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Author Topic: CALIFORNIA TO CUT SOCIAL SERVICES DUE TO BUDGETARY SHORTFALLS-UNREST TO FOLLOW  (Read 5743 times)
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« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2009, 12:24:41 PM »

One of my sister-in-laws lives in LA. She said they can do what they want with her body. They can't take her soul which belongs to GOD. She's so clueless and dumbed down. It's something how these self proclaimed "christians" break and change the rules of their religion. She lived with her future husband before marrying. Her father caught her and refused to go to her wedding and walk her down the isle. He said you lied to the priest, you're bad. So he took it upon himself to judge and punish her. They twist everything to suit them. Their God is supposed to do the judging, right? And all these christian women that have sex before marriage have the nerve to wear white.
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« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2009, 01:55:39 PM »

Wouldn't Kalifornia's economy make it top ten if it was an independent nation?  How can an economy that large be in such shambles?

It's not the economy that is at fault. It is an out of control Legislature (which discovered it can tax then spend the money on entitlements) a governor way out of his league (sound bites are great but knowing your shit when it comes to leadership and crisis management would be better) and a population set against itself. Remember, California is where the idea of identity politics originates from.
Add in the fact that a full third of the population lives in areas where their water has to be piped in from other states and you got a recipe for a madhouse.
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« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2009, 02:46:18 PM »

The California Crisis is directly due to Arnold Schwartzeneggars Fascist Environmental policies that have outsourced all production to other states and futhermore other countries. If you emite certain amounts of harmless gasses you pay insane taxes and go bankrupt, so what do you do? Move the business overseas, or to a State with rational Policy.
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« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2009, 03:18:38 PM »

I love this pic from larouches website:
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« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2009, 03:20:03 PM »

I agree both Revolt and HeavyHeEB on this one its quite simple while they are so broke and its not entirely Arnold's fault.  It is a combination of a number of factors culminating in the budget defiencies we see here today.  The job losses leave more people in need of welfare, and less people paying taxes, the reduction in consumerism leaves less people making purchases so less sales tax, the decrease in the velocity of the money.  The illegal immigration problem who is paying for their healthcare and childbirths?  Escpecially if all there income is black?  

So the state faces a problematic situation more people in need than before with less tax revenue to pay for it.  Very simple spending more taking in less.  The biggest problem with government are its spending inefficiencies.  For instance I try to stretch every penny I earn because I work for it.  When they are spending other peoples money they could care less how much they pay for something.  When people receive free money they could care less how they spend it.  I am sure you have all heard the stories of single mothers having more and more kids so they get bigger welfare checks, thats the type of problems that need to be cut out.  Government needs to do a better job streching those pennies an making sure the money gets where it is suppose to go.  

Like Revolt noted why would a business stick around and provide jobs if its taxed so high it can't make a profit.  Why drive to work to make minimum wage when crossing the bridge twice costs 16 bucks and gas for the day another 10 and you only make 60 bucks in a day?  

California has too damn people, would it be an interesting trial ground for martial law I think so, I don't believe nearly as many people are armed as are up where I am.  In the country where I live just about everyone's a hunter and knows how to shoot.
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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2009, 03:25:12 PM »

The Commuting to work issue can easily be solved by  a Federal and State joint investment into a high tech transit system, mainly a very HIGH speed Magnetic based railway. This would create jobs now, and when built relieve congestion, provide more efficient transportation for civilians, and provide a source of revenue for the State that actually HELPS it's citizens. Think of turning a 3 hour Round Trip commute into 30 minutes each way - that is 2 additional hours of time for the individual to spend with their family, work, or what have you. It also cleans up massive congestion on the already overloaded Highway systems.
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2009, 03:28:42 PM »

Here is my stimulus plan, bring the troops home with their fat checks from hazard pay, stop funding the illegal wars in the middle east. OUr troops can help by shopping here.
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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2009, 03:33:22 PM »

Here is my stimulus plan, bring the troops home with their fat checks from hazard pay, stop funding the illegal wars in the middle east. OUr troops can help by shopping here.
There is no "Stimulus" Plan that can save the world as we know it other then putting the entire system into banktuptcy, overhauling it and re-investing in our infrastructure. And by infrastructure i mean Nuclear power, New Technology in transit, agriculture, science........ NOT SOLAR PANELS , as LaRouche says, "Solar Fields create Deserts". We do not want to take farm land that is much needed and turn it into a field of wind turbines and solar panels, it is absurd and genocidal to the tune of the World Wildlife Fund's antics.
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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2009, 03:58:03 PM »




(balance of entry removed by Shorebreak - I'm only responding to the final sentence)

...Granted,we all know or have met someone that sucks the welfare system dry that doesn't deserve it and could easily work,but most us have worked and paid into this our entire lives,and we DO DESERVE IT.

My friend, if you understood how the welfare system is funded you would probably go back to working rather than determining that you are entitled to your childrens money.

I was interested in this quote from the article in the OP:

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But instead of halting all children's benefits after five years, the office suggests modifying the safety-net program so that parents who aren't working would be required to complete at least 20 hours of community service per week in their counties in order for their children to continue getting aid.

We're facing an orchestrated economic collapse that has been killing our industry and leaving our citizens unemployed for many years. Now, in response to aid recipients not working, they must perform mandatory community service to feed their kids?

I'm a firm believer in "pay as you go". When I lost a job a couple of years ago, I had seven mouths to feed but I refused to apply for unemployment. Rest assured, I won't accept government mandated money from you or your kids until I've exhausted every last resource.

