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« Reply #80 on: March 04, 2009, 08:00:41 PM »

You have got to be kidding me..... blah, blah, blah  

Meanwhile we still have the referenced proven facts....

http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/05/18/myspace-suicide-instigator-charged-under-federal-law-for-teen%E2%80%99s-death/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act

6 acres of land greater than 1500 degrees, 2 Billion pounds of building turned into instant dust, hiroshima effect cancer spectrum present, tritium levels than are 55 x normal AFTER 4 million liters DILUTION, massive craters 250 wide and 35 feet deep, and 120 feet wide and 45 feet deep, impossible 'chlorine fueled, anaerobic' "fires", wilting spires, etc, et al,

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« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2009, 08:04:18 PM »

sorry, it reallly annoys me  Grin

I mean... they were laced with bombs, thermite and thermate right? simple nuff said and God knows how many chemicals were released hence all the respirtory problems

*facdesk*

Got any referenced proven facts for any of that Bogus Science BS?

Meanwhile,

6 acres of land greater than 1500 degrees, 2 Billion pounds of building turned into instant dust, hiroshima effect cancer spectrum present, tritium levels than are 55 x normal AFTER 4 million liters DILUTION, massive craters 250 wide and 35 feet deep, and 120 feet wide and 45 feet deep, impossible 'chlorine fueled, anaerobic' "fires", wilting spires after standing up to at least 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them, etc, et al,

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« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2009, 08:06:38 PM »

i want to throw out co intel so bad
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« Reply #83 on: March 04, 2009, 08:07:44 PM »

i want to throw out co intel so bad

Go ahead.... Do it.... Yes...

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« Reply #84 on: March 04, 2009, 08:09:32 PM »

i want to throw out co intel so bad

It's simple, PROVE THE REFERENCED PROVEN FACTS WRONG AND I'LL GLADLY RETRACT THEM.  Until then, it seems you are stuck with them and me.  It's only been a couple years and no one has been able to scientifically rebutt them.

6 acres of land greater than 1500 degrees, 2 Billion pounds of building turned into instant dust, hiroshima effect cancer spectrum present, tritium levels than are 55 x normal AFTER 4 million liters DILUTION, massive craters 250 wide and 35 feet deep, and 120 feet wide and 45 feet deep, impossible 'chlorine fueled, anaerobic' "fires", wilting spires, etc, et al,

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« Reply #85 on: March 04, 2009, 08:09:45 PM »

Go ahead.... Do it.... Yes...

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« Reply #86 on: March 04, 2009, 08:12:35 PM »

The collapse looked exactly like a traditional demolition using normal ~7500m/s VOD explosives.

Not much of a reason to say there was a nuke in the building other than it takes a very long time to wire explosives into the towers. However according to several people the explosives were placed in the building while it was being built. You can reference that for yourself -- but apparently it is a fairly common practice.

/Shrug

Go walk around the WTC with a geiger counter. Tell me what you find.
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« Reply #87 on: March 04, 2009, 08:16:13 PM »

The collapse looked exactly like a traditional demolition using normal ~7500m/s VOD explosives.

Not much of a reason to say there was a nuke in the building other than it takes a very long time to wire explosives into the towers. However according to several people the explosives were placed in the building while it was being built. You can reference that for yourself -- but apparently it is a fairly common practice.

/Shrug

Go walk around the WTC with a geiger counter. Tell me what you find.


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« Reply #88 on: March 04, 2009, 08:20:47 PM »

The collapse looked exactly like a traditional demolition using normal ~7500m/s VOD explosives.

Not much of a reason... blah, blah, blah

/Shrug

Go walk around the WTC with a geiger counter. Tell me what you find.

Yep, outside of these referenced proven facts...
6 acres of land greater than 1500 degrees, 2 Billion pounds of building turned into instant dust, hiroshima effect cancer spectrum present, tritium levels than are 55 x normal AFTER 4 million liters DILUTION, massive craters 250 wide and 35 feet deep, and 120 feet wide and 45 feet deep, impossible 'chlorine fueled, anaerobic' "fires", wilting spires, etc, et al,

And many more.

Seeing as how everything in the bathtub, even the dirt was removed from the bathtub, in order to walk around the WTC, I'd have to go to 'Fresh Kills' site where it was transported.  Oh, that's right, can't go there because of radioactivity.

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« Reply #89 on: March 04, 2009, 08:29:48 PM »


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So you agree with Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory over the Tritium?

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
(University of California, University of California)
Year 2002 Paper LBNL-50782
Elevated tritium levels at the World Trade Center
http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1678&context=lbnl

Several tritium radioluminescent (RL) devices were investigated as possible sources of
the traces of tritium at ground zero. It was determined that [the]Boeing 767-222 aircraft
operated by the United Airlines that hit WTC Tower 2 as well as [the]Boeing 767-223ER
operated by the American Airlines, that hit WTC Tower 1, had a combined 34{.3} Ci of tritium
at the time of impact, contained in emergency signs. WTC hosted several law-enforcement
agencies such as ATF, CIA, US Secret Service and US Customs. The ATF office had two
weapon vaults in WTC Building 6. Also 63 Police Officers, possibly carrying handguns, died in
the attack. The weaponry containing tritium sights was therefore a likely and significant source
of tritium. It is possible that some of the 2824 victims carried tritium watches, however this source appears to be less significant than the other two.

The fate of tritium in the attack depended on its chemistry. Any tritium present in the
vicinity of [the]jet-fuel explosion or fire would convert to HTO. The molecular tritium is also
known to quickly exchange with water adsorbed on surfaces at ambient temperatures. Therefore,
the end product of reacted tritium was HTO. A part of it would disperse into the atmosphere and
a part would remain on site. The dynamic aspect of HTO removal was investigated taking into
consideration water flow at ground zero. Most of ground zero is encircled by the Slurry Wall, 70
ft deep underground, called [the] Bathtub. Approximately three million gallons of water were
hosed on site in the fire-fighting efforts, and 1 million gallons fell as rainwater, between 9/11 and
9/21 (the day of the reported measurement). The combined water percolated through the debris
down to the bottom of the Bathtub dissolving and removing HTO with it. Th[is] water met and
combine[d] with the estimated 26 million gallons of water that leaked from the Hudson River, as
well as broken mains, during the same period of 10 days after the attack. The combined 30
million gallons of water
{were} collect[ed] in the PATH train tunnel and [were] continuously
{being} pumped out to prevent flooding.

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« Reply #90 on: March 04, 2009, 08:31:13 PM »

So you agree with Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory over the Tritium?

