138]

I don't think we disagree on anything.  Maybe you might want to be more precise as to whom it is you feel disagrees with you.  The initial poster, for sure, me and and hell of lot of others -- we agree with what you say.  In fact I have this feeling (we need another big time poll) that there are more and more of us each and everyday that agree with what you say.

I would like to point out -- 9/11 was an inside job.  There is plenty of evidence to this fact, but not for you that choose not to see it.   We oftentimes refer to you people as not yet awake.  Some of you snore quite loudly with your debunker efforts, but I'd like to think that is only because you let your a** speak first when it should be your brains.  With time, I'm sure you'll come around also.  Either that or you're with the terrorist, to use a well-known phrase.   

[civilian]

I have done extensive research on the subject of 9/11 since the day of the attack.

Here are the links to the Fantastic Forum and speak.ca

9/11 Evidence part 1
http://www.fantasticforum.com/1res/showthr...=&threadid=7174

9/11 Evidence part 2
http://www.fantasticforum.com/1res/showthr...15&pagenumber=1

9/11 Evidence part 3
http://www.speak.ca/forum/view_topic.php?id=56&forum_id=25&page=1

[jbrid1138]

(quote)
If molten metal was discovered, there has been no analysis done to confirm it was steel.
EDDY155
_______________
With the use of that 'IF' (above) it is still quite clear where you mind is at.

We have numerous reports by people on the scene who witnessed these pools (puddles in some cases, I suppose) of molten metal -- well established people in a business trade related to demolition, for example // and then you come along six years later and say -- 'IF'  --

Do you see what I mean?  Probably not.

Melted (molten) METAL lasting as such for weeks, for months should tell you that we're not dealing with any type of ordinary fire here.  And yet it was there, people saw it, people who could see it and recognize it for what it was. 

Some even reported steel beams being lifted from the pools and dripping of the stuff. 

I know you have to be aware (remotely, but aware) of the chemical compounds mentioned in demo lingo where they (the folks that use the stuff) explain how fast it reacts and what they use it for -- i.e., to cut through steel like a knife through a tomato, or a hot knife through cold butter // same idea.  Now think -- It (the chemicals DO get to that required temperature AND DO what they are being used to DO; and they DO that while affixed (taped) to cold steel. 

Think about it, will you please // the chemical reach that required temperature instantly, then it is some pretty heavy duty stuff turned loose wouldn't you say so.

And being turned loose (able to cut like it does) it surely must take a period of time to cool back down where it can be handled again.  Now take all the cutting devices that would have to have been employed to bring down all of that steel at the three main buildings of the WTC and I'm sure we're talking about LOTS of the same chemicals; not one or two devices could do something like that, but LOTS of them (hundreds) all hot as hell and dripping molten steel residue and running and forming into pools once on the ground where they remained for weeks, months -- could, and would, I would think. 

-- edited to add (I almost forgot)
As to your decree to have some of it analyzed // definitely not a bad idea, but where is it?  Why would you suppose any of the stuff would exist as solid evidence to put your hands upon today in view of the FACT that there was a concerted effort to remove basically all of the WTC steel and ship it away overseas as quickly as possible, and do so under great protest?  Having some would be great, but so would having some of that steel we KNOW they shipped out ASAP.

[zlater]

well.. you don't have to be a (moon) rocket scientist to get to the conclusion it is in fact a steel construction that can be seen on the vids both media and by others and that it has melted.. no offense meant..

[zlater]

youdecide911 definately hits the spots on this.

CD of such structures does cause smell of cordite and definately needs ways of thermite or more hardcore substances to melt the steel frames i was referring to in the earlier post. They are clearly seen on several fox news and cnn clips. Also the structure as explained in the footage of how the WTC towers were built etc PROOVE there is no way jetliner impact OR the highest temperature of jetfuel could have caused steel to either melt or tire to cause the collapse in 9 minutes. The tower that was hit later fell first but there you can also see the antenna imploding and falling before the outside walls just as a CD would demand since the middle core is the heaviest and most robust construction that was in them.

