Obama strikes missiles into Pakistan 14 killed including 3 children

[Revolt426]

I ain't buying any Media sources till i see something out of SOMEONEs mouth inthat administration, other then a newspaper speculation...

You show me a ranking official admitting to firing those missiles on behalf of Obama's request, then i believe it.

The Robert Gibbs press Conference was such an oddity that i cannot even understand.

[Triadtropz]

The Robert Gibbs press Conference was such an oddity that i cannot even understand.

I missed the press conference but heard when they questioned him he completlely balked...and said no comment?..

[Revolt426]

I missed the press conference but heard when they questioned him he completlely balked...and said no comment?..

I was watching it live! i saw him ! he loooked like a frightened DEER ABOUT TO GET HIT BY A CAR!

He was asked about the involvement of Obama in the attack and said " I wont talk about that" , asked again, repeated " I wont talk about that"

[TelepesT]

I was watching it live! i saw him ! he loooked like a frightened DEER ABOUT TO GET HIT BY A CAR!

He was asked about the involvement of Obama in the attack and said " I wont talk about that" , asked again, repeated " I wont talk about that"

See this is am open and transparent administration

[Revolt426]

See this is am open and transparent administration

See this is the difference between campaigning for President, then actually being inthe Whitehouse and dealing with the Bankers. You think you can have this great administration and then you have a load of suprises waiting for you when in office. You are sabatoged if you do not follow orders. And that is what i am trying to figure out, is he Being Sabatoged or is he Conducting the attacks directly.

[Geolibertarian]

See this is the difference between campaigning for President, then actually being inthe Whitehouse and dealing with the Bankers. You think you can have this great administration and then you have a load of suprises waiting for you when in office. You are sabatoged if you do not follow orders. And that is what i am trying to figure out, is he Being Sabatoged or is he Conducting the attacks directly.

I'm afraid I don't understand what the big mystery is. He essentially said, during the campaign, that Pakistan was at or near the top of his target list.

If someone says he's going to do something, then proceeds to do it, what's there to "figure out"? 

[TelepesT]

See this is the difference between campaigning for President, then actually being inthe Whitehouse and dealing with the Bankers. You think you can have this great administration and then you have a load of suprises waiting for you when in office. You are sabatoged if you do not follow orders. And that is what i am trying to figure out, is he Being Sabatoged or is he Conducting the attacks directly.

Didnt Bush Appoint a WAR CZAR so he didnt have to make these decisions?. I guess they dont know what to do now that cheney is gone

[Revolt426]

I'm afraid I don't understand what the big mystery is. He essentially said, during the campaign, that Pakistan was at or near the top of his target list.

If someone says he's going to do something, then proceeds to do it, what's there to "figure out"? 

Why doesn't he say it then!? Why is no one from his administration saying a word about it? He says he is going to do something, does it, then shuts his mouth?...

[Geolibertarian]

Why doesn't he say it then!? Why is no one from his administration saying a word about it? He says he is going to do something, does it, then shuts his mouth?...

Maybe he simply doesn't want to prematurely destroy his popularity among his "anti-war" base until he's had a chance to fully implement his draconian economic agenda.

[Revolt426]

Maybe he simply doesn't want to prematurely destroy his popularity among his "anti-war" base until he's had a chance to fully implement his draconian economic agenda.

Maybe! Maybe another reason. I want proof. I want someone in that damn Administration to come out and say WHO ordered and conducted those missile strikes.

[Geolibertarian]

Maybe! Maybe another reason. I want proof. I want someone in that damn Administration to come out and say WHO ordered and conducted those missile strikes.

Since this corresponds with what Obama said he was going to do during the campaign, I want proof that he wasn't behind this.

The burden of proof is on him, not his critics.

[Revolt426]

Since this corresponds with what Obama said he was going to do during the campaign, I want proof that he wasn't behind this.

The burden of proof is on him, not his critics.

