More fission theories including 4th generation zionist nukes

[EdWardMD]

9/11/01 Attacks Were An Inside/Outside Job
Proven Referenced Evidence of 4th Generation Micro Nukes in WTC1, WTC2, & WTC6

Thermate, C4, Micro Nukes and 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job Is The Only Proven Theory that Complies with All of the Evidence in One Proven Theory.

To date, not one valid referenced fact has been established to refute a single proven fact in about 300 references presented in the article, let alone the primary evidence for micro nukes in the WTC.

1. Three Massive WTC Craters - See us gov LIDAR proof: http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

2. Five Acres of WTC Land Brought to Seering Temperatures in a Few Hours by an 'Anaerobic, Chlorine Fueled "Fire" - Impossible by Basic Laws of Physics. See us gov Thermal Images proof:
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

3. Tritium Levels 55 Times (normal) Background Levels assessed a numerical value of 'traces' and 'of no human concern'. See us gov (DOE report on Tritium) proof: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141

4. An Impossible "Fire" (Combustion Process). See Laws of Physics for Fire/Combustion Process and Dr. Cahill's data on 'anaerobic incineration'. http://rense.com/general77/newlaws.htm

5. And More Proprietary Evidence

Ed Ward, MD - 911 Related Articles - Chronological:

Bombs in the WTC Buildings Proves Nothing to Racist-Fascist Bigots http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/08/21/ward.htm

Micro-Nukes in the WTC  http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/ward.htm General evidence for inside job and background of micro nukes

Update: Micro-Nukes at the WTC - Main micro nuke evidence presented in this article.   http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
 
Update: Proves Micro Nukes in the WTC http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/04/16/ward.htm

Verifying the Source of WTC Tritium Levels that Are 55 Times "Background Levels" http://www.rense.com/general76/wtc.htm

Prof. Jones Denies, Ignores, Misrepresents Proven Tritium Levels 55 Times Normal Background Levels
http://www.rense.com/general77/levels.htm

Steven Jones Replies To Dr. Ed Ward
http://www.rense.com/general77/ward.htm

Prof Jones Gladly Assists Testing Unaffected WTC Items
http://www.rense.com/general77/profjh.htm

Update: Factual Evaluation of the DOE WTC Tritium Report Data - 911 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141

Breakdown of the WTC Rain and Firehose Water - 4 Million Gallons of Dilution http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/136

Prof Jones Accepts Validity of Stable Isotopic Testing For Neutron Activation of Fusion Reactions  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/142

Note: According to Dr. Deagle, he has been unable to find anyplace in the world that will perform the needed tests on the WTC sample.

Hello!?! 48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue - This concentration is almost equal to the highest concentrations of environmental contamination of the 1960's after Thousands of Megaton Nukes were 'tested'.  55 TIMES BACKGROUND AND ALMOST EQUAL TO THE HIGHEST RECORDED LEVELS OF THE 60'S IS CALLED TRACES - Dr. Jones ceased response.  This is not science, ignoring and denying 55 x what should have been found and that was after 4 million liters of dilution.  Steven Jones, the DOE report and the BYU crew CALL THIS TRACES.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/147

Note: This is based on evidence in which some of glass Tritium containers were not even melted by fire. All of the Tritium found was only in/on the unmelted glass. In any fire that can melt glass, ALL of tritium escapes into the atmosphere, unless water is poured over the source DURING the initial fire.)

Ed Ward, MD

[Dig]

Is molten steal a common occurance with micronukes as it is with thermate?

[Dig]

He still doesnt understand the basement reading..... It was ONE!!!!! elevated hot spot, confirmed twice yet he continues to spew forth about multiple craters....

He cant understand the implications.  And a nuclear flash would produced intense heat but would not have been long enough to molten the whole basement core column, where they where almost twice as thick as the center vertical risers.

Wouldn't a nuclear blast leave victims with some kind of symptoms of a nuclear blast?  Doesn't a nuclear warhead render a person somewhat injured in a distinct way?  How did the people running out from the building or trapped in the building escape the zionist nukes?  Are the zionist nukes also race based?  Were the zionist nukes only used on certain floors while other ordinances only contained more conventional technology?  Which company has the most experience in using micro-nukes on buildings (or did they decide that 9/11 would be a good "test")?

So many questions for the esteemed doctor.  But I know he is very busy, I will wait patiently for his wonderful fruits of knowledge.

[EdWardMD]

Done with the BS.  No facts countering my referenced proven facts - not interested.  I've got what I need for my article.  Gotta go shopping at the Rense store.  Will be interesting as usual.  If not, I can get it in the engines.  Hmm, why haven't I been sued - Joneses, 911 truth sites deny, misreprent, and ignore no more - They all stand behind 55 times normal = traces.  If you get one of anything everyday, then one day you get 55 IT CAN NOT BE CALLED TRACES IN ANY REALITY AND CERTAINLY NO SCIENTIFIC CALCULATION EVALUATION.   TO DO SO IS A BLATANT LIE BY LYING TREASONOUS TRAITORS HIDING THE FACTS OF MURDER.  Then we can deal with craters, hiroshima effects, wilting spires, 2 billion pounds of instant dust, etc, et al.  THEN AFTER THAT AND EVERYONE IS AGREED IT'S CORRECT AND NOT BS OR THE FACTS ARE PROVEN WRONG BY FACTS, I'LL GLADLY ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS.  Jones et al is going to have to sue, prove me wrong - and if he can prove 55 times THE NORMAL AMOUNT = TRACES.  I'll gladly retract my statement as incorrect.  Until then Jones, et al are lying treasonous traitors.

DrEd
 
GrAtom ('Gratum'), LBR, Ort, Blue - hope I got everyone - enjoyed it.  I'm not going anywhere just not posting as often or at least as much until there is something to post about (I'll post the article here) - waste of time - all the facts are there starting with 55 times normal can never be traces and certainly can never be called traces in any scientific effort.  It's a lie, by liars and traitors - assistance in subversion of the constitution is classic textbook treason involving matters of war - hiding the truth from the people regarding treason, murder, and subversion of the Constitution for oil and Israel.  What's one more DU, Agent Orange, nuclear test, Northwoods, USS Liberty, etc, et al - they've murdered the 'unchosen heathans' and a few of the chosen for decades - what's one more up close 'nuke test'.  Made me want to vomit with disgust when the proven facts surfaced, but one must deal with proven facts.

Ed

[jesqueal]

Why would there not be an EMP if nukes were used

[Dig]

I have more questions about the BS disinfo on the 4th generation zio-nukes that leave no evidence...