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
(University of California, University of California)
Year 2002 Paper LBNL-50782
Elevated tritium levels at the World Trade Center
http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1678&context=lbnl

Several tritium radioluminescent (RL) devices were investigated as possible sources of
the traces of tritium at ground zero. It was determined that [the]Boeing 767-222 aircraft
operated by the United Airlines that hit WTC Tower 2 as well as [the]Boeing 767-223ER
operated by the American Airlines, that hit WTC Tower 1, had a combined 34{.3} Ci of tritium
at the time of impact, contained in emergency signs. WTC hosted several law-enforcement
agencies such as ATF, CIA, US Secret Service and US Customs. The ATF office had two
weapon vaults in WTC Building 6. Also 63 Police Officers, possibly carrying handguns, died in
the attack. The weaponry containing tritium sights was therefore a likely and significant source
of tritium. It is possible that some of the 2824 victims carried tritium watches, however this source appears to be less significant than the other two.

The fate of tritium in the attack depended on its chemistry. Any tritium present in the
vicinity of [the]jet-fuel explosion or fire would convert to HTO. The molecular tritium is also
known to quickly exchange with water adsorbed on surfaces at ambient temperatures. Therefore,
the end product of reacted tritium was HTO. A part of it would disperse into the atmosphere and
a part would remain on site. The dynamic aspect of HTO removal was investigated taking into
consideration water flow at ground zero. Most of ground zero is encircled by the Slurry Wall, 70
ft deep underground, called [the] Bathtub. Approximately three million gallons of water were
hosed on site in the fire-fighting efforts, and 1 million gallons fell as rainwater, between 9/11 and
9/21 (the day of the reported measurement). The combined water percolated through the debris
down to the bottom of the Bathtub dissolving and removing HTO with it. Th[is] water met and
combine[d] with the estimated 26 million gallons of water that leaked from the Hudson River, as
well as broken mains, during the same period of 10 days after the attack. The combined 30
million gallons of water
{were} collect[ed] in the PATH train tunnel and [were] continuously
{being} pumped out to prevent flooding.



oh i was agreeing with chemical over bring a geiger counter and how bombs wrre planted
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« Reply #91 on: March 04, 2009, 08:35:14 PM »

Bit confused as to why a thread on nuclear devices in the WTC towers even exists frankly.

They were blown up -- doesn't matter to me with what type of bomb. It was a bomb(s).

Was it a big bomb? Or a tiny bomb? Was it black colored, or neon yellow colored? Did it smell like rotten eggs? Did Bush kiss it for good luck? Did it have the sequence green, red, yellow, blue on the wiring or was it purple, black, white, red?

Anyhow I'll escort myself out of this thread. Enjoy the speculation.
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« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2009, 08:41:16 PM »

"I'm" not saying anything about induced radiaition.  "I'm" repeating what experts in the field say.  Seems my 2 year old link has been taken down.  Here's a quickie for the neutron bomb, considerably less advanced than 3rd or 4th gen nukes.  Induced radiation from neutrons is the same regardless of the neutron source.

The neutron flux can induce significant amounts of short-lived secondary radioactivity in the environment in the high flux region near the burst point. The alloys used in steel armor can develop radioactivity that is dangerous for 24-48 hours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb

here's the link to Gsponer 4th gen nukes

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0510/0510071v1.pdf  - Gsponer - 4th generation nukes

"I'm" not saying there were 6 acres of land greater than 1500 degrees, 2 Billion pounds of building turned into instant dust, hiroshima effect cancer spectrum present, tritium levels than are 55 x normal AFTER 4 million liters DILUTION, massive craters 250 wide and 35 feet deep, and 120 feet wide and 45 feet deep, impossible 'chlorine fueled, anaerobic' "fires", wilting spires, etc, et al, "I'm" merely repeating what documented referenced proven evidence shows.

Cohen the father of the neutron nuke also has similar reports.

About 13 years.  I'm not really to interested in fetching information for you that is easily available on the net.  If you have some REFERENCED PROVEN FACTS THAT COUNTER ANY OF MY REFERENCED PROVEN FACTS, I'll be glad to work on it with you - I don't knowingly write Bogus Science BS - so if anyone HAS DOCUMENTED REFERENCED FACTS THAT COUNTER MINE...  Otherwise, there is a thing called google that can fetch facts for you.  Best of luck.

DrEd



That is too bad that you could not provide me with such "obvious" evidence that any 2 year old should already know.  I apologize for taking up so much of your valuable time.  Because obviously this is not that important a piece of information.  But it is interesting that the 4th generation micro-nuke (or zio-micro-nuke, depending on the disinformation artist propagating this horseshit) has been used in a plethora of false flag attacks across the world:

Zionist Nuclear Attack on Bali Officially “Buried” by Western Mediai - scroll down to brown update for details

Bali Micro Nuke - Lack of Radiation Confuses "Experts"
Bali Micro Nuke - Lack of Radiation Confuses "Experts"

The delivery of American and Israeli micro nukes is always by swimmer to maximize security.

It was precisely 11.30 p.m. on Saturday 12 October 2002, when someone somewhere pressed a button that sent a single coded radio-squirt to an underground aerial located in a monsoon drain outside the Sari Club in Bali. An unseen circuit closed and a primer fired, then one-millionth of a single second later, a terrible fireball formed under the street. Less than six inches in diameter and burning at a staggering 300,000 degrees centigrade, the fireball was a perfect shimmering sphere, made possible by 99.78% Plutonium 239 manufactured at the Dimona nuclear facility in the Negev Desert.

Five microseconds passed while this fission monster from hell expanded, then the already-cooling fireball tore its angry way out into the street above, vaporizing all victims standing within thirty feet while simultaneously spreading two tons of deadly microscopic roadbed shrapnel in a lethal arc across Kuta Beach. Every survivor standing in direct line-of-sight of its awesome ultraviolet emission received terrible flash burns, the like of which three eminent Australian burns surgeons would later claim on TV they “had never seen before”.

Less than ten-millionths of a second after the monster achieved critical mass, its searing thermal wave set fire to twenty-seven buildings in the immediate area, and spontaneously ignited automobiles parked two blocks away from ground zero. But as you will read later in this report, no ordinary Geiger counter from any nation could detect radiation from the weapon.

This atrocity was the “punishment” meted out to Australians and others opposed to the Judeo-Christian Crusade against Islam. Ordinary everyday people, Australians in particular, who had earlier been sensible enough and brave enough to speak out against their Prime Minister’s slavish obedience to Ariel Sharon and George W. Bush in their ruthless quest to loot and destroy the Middle East. But the fission monster from hell was also designed to send a very clear and unmistakable message to like-minded dissidents in Britain: “Jump on the crusade bandwagon quickly, or our Dimona thought-reform folk will pay you a visit.”

Political and paid “academic experts” were quickly thrust in front of television cameras to explain the inexplicable. How and why the bombing happened in the first place, and increasingly as harsh reality kicked in and facts became clearer, why dozens of full-size human victims had vanished completely without trace.

Every bomb expert in the world knows that conventional explosives lack the heat and velocity to “vanish” complete bodies in this manner, except perhaps when crushed into total oblivion by a million tons of masonry as happened at the World Trade Center. When the dust from the biggest IRA bomb ever detonated in Northern Ireland finally cleared, the victims were still in the local area. Many were disassembled into large bloody body parts, but they were still generally recognizable.