I recommend watching vids of how the towers were built and the constructional engineering put into them. It's a good basis for making sensible conclusions. I recall the towers were on fire once before but did not collapse then. The firefighters said on their coms that they could control the fire cos it was isolated in a few floors. A large building in spain was on fire several weeks and did not collapse at freefall speed. ONLY CD can cause freefall. give a lot of more seconds to make it fall at pancake effect but still an implosion in its own footprint and the white smoke and so many more effects contradict any other theory than CD.

[DougRyan77]

I firmly believe 911 was an inside job, there is just too much evidence (especially after-the-fact) to say differently.

I have been "rabbid" to people who did not think it to be an inside job and I regret doing so.


There are a lot of variables to consider (some more damning to the official line than others..) but I would ask that each of you all have an open mind to various possibilities.  People that become rabbid and single-minded are about the worst kind of people in my opinion.  Sure, that can be a good thing in certain situations but not when you're trying to get other peoples minds to open up.

Cheers,
Doug Ryan

[Sonja]

Doug,
Eddy was a truther and changed his mind, now he's here allegedly either for us to change it back again or to change ours, Im not sure which, either way, its not a real debate.

[zlater]

DougRyan77>>
you're right there. even considering being suspicious of earlier events taking place worldwide and trying to keep ones own point of view on things it took a while to start understanding the whole vastness of this. I mean at the beginning of starting to understand what really happened 911. It sure is a very big bite to swallow.
Openmindness is harder than usual with manipulating media and other things. it's like the red and blue pill from matrix and cypher wanting to know less just to live easier. maybe not a so good metaphore but i guess the less one knows about something that takes time to melt the easier it is, but at what cost??

Truth and justice is too high a cost to bypass imo. I'm glad i investigated infowars in the day a friend recommended it because it really opened the halfshut eyes.

I blame media and "trends" for affecting people. The short time that programs actually run before there is a long commercial, the group pressure, the excess news that aren't really essential, politics and whatnot make the world more stressful, harder to have energy to concentrate on or be aware of all important news. Alternative media should take charge of majority of news like they are doing and i'm glad there are places like prisonplanet, infowars, wearechange that do the real work and report the real news gathered from AP and other places. *digressing* >.<

[TruthgoneWild]

There is no evidence at this time to show:
Controlled Demolition - or -
Deliberate LIHOP

Tell that to Dr. Steven Jones.

You're wrong, sorry to ruin your reality.

[TruthgoneWild]

Yes a casual deference to an authority in the form of ‘Dr.Steven Jones’ (its Proffessor Steven Jones isn’t?)

So about this thermite/ thermate that was supposed to have melted the columns, (though no evidence exists of molten steel) how could they have possibly attached the charges to the columns without anybody noticing?

This was a busy office building. The core columns where encased, the charges needed would have been big and bulky.

So according to this thermite theory, a bunch of guys would have had to sneak in, brake open the walls, attach a rather suspicious and hefty  thermite charge, then rig it all up to some sort of detonation connector (mind the wire guys!). They would have had to do this in three busy office buildings. Just seems unlikely that nobody would have saw that going on.

How are you going to debate anyone when you respond with that level of ignorance? Seriously.

Here's a homework assignment... find out who was involved with the security of the WTC up until the day of 911. When you find that information, come back and answer your own question.

Also, look up "inside job" and let me know what you find out. lol

[zlater]

Did you watch the clips of the wtc remains? did you notice the diagonally melted/cut steel frames? Project Northwood was very old in which they described the use of a falseflag terror attack using planes to hit a building. from any time then during the time the towers were on fire earlier, a vast service check etc.. They had the time, means, motive, scapegoats etc.

Steven Jones explains the laws of physics and how they can't be argued with. Melting points of materials are constants.. steel can not decide all of a sudden to lower its melting point just to satisfy a neo-cons purpose of staging a terror attack. *don't try this at home*

[Robodoon]

It can only be an inside job.

for what we are told and sold as the American people...all guards were let down for a reason but we aren't told...and the ideas of physical reality has been removed to sell nothing but a lie.