How come over 200 witnesses heard bombs in the buildings?

How come the witnesses heard a popcorn of explosions, "pop, pop, pop, pop, pop" for each floor exploding out?

How come there were no large flashes?

How come there were no nuke casualties?

Oh man, there must be another 5,000 questions about this.

Maybe that is the point of approved disinfo, to create more questions about the theorists than about the gov's official story.

[GoingEtheric]

More fission theories including 4th generation zionist nukes

lol

[Dig]

You know what they call jewish nukes?

jukes

[EdWardMD]

The "Traces of Tritium" Lie Is Obstruction of Justice by Accessories to Murder
This is not 'rocket science', just basic math, law and lies.

1.  "Obstruction of Justice" - http://definitions.uslegal.com/o/obstruction-of-justice/ - "hiding evidence" is part of the classic textbook definition of Obstruction of Justice.  To "conceal" or lie about evidence of a crime makes one an accessory after the fact to that crime. http://www.sagepub.com/lippmanstudy/state/oh/Ch06_Ohio.pdf

2. Trace definition as it applies to quantity:
Occurring in extremely small amounts or in quantities less than a standard limit (In the case of tritium, this standard level would be 20 TUs - the high of quoted standard background levels.).  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trace
3. The stated values of tritium from the DOE report "Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center".  "A water sample from the WTC sewer, collected on 9/13/01, contained 0.164±0.074 (2σ) nCi/L (164 pCi/L +/- 74 pCi/L - takes 1,000 trillionths to = 1 billionth) of HTO. A split water sample, collected on 9/21/01 from the basement of WTC Building 6, contained 3.53±0.17 and 2.83±0.15 nCi/L ( 3,530.0 pCi/L +/- 170 pCi/L and 2,830 pCi/L +/- 150 pCi/L), respectively.  https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf   Pico to Nano converter - pico to nano converter - http://www.unitconversion.org/prefixes/picos-to-nanos-conversion.html
4. 1 TU = 3.231 pCi/L (trillionths per liter) or 0.003231 nCi/L (billionths per liter) - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html - (My original TU calculations came out to 3.19 pCi/L, but I will gladly accept these referenced minimally higher values.  http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=1022 )
5. In 2001 normal background levels of Tritium are supposedly around 20 TUs (prior to nuclear testing in the 60's, normal background tritium water levels were 5 to 10 TUs - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html ).  However, groundwater studies show a significanlty less water concentration:
Groundwater age estimation using tritium only provides semi-quantitative, “ball
park” values:
• <0.8 TU indicates submodern water (prior to 1950s)
• 0.8 to 4 TU indicates a mix of submodern and modern water
• 5 to 15 TU indicates modern water (<5 to 10 years)
• 15 to 30 TU indicates some bomb tritium
http://www.grac.org/agedatinggroundwater.pdf   But, I will use 20 TUs as the 2001 environmental level to give all possible credibility to the lie of "Traces".

6.  Let's calculate the proven referenced facts.  Tritium level confirmed in the DOE report of traces of tritium = 3,530 pCi/L (+/- 170 pCi/L, but we will use the mean of 3,530 pCi/L).
3,530 pCi/L (the referenced lab value) divided by the backgroud level of 20TUs (20 X 3.231 p (1 TU = 3.21 pCi/L)  = 64.62 pCi/L as the high normal background/standard level.  3,530 divided by 64.62 pCi/L = 54.63 TIMES THE NORMAL BACKGROUND LEVEL.  3,530 pCi/L divided by 3.231 pCi/L (1 TU) =  1,092.54 TUs

7.  This is my fave because lies tend to eat their young.  Muon physicist Steven Jones calls 1,000 TUs "The graphs below show that hydrogen-bomb testing boosted tritium levels in rain by several orders of magnitude. (Ref.:
http://www.science.uottawa.ca/~eih/ch7/7tritium.htm ) - http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Yet, calls the exact same levels quoted in nCi/L as  "Traces" and "These
results are well below the levels of concern to human exposure…”.  http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Interesting isn't it.


8. Thomas M. Semkowa,b,, Ronald S. Hafnerc, Pravin P. Parekha,
Gordon J. Wozniakd, Douglas K. Hainesa, Liaquat Husaina,b,
Robert L. Rabune and Philip G. Williamsf 
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

Ed Ward, Md

[Unintelligable Name]

I used to know a whole plethora of information on nuclear bombs when I was about 11.

It was always fun for me to explain to someone the ~12 different ways a nuclear blast can whipe you out.

All forgotten information now -- but I can always break out the SAS manual on the suckers.

[EdWardMD]

The "Traces of Tritium" Lie Is Obstruction of Justice by Accessories to Murder
This is not 'rocket science', just basic math, law and lies.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/465

1.  "Obstruction of Justice" - http://definitions.uslegal.com/o/obstruction-of-justice/ - "hiding evidence" is part of the classic textbook definition of Obstruction of Justice.  To "conceal" or lie about evidence of a crime makes one an accessory after the fact to that crime. http://www.sagepub.com/lippmanstudy/state/oh/Ch06_Ohio.pdf

2. Trace definition as it applies to quantity:
Occurring in extremely small amounts or in quantities less than a standard limit (In the case of tritium, this standard level would be 20 TUs - the high of quoted standard background levels.).  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trace

3. The stated values of tritium from the DOE report "Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center".  "A water sample from the WTC sewer, collected on 9/13/01, contained 0.164±0.074 (2σ) nCi/L (164 pCi/L +/- 74 pCi/L - takes 1,000 trillionths to = 1 billionth) of HTO. A split water sample, collected on 9/21/01 from the basement of WTC Building 6, contained 3.53±0.17 and 2.83±0.15 nCi/L ( 3,530.0 pCi/L +/- 170 pCi/L and 2,830 pCi/L +/- 150 pCi/L), respectively.  https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf   Pico to Nano converter - http://www.unitconversion.org/prefixes/picos-to-nanos-conversion.html Nano to Pico converter - http://www.unit-conversion.info/metric.html

4. 1 TU = 3.231 pCi/L (trillionths per liter) or 0.003231 nCi/L (billionths per liter) - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html - (My original TU calculations came out to 3.19 pCi/L, but I will gladly accept these referenced minimally higher values.  http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=1022 )

5. In 2001 normal background levels of Tritium are supposedly around 20 TUs (prior to nuclear testing in the 60's, normal background tritium water levels were 5 to 10 TUs - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html ).  However, groundwater studies show a significanlty less water concentration:
Groundwater age estimation using tritium only provides semi-quantitative, “ball park” values:
• <0.8 TU indicates submodern water (prior to 1950s)
• 0.8 to 4 TU indicates a mix of submodern and modern water
• 5 to 15 TU indicates modern water (<5 to 10 years)
• 15 to 30 TU indicates some bomb tritium
http://www.grac.org/agedatinggroundwater.pdf   But, instead of "5 to 15 TU" (which would make the increase in background levels even higher), I will use 20 TUs as the 2001 environmental level to give all possible credibility to the lie of "Traces".