Fine, either way i want someone in the admin. to come out and SAY something about the missile strike, this is unheard of. Even the Bush Admin admitted everytime when it hit Pakistan and blamed it on Al Queada

[chris jones]

I would take that newspaper story with a grain of salt..it was probably planted by the CIA..so it looks like he gave permission.

Hi T.

The military is not an idependent arm of the commander and chief. They can not act on their own valition, or they face serious charges.
If he did not give the order, which I DOUBT, he is the man in the throne of power, he should be slicing and dicing the whoever did give this order, is he.

Back to reality, he ordered this or approved it What was his remarks regarding Pakistan before he became the ruler, ( HE WOULD INVADE Pakistan) his words, check it out bro.
He is not a simpleton baking cakes for the hungry, he is a socipathic liar, conman, egotripping, powermonger. His mission is to swoon the SM's, once they are in his pocket his methodry will change.
Many are hoping he would bring order and justice, Triad, I have a feeling perhaps you had put this man on your wish list. Sorry to inject my oppinion, but he is fully aware of where his term is headed, his script has been laid out and formatted, he is going the full route.
I have no illusion about this fake, never did, nor McCain, nor Hillary. They are the crew, thats it my friend. Honey pours from his mouth and his hands are soaked in blood, he has proven his capacity to order murder, a prerequisite for these freaks.
He accepted this long before he was nominated, you can bet on it. If not he would never have been to the primarys. We will bear witness to a reverse image of Bushburger, however it is but an image that will rally the SM's, they can not accept the truht, therfor the lie is  their safe alterantive.
This is the tip of the iceberg, the final phase is in oeperation, give it a year and he will expose complety his false agendas, too late to make moves the way things are going. In fact 50 years to late.

[David Rothscum]

Hi T.

The military is not an idependent arm of the commander and chief. They can not act on their own valition, or they face serious charges.
If he did not give the order, which I DOUBT, he is the man in the throne of power, he should be slicing and dicing the whoever did give this order, is he.

Back to reality, he ordered this or approved it What was his remarks regarding Pakistan before he became the ruler, ( HE WOULD INVADE Pakistan) his words, check it out bro.
He is not a simpleton baking cakes for the hungry, he is a socipathic liar, conman, egotripping, powermonger. His mission is to swoon the SM's, once they are in his pocket his methodry will change.
Many are hoping he would bring order and justice, Triad, I have a feeling perhaps you had put this man on your wish list. Sorry to inject my oppinion, but he is fully aware of where his term is headed, his script has been laid out and formatted, he is going the full route.
I have no illusion about this fake, never did, nor McCain, nor Hillary. They are the crew, thats it my friend. Honey pours from his mouth and his hands are soaked in blood, he has proven his capacity to order murder, a prerequisite for these freaks.
He accepted this long before he was nominated, you can bet on it. If not he would never have been to the primarys. We will bear witness to a reverse image of Bushburger, however it is but an image that will rally the SM's, they can not accept the truht, therfor the lie is  their safe alterantive.
This is the tip of the iceberg, the final phase is in oeperation, give it a year and he will expose complety his false agendas, too late to make moves the way things are going. In fact 50 years to late.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Revolt426]

Actually in reality, there are rogue military forces that are not under the presidents control - but in fantasy land the President does control the whole military.

[Q]

Actually in reality, there are rogue military forces that are not under the presidents control - but in fantasy land the President does control the whole military.

FFS!

Stop giving cover to Obama - you're worse than Rivero with this shite.

UNLESS Obama publicly denounces the attacks and fires all those responsible, and publicly apologises to the Paks, then HE IS RESPONSIBLE. PERIOD.

All this talk does is create obscurant and cover for the Obama regime.

[Revolt426]

FFS!

Stop giving cover to Obama - you're worse than Rivero with this shite.

UNLESS Obama publicly denounces the attacks and fires all those responsible, and publicly apologises to the Paks, then HE IS RESPONSIBLE. PERIOD.