When a diminutive member of Hamas recently detonated thirty pounds of TNT strapped tightly around his own chest in Palestine, emergency services still had to remove large recognizable chunks of his dismembered body from the area. Believe me people, believe me, conventional explosive cannot “vanish” citizens without trace, and Bali simply did not have a million tons of masonry available to fall on their heads. Only a critical nuclear weapon has the heat needed for instant cremation, combined with the incredibly fast shock wave needed to completely remove the resulting cremated particles from the local area.

Next big problem for the politicians and “experts” was the large crater in the street outside the Sari Club. Five feet deep and twenty-two feet in diameter, the crater served as proof that the weapon was detonated underground rather than on the surface. The only way any explosive can cause a crater is if it is first dropped from an aircraft and penetrates sub-surface before exploding, or if it is physically positioned sub-surface in advance. The thousand-pound Omagh bomb detonated in Northern Ireland by the IRA during 1998 did not cause a crater, nor has any nuclear weapon ever detonated above-ground regardless of TNT equivalence yield.

Kuta Beach, Bali
22 x 5' Crater
Omagh, Northern Ireland
No Crater

Politicians and “experts” alike had less of a problem than they originally thought with the crater. The helpful media folk simply refrained from showing it on television or in the newspapers, and the brainwashed public soon forgot about the crater altogether. However, there were considerably more problems with the savage blast and horrific burns “never seen before” in Australia. Knowing that even the public would not believe these could have been caused by a large packet of runaway Chinese firecrackers; it was time to start dishing out some serious disinformation.

Less than 48 hours after the blast, media outlets claimed that investigators at the crime scene, “had found traces of C4”. This was a lie but nonetheless devastating news, because everyone with a television set and a Sylvester Stallone or Bruce Willis video knows how awesome C4 is [supposed to be]. Stallone sticks blocks of the stuff on every enemy installation in sight, and Willis uses it to knock down skyscrapers. In every case the resulting television blast is accompanied by a giant fireball designed to impress the hell out of you, to the point where C4 has become television’s “most powerful explosive on earth”.

Unfortunately C4 is no such thing, and it is probably time to put this magic bullet down once and for all, and along with it all the other media myths surrounding Bali. Composition 4 [C4] is pretty dull stuff. Only 1.2 times as powerful as TNT, this plastic explosive gained its reputation primarily because of its flexibility in use. You can shape it anyway you like, and stick it wherever you want including underwater with little personal risk. Composition 4 is a stable and boring compound made from 91% RDX and 9% non-explosive Polyisobutylene plasticiser.

Think about the formulation people, think very carefully. Could this possibly mean that 100% plain old everyday World War II RDX actually has more explosive power than the Stallone and Willis magic bullet? Sadly, yes it does. In fact about nine-percent more.

The media in Australia were reminded of C4’s shortfalls, and further advised the giant oily fireball that always accompanies its detonation on television is not real. The giant oily fireball is a special pyrotechnic effect designed specifically to satisfy the “armchair soldier” lurking inside many television viewers. Real C4 contains no incendiary materials at all, and has a brisance [velocity of detonation] of just over 26,300 feet per second, tending to extinguish fires rather than light them.

This caused the media to swiftly put their heads together with their paid “experts” to find an explosive device that the public could really believe in, short of a micro nuke of course. Less than 24 hours later the revised media fiction went to air as, “a minivan full of gas bottles, with explosives on top”. Evidently the aim was to force the public to believe the weapon was a FAE [Fuel Air Explosive] commonly known as the “Poor Man’s Atom Bomb”, which was successfully dropped by American aircraft on both Vietnam and Iraq.

A "perfect" Fuel Air Explosive [FAE] burst, one-hundred feet above ground level

Several telephone calls later, the media were forced to admit that a Fuel Air Weapon must be “burst” at least 100 feet above the target in order to create a stable ethylene oxide gas cloud suitable for ignition. They also learned that even air-launched FAEs cannot make craters because they do not penetrate the earth, and the suction force developed by the weapon when it grabs oxygen for combustion, is sufficient to drag a victim’s lungs out through his or her mouth. Horrific though the injuries were in Bali, there were none even remotely like this.

By now the media and their paid “experts” were getting quite angry, finally suggesting in Australia that the blast and horrific burns were caused by high explosive “laced with napalm”. The fact that napalm leaves dirty stinking residue and soot all over the place, and produces burns quite different from those on the victims appeared not to disturb them.
The napalm story failed to impress the public, and the media lead was taken over by ITN in London on 18 October, in the aloof haughty way that only a British television station with ‘real contacts’ can manage: “ITV News correspondent Julian Manyon, in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, has been told by a highly placed western source that there was no plastic explosive and the bombers used a home-made brew similar to that which the IRA has relied on in the past in Northern Ireland and Canary Wharf.

“The ingredients are readily available in Indonesia and experts suggest that they were almost certainly mixed together on the island of Bali itself.” Oh, really? The IRA used one thousand pounds of the stuff in the Omagh photo shown above, which killed nearly 30 people but made no crater, and failed dismally in its feeble efforts to create an instant fiery war zone.

The perception of most members of the public where a critical nuclear weapon is concerned, was shaped decades ago in the wake of the American bombing of Hiroshima in Japan. An atomic bomb with a Uranium 235 core, nicknamed “Little Boy”, was detonated overhead the city with a TNT equivalence of 15,000 tons. For nearly two generations thereafter, members of the public were ‘taught’ that this was the text book interpretation for use after any and all nuclear detonations, despite the fact that nothing could be further from the truth.

Little Boy was one of the ‘dirtiest’ fission weapons ever detonated in the atmosphere, with less than 1% of its critical mass undergoing true fission. Thus what remained after the explosion was a giant blizzard of lethal neutron, alpha, beta and gamma radiation. For practical [amateur] purposes we can forget the short-range neutron, alpha and beta radiation, which has trouble penetrating the human body.

Over time it was to be the gamma radiation that would inflict such terrible injuries on the survivors of Hiroshima, including necrosis and ulceration. It is this gamma radiation that a standard Geiger counter detects, warning users that they are entering a hazardous zone. The standard Geiger counter can also detect significant quantities of beta, though this is more difficult. In summary, every Geiger counter within miles of Hiroshima clicked furiously for weeks after Little Boy went critical, primarily because of the gamma radiation.
Time passed and by the late fifties these fission weapons were being “micronized” because they were needed as “core weapons” for hydrogen bombs. Incredible temperatures are required to start the fusion reaction in a hydrogen bomb, with the atom bomb the only device capable of providing them. So for a while at least, the text books accurately referred to the hydrogen bomb as a “fission-fusion” weapon, meaning the heat from the core fission weapon [atom bomb] started the fusion reaction in the larger weapon encasing it [the hydrogen bomb].