6.  Let's calculate the proven referenced facts.  Tritium level confirmed in the DOE report of traces of tritium = 3,530 pCi/L (+/- 170 pCi/L, but we will use the mean of 3,530 pCi/L).
3,530 pCi/L (the referenced lab value) divided by the backgroud level of 20TUs (20 X 3.231 p (1 TU = 3.21 pCi/L)  = 64.62 pCi/L as the high normal background/standard level.  3,530 divided by 64.62 pCi/L = 54.63 TIMES THE NORMAL BACKGROUND LEVEL.  3,530 pCi/L divided by 3.231 pCi/L (1 TU) =  1,092.54 TUs

7.  This is my 'fave' because lies tend to eat their young.  Muon physicist Steven Jones calls 1,000 TUs "The graphs below show that hydrogen-bomb testing boosted tritium levels in rain by several orders of magnitude. (Ref.:
http://www.science.uottawa.ca/~eih/ch7/7tritium.htm ) - http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Yet, calls the EXACT SAME LEVELS quoted in nCi/L as  "Traces" and "These results are well below the levels of concern to human exposure…”.  http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Interesting isn't it.

8. Thomas M. Semkowa, Ronald S. Hafnerc, Pravin P. Parekha,
Gordon J. Wozniakd, Douglas K. Hainesa, Liaquat Husaina,
Robert L. Rabune. Philip G. Williams and Steven Jones have all called over 1,000 TUs of Tritium, "Traces".  Even at the height of nuclear bomb testing 98% - after thousands of Megatons of nuclear testing - of the rainwater tests were 2,000 TUs or less.
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

9.  Over one year ago, Steven Jones, Alex Jones, Fetzer, Wood, most of the "BYU crew", most of the so called "911 Truth" groups/sites and indeed the public at large have been notified by me of the falseness of the "Traces" lie, but instead of promoting the truth and addressing it, have simply run from it and seem to be doing all in their power to suppress it.  http://www.rense.com/general80/prov.htm

10.  It is also important to note that the tritium present was diluted by at least some portion of 1 million liters of water accounting for BILLIONS of TUs.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/136

Thermate, C4, Micro Nukes Prove 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job.
http://www.rense.com/general80/dprah.htm

The above are my opinion based on the proven referenced facts.

Ed Ward, MD

[so_Z]

The most compelling and credible information concerning the likelihood of the existence of highly specialized "mini-nukes" can be found in this declassified DOE document.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/doe/rdd-7.html#I1
RESTRICTED DATA DECLASSIFICATION DECISIONS
1946 TO THE PRESENT
(RDD-7)

January 1, 2001

excerpt:
V. NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND RELATED TECHNOLOGY
A. GENERAL

   1. General Features

         1. Super - speculation outside Armed Forces and AEC organizations. (48-2)

         2. Fact that development of atomic warheads for guided missiles or artillery is underway - Any elaboration must be cleared by AEC and DOD prior to publication. (51-1)

         3. Mere fact that gun assembly may be used to achieve criticality. (51-1)

         4. Mere fact that implosion may be used to achieve criticality. (51-1)

         5. Mere fact that either method may be used to achieve criticality Component parts of the system will be accorded a classification corresponding to the extent that the part reveals essential nature of the system. (53-1)

         6. In-flight insertion; mere fact that U.S. has a system for nuclear arming of bombs while carrier is in flight (no other details). (56-3)

         7. Weapon reliability; Inspection of weapons: Mere fact that such inspections are made. (56-3)

         8. Mere existence of the phenomenon of predetonation. (56-3)

         9. The term "one point detonation" is declassified in connection with 1955 safety experiments. Use in connection with either planned safety experiments or a weapon accident is also unclassified. (58-14)

        10. The fact of existence of weapons with tailored outputs, e.g., enhanced x-ray, neutron or gamma-ray output; that we are hardening our weapons to enhanced weapon outputs and that high-Z materials are used in hardening nuclear weapons against high-energy x-rays. (72-11)

        11. The fact of existence of a deep-earth penetration fuzing option. (72-11)

        12. Limited Try - That feature of a coded switch which permits insertion of code possibilities only up to an established number; code tries in excess of an established number may result in a delay or lockout. (73-4)

        13. The fact that the IFI (in-flight insertion of a nuclear material capsule or other nuclear part) safing method was applied to designated, retired weapons. (80-1)

        14. The term “dial-a-yield” (DAY) and fact of its applicability to undesignated weapons. (89-3)

        15. Fact that non-spherical parts are used in some weapons, part unidentified, weapon undesignated. (91-1)

        16. Fact that multipoint detonation systems are used in undesignated weapons. (91-1)

        17. The fact of the use of high explosives in pure fusion weapon research. (98-2)

        18. Experiments done with High Explosive (HE) systems which do not resemble implosion assembled device HE systems. (98-12)

        19. Specially designed systems intended to create strong shocks propagating down a cylinder that do NOT use classified material properties in design calculations and do NOT drive materials with classified material properties into classified regions of their equations-of-state. (98-12)

        20. The experiments that were accomplished with systems listed in r. and s. above unless they (the experiments) drove materials with classified equation-of-state properties into regions which in themselves (the regions) were classified.