All this talk does is create obscurant and cover for the Obama regime.

I am giving cover to no one. I want to know why no one in Obama's administration will talk about the missile strike. It's a simple question , even the Bush Admin yapped about hitting Pakistan on a weekly basis to "get al queda" why are they shutting their mouths? That is my question and i have the right to voice it

[Q]

I am giving cover to no one. I want to know why no one in Obama's administration will talk about the missile strike. It's a simple question , even the Bush Admin yapped about hitting Pakistan on a weekly basis to "get al queda" why are they shutting their mouths? That is my question and i have the right to voice it

They don't want to put Obama's hand up and admit to the murder of little kids - especially in the wake of Gaza.

This does not mean that he didn't order it, only that he's a coward and obfuscator as well as a mass murderer.

Let's not play along with it like by making excuses or offering scenarios where Obama might not be responsible.

[Revolt426]

They don't want to put Obama's hand up and admit to the murder of little kids - especially in the wake of Gaza.

This does not mean that he didn't order it, only that he's a coward and obfuscator as well as a mass murderer.

Let's not play along with it like by making excuses or offering scenarios where Obama might not be responsible.

If you read history, you will find Presidents have been sabatoged in the past by others in their administration, starting with THOMAS JEFFERSON and his treasonas VP Aaron Burr . I am not playing any games here , i simply want someone in that administration to say something about those missile attacks. I think it is a reasonable request, if you dont then we can respectfully disagree.

[Q]

If you read history, you will find Presidents have been sabatoged in the past by others in their administration, starting with THOMAS JEFFERSON and his treasonas VP Aaron Burr . I am not playing any games here , i simply want someone in that administration to say something about those missile attacks. I think it is a reasonable request, if you dont then we can respectfully disagree.

I agree - I would like to hear the regime comment also - but until they do our default assumption must be that Obama is completely responsible for the attack and ordered it...agreed?

[Revolt426]

I agree - I would like to hear the regime comment also - but until they do our default assumption must be that Obama is completely responsible for the attack and ordered it...agreed?

Nope. I dont agree to that because there are things that go on behind the Whitehouse Closed Doors that WE do not know about. But i do agree that he MUST come out and say something soon OR he will face responsibility, if that makes you feel better

[Revolt426]

After i realized that there were Rogue Military forces that were beyond the actual presidents control , and i realized that there are foreign players constantly involved in US affairs i learned to give new presidents a bit of leeway before blaming them for something with no evidence.. Task Force 88 was the Ringing Bell in my head. When Cheney sent them into Syria and launched a Helecopter Attack avoiding the CHAIN OF COMMAND, directly controlled by Cheney. That is why i am taking this position - but i do agree that if he does not come out soon with a legit explanation he is responsible.

[Q]

Nope. I dont agree to that because there are things that go on behind the Whitehouse Closed Doors that WE do not know about. But i do agree that he MUST come out and say something soon OR he will face responsibility, if that makes you feel better

I think you have things back to front..Obama is automatically responsible UNLESS and UNTIL he publicly denounces the attacks...otherwise when does this responsibility kick in? After a day, a week? It's a nonsense and allows this sort of "grey area" cover to result by default.

[Revolt426]

I think you have things back to front..Obama is automatically responsible UNLESS and UNTIL he publicly denounces the attacks...otherwise when does this responsibility kick in? After a day, a week? It's a nonsense and allows this sort of grey area to result by default.

I said we have to agree to disagree because i BELIEVE there is a grey area. I believe there are Rogue Military Groups that are not under the Presidents command because i've seen evidence. No one knows what is going on inthe Whitehouse , none of us have ever been Presidents. No one knows WHO GWB and Cheney were on a teleconference with on 9-11. No one knows WHO was piloting the E4B Doomsday planes. So we will see, as for a time table? i'll give him a few days.

[Joseon]

Because the Galactic Federation actually carried out this attack right?

LoL.. The the sixth density was given orders carry out the bombings?