It was not long before the scientists realized that in creating the tiny “core weapon” for the hydrogen bomb, they had also created a relatively lightweight micro nuclear weapon that could be carried by a single soldier for various uses against high value targets, including hydroelectric power stations and bridges.

Less than two years later, the first of the SADM [Special Atomic Demolition Munition] series shown at the top of this page was pressed into operational service. The “standard” SADM that evolved would eventually have a core of Plutonium 239 encased in a thin shell of non-fissile Uranium 238 known as a “neutron reflector”.

Plutonium and Napalm flash burns - but can you tell which are which?

When the 10-ton TNT equivalence SADM went critical, it obviously created far less radiation than the huge and inappropriately named “Little Boy” at Hiroshima, but still produced dangerously high levels of residual radiation. Most of this came from SADM’s very “dirty” Uranium 238 reflector, which along with its Plutonium 239 core, exploded into millions of particles at the point of criticality. This same non-fissile Uranium 238 material still causes serious illnesses today, after being fired by American tanks and aircraft as sub-critical Depleted Uranium [DU] shells or missile warheads. Ask anyone in southern Iraq and Kosovo how sick this stuff can make you.

The years rolled by and top-secret projects were initiated in America and Israel to replace the old SADM with its overly heavy weight and excess radioactivity, culminating in the successful development and testing at Dimona during 1981 of the “new” micro nuclear device. Using advanced nuclear physics, the scientists found a way of detonating the new “suitcase” bomb without the use of a Uranium 238 reflector, and further refined the Plutonium 239 in its core to 99.78%. These measures resulted in a weapon considerably smaller and lighter than SADM, which also had another enormous advantage.

The new Dimona micro nuke was the very first critical weapon that could be used in “stealth” mode. Gone was the dirty Uranium 238 reflector, and up went the purity of the smaller Plutonium 239 core. You see, Plutonium emits only alpha radiation, which for all practical purposes is “invisible” to a standard Geiger counter. If you do not believe me then ask the American Environmental Protection Agency, whose staff will confirm this.

In direct contrast with its more deadly cousins beta and gamma, alpha can travel only a few feet and is incapable of penetrating human skin. If you can afford an incredibly expensive and highly specialized Muller tube or similar, you may be able to detect tiny amounts of alpha directly outside the Sari Club, though you will more than likely be defeated in this quest by the Bali environment.

Remember that this micro nuke was a tiny weapon in terms of critical mass, with its limited number of particles distributed over a very wide area. You will have to be within five feet to detect a single particle, and most may have already washed away. Bali lies in the Monsoon Belt with frequent heavy showers, and the Sari Club is located less than 200 yards away from the surf at Kuta Beach, which is where the monsoon drains in Kuta main street flow into the ocean. One week on from the blast, detection may already be too late.

Though the alpha particles cannot penetrate the skin, such radiation is extremely hazardous if inhaled or ingested, because Plutonium is the most toxic substance known to man. If you breathed in a mouthful immediately after the blast you would be dead in less than an hour, perhaps within minutes. If instead you breathed in a single microgram, you might last for as few months. Anything in-between is on a sliding scale.

The most dangerous time for burns victims as I understand it, is known as the “golden hour” immediately following the burn event. It is in this short critical time period that medical staff have the best chance of stabilizing the victim and hopefully accelerating his or her recovery. Nobody was helped medically this quickly in Bali because the resources simply did not exist. Thus those suffering excessive burns and/or shrapnel wounds alone, would certainly have perished during the waiting period.

The next most critical period is when being physically manhandled from the scene and eventually evacuated to hospital in another country. If you manage to survive this second critical period and are suffering only burns and shrapnel injuries, your chances of long-term survival are extremely high. An air-conditioned hospital with every facility available in a western country, is a far cry from lying without help in the bomb debris of Kuta Beach.

Despite this intensive care in a variety of different western countries, several of these victims have died quite suddenly and inexplicably under the latter favorable circumstances. Just how many in total we will probably never know, because governments in general have a common interest in preventing their citizens from ever finding out they were exposed to a critical nuclear weapon. It is not difficult to imagine the panic this news would induce in the general population, and even less difficult to envisage the torrent of legal actions against government from survivors and bereaved relatives alike.

The distinctive pattern of the “vanished” victims, and the later sudden inexplicable deaths, provides a match for those following the Nagasaki Plutonium blast in Japan. Of particular note is the total number of “vanished” citizens, for those who vanished were certainly not restricted to westerners. Earlier this week a single Balinese kampong [village] buried seven empty coffins, and this was only one of at least a dozen different kampongs that provide labor to the clubs and shops in Kuta Beach.

It was a moving ceremony barely covered by the western media, at which the headman of the village told an Indonesian journalist, “We know that we will never be able to find any parts of their physical bodies, but this ceremony will help their families to live in peace.” So a crowd of simple Balinese villagers know that their loved ones had been 100% vaporized, but the western public is deliberately left in the dark for political reasons.

On a more encouraging note, it must be emphasized firmly here that very few of those survivors burned in the blast will actually die from internal alpha inhalation or ingestion at this late stage. Common sense dictates that ninety-percent of those close enough to ground zero to inhale or ingest an appreciable quantity at or immediately after the point of criticality, are most probably already dead.

This is particularly good news for hordes of political and law-enforcement idiots, who could be seen wandering around the heavily contaminated Bali crime scene without even the basic precaution of paper face masks covering their noses and mouths. Paper face masks are not designed solely to prevent the inhalation or ingestion of alpha radiation. Paper masks should always be worn during the first week at any major crime scene when parts of decomposing bodies and associated vermin are present, especially in the tropics. Any deaths which later result from this criminal negligence, will be the direct responsibility of their supervisors.

Indonesian police investigators wear correct facemasks and gloves, while unprotected Australian and British "investigators" stand around inhaling and ingesting residual contamination at the crime scene

After this "Terrorist" attack on Bali, the Judeo-Christian road show predictably shifted up into high gear, with American newspapers reporting generically, “In the town of Solo, about 100 students from the school run by Islamic cleric Abu Bakar Bashir briefly blocked access to the Muhammadiyah Hospital where he is being treated for cardiac and breathing problems. Armed policemen stood by, but did not intervene" ..."Authorities accuse Bashir of being linked to al-Qaida and said that his right-hand man, known as Hambali, was behind many of the country's terrorist bombings. The two men are accused of being leaders of Jemaah Islamiyah, believed to be al-Qaida's main ally in Southeast Asia.

“Bashir was arrested Saturday for a series of church bombings across Indonesia on Christmas Eve 2000, in which 19 people died. He has previously denied involvement in those attacks as well as the Bali bombings — and insists the CIA invented Jemaah Islamiyah and al-Qaida as an excuse to persecute Muslims and foment religious violence”. Bashir is obviously correct in his claims, for no fictional member of “al-Qaida” could ever penetrate the massive security surrounding Israel's Dimona in order to steal a critical nuclear weapon.