   2. Materials Usable/Used

         1. Type of fissionable materials used (no reference to quantities; detailed assembly, etc.). (53-1)

         2. Identification of the type of fissionable materials used in Trinity, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Bikini-Able, and Bikini-Baker models. (53-1)
            (1)   Mere fact that Pu239 alone was used in the Trinity, Nagasaki, and Crossroads events. (65-6)

         3. Use in weapons of normal, depleted [any assay] or fully enriched uranium [>90% U235] and the identification of the fissionable materials used in a specific fission weapon. (59-7) [60-4]

         4. Lithium and its compounds:
            (1)   The fact that lithium, deuterium (Li6D, LiD) are used in unspecified thermonuclear weapons. (62-7)

            (2)   The mere fact that normal lithium deuteride (LinD) is used in unspecified TN weapons. (67-1)

            (2)   The assay of top product of Li6 production plant or the fact that this top assay is used in weapons. (67-1)

            (4)   The fact that Li6H is used in unspecified weapons for hardening. (67-1)

            (5)   The fact the Li7H or LinH may be used as mockup materials in the weapons program. (67-1)
            (6)   The fact that compounds of Li6 containing tritium are used in the design of weapons as TN fuel. (72-11)

         5. Fact of use of Pu238 in milliwatt isotopic power sources for possible use in the Prescribed Action Link (PAL) program. (63-4)

         6. Revealing the general fact of existence of nuclear weapons which contain only Pu239. (67-1)

         7. Use of normal cascade top product in specific weapons. (67-1)

         8. Fact of use in specified or unspecified weapons of normal uranium or depleted uranium of any assay. (67-1)

         9. Quantity of Be used outside the nuclear assembly systems. (67-1)

        10. The total quantity of Be used in the nuclear weapons program. ( 67-1)

        11. The fact of use of B-10 for hardening in unspecified nuclear weapons. (67-1)

        12. The mere fact that delta phase Pu has been or is used in weapons. (67-1)

        13. The fact that reactor grade plutonium can be used to make nuclear weapons. (67-9)

        14. The mere fact that high irradiation level reactor-grade plutonium can be used to make nuclear weapons. (67-10)

        15. The mere fact that Be is used in the nuclear assembly system of designated weapons. (72-11)

        16. The concept of storing hydrogen isotopes in solid or liquid compounds in undesignated weapons. (88-4)

        17. Fact of use of boron carbide in undesignated weapons. (91-1)

        18. Fact that the thermal stability of pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) in an undesignated weapon is improved by baking or by adding tripentaery thritol octanitrate, polysaccharide, or other specific additions. (92-2)

        19. Fissile shell information: The fact of use of thin spherical shells of fissile materials in weapons, without elaboration. (93-2)

        20. Special nuclear materials masses: That about 6 kg plutonium is enough hypothetically to make one nuclear explosive device. (93-2)

        21. Hypothetically, a mass of 4 kilograms of plutonium or U233 is sufficient for one nuclear explosive device. (94-1)

            NOTE: The average masses of special nuclear materials in the U.S. nuclear weapons or special nuclear materials masses in any specific weapon type remain classified.

        22. The presence of and a maximum amount of non-SNM hazardous materials used in nuclear weapons or weapon components in the event of an accident or other emergency situations. In concert with this declassification, currently unclassified information pertaining to the amount of HE in nuclear weapon assembly systems likewise may be released in the event health, safety, or environmental concerns arise. (98-4)

        23. Estimates of special nuclear material masses in weapons which are obtained by indirect methods involving production rates. (98-10)

        24. Fact that all U.S. weapon pits that contain plutonium have at least 500 grams of plutonium, no elaboration. (99-4)

Seems obvious from this document that the DOD has made great strides in nuclear weapons development over the last sixty years. Specialized nukes really are the most likely cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center. I don't see how anyone who spends more than a couple of minutes reading this document can protest that nuclear devices would be too big, too loud or too radioactive, plainly they have learned how to control all of these factors.

[EdWardMD]

The most compelling and credible information concerning the likelihood of the existence of highly specialized "mini-nukes" can be found in this declassified DOE document.

Seems obvious from this document that the DOD has made great strides in nuclear weapons development over the last sixty years. Specialized nukes really are the most likely cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center. I don't see how anyone who spends more than a couple of minutes reading this document can protest that nuclear devices would be too big, too loud or too radioactive, plainly they have learned how to control all of these factors.

I had a few of these mentioned in my article, but thanks for the very impressive list.  Nuke explosions are significantly more quiet than TNT explosions of equal size - nuke reactions spend alot of their energy in complete silence.  BTW, I got a copy of it before it can be moved, etc.

Thanks again,

My Best to You and Yours,

Ed

[Dig]

I had a few of these mentioned in my article, but thanks for the very impressive list.  Nuke explosions are significantly more quiet than TNT explosions of equal size - nuke reactions spend alot of their energy in complete silence.  BTW, I got a copy of it before it can be moved, etc.

Thanks again,

My Best to You and Yours,

Ed

oh, your back. since you have some time...

riddle me this and see if you can give even semi-credible answers to the following questions:

Wouldn't a nuclear blast leave victims with some kind of symptoms of a nuclear blast?  Doesn't a nuclear warhead render a person somewhat injured in a distinct way?  How did the people running out from the building or trapped in the building escape the zionist nukes?  Are the zionist nukes also race based?  Were the zionist nukes only used on certain floors while other ordinances only contained more conventional technology?  Which company has the most experience in using micro-nukes on buildings (or did they decide that 9/11 would be a good "test")?


Also, we all know that the goal of disinfo is to create more questions surrounding the "truthers" hypothesis than the official story.  With this in mind, doesn't the jukes theory fall into the category of a goal for disinfo? Doesn't this represent motive?  I know you are a fine doctor and not a lawyer, so this may not be your area of expertise, but perhaps you can use your super powers of scientific reasoning to see if it fits.

And the "nukes are quiet" thing is awesome.  Shit my neighbor could have been hit by a nuke, and I would never even know.

[Dig]

The most compelling and credible information concerning the likelihood of the existence of highly specialized "mini-nukes" can be found in this declassified DOE document.

Seems obvious from this document that the DOD has made great strides in nuclear weapons development over the last sixty years. Specialized nukes really are the most likely cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center. I don't see how anyone who spends more than a couple of minutes reading this document can protest that nuclear devices would be too big, too loud or too radioactive, plainly they have learned how to control all of these factors.

most likely cause?

Do nukes leave steal beams perfectly cut in a diagonal shape like thermate charges? 

Do nukes leave no radiation either when placing them or after they react?

Do nukes only kill certain people in an area while leaving others (who were very close) completely unharmed?

Do nukes not set off a powerful flash when reaction odccurs?

Do nukes make a sound?

Are nukes so unprotected via over 100 agencies both domestically and internationally that they can be moved around without sending up red flags? (I think the exposed Dick Cheney Minot failed FF proved there are more eyes on nukes than thermate)

But that is right, these were not nukes, they were jukes.

[GoingEtheric]

But that is right, these were not nukes, they were jukes.

well that's just it, nukes can't do any of that, but 4th generation neutron jukes on the other hand sound like firecrackers, leave molten metal, and pulverize all things while leaving the ID card of any Arab untouched.

Get with the real, Sane, they used jukes.

[Dig]

Deserves repeating...