"It's not what you think. Are you going to believe what I tell you, or are you going to believe your lying eyes?"
Attributed to Groucho Marx


THINKS DON'T WORK THAT WAY...but on TV they are said to be.

[xego]

I have to assume that you knew that your comments about there being no evidence of controlled demolition  would be a great way to get a lot of comments on your post, as if that in itself were so worthy ambition. If you have looked at the evidence as you have said you have then I don't know what I could tell you to persuade you otherwise. I would say however that the whole controlled demolition argument has been given perhaps a bit too much attention. What I mean by that is that it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things really we have a preponderance of evidence that shows all manner of complicity to the training of the hijackers,  the multitude of brave individuals that have come forward, too many to go into. If you want to see something compelling watch the latest interview of the NYC fireman done by wearechange. I defy anyone to listen to this mans honest telling of the events as he remembers them as a first responder (stationed across the street) and tell me that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. He talks about the plane hitting and then gearing up and driving entering the lobby of the first tower and having a huge unexplainable explosion on the bottom floor? Where did all that energy come from? a boiler in the basement? yea right! And why were there people coming into the stairwell the were ascending blown apart, burned on the 5th and 6th floors when the plane hit around the 80th floor? Why did they find a burned up body in a maintenance closet? Why were the firefighters experiencing explosions going off when they never got higher than the 24th floor? Maybe the fireball went down the elevator shaft like in a Bruce Willis movie and decided to hang around for an hour causing mischief! In my opinion no one could look at all the evidence you have claimed to have seen and come away with the conclusions that you have unless you are a paid agent of the disinformation machine whose  assignment is to keep the truth movement arguing over minutiae rather than taking action. Go peddle your papers some where else toadie!!!   

[imfreetospeek]

No no no. f**k off. This is NOT a Chemtrail discussion. Nice try, especially you sevon, who has not contributed to the discussion over the last 20 posts at least, and certainly not after I posted on against your Molten metal theories and posted on Blanchard's obvious lies and indecrepancies.

Chemtrails have their own topic forum. Move along little disinfo doggie.   

[imfreetospeek]

Since I am new here and still navigating my way around, I will noy post until I learn just what the topic is. But my response to oneshotkill was an honest reply to contrails. If that was not the subject at hand then I am sorry that I posted. Do not state that I might be Subjecting anyone with disinfo, I only state the obvious. Respect is a two way street, I would expect the same as I give out.

[zlater]

Project Northwood was very old in which they described the use of a falseflag terror attack using planes to hit a building.

Operation Northwoods had nothing to do with flying planes into buildings.

must have got it confused with another but ..

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

.. it certainly has falseflag terror, hijacking airplanes, drones and government sponsored terror written all over it so it's at least not farfetched or is that wrong too?? I remember there was an incident on planning a jetliner crashing into the buildings long prior to 911 but i wrote that comment 4 in the morning and got it slightly wrong. thanks for correcting.

[winston_smith]

I try to look at these subjects with two view points.  So far I haven't found any arguments that prove the official story.  I remember watching the towers fall and people saying "how can a plane do that?"  Most people were comforted by the explanation that was given.  But since then experts in many different fields including physics and demolition say it is physically impossible to happen the way it did.  Experiements were done trying to copy the way the building came down and it couldn't be repeated.  One, if the building were that hot, there is no way people could be hanging out in windows and not melting.  Two, the buildings fell at free-fall speed.  Nothing short of a controlled demolition could cause a building to fall that way.  Even if the plane caused it to fall, there is no way it would fall that fast.  I'm looking forward to the popular mechanics/history channel presentation on this subject to see how they counter this arguement.  So far I haven't seen a convincing counter arguement against controlled demolion.

[Horatio_Bunce]

What's sad is that you don't need truth when you have a brainwashing box with experts talking about Lindsey Lohan.

Isn't that the point of discussing Lohan?

Distraction from the real issues?