Update 3 November 2002

As further horrifying details of its illegal armed attacks on Muslims in their own homes reach local media, the Australian Government has been desperately trying to deflect attention back towards the “Muslim Terrorists” allegedly responsible for the Bali bombing. On the home front, Australian lawyers have revealed that during the pre-dawn raids last week, armed goons from the Federal Police and Security Service ASIO forced unarmed women and children to lie face-down on the floor, handcuffed them, and in some cases conducted strictly illegal full-body strip searches of the defenseless women without their consent.

This last-named abuse is identical to the actions of the American 82nd Airborne in Afghanistan, who recently deliberately strip searched Muslim women in their own homes in order to dishonor their husbands. Further details of this obscene and illegal activity can be read by clicking on the “Australian Gestapo” link at the bottom of this page.
Were it not so serious, this latest attempt by Australian authorities to pin the blame for the Bali bomb on “Muslim Terrorists” would be laughable. Officials are now claiming that the staggering blast which vaporized dozens of victims at Kuta Beach, was caused by a bomb “made from between 50 kg and 150 kg of chlorate”, the only quasi-explosive conveniently stolen from an Indonesian warehouse in Java during September. This new claim is in stark contrast to information posted on the official Australian Government web site less than one week ago:

“Within 10-15 seconds of the first explosion at Paddy's Bar, a devastating explosion was detonated in front of the Sari Club … The explosion resulted in a tremendous release of energy in the form of gas, heat and light. This essentially caused a pressure wave, fragmentation and fire - all of which contributed to the devastation seen at the Sari Club. As a measure of the force of the blast, the sound from the explosion was heard up to 15km away.”

To claim that the Bali bomb was made from potassium chlorate [the variant stolen in Java] is pure idiocy, and the fact that such a claim was made at all, highlights increasingly desperately American and Israeli pressure on Australia to formally declare that “The Muslims did it”.

Yes, you can manufacture a crude weapon from 90% potassium chlorate and 10% paraffin, but it is an incredibly slow and entirely unpredictable low-explosive. Provided the weapon did not detonate prematurely [a real risk with this unstable compound], four hundreds pounds of potassium chlorate & paraffin slurry with a Power Gel initiator might make a mess of Kuta Beach high street, but it could manage little else.

At best, crude potassium chlorate & paraffin slurry has a pathetic velocity of detonation of 3,500 feet per second, compared to 12,000 fps for Ammonium Nitrate & Diesel, and 27,800 fps for RDX. Thus in simple terms, at any given distance from ground zero these different explosive compounds will exert ascending pressure in pounds per squuare inch on the target. Forget the impressive bang, which is simply the pressure wave from the weapon travelling at supersonic speed, and has no bearing on actual damage. The level of damage inflicted on the target is always directly proportional to the overpressure exerted in pounds per square inch, i.e. pressure over and above the standard atmospheric pressure of fifteen psi.

Absolute proof that this Australian myth is a structured lie, can be seen in these photographs of a reinforced concrete structure located more than fifty feet away from ground zero. Every fragment of hard concrete has been completely stripped away by overpressure, leaving only the ductile reinforcing rods or bars, known in the trade as “rebar”. The critical significance of this is best explained by General Benton K. Partin USAF (Ret), who had overall responsibility for all research, development, testing, analysis, requirements generation and acquisition management of weapons systems in the United States Air Force.

Concrete completely stripped from Reinforcing bar "rebar", 50+ feet from ground zero

In an official rebuttal to media and executive branch claims that the source of the awesome damage to the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma was a single truck bomb consisting of 4,800 pounds of ammonium nitrate & diesel low-explosive, General Partin wrote:

“The detonation wave pressure (1,000,000 to 1,500,000 pounds per square inch) from a high detonation velocity contact explosive sweeps into the reinforced concrete structure as a wave of compressive deformation. Since the pressure in the wave of deformation far exceeds the yield strength of the concrete (about 3,500 pounds per square inch) by a factor of approximately 300, the concrete is turned into granular sand and dust until the wave dissipates to below the yield strength of the concrete.

“This leaves a relatively smooth but granular surface, with protruding, bare reinforcement rods, a distinctive signature of damage by contact explosives. The effect of the contact explosive on the reinforcement rods themselves can only be seen under microscopic metallurgical examination. (The rods are inertially confined during the explosion and survive basically intact because of their much higher yield strength and plasticity.)”

Note here that General Partin is referring to explosives “in contact” with the reinforced concrete structure requiring between 1,000,000 and 1,500,000 pounds per square inch to strip the concrete away, leaving only the bare reinforcement rods. Think about this people, think about it. The stripped reinforcement rods in Bali were more than fifty feet away from the weapon, and thus not in contact at all.

Because blast through a fifty foot air gap is a very inefficient energy coupling mechanism against heavily reinforced concrete, four hundred pounds of the fastest chemical explosive so far touted by the Australian Government, RDX, would exert [but would not exceed] approximately ten pounds per square inch, fifty feet away from the point of criticality at ground zero. An equal weight of Potassium chlorate would be lucky to exert two pounds per square inch at the same range.

The problem here is obvious, and the only accurate conclusion about Kuta Beach is impossible for the Australian authorities to simply wish away with wild tales about potassium chlorate detergent all too conveniently "stolen from Java". To cause the actual damage photographed at the crime scene in Bali, we must have a weapon with a compound yield, and velocity of detonation fast enough to ensure one million pounds per square inch of retained pressure fifty feet away from ground zero. There is only one weapon in the world compact enough to perform this staggering trick: A micro nuke from Dimona in the Negev Desert. .

Update 10 November 2002

On the morning of 6th November, my claims about a micro nuclear weapon in Bali were published on the front page of a major newspaper in Java. Apparently the claims were enthusiastically embraced by Indonesians already deeply suspicious of Australia’s unseemly and entirely unnecessary involvement in the Kuta Beach investigation. To understand the level of outrage and mistrust, ask yourself how angry you would be if a bunch of uninvited Indonesian police turned up to "investigate" a crime in New York, London or Sydney.

Early the next morning, members of the Indonesian Government in Jakarta became involved and called urgently for further details about the nuclear device. And so it was that by 10 a.m. on 7th November, the ludicrous Australian-American myth about “Jemaah Islamiyah” and “al Qaeda” attacking Bali, was rapidly starting to unravel across Indonesia.
According to a well-placed government source in Jakarta, firm action was then taken to reverse the situation, and restore the Australian-American myth in the eyes of the public. Sometime around noon an Indonesian general connected to TNI, ordered that a man called Amrozi be ‘strongly’ encouraged to confess.

To quote the Jakarta government source, Amrozi “was hooked up to 220 volts, given a cup of Scopolamine, and thirty minutes later was ready to swear he was George Bush”. Our brave Australian and American investigators neatly sidestepped direct involvement in this torture, by lamely telling television viewers at home that they had “no need to interrogate the suspect personally”.