You know what they call jewish nukes?

jukes

[EdWardMD]

The "Traces of Tritium" Lie Is Obstruction of Justice by Accessories to Murder
This is not 'rocket science', just basic math, law and lies.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/465

1.  "Obstruction of Justice" - http://definitions.uslegal.com/o/obstruction-of-justice/ - "hiding evidence" is part of the classic textbook definition of Obstruction of Justice.  To "conceal" or lie about evidence of a crime makes one an accessory after the fact to that crime. http://www.sagepub.com/lippmanstudy/state/oh/Ch06_Ohio.pdf

2. Trace definition as it applies to quantity:
Occurring in extremely small amounts or in quantities less than a standard limit (In the case of tritium, this standard level would be 20 TUs - the high of quoted standard background levels.).  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trace

3. The stated values of tritium from the DOE report "Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center".  "A water sample from the WTC sewer, collected on 9/13/01, contained 0.164±0.074 (2σ) nCi/L (164 pCi/L +/- 74 pCi/L - takes 1,000 trillionths to = 1 billionth) of HTO. A split water sample, collected on 9/21/01 from the basement of WTC Building 6, contained 3.53±0.17 and 2.83±0.15 nCi/L ( 3,530.0 pCi/L +/- 170 pCi/L and 2,830 pCi/L +/- 150 pCi/L), respectively.  https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf   Pico to Nano converter - http://www.unitconversion.org/prefixes/picos-to-nanos-conversion.html Nano to Pico converter - http://www.unit-conversion.info/metric.html

4. 1 TU = 3.231 pCi/L (trillionths per liter) or 0.003231 nCi/L (billionths per liter) - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html - (My original TU calculations came out to 3.19 pCi/L, but I will gladly accept these referenced minimally higher values.  http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=1022 )

5. In 2001 normal background levels of Tritium are supposedly around 20 TUs (prior to nuclear testing in the 60's, normal background tritium water levels were 5 to 10 TUs - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html ).  However, groundwater studies show a significanlty less water concentration:
Groundwater age estimation using tritium only provides semi-quantitative, “ball park” values:
• <0.8 TU indicates submodern water (prior to 1950s)
• 0.8 to 4 TU indicates a mix of submodern and modern water
• 5 to 15 TU indicates modern water (<5 to 10 years)
• 15 to 30 TU indicates some bomb tritium
http://www.grac.org/agedatinggroundwater.pdf   But, instead of "5 to 15 TU" (which would make the increase in background levels even higher), I will use 20 TUs as the 2001 environmental level to give all possible credibility to the lie of "Traces".

6.  Let's calculate the proven referenced facts.  Tritium level confirmed in the DOE report of traces of tritium = 3,530 pCi/L (+/- 170 pCi/L, but we will use the mean of 3,530 pCi/L).
3,530 pCi/L (the referenced lab value) divided by the backgroud level of 20TUs (20 X 3.231 p (1 TU = 3.21 pCi/L)  = 64.62 pCi/L as the high normal background/standard level.  3,530 divided by 64.62 pCi/L = 54.63 TIMES THE NORMAL BACKGROUND LEVEL.  3,530 pCi/L divided by 3.231 pCi/L (1 TU) =  1,092.54 TUs

7.  This is my 'fave' because lies tend to eat their young.  Muon physicist Steven Jones calls 1,000 TUs "The graphs below show that hydrogen-bomb testing boosted tritium levels in rain by several orders of magnitude. (Ref.:
http://www.science.uottawa.ca/~eih/ch7/7tritium.htm ) - http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Yet, calls the EXACT SAME LEVELS quoted in nCi/L as  "Traces" and "These results are well below the levels of concern to human exposure…”.  http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Interesting isn't it.

8. Thomas M. Semkowa, Ronald S. Hafnerc, Pravin P. Parekha,
Gordon J. Wozniakd, Douglas K. Hainesa, Liaquat Husaina,
Robert L. Rabune. Philip G. Williams and Steven Jones have all called over 1,000 TUs of Tritium, "Traces".  Even at the height of nuclear bomb testing 98% - after thousands of Megatons of nuclear testing - of the rainwater tests were 2,000 TUs or less.
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

9.  Over one year ago, Steven Jones, Alex Jones, Fetzer, Wood, most of the "BYU crew", most of the so called "911 Truth" groups/sites and indeed the public at large have been notified by me of the falseness of the "Traces" lie, but instead of promoting the truth and addressing it, have simply run from it and seem to be doing all in their power to suppress it.  http://www.rense.com/general80/prov.htm

10.  It is also important to note that the tritium present was diluted by at least some portion of 1 million liters of water accounting for BILLIONS of TUs.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/136

Thermate, C4, Micro Nukes Prove 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job.
http://www.rense.com/general80/dprah.htm

The above are my opinion based on the proven referenced facts.

Ed Ward, MD

Jeff Rense goes on with his bad self.  The only real truther I've been able to find that has consistently tried to allow this information seen.  http://www.rense.com/general85/911.htm  Glad I came here, couldn't have written this without the Prison Planet Forum plan.

DrEd

[EdWardMD]

The 9/11 WTC  "Traces of Tritium" Lie Is Obstruction of Justice by Accessories to Murder
This is not 'rocket science', just basic math, law and lies.
http://www.rense.com/general85/911.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/465
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=91684.0

1.  "Obstruction of Justice" - http://definitions.uslegal.com/o/obstruction-of-justice/ - "hiding evidence" is part of the classic textbook definition of Obstruction of Justice.  To "conceal" or lie about evidence of a crime makes one an accessory after the fact to that crime. http://www.sagepub.com/lippmanstudy/state/oh/Ch06_Ohio.pdf

2. Trace definition as it applies to quantity:
Occurring in extremely small amounts or in quantities less than a standard limit (In the case of tritium, this standard level would be 20 TUs - the high of quoted standard background levels.).  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trace

3. The stated values of tritium from the DOE report "Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center".  "A water sample from the WTC sewer, collected on 9/13/01, contained 0.164±0.074 (2σ) nCi/L (164 pCi/L +/- 74 pCi/L - takes 1,000 trillionths to = 1 billionth) of HTO. A split water sample, collected on 9/21/01 from the basement of WTC Building 6, contained 3.53±0.17 and 2.83±0.15 nCi/L ( 3,530.0 pCi/L +/- 170 pCi/L and 2,830 pCi/L +/- 150 pCi/L), respectively.  https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf   Pico to Nano converter - http://www.unitconversion.org/prefixes/picos-to-nanos-conversion.html Nano to Pico converter - http://www.unit-conversion.info/metric.html

4. 1 TU = 3.231 pCi/L (trillionths per liter) or 0.003231 nCi/L (billionths per liter) - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html - (My original TU calculations came out to 3.19 pCi/L, but I will gladly accept these referenced minimally higher values.  http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=1022 )

5. In 2001 normal background levels of Tritium are supposedly around 20 TUs (prior to nuclear testing in the 60's, normal background tritium water levels were 5 to 10 TUs - http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q2282.html ).  However, groundwater studies show a significanlty less water concentration:
Groundwater age estimation using tritium only provides semi-quantitative, “ball park” values:
• <0.8 TU indicates submodern water (prior to 1950s)
• 0.8 to 4 TU indicates a mix of submodern and modern water
• 5 to 15 TU indicates modern water (<5 to 10 years)
• 15 to 30 TU indicates some bomb tritium
http://www.grac.org/agedatinggroundwater.pdf   But, instead of "5 to 15 TU" (which would make the increase in background levels even higher), I will use 20 TUs as the 2001 environmental level to give all possible credibility to the lie of "Traces".

