ROMANS 13: A Deceptive Mistranslation.

[mayb]

I guess that's why Obama was called God's Minister in the letter sent to the churches.

[Real Pilgrim]

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[redeux]

What we have here is a Calvinist!

Calvinist believe we have no free will, GOD "ordained" people to hell...with no chance of Salvation and therefore GOD "ordains" Evil Government...even though GOD cannot Sin.

The Calvin doctrine is one of...if not the most damnedest doctrines out there!

You want to talk about the Government hiring Preachers to push their doctrine of Romans 13 and submission to Government...look no further than the CALVINISTS!!!

"Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked" ~ {Psalm 97:10}

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" ~ {Isaiah 5:20}

THAT IS A TOTAL FALSE ACCOUNT OF CALVINISM......

[Dok]

THAT IS A TOTAL FALSE ACCOUNT OF CALVINISM......

could you elaborate a little more please?

[tinfoiltruth]

I think everything has a claus in it.

yes romans 13 says submit to government because it is appointed by God. But The Bible also says that when you become a christian you are held to a higher standard than the rest of the world. you will be judged differently as well.

what that means is if the government tells you to do something that is against what the bible says or what you have been commanded to do by God, then you must rebel.

this is kinda simplified but this is my understanding of all of scripture not just one chapter. the bible is to be read as a book, not as a few versus at a time.

[redeux]

could you elaborate a little more please?

Calvinists do not believe God Ordained people to hell..............all men are born of sin, they earn the wages of sin which is death....