In reality Amrozi is a motorcycle mechanic from east Java, whose wife and neighbors can prove he never left his home island, but this awkward truth was of no concern to the general, nor to his western paymasters. By early morning on the 8th of November, the western media obediently started parroting claims that Amrozi was a “known associate of Jemaah Islamiyah”, with indirect links to “al Qaeda”.

By late afternoon the same day, al Jazeera television, the nice folk who brought you the blatantly forged video footage of “Osama Bin Laden” last year, issued a press release stating that, “al Qaeda has accepted full responsibility for the Bali bombing”. Wrong! The web site on which this bogus claim was made, is owned and discreetly operated by a 'blind' company in Qatar, the home base of al Jazeera.

It was perhaps on this date that we finally slipped seamlessly into a post-Orwellian media world, where those who control the present ignore the past, and don’t give a damn about the future. As if bewitched, journalists worldwide jumped on the Thought Police band wagon, telling us to believe that an imaginary terrorist organization had motivated a motorcycle mechanic in Java to kill nearly 300 people in Bali, using only a van full of Potassium chlorate detergent. As George Orwell foresaw in his famous novel “1984”, there seems to be little we can do at present about this blatant media disinformation:

“At present nothing is possible except to extend the area of sanity little by little. We cannot act collectively. We can only spread our knowledge outwards from individual to individual, generation after generation. In the face of the Thought Police there is no other way.”

No matter the level of direct and indirect media control, the vexing problem of a newly alert Indonesian Government had still not been completely resolved. What if a suspicious minister [or ministers] managed to slip the right scientific equipment into Bali, and detected residual traces of slow alpha radiation from the micro nuke at Kuta Beach?

Help was soon on the way to deal with this possible contingency. On the morning of Saturday 9th November, just three days after my claims were published in the Indonesian newspaper, Intelligence services in London used the British Home Office as a 'front', and issued a dire warning that “al Qaeda might be planning to attack the west with a dirty radiological weapon”.

For those not fully conversant with this dreadful technology, it was helpfully explained that a radiological weapon is a conventional explosive bomb with nuclear waste wrapped around it. When the bomb explodes it hurls radioactive material outwards, causing terrible injuries to the victims of the blast. Of course, the Home Office warning was swiftly “retracted’ six hours later by Minister of Home Affairs David Blunkett, who said it was a “clerical error”, but not before the bogus warning had been peddled to the public by every television network in the western world.

This is not the first time that British intelligence has used this technique to subtly deflect attention away from a real micro nuke. The same claim was peddled back in 1993 after micro nukes were used on the City of London, as indirect warnings for the City to fall in line behind New York. I recorded this earlier intelligence leak in a report first published in 1993, and posted on the Internet six years later.

“During early May 1993, ITN World News from London carried an interesting feature in which it was explained that due to thefts of highly-radioactive Uranium 235, terrorists would now be able to contaminate conventional bombs with 500 grams of Uranium, thereby forcing the police to stay away from the area for days. Exactly why experienced terrorists would risk detection & death by transporting deadly unshielded Uranium around in their pockets was not explained.

“There is no credible reason for keeping the police and other authorities away from a bombsite after the weapon has been detonated. However, the rumor could form the basis of a government defence in cases where American or British citizens located positive traces of radiation, near the World Trade Centre or in the City of London, for example.” The original 1993 report can be read here.

The British Home Office never makes “clerical errors” of this magnitude, especially on a Saturday when its civil servants are at home for the weekend, and the only people left in the Home Office building are duty spooks and cleaners. The bogus story was released specifically [and only] to cover any future discovery of radiation at Kuta Beach.

Now if an Indonesian minister manages to establish that traces of slow alpha radiation are still present in Bali, all the deranged General has to do is collect a few more “suspects”, hook them up to 220 volts, pour Scopolamine down their throats, and urge them to “confess” that the mythical “al Qaeda” provided nuclear waste to wrap around their homemade bomb constructed from potassium chlorate detergent.

Update 18 November 2002

Indonesian Parliament Claims Micro Nuke in Bali

Amrozi - Bali's Alleged Psychedelic Nuclear Bomber

On Monday 18 November, Indonesian Parliamentary Speaker Amien Rais said he questioned the validity of the police conclusion that "Amrozi" was the main perpetrator of the Bali bombings which claimed more than 187 lives. Rais was supported by Deputy House Speaker A.M. Fatwa, who stated, "`My conscience says that he is not a key actor. I don’t believe that Amrozi has the capability to make all kinds of the preparations for the bombings, like setting off a kind of micro nuclear bomb in Bali."

These pointed observations by two of the most powerful politicians in Indonesia, designed to counter deliberate Australian police & media disinformation about the bombing in Kuta Beach, were then recorded verbatim in the official Indonesian parliamentary transcripts. A wide range of media outlets in Asia and the Middle East reported Rais and Fatwa’s comments, which were predictably ignored in Australia and America.

It was late on Wednesday 15 November, just one day before the special Hindu cleansing ceremony of the Bali bombsite in Kuta Beach, that the local Indonesian police chief thoughtfully paraded "prime suspect" Amrozi in front of the assembled media pack. The fact that Amrozi was clearly disoriented, rambling, as high as a kite on drugs and separated from western journalists by a thick glass wall, was apparently not a problem for our sacred guardians of the truth.

Despite the obvious audio impediments and complete lack of direct access, Australian and Singaporean media outlets were nonetheless able to “accurately” interpret Amrozi’s muffled and garbled mixture of Javanese and Indonesian, to mean that he confessed to killing nearly 300 people at Kuta Beach, with a minivan full of potassium chlorate detergent stolen from Java.

Not only that, but as Amrozi peered hopefully through a thick psychedelic haze to wave cheerfully at the television cameras, we were further asked to believe he claimed to enjoy killing people, wanted to kill some more, and in particular wanted to kill lots and lots of Americans. So thick was the psychedelic fog surrounding him, Amrozi completely forgot that the punishment for “confessing” to such crimes in Indonesia is death by firing squad.

Needless to say, the entire media event was contrived rubbish, but it served the purpose for which it was mounted, i.e. to drive increased levels of Australian hatred against Amrozi, and through him against all Muslims across south east Asia. Australian relatives of the dead at the Hindu ceremony understandably shouted “kill him”, while Australian politicians at home took the opportunity to increase religious and ethnic division with comments including “ugly sneering Indonesian attitudes”, and “these people are vicious and dangerous.”
To establish exactly who arranged and paid for the Amrozi charade in Bali, we need only look at exactly where the story was covered and broadcast in excessive detail by the western media, and who benefited most from staging the charade in the first place. Australians were beyond doubt the prime media target audience, with Indonesians following a close second. There was also significant coverage in Great Britain, but virtually none at all in America.

Think about it people, think about it. Here was the alleged Bali “culprit” confessing to one of the biggest civilian mass murders in history, and apparently linked to the very same alleged “terrorist organizations” peddled incessantly by the American media. On its own track record, New York should have snapped the story up immediately, and used it relentlessly to further promote its fictional “terrorist” groups.