6.  Let's calculate the proven referenced facts.  Tritium level confirmed in the DOE report of traces of tritium = 3,530 pCi/L (+/- 170 pCi/L, but we will use the mean of 3,530 pCi/L).
3,530 pCi/L (the referenced lab value) divided by the backgroud level of 20TUs (20 X 3.231 p (1 TU = 3.21 pCi/L)  = 64.62 pCi/L as the high normal background/standard level.  3,530 divided by 64.62 pCi/L = 54.63 TIMES THE NORMAL BACKGROUND LEVEL.  3,530 pCi/L divided by 3.231 pCi/L (1 TU) =  1,092.54 TUs

7.  This is my 'fave' because lies tend to eat their young.  Muon physicist Steven Jones calls 1,000 TUs "The graphs below show that hydrogen-bomb testing boosted tritium levels in rain by several orders of magnitude. (Ref.:
http://www.science.uottawa.ca/~eih/ch7/7tritium.htm ) - http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Yet, calls the EXACT SAME LEVELS quoted in nCi/L as  "Traces" and "These results are well below the levels of concern to human exposure…”.  http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf  Interesting isn't it.

8. Thomas M. Semkowa, Ronald S. Hafnerc, Pravin P. Parekha, Gordon J. Wozniakd, Douglas K. Hainesa, Liaquat Husaina, Robert L. Rabune. Philip G. Williams and Steven Jones have all called over 1,000 TUs of Tritium, "Traces".  Even at the height of nuclear bomb testing  - after thousands of Megatons of nuclear testing - 98% of the rainwater tests were 2,000 TUs or less.
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

9.  Over one year ago, Steven Jones, Alex Jones, Fetzer, Wood, most of the "BYU crew", most of the so called "911 Truth" groups/sites and indeed the public at large have been notified by me of the falseness of the "Traces" lie, but instead of promoting the truth and addressing it, have simply run from it and seem to be doing all in their power to suppress it.  http://www.rense.com/general80/prov.htm

10.  It is also important to note that the tritium present was diluted by at least some portion of 1 million liters of water accounting for BILLIONS of TUs.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/136

Thermate, C4, Micro Nukes Prove 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job.
http://www.rense.com/general80/dprah.htm

The above are my opinion based on the proven referenced facts.  http://www.rense.com/general85/911.htm

Ed Ward, MD

[vCFy7W3SFb]

can someone just give me a heads up on what the original post is on about ? what the hell ever happened to brevity .

[TheGoodFight1984]

Mr. Ward - can I respectfully ask that you keep any nuke stuff in this thread only - thanks.

Any new threads will be; A) considered spamming, B) merged with this one, again, then C) locked..

[EdWardMD]

Mr. Ward - can I respectfully ask that you keep any nuke stuff in this thread only - thanks.

Any new threads will be; A) considered spamming, B) merged with this one, again, then C) locked..

So, I'm not allowed to post my information/articles under their title and under my name?  Interesting.
WTC 911 Traces of Tritium Lie:
http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/
http://www.rense.com/general85/911.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/465

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=91684.0  - Not there anymore, moved to thread by another person.

Cheers,

DrEd

[so_Z]

So, I'm not allowed to post my information/articles under their title and under my name?  Interesting.
WTC 911 Traces of Tritium Lie:
http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/
http://www.rense.com/general85/911.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/465

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=91684.0  - Not there anymore, moved to thread by another person.

Cheers,

DrEd

My, they certainly jumped on this one quickly. Funny how any mention of exotic weaponry of any type (except for "superthermite" of course) is met with instant opposition, anger and ridicule. Well, no use arguing with closed minds...I wonder if any of them spent as much as a millisecond reading the DOE document. I doubt it.

[EdWardMD]

My, they certainly jumped on this one quickly. Funny how any mention of exotic weaponry of any type (except for "superthermite" of course) is met with instant opposition, anger and ridicule. Well, no use arguing with closed minds...I wonder if any of them spent as much as a millisecond reading the DOE document. I doubt it.

So the woodhead stuff is filed under other posts too?  Still 'fighting' in the BYU crew?  Funny how that self destructed so suddenly over no planes/microwaves.  Interesting.  

Yeah, this one got through to the search engines - 9/11/01 Attacks Were An Inside/Outside Job  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=90400.0 - not there anymore moved to a thread by another person.

My Best to You and Yours,

Ed

9/11/01 Attacks Were An Inside/Outside Job

Done with the BS.  No facts countering my referenced proven facts - not interested.  I've got what I need for my article.  Gotta go shopping at the Rense store.  Will be interesting as usual.  If not, I can get it in the engines.  Hmm, why haven't I been sued - Joneses, 911 truth sites deny, misreprent, and ignore no more - They all stand behind 55 times normal = traces.  If you get one of anything everyday, then one day you get 55 IT CAN NOT BE CALLED TRACES IN ANY REALITY AND CERTAINLY NO SCIENTIFIC CALCULATION EVALUATION.   TO DO SO IS A BLATANT LIE BY LYING TREASONOUS TRAITORS HIDING THE FACTS OF MURDER.  Then we can deal with craters, hiroshima effects, wilting spires, 2 billion pounds of instant dust, etc, et al.  THEN AFTER THAT AND EVERYONE IS AGREED IT'S CORRECT AND NOT BS OR THE FACTS ARE PROVEN WRONG BY FACTS, I'LL GLADLY ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS.  Jones et al is going to have to sue, prove me wrong - and if he can prove 55 times THE NORMAL AMOUNT = TRACES.  I'll gladly retract my statement as incorrect -, or be known as lying treasonous traitors and accessories after the fact to murder by lying about evidence. 55 times NORMAL CAN NEVER BE TRACES OF ANYTHING LET ALONE TRITIUM.   Until then Jones, et al are lying treasonous traitors.