[OneShotKi11]

I'm new here, but just read what oneshotkill says about contrails. You must be much younger than I am. If you look long enough in the sky you may see aircraft leaving vapor trails that dissapear shortly after they appear. This my friend is normal, not the contrails that you say are making cirrus clouds. Once in awhile I still see a normal vapor from high aircraft, god only knows what they are spreading around us with those long contrails.

Well been gone for awhile but now im back. I must ask first before anything....
What did i say about Contrails and where did i say it. I dont ever remember mentioning it at all. Also i noticed someone tied my name into the MICROWAVE TECHNOLOGY THEORY. I dont remember ever saying anything about that either. People seem to be putting words in my mouth and its going to make me look bad if it continues. Maybe im wrong and i might have mention these things and someone took it out of context. I guess i will go back and read through all my comments to see where this was done!

Edit: The reference i made to chemtrails was made with the intent of showing that burned jet plane fuel could be a source of sulphate. I read an article that stated that sulphate was released by burnt jet fuel and that it could be thew reason some was found on 9/11!!

[Mindflow]

When I see these posts, containing quotes from previous posts, or posts about the possible misinterpretation of the existence of a puddle of molten steel or exactly how many explosions there were or when and if there were explosives where, I see people stomping on ants while their elephants are escaping through the front.

I mean,  you are dissecting some ones post about a puddle of steel that may or may not be, while you obviously have a wealth of knowledge on the very subject.

And very real things are happening now that demand everyones attention.

Yes, the enemy has stormed the gate. No, I don't know why the gates didn't hold, but do we really have to talk about that NOW?

All of you are evidently good researchers, and detectives.

You have new assignments.

We'll come back to this later, but right now, check out the headlines, and duck.

And don't make me get out that "list" again.   

[OneShotKi11]

Feed me some good headlines to read up on because lately i cant find anything worth while.

[strgzr]

Eddy is a troll. Although a very polite one. I've read his/her comments on hollowscan for sometime if I'm not mistaken. The same cadence, the same questions. You can send him/her links and videos and he/she doesn't have time to look or is not quite convinced. Just a little more info all the time needed to convince him/her. Then comes back again, with a different name maybe, but always ready for more evidence, but it's never quite enough. Actually I think she's a he. I hope he got paid well for his soul. It should be easier to spot a troll here. Not as easy to change your name and have a solid ally when you need one.

[TruthgoneWild]

Project Northwood was very old in which they described the use of a falseflag terror attack using planes to hit a building.

Operation Northwoods had nothing to do with flying planes into buildings.

It had plenty to do with hijacking aircraft...

What is done with aircraft is beside the point. This government planned to hijack civilian aircraft!

Now go ahead and justify that.

[FrankieP]

When I see these posts, containing quotes from previous posts, or posts about the possible misinterpretation of the existence of a puddle of molten steel or exactly how many explosions there were or when and if there were explosives where, I see people stomping on ants while their elephants are escaping through the front.

I mean,  you are dissecting some ones post about a puddle of steel that may or may not be, while you obviously have a wealth of knowledge on the very subject.

The claims of molten steel are one of the cornerstones of the CD theory.  It is therefore paramount that this facet of the theory be examined thoroughly.

i thought the molten metal was evidence of chemical envolvement, as what other metal was there than steel?

the evidence for CD is the collapse time, squibs, obvious crimp in WTC7, eye-witness reports, manner of collapse (into footprint)...and probably many more that are much more indicitive of CD than the molten metal.

so i would hardly say that the molten metal is a cornerstone of the theory.

could you explain, or point to some links that explain exactly how you've come to the conclusion that Steven Jones' work is wrong? if you have already, please could you copy and paste it as this thread is very long...

[jbrid1138]

To EDDY155 --

I'm very impressed, so far this topic has gone to 18 pages and climbing.  Obviously a good topic for discussion.

I'd like to remind everyone of something regarding this matter of evidence (that we all seek to find) // Don't you realize that any hope for easy/actual/true evidence was greatly hampered when those in charge (certain government officials) ignored pleas (from other officials and from 9/11 family members) to STOP removing WTC steel; that NOT doing so was willfully (with a definite purpose in mind) destroying crime scene evidence.  Destroying evidence is itself a crime.  A cover up.  It hasn't been prosecuted as such but not for the lack of trying.     