The only possible or plausible reason for this spectacular event not hogging American television prime time for the same three long days it did in Australia and Indonesia, is that US authorities already knew it was a pathetic scam, quite probably funded by its own shadowy agents in Bali handing out thick wads of crisp $100 bills to corrupt officials. Beneath that lies the 99% probability that Judeo-Christian Americans arranged the Bali attack themselves, in order to “socially engineer” Australian public support for the forthcoming oil crusade in the Middle East.

Subject as always to political pressure, members of the Australian Federal Police in Bali cheerfully threw their questionable weight behind the Amrozi “confession”. When AFP forensic chief Royds was asked whether he believed Amrozi was telling the truth to police, Mr Royds said: "I believe so". Unfortunately for the Australian Government, members of the AFP also appeared to confirm that earlier claims identifying the so-called “chemical explosives” in the Bali bomb, were at best pure guesses, and at worst outright lies.

It was explained to assembled journalists that because evidence at the crime scenes had been washed away by fire hoses, investigators had this week acted on British advice to “climb up light poles and take forensic swabs from roof tiles, signposts and other places that had not been wet.” Oh dear, if you tell enough lies for long enough, you will surely be found out.

So, are members of the Australian investigative team now prepared to say exactly which explosives were used to make the Bali bomb? Well, no, they have now fallen atypically silent, apart from making irrelevant and inane remarks about the bombers having “amazing chemical skills” and “the ability to build very sophisticated weapons.” And for the first time in many weeks, these same investigators have suddenly decided to wear full-length protective clothing, including facemasks and airtight hoods.

Claiming “amazing chemical skills” for the bombers is seriously understating the case. Any alchemist out there who could transmute potassium chlorate detergent into a critical plutonium nuclear weapon of the kind detonated at Kuta Beach, would instantly win the Nobel Prizes for chemistry and physics, before being politely but forcibly inducted into the American nuclear program at Los Alamos Laboratories.

Although providing no details about the bomb personally, the AFP representative who spoke to the media stood right next to a large board, on which was clearly written the word “Semtex”. Oh no! The Bali bomb was surely not made from the deadly Czechoslovakian plastic explosive allegedly used in tiny quantities by “Muslim Terrorists” to blow up Pam Am 103 over Lockerbie? No, because that would be impossible, but the board was certainly placed next to the AFP representative to subliminally suggest that you, the viewer, should believe Semtex was the probable villain.

In reality, the most powerful version of this “terror” explosive, Semtex–H, is only 1.104 times as powerful as TNT, and thus substantially weaker than either C-4 or RDX. Manufactured by the Semtin Glassworks in Czechoslovakia, the most common version of Semtex-H contains 42% RDX and 41% PETN, with the balance made up of antioxidant, plasticizer and binder. Semtex had nothing, I repeat nothing, to do with the blast outside the Sari Club. Nor did any other "chemical" explosive.

Yesterday it was discreetly announced that the contents of the crater, and other debris from the bombsite would be disposed of far out to sea, as a final step in the "Hindu cleansing process". The fact that no Hindu cleansing process known to man requires that nuclear-contaminated waste be buried far out to sea, seems to have escaped media attention. Dumping your nuclear waste in an ocean trench and then blaming it on the Hindu religion is an ingenious idea, in this case based on pure desperation.

. Late yesterday the diggers started work, frantically removing structures from Kuta high street before they could be subjected to proper examination by suspicious politicians in Jakarta. The first target of this combined mechanical assault was the building shown in the pictures above with the exposed reinforcing bar, an embarrasing monument perpetually proving the nuclear nature of the blast. Not any more it isn't, with trucks swiftly removing the rubble for a tasteful religious burial far out to sea.

Immediately after the Hindu cleansing ceremony, diggers and wrecking balls were
sent in to remove the crater contents and other material for burial "far out to sea"

Removing the physical evidence will heighten rather than diminish the controversy, and it will certainly not stop those determined to prove that this was not an attack by Muslims on Indonesian, Australian, and British soft targets. Perhaps more significant now that the dust has literally settled, is determining exactly how many people are still officially missing: critical numbers that are currently some of the best-kept secrets in the west.

You see, by allowing the diggers and wrecking balls to move in yesterday and demolish the site, authorities have made it clear publicly that they have now recovered every available body part from the crime scene. If they had not recovered every available body part, international convention would require that the crime scene remain a crime scene for as long as it takes to effect full recovery, normally several months for an incident as huge as this one.

Jakarta politicians may not yet be aware of the fact, but a nuclear event can be proved not only by available evidence at the crime scene, but also by evidence that should have been recovered and stored away from the crime scene, but was not. Because a nuclear weapon is the only device capable of generating sufficient heat and pressure to completely vaporize human bodies, a substantial deficit of human remains at the site, or in correct storage afterwards, is as convincing and damning in the nuclear sense as finding slow alpha radiation lurking in a monsoon drain.

As stated these figures are very hard to come by, and your help is needed to track them down in your own country. It seems likely on present estimates that the actual death toll is not 182 as claimed by Australian authorities, but much closer to 300. If you live in Indonesia, Britain, Germany, France, New Zealand, or any other country affected by the blast, do your best to obtain your own country’s total number of confirmed dead, and those still unaccounted for. Note here that it is the "unaccounted for" figures that western governments are desperately trying to conceal, because they and they alone have the easy ability to blow the Bali "body scam" wide open. Please send a copy of your results to joe....@ntlworld.com Crude figures available at present indicate that a minimum of 40 Australians are still missing, 30 British, 7 German, 3 French and possibly 6 New Zealanders. I know this sounds gruesome, but if these figures are even close to accurate, then the authorities in Bali must have 86 x 120 lbs average weight of body parts in storage, before we make an allowance for dehydration and decomposition. Let us be generous and allow a full 30% deduction for dehydration and decomposition, meaning the authorities must currently have a minimum of 7,224 pounds [ 3.61 TONS] of body parts in storage awaiting identification.

If the current figure in storage is much lower than that, as I have been repeatedly assured it is by Balinese contacts, then a large number of human beings were turned into heat and light at the micro nuclear weapon’s point of criticality. If we can accurately determine the total number of “unaccounted for" victims, then we can apply simple arithmetic to calculate how many of them vanished in the first five microseconds of the 300,000 degree centigrade fireball.

It is already being rumored [but has not yet been confirmed], that authorities have been speeding up the process by “cheating” on the body parts. Put simply, and mostly in order to give the affected families rapid “closure”, coffins containing as little as a single DNA-identified arm have been buried, with the balance of the body weight made up with sandbags. Normally such a procedure is used for genuinely humane reasons, and provides the family with a physical grave to mourn over. Nothing wrong with that so far as it goes, because the procedure hurts no one and helps relatives get over the tragedy. Nor is it unusual. The procedure has been used countless times in the past at major disaster sites.