Now then... what does it mean when we have governments who enable our industry to leave the country, and who implodes our once-great education system, leaving cities full of failed communities and citizens, and who then turns around and tells us that they'll feed our kids if we perform mandatory work for them?

I call it criminal and treason.
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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2009, 04:06:13 PM »

You cannot eliminate the welfare system. You need to have empathy for others. Disabled people who cannot work (Blind, crippled, diseased) and cannot afford to live, that are US Citizens, Do NOT deserve to be tossed aside.

I am for a re-vamping of our whole system but i refuse to go to any side of extremism, and one example of extremism is completely eliminating welfare.

If our system was not a fraud, if our Monetary system invested in OUR country instead of banks and foreigners, we would have a surplus to pay for these expenses at no addition cost to the tax payer.

You're personal ideoligy of "Pay as you go" is noble but, not feasable for some people and i will not go to the point of saying we should eliminate our entire welfare system. No, we need to re-structure the whole economic and monetary system. We need a stable system that developes land and resouces. We need a system that invests in infrastructure that is USEFUL to the population, Not fields full of god damned solar panels where Farm Land should be. We need Nuclear power plants to be built at a tremendous rate.

The Current system cannot support even HALF of the world population and the Social Darwinists will have you believe it is because of "Over-Population"... No it is because of "Under-Developement" and theivery.
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« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2009, 05:17:46 PM »


You cannot eliminate the welfare system. You need to have empathy for others. Disabled people who cannot work (Blind, crippled, diseased) and cannot afford to live, that are US Citizens, Do NOT deserve to be tossed aside.

I am for a re-vamping of our whole system but i refuse to go to any side of extremism, and one example of extremism is completely eliminating welfare.

I agree that a level of welfare is a necessity for any civilised nation. But not our current system. Most voters don't realize that welfare is promoted and expanded because for every dollar that goes out, the taxpayers pay interest on the loan that provided the dollar.

With regards to supporting the less fortunate, here's a thought:

"Apathy in the face of relievable human suffering is radical evil"

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« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2009, 05:41:55 PM »

Remember when i said i'd help you first? I lied.

anyone anyone

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« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2009, 06:03:30 PM »

.....all those black folks that thought Obama was going to make them rich are going to be pissed when their government check gets yanked.  Riots for sure.

All the people like this woman are going to be very angry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJdu-HCyGZE
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« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2009, 06:42:47 PM »


Arny doesn't seem to mind, he has allways been an advocate of dictatorship.

This of course will give him status with the NWO and mates. You can be that folks will be getting antsy, and of course homeland and their frineds from Blacwater will intervene, plus, the state and local now highly trained in riot control, the FBI, DIA,and *sectors* of the Armed forces.

The undercover instigators will have a field day, once a few GI's are wacked out , its going to be the OK  coral.

God help the innocents. FEMA has its doors open.

The plan keeps on going. I'm sure Obama is very concered , has he passed out bubble gun or kool aid.

No problem for the regime, they will suffer it out with surf and turf, ya know, some filet mignon w/ lobster tail, salad, and 180$ champagne to wash it down as they toast the beggining of their domestic  civilian infilatration and incarceration of so called disidents.

Remember Bushburger, a slip nothing, a clear and obvious threat, a con mans giveaway- he left obama in full control knowingly,," If your not with us your against us"
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« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2009, 06:49:42 PM »




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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2009, 06:58:25 PM »

I just had a thought, maybe I'm a little too paranoid but, what if this is just a ploy to make the Feds look the Hero's.
California stops welfare payments as well as other essential services and in come FEMA and DHS to the rescue.
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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2009, 06:58:48 PM »

I love this pic from larouches website:
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Does that bitch have one green eye and one blue eye?  
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« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2009, 07:01:32 PM »

Does that bitch have one green eye and one blue eye?  

Who knows what that evil lizard-bitch has?
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« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2009, 07:01:37 PM »

Maybe this will be a wake up opportunity for welfare recipients to realize that panhandling from the government is a folly and slap in the face to a free society.
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« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2009, 07:05:12 PM »

I just had a thought, maybe I'm a little too paranoid but, what if this is just a ploy to make the Feds look the Hero's.
California stops welfare payments as well as other essential services and in come FEMA and DHS to the rescue.
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  FEMA will help but not in a good way---martial law and FEMA Camps.  California may be the test case for martial law.  I'm sure the feds would have liked a state with a smaller population.
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« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2009, 04:12:28 AM »

I just had a thought, maybe I'm a little too paranoid but, what if this is just a ploy to make the Feds look the Hero's.
California stops welfare payments as well as other essential services and in come FEMA and DHS to the rescue.
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You are hitting on it. Once people begin in a mob senrio, (a mindless venture), coupled with armed instigators, a few shots fired, shops broken into.

Along comes the white hats, the good guys, Homeland and their crew of alphabet soup units and bring peace. Thats going to be the spin. protecting our citz.
The reality, instigators will push for violence, perhaps wack out a few cops of military.
This will paint the picture to the ignorent that the Gov. is saving them.The NSM will have front page news declaring the traitors are being incarcerated.
Yes, this will be the beggining of the slander of all disidents, (look what they are doing to our nation, Obama will save us fom the rebels, rabble rousing criminal types)..

The sheeple will be hiding, and praising the efforts of our wonderful Gov.as they incarcerate the mobbers in FEMA units, and begin their co-ordinated search for more of these types, pre-emtive attack so to say. The gov. will find these groups and nail them, the citizenry will be safe, these disenters and traitors to Ombamos cure for this nation will pay.   FEAR....

This is the key to their plan, and Arny is all for it. He awaits his day to be given his seat at the table of power.
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