[Revolt426]

Ok i got my answer, And it was exactly what i expected. Biden is going to be the new Cheney, Obama is a clueless incompetent. enjoy:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=83794&sectionid=351020401

Biden vows more strikes inside Pakistan Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:29:10 GMT
 
 
US Vice President Joe Biden emphasizes that Pentagon would not hesitate to launch strikes inside Pakistani territories near the Afghan border.
"I can say that the President of the United States said during his campaign and in the debates that if there is an actionable target, of a high-level al-Qaeda personnel, that he would not hesitate to use action to deal with that," Pakistani media quoted him on Monday.

The remarks come after 22 people were killed in two separate US missile strikes in the Waziristan region, on Friday.

US commanders said they had consulted President Barack Obama before launching recent drone attacks on Pakistan's tribal belt bordering Afghanistan.

"Four days after assuming the presidency, he (Obama) was consulted by US commanders before they launched the two attacks," Guardian said Sunday.

Earlier, Obama had threatened to invade and send ground troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists - even without permission from Pakistan's Government.

Obama has also hinted at increased operations in Pakistan, saying he thought George W. Bush had made a mistake in switching to Iraq before completing the job against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Obama has made the war in Afghanistan and what the US calls the intertwined fight with al-Qaeda and Taliban in Pakistan a foreign policy priority. He has emphasized that Pakistan and Afghanistan are the central front in the US so-called war against terrorism.

Meanwhile Pakistan's Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Monday said he will take up the issue with world leaders at an upcoming economic summit in Davos, Switzerland.

Gilani was also of the opinion that the US policy in Afghanistan had not been successful as the situation in the neighboring country was not normal and violence has taken a surge.

The tribal regions along the shared border between Pakistan and Afghanistan became safe havens for militants after the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 toppled the Taliban regime, sending insurgents across the border.

The US and its western allies have accused Pakistan of 'not doing enough' to prevent attacks on supply routes as well as cross-border operations carried out by insurgents against foreign troops in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon has used this as a pretext to launch drone attacks on Pakistan's tribal regions -- a move that has increased tension between Islamabad and Washington and has triggered anti-American sentiments among the Pakistani people.


CIA and the US military use unmanned drones armed with hellfire missiles to attack Pakistan
Over 500 people -- suspected militants as well as civilians -- have been killed in such attacks.

Pakistan says that the drone attacks undermine the country's sovereignty and trigger public anger, which undermines the country's counter-terrorism efforts.

US drones have carried out at least 33 missile strikes in Pakistan's tribal areas since the new Pakistani government came to power in March last year.

Pakistan's influential army has repeatedly claimed readiness to defend the country's sovereignty even if it entails clashing with US and NATO forces along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
 

[TahoeBlue]

This might be an interesting link in the near future...


http://www.dawn.com/
Pakistans leading English News


http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/dawn+content+library/dawn/specials/obamas-white-house/


http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/dawn+content+library/dawn/news/latest-news/

World: Missile strikes in Pakistan will continue: GatesThe decision of continuing strikes in tribal areas has been conveyed to the Pakistani government, says Robert Gates.

WASHINGTON: The United States will continue to carry out missile strikes against al Qaeda militants in Pakistan, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Tuesday.
Pakistani officials have complained publicly about the attacks from unmanned US aircraft in tribal areas, saying they are a violation of sovereignty and increase resentment towards both Pakistan's government and the United States.
US officials normally decline to comment publicly on reports of the missile strikes, but Gates made an exception when asked about Pakistan's complaints at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
US drones fired missiles into the northwestern regions of North and South Waziristan late on Friday, killing 17 people, according to intelligence officials and residents, in the first such strike since Barack Obama became US president, succeeding George W. Bush.
‘Both President Bush and President Obama have made clear that we will go after al Qaeda wherever al Qaeda is and we will continue to pursue that,’ Gates said.
Asked by committee chairman Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat, if that decision had been conveyed to the Pakistani government, Gates replied: ‘Yes, sir.’


http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/world/obama+wants+air+strikes+into+fata+to+continue-rs

The Americans are not your enemy: Obama
Obama states that his administration will adopt a more comprehensive approach in its ties with the Muslim world.