[TruthgoneWild]

To EDDY155 --

I'm very impressed, so far this topic has gone to 18 pages and climbing.  Obviously a good topic for discussion.

I'd like to remind everyone of something regarding this matter of evidence (that we all seek to find) // Don't you realize that any hope for easy/actual/true evidence was greatly hampered when those in charge (certain government officials) ignored pleas (from other officials and from 9/11 family members) to STOP removing WTC steel; that NOT doing so was willfully (with a definite purpose in mind) destroying crime scene evidence.  Destroying evidence is itself a crime.  A cover up.  It hasn't been prosecuted as such but not for the lack of trying.

The presence of thermate is evidence enough to open a new investigation.

Once a new investigation begins, all the other damning evidence will fall into place.

[Horatio_Bunce]

At this point, we have all of the evidence we need to know that those buildings were demolished. Records disappeared, people who knew things were killed and most importantly, some evil bastards profited.

[jbrid1138]

To --
HORATIO_BUNCE
BRYAN
TRUTHGONEWILD
FRANKIEP
STRGZR
 
-- (just to mention a few)

I salute you.  Keep up the good work, your research is a benefit to all.

[bryan]

sevon is disinfo 100%...don't listen to him..ignore him

[TruthgoneWild]

could you explain, or point to some links that explain exactly how you've come to the conclusion that Steven Jones' work is wrong? if you have already, please could you copy and paste it as this thread is very long...

The part where he claims that all of the molten metal is steel without explaining how he came to said determination, or what happened to all of the molten iron which would have resulted from the thermite reactions in his theory.

Wow, that made no sense. Try again?

[maddog3n]

Bryan- I would like to point out a very good hypothesis theory test, if you haven’t heard of it, it’s called, Occam’s Razor.  William of Occam was a 13th century Francisican Monk and philosopher.   This methodology is stilled used today in the sciences.   In latin Occam’s Razor states, “Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate” which literally means, “Dual theories should not be used beyond what is necessary”(My translation).  However, my modern interpretation is, “When given two equal but opposing viewpoints, the simpler explanation is the most accurate.”  It my definition for common sense.  Now to give a modern example of this in relation to 9/11, what is more plausible?  That a jet fuel fire that can only obtain 2000 degrees fahrenheit temperature melted reinforced steel (which melts at 3000 degrees) and weakened the 47 columns on one floor simultaneously within 45 minutes and hour and one half respectively (going off the top of my head with the times, but I know they were under two hours)?  This is what would have had too happen for the 3 buildings to collapse straight down as they did.  Or it was a controlled demolition?  Now, I might be able to buy it happening once but three times seems a little beyond the pale of simple chance, don’t you think?  But when we look at the footage and pictures, the most telling evidence is where the two aircraft struck on the building.  Neither, hit dead center in relation to the floor of the building, they hit to the side.  And as anyone who has built a house of cards knows, if you pull the card on the side out it will fall in that direction.  If you pull the cards out the center it will fall straight down.  It really is that simple.  You saw it with your own eyes.  The facts are not refutable.
To sevon- he said that his hypothesis was based on the characteristics of the fire that were viewed thru footage and eyewitness account and how they related to how thermite burns. I believe he said that only thermite produces these effects.  Seems that your argument is only based on this issue.  Lets take whether not it was thermite out of the equation.   Det cord can cut steel just as well as thermite.  Please explain how three building still dropped straight down?  And please don’t tell me that it my argument that I have to prove, as I stated above, you saw it with you own eyes.  Any 8-year-old child knows this principle.  And if you don’t like the house of cards theory, how about building a fort, a snowman, a sandcastle, etc… most kids learn very young that if you weaken one side of structure it will topple in that direction.  And yet we are to believe that in three separate instances those laws of physics were abated and the perfect conditions were made to come about by simply flying a jet loaded with fuel into a building.