DrEd

[Dig]

Jeff Rense goes on with his bad self.  The only real truther I've been able to find that has consistently tried to allow this information seen.  http://www.rense.com/general85/911.htm  Glad I came here, couldn't have written this without the Prison Planet Forum plan.

DrEd

"Obstruction of Justice by Accessories to Murder"

Another way to spot a disinfo artist. The drama queen delusions of victimization and false accusations against anyone that does not promote the lies. "Accessories to murder" - wow, just wow.

These disinfo artists remind me of the peadophilia psychiatrists pushing the false memory syndrome crap to discredit victimized children.  I suppose all of these disinfo attacks come from very similar heritage (CoIntelPro and such).  So I guess I should not be surprised that the tactics are the same.

Dr. Ed, could you kindly either answer the rather simple questions or stop spamming this forum?  We sould really appreciate it, just answer the very simple questions if you would like anyone to even minutely fathom the remote possibility that you are adding and not subtracting from exposing the criminals of 9/11.

[Dig]

My, they certainly jumped on this one quickly. Funny how any mention of exotic weaponry of any type (except for "superthermite" of course) is met with instant opposition, anger and ridicule. Well, no use arguing with closed minds...I wonder if any of them spent as much as a millisecond reading the DOE document. I doubt it.

yes, we take the events of 9/11 very seriously and do not let utter absurdities go unexposed.  thanks for pointing that out.

[Dig]

can someone just give me a heads up on what the original post is on about ? what the hell ever happened to brevity .

4th genetion super duper zionist mininukes that make no sound, make no flash, have no radiation after 24 hours, and cannot be detected.

[Dig]

So, I'm not allowed to post my information/articles under their title and under my name?  Interesting.
WTC 911 Traces of Tritium Lie:
http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/
http://www.rense.com/general85/911.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/465

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=91684.0  - Not there anymore, moved to thread by another person.

Cheers,

DrEd

no, you are not allowed to spam this forum.

please answer the simplest of questions concerning the jukes or stop spamming, or both.

[Dig]

So the woodhead stuff is filed under other posts too?  Still 'fighting' in the BYU crew?  Funny how that self destructed so suddenly over no planes/microwaves.  Interesting.  

Yeah, this one got through to the search engines - 9/11/01 Attacks Were An Inside/Outside Job  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=90400.0 - not there anymore moved to a thread by another person.

My Best to You and Yours,

Ed

9/11/01 Attacks Were An Inside/Outside Job

Done with the BS.  No facts countering my referenced proven facts - not interested.  I've got what I need for my article.  Gotta go shopping at the Rense store.  Will be interesting as usual.  If not, I can get it in the engines.  Hmm, why haven't I been sued - Joneses, 911 truth sites deny, misreprent, and ignore no more - They all stand behind 55 times normal = traces.  If you get one of anything everyday, then one day you get 55 IT CAN NOT BE CALLED TRACES IN ANY REALITY AND CERTAINLY NO SCIENTIFIC CALCULATION EVALUATION.   TO DO SO IS A BLATANT LIE BY LYING TREASONOUS TRAITORS HIDING THE FACTS OF MURDER.  Then we can deal with craters, hiroshima effects, wilting spires, 2 billion pounds of instant dust, etc, et al.  THEN AFTER THAT AND EVERYONE IS AGREED IT'S CORRECT AND NOT BS OR THE FACTS ARE PROVEN WRONG BY FACTS, I'LL GLADLY ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS.  Jones et al is going to have to sue, prove me wrong - and if he can prove 55 times THE NORMAL AMOUNT = TRACES.  I'll gladly retract my statement as incorrect -, or be known as lying treasonous traitors and accessories after the fact to murder by lying about evidence. 55 times NORMAL CAN NEVER BE TRACES OF ANYTHING LET ALONE TRITIUM.   Until then Jones, et al are lying treasonous traitors.

DrEd

multiple members have asked you simple questions.  But, you do not have time to answer them because you are so busy.  Instead you spend all your time spamming and flaming.  How is it that you are NOT a disinfo artist?

[so_Z]

yes, we take the events of 9/11 very seriously and do not let utter absurdities go unexposed.  thanks for pointing that out.

I can't believe that Alex would be very happy to see you slapping Dr. Ward around. Bad cop.

[Dig]

I can't believe that Alex would be very happy to see you slapping Dr. Ward around. Bad cop.

what? slapping around? what are you talking about?  I am asking the honourable, esteemed, good Dr. Edwardo some simple questions about the jukes.

[Dig]

Here are the questions again:

How come over 200 witnesses heard bombs in the buildings?

How come the witnesses heard a popcorn of explosions, "pop, pop, pop, pop, pop" for each floor exploding out?

How come there were no large flashes?

How come there were no nuke casualties?

Why would there not be an EMP if nukes were used?

Wouldn't a nuclear blast leave victims with some kind of symptoms of a nuclear blast? 

Doesn't a nuclear warhead render a person somewhat injured in a distinct way? 

How did the people running out from the building or trapped in the building escape the nukes?   

Were the nukes only used on certain floors while other ordinances only contained more conventional technology?

How did the nukes leave steel beams completely intact with diagonal slices in them looking like shape charges?

Why was thermite found at the site?

Why was their pools of molten steel under all three exploded buildings?

Where alse have these nukes been used?  Bali? 7/7? Madrid?

Which company has the most experience in using micro-nukes on buildings (or did they decide that 9/11 would be a good "test")?

Also, we all know that the goal of disinfo is to create more questions surrounding the "truthers" hypothesis than the official story.  With this in mind, doesn't the nukes theory fall into the category of a goal for disinfo? Doesn't this represent motive? 

I know you are a fine doctor and not a lawyer, so this may not be your area of expertise, but perhaps you can use your super powers of scientific reasoning to see if it fits.

And the "nukes are quiet" thing is awesome.  Does that mean my neighbor could have been hit by a nuke, and I would never even know?

Oh man, there must be another 5,000 questions about this.



As stated earlier: Maybe that is the point of approved disinfo, to create more questions about the theorists than about the gov's official story.

[Unintelligable Name]

Until then Jones, et al are lying treasonous traitors.

DrEd

If by Jones you mean Alex Jones

Let me be the first to say:

F**k you, Asshole.

[so_Z]

If I may....

Here are the questions again:

How come over 200 witnesses heard bombs in the buildings?

Explosions varying in volume in character were witnessed and recorded. The Eyewitness video records large explosions on the lower levels. And large explosions were witnessed by the late Barry Jennings. It seems possible to me that small nukes were used to destroy the core structure of the buildings and some type of CD was used to bring down the outer and perimeter structure.