Obama wants air strikes into Fata to continue: NYT

WASHINGTON: Hours after US missiles killed 20 people in Fata, President Barack Obama convened a meeting of his top national security advisers and endorsed the decision to continue drone strikes into Pakistan.

[chris jones]

I take it that eliminates any doubts!

We have seem to forgotten that Obama and Hillary both supported an invasion of Pakistan, long before he was president elect.

Guys and gals, the story tellers are giving us lullabys and placebos, the, when the bow breaks the baby will fall cradle and all-*Sheeple.

We are not sheeple, we are truthers. Yes it is hard to admit to and face the reality in which we find ourselves and this nation.

The crew on top are criminals, they razzle dazzle the ignorent, have utilized fear tatics as did Adolf, and have created a class division, us and the Leaders-their playmates and moneygrubbing murderers.

Their crimes are not simple felons, they are world class genocidal sociopaths, war crimes, larceny in amounts that stagger the average mans imagination. We have been manipulated and deceived, if any one on this board finds it in their heart and mind to beleive in  this current regime, I beleive that they have reached a point of hoplessness and in desperation seek a savior. I am sorry to say, we will not find one among this present cabinet.

Mr. Obama has turned his back on the human beings in Gaza, their gulag and slaughter.
Mr. Obama is sending troops to Afghanistan.
Mr. Obama is not withdrawing all troops from Iraq, after the slaughter of 1.5 million.
Mr. Obama has just sanctioned the crossing of  the international border of Pakistan, and the killing of innocents.
Mr. Obama, declared while a candidate he would invade Iraq.
Mr. Obama, decalared invlountary service till the age of 42, to include military service, may be a option.
Mr. Obama has chosen a cabinet of sociaopathis kill crazy pyscos.
Mr. Obama has let the Fed. do as it will, despite his placebos and rheotric.
These are facts, not  mere speculation, he is a sold out perfroming his role that has been laid out for him, in return he is above the law, just as Bush and his crew.
Is it not clear that we are a controlled society, that our constitution has been disregarded, our bill of rights is in shambles.

MR. Obama has let genocidal criminals (traitors) walk free as birds, they are above the law, we are not.
They are not expendable, we are. Any honest congressman has been shunned and disregarded.

I hope I burst any dillusional bubbles, not to say that the majority here are that, by no means, however some newcomers may beleive there is change on the way for the better,( its human nature afterall).
The truth is not a fairly tale, Mr. Obama has proven to be a liar, and a conman. "God help the citizens of this nation".
The ride down the rabbit hole is bumpy and frightning, the decision remains, either face the truth or submit to  the illusion.

[Revolt426]

I am under no illusion - I think Obama is another Bush - which is to say he runs nothing and Biden will be conducting the strikes in collusion with Bob Gates and Jones. I think he is an incompetent that is way in over his head.

[chris jones]

I am under no illusion - I think Obama is another Bush - which is to say he runs nothing and Biden will be conducting the strikes in collusion with Bob Gates and Jones. I think he is an incompetent that is way in over his head.

Hi R.

Yes, I agree, he is another Bush. However with all due respect, Bush was in my oppinion a master con, he knew exactly what his role was, and his rewards, he played the buffoon to a T, and let Cheney be the Darth Vader in their genocidal soap opera.

Obama, is another clever con, he will lay blame on others and attempt to remain the poor slob being swayed into genocide.

He is a rabidd, fetered peice of waste, using his sociapathic talents to woo the masses, and to give the sheeple the impression he is being swayed.

There will be change, things will get werse. Bush was the hammer, Obama is the chain saw with a yellow ribbong tied around it.

Not coming down on your oppinion, I know your posts and like them, this is but my honest oppinion.

[Revolt426]

I disagree. I dont think Bush knew what he was getting into when he was campaigning for Presidency, announcing that he would cut Government, Not police the world etc etc....

Look at a Bush Speech as GOV of texas and the campaign trail, then look at his speech paterns once he got into the whitehouse. You can clearly tell he was forced to become an actor and he was not good at it.

Obama was obviously told certain things, and obviously not told certain things. The Robert Gibbs Conference was a dead giveaway that they are in over their heads, i saw it live on TV and his reaction was that of a scared child when questioned about Obama's involvement inthe strike.

[Revolt426]

The Globalists have generally ( back to the British Empire) infiltrated the US office through the use of Vice President. Many examples of this have occured since Thomas Jefferson and his Traitor VP Aaron Burr.

99% of the time you have an assassination of the President Elect if he does not cave into the criminals and let them do as they please.

Go through the history of the US and look at every Presidential Assassination, and who then became President after the assassination, and what the new President did. It is a re-occuring issue and no one notices it.

JFK is the most popular example of a President who did NOT cave in, however there are more, such as McKinnely. McKinnely ran on a Lincoln Economic Base of interlinking the US / South America for trade via a new Railway system. He was assassinated immediately and his VP, Teddy Roosevelt, Cousin of a British Official, destroyed our country for 8 years via Environmental Fascism.

[chris jones]

No debate is necessary, I respect your oppinion, and realize you are of the oppinion that  the VP are in fact bending the mind of this man.

Please tell me, did Obama declare he would invade Pakistan.
Did he mention involuntary serivce.
Did he pick his crew.
Did Bidens wife admit to Obamas offer to her husband.
Did Obama state he would end the war in Iraq.
Has Mr. Obama investigated into Bushes action when in office.
Has he attempted  downgrading torture.
Has he admitted to the Ok of the insurgency and ultimate killings in Pak.
Has he interfered in domestic spying.
Has he investigated the FED's larceny and betrayal.
Did he refuse to meet with a humanitarians who were in Gaza during the genocide, YES, he was going to a golf game and staying in a hotel at 3,500 a day, plus SS agents and MI payments, jets, and transports etc, as his fellow citizens lost their home and went hungry. No one broke his arm to do what he has done, he is the commander and chief, no matter if cheney was his VP.

R. These guys are on the NWO, VIP list, they knew they would be privy to all means available to world domination and the ultimate takedown of our freedoms.

Obama is a excellant con, he should have gone to hollywood, problem, they dont pay as much nor swing with the power crew.

Bush, was a praticed con, he could use his Texas twang when ordering grits in the west, or could revert to plain english in the N.E., sociopaths are hard to trap or catch. They are sold out and far beyond our concept of normal.
Do you remember when Bush was govenor of Texas and did not give a stay of execution to the woman inmate on death row. A few hours before they killed her, he threw her a kiss and waved goodby. Does that appear to be a nice guy being led by monsters or simply a sociopath showing his true colars.
Con men will allways give themsleves away. Their egos will demand they give hints, why, they consider this a a ego prize.
Daddy Bush knew his son well. Mr. Bush has not conscience, nor does Obama, he is sold out to the core. I hope we can get back to this in about a year from now.

[Revolt426]

No i am not saying the VP is bending the mind. I am saying he was likely told one thing on the way in (Campaign) and is witnessing something different (Now), anyway, it is irrelivent now because the World's economy is melting down. Will he nationalize all banks when the time for that real decision comes? or will he do the right thing and put the system into banktupcy, and wipe out all the derivatives. That is the only question right now... Until then (The Hyperinflationary blowout crisis) the British and Saudi's will wreak havoc all over the world via false flag attacks, counter intelligence etc etc... in order to prevent any unity. That is what Kissinger was referring to when he stated his "Chaos" option... so he is WAY in over his head (Obama) and it remains to be seen if this nation will still be a sovereign nation by the end of this year.