How come the witnesses heard a popcorn of explosions, "pop, pop, pop, pop, pop" for each floor exploding out?

The eyewitness accounts from the NYT are unequivocal. They heard pops and the witnesses freqently mentions three large explosions.

How come there were no large flashes?

They may have devices with a limited blast radius which would have kept the explosions out of sight.

How come there were no nuke casualties?

There are accounts of people vaporizing as well as the bone slivers found years later on top of the Banker's Trust building. And there were people who were burned alive in their own skin in much the same way that Hiroshima victims were.

Why would there not be an EMP if nukes were used?

I believe that there is evidence of EMP.

Wouldn't a nuclear blast leave victims with some kind of symptoms of a nuclear blast?

The high incidence of cancer is an indication of exposure to radioactivity.

Doesn't a nuclear warhead render a person somewhat injured in a distinct way?

Individuals were seen with flesh hanging from their bones.

How did the people running out from the building or trapped in the building escape the nukes?

 

Many of them didn't.

Were the nukes only used on certain floors while other ordinances only contained more conventional technology?

As I mentioned above, I think that nukes may have been used to destroy the core columns. Consider the way that the radio antenna on WTC1 sinks faster than the rest of the building at the onset of collapse.

How did the nukes leave steel beams completely intact with diagonal slices in them looking like shape charges?

I think that the diagonal cuts may really have been the work of the cleanup crew.

Why was thermite found at the site?

This issue has been much-disputed. But it is possible that thermite was used in concert with nukes.

Why was their pools of molten steel under all three exploded buildings?

The molten metal issue has been much-disputed but based on the number of eyewitness accounts I think that it is true. Nano-thermite might have caused or the high temperatures generated by a nuclear device.

Where alse have these nukes been used?  Bali? 7/7? Madrid?

Bali seems like a possibility, Madrid, not.

Which company has the most experience in using micro-nukes on buildings (or did they decide that 9/11 would be a good "test")?

I would expect that secret testing of advanced demolition/weapons device may have been going on for years. Computer modeling based on the blueprints of the the towers (which have yet to turn up) would have provided the information for this.

Also, we all know that the goal of disinfo is to create more questions surrounding the "truthers" hypothesis than the official story.  With this in mind, doesn't the nukes theory fall into the category of a goal for disinfo? Doesn't this represent motive?

I think that it is unfair to characterize advocates for theories involving exotic weaponry as disinformation artists. These are just ideas that have fallen outside the mainstream. I think it is more productive to keep an open mind and leave all possibilities open until all the facts are in.

I know you are a fine doctor and not a lawyer, so this may not be your area of expertise, but perhaps you can use your super powers of scientific reasoning to see if it fits.

?

And the "nukes are quiet" thing is awesome.  Does that mean my neighbor could have been hit by a nuke, and I would never even know?

Don't be silly.

Oh man, there must be another 5,000 questions about this.

There probably are many more questions about this, why not keep an open mind and try to answer them?

As stated earlier: Maybe that is the point of approved disinfo, to create more questions about the theorists than about the gov's official story.

You might want to keep this story in mind when considering the value of the different theories on 911:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant


The story of the blind men and an elephant originated from India.

In various versions of the tale, a group of blind men (or men in the dark) touch an elephant to learn what it is like. Each one touches a different part, but only one part, such as the side or the tusk. They then compare notes on what they felt, and learn they are in complete disagreement. The story is used to indicate that reality may be viewed differently depending upon one's perspective, suggesting that what seems an absolute truth may be relative due to the deceptive nature of half-truths.

[Dig]

^^ Is that some type of joke?  Those are the scientific answers by a doctor who is an expert on nuclear technology, fission, and neutron reactions?

"They may have devices with a limited blast radius which would have kept the explosions out of sight."

"I believe that there is evidence of EMP."

"The high incidence of cancer is an indication of exposure to radioactivity."

"I think that the diagonal cuts may really have been the work of the cleanup crew."

You really going to go to the victims families, NIST, the media, and congress with those answers?

Have you completely lost your mind?

[so_Z]

I think that it would be useful for you to spend some time reading the DOE document that I posted earlier. Then you need to step aside from your preconceptions and consider other causes such as highly specialized mini-nukes. Then, should you have occaission to go before Congress you'll have something more to share with them than paranoid rants about "disinformation agents".

[Dig]

I think that it would be useful for you to spend some time reading the DOE document that I posted earlier. Then you need to step aside from your preconceptions and consider other causes such as highly specialized mini-nukes. Then, should you have occaission to go before Congress you'll have something more to share with them than paranoid rants about "disinformation agents".

Well paranoia usually involves something that is highly unlikely. Considering the plethora of evidence concerning disinfo agents and the one line resonses like "there may be..." and "I think so..." to basic questions about these 4th generation microjukes...the one who is paranoid could be you.

[TheGoodFight1984]

this thread is really beginning to piss me off

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this thread is really beginning to piss me off

yeah, but it is our responsibility to expose this nonsense.  I mean usually it goes on boards without much opposition ("tell a lie big enough and people will believe it" -Hitler).  People either do not want to bother or are hypnotized with some seemingly intriging information.  We have a mission to confront these assumptions with pervasive and exploratory discussion and questioning.  If it gets past the scrutiny of people who have been researching this stuff for a while (and who have an obvious commitment to truth), then fine.  But this microjukes stuff is absolute nonsense, and thanks to the relentless members asking the tough question, it seems to be beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[TheGoodFight1984]

yeah, but it is our responsibility to expose this nonsense.  I mean usually it goes on boards without much opposition ("tell a lie big enough and people will believe it" -Hitler).  People either do not want to bother or are hypnotized with some seemingly intriging information.  We have a mission to confront these assumptions with pervasive and exploratory discussion and questioning.  If it gets past the scrutiny of people who have been researching this stuff for a while (and who have an obvious commitment to truth), then fine.  But this microjukes stuff is absolute nonsense, and thanks to the relentless members asking the tough question, it seems to be beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Yeah I'm with you on that, it does need discussing for whatever ends may come of it and as we know, the truth stands up to scrutiny, just all of a sudden I'm a nazi moderator because I respectfully ask that all this stuff be kept in one thread.??

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If it comes out that the minijukes theory is credible, then it'll get moved to the WTC1&2 section, but until then, it is a case study on a controversial subject so here it will stay.

Folks can take offence all they like, can't please everyone. I'm not gonna assist in contributing to more sidelining of the 9/11 truth movement, sorry.