The problem we face is that of forensic authorities trying to use this procedure to “cover” for the deficiency in body parts, by suddenly “speeding up” the identification process in a bid to camouflage the huge deficit in stored body parts. Fifty quick funerals with only twenty pounds of body parts in each coffin would certainly help to do that. We therefore need to establish the total weight of body parts in storage TODAY, and make a note of it for future reference. Any Indonesians reading this please do the best that you can, and send the accurate figure to the email address above

Update 13 February 2003

Zionist Nuclear Attack on Bali Officially “Buried” by Western Media

Alarmed by new evidence which points directly at the real villains behind the atrocity in Bali, commercial and government-owned western television networks worked together last week to finally “prove” that an unlikely bunch of poor and ill-informed Muslim villagers from central Java, were responsible for the exotic million-foot-per-second nuclear blast that killed more than 200 people at Kuta Beach on 12 October 2002.

Jakarta Post Editor Robert S. Finnegan is an internationally published investigative reporter with over two decades investigative experience. He currently holds an Alaska (U.S.) Private Investigator license.

Timeline: The Bali Bombing, a comprehensive overview
The following timeline is excerpted from reports published in the Jakarta Post unless otherwise attributed

Link to this article: http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm

Bomb in Jakarta Hotel Was American/Israeli - Someone in Washington has a lot of explaining to do!

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They also have such awesome disinformation as:

HIV does not cause AIDS

2012 End of World Prophecy

9/11 No Planes (multiple articles)

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« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2009, 08:41:56 PM »

So you agree with Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory over the Tritium?

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Elevated tritium levels at the World Trade Center
http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1678&context=lbnl

blah, blah, blah


Hello!?! 48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue - This concentration is almost equal to the highest concentrations of environmental contamination of the 1960's after Thousands of Megaton Nukes were 'tested'.  55 TIMES BACKGROUND AND ALMOST EQUAL TO THE HIGHEST RECORDED LEVELS OF THE 60'S IS CALLED TRACES - Dr. Jones ceased response.  This is not science, ignoring and denying 55 x what should have been found and that was after 4 million liters of dilution.  JONES AND THE LBNL CALLS THIS TRACES.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/147

Note: This is based on evidence in which some of glass Tritium containers were not even melted by fire. All of the Tritium found was only in/on the unmelted glass. In any fire that can melt glass, ALL of tritium escapes into the atmosphere, unless water is poured over the source DURING the initial fire.)
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« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2009, 08:46:54 PM »

Bit confused as to why a thread on nuclear devices in the WTC towers even exists frankly.


The reason it matters is because, THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT THEY WERE ISRAELI DIMONA NUKES.  Plus, the dead and dying usually like to know why and how they were murdered - sometimes you can save a few if you know.  Interesting that you are intent on ignoring facts or even the cause of the deaths, but are adamant they weren't nukes - yet it doesn't matter. 

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« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2009, 08:55:25 PM »


LOL, link no longer goes to the materials link.  CAN'T REFUTE A SINGLE FACT SCIENTIFICALLY, BUT MOVED TO THIS BOARD. Interesting, isn't it.

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« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2009, 08:56:45 PM »

adamant they weren't nukes - yet it doesn't matter. 

How do you know what I think? You're inside my head examining all my thoughts?

Nice arguement -- it'll hold up well on the cosmic tally sheet.

It really doesn't matter. A bomb is a bomb is a bomb is a bomb. If you got hit by a car would you care what make and model car it was?

Oh and one more thing. Take the stick out of your ass and get off the high-horse -- that's the message I get from you -- so mission failed if you aren't really like that.
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« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2009, 08:58:53 PM »

That is too bad that you could not provide me with such "obvious" evidence that any 2 year old should already know.  I apologize for taking up so much of your valuable time.  Because obviously this is not that important a piece of information.  But it is interesting that the 4th generation micro-nuke (or zio-micro-nuke, depending on the disinformation artist propagating this horseshit) has been used in a plethora of false flag attacks across the world:

Zionist Nuclear Attack on Bali Officially “Buried” by Western Mediai - scroll down to brown update for details

Bali Micro Nuke - Lack of Radiation Confuses "Experts"
Bali Micro Nuke - Lack of Radiation Confuses "Experts"


Thanks for reproducing the link in my article.  Meanwhile, got any proven facts that counter, massive craters, massive heat, 55 x tritium levels, 2 billion pounds of building = instant dust, wilting spires, etc, et al

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« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2009, 09:01:16 PM »

Quote from: xTruthSeekerx
oh i was agreeing with chemical over bring a geiger counter and how bombs wrre planted

http://www.nukeworker.com/study/radiation_faqs/h3.shtml

TRITIUM     HANDLING PRECAUTIONS

The major concern with using H-3 is that it cannot be easily monitored during its use, therefore, special precautions are needed to keep the work environment clean. The regular use of wipe testing is the only way to insure that your work space is not contaminated. Contamination on the skin will not likely cause a significant dose to the dead layer of skin, however, it could lead to the internal absorption of H-3. The maximum permissible body burden to the whole body is 1 mCi.


 tiny drop of contamination containing H-3 can be easily detected with a wipe test from a liquid scintillation counter. A Geiger counter will not detect the presence of H-3.

PHYSICAL DATA


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HALF-LIFE: 12.32 YEARS (BETA EMISSION)
EMAX = 18.6 KEV
EMEAN = 5.7 KEV
EFFECTIVE BIOLOGICAL HALF LIFE: 12 DAYS
CRITICAL ORGAN: WHOLE BODY
BODY BURDEN: 1 mci, WHOLE BODY

MAX, RANGE IN AIR: 6.1 mm
MAX. RANGE IN WATER: 6 X 10-3 mm
MAX. PERMISSIBLE CONCENTRATION IN AIR: 0.002 p. Ci/ml (3H2); 0.000005 I~Ci/ml (3H20)
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« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2009, 09:02:48 PM »

oh i was agreeing with chemical over bring a geiger counter and how bombs wrre planted

When dealing with residual Tritium a Geiger Counter isn't going to do anything more than detect background radiation. Tritium releases no Alpha or Gama, and very weak Beta radiation.

I would suggest that you refrain from making blanket statements that aren't supported by any facts. Dr. Ward makes some very credible factual arguments, if you can't refute his arguments than it would be better for you to be quiet.

The main reason I have any interest in whether or not small nuclear weapons were used in the demolitions of the WTC buildings is to find the truth of what happened. If they were than it also has validity for the Oklahoma City Bombing where similar anomalies were present.   
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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2009, 09:06:01 PM »

http://www.nukeworker.com/study/radiation_faqs/h3.shtml

TRITIUM     HANDLING PRECAUTIONS

The major concern with using H-3 is that it cannot be easily monitored during its use, therefore, special precautions are needed to keep the work environment clean. The regular use of wipe testing is the only way to insure that your work space is not contaminated. Contamination on the skin will not likely cause a significant dose to the dead layer of skin, however, it could lead to the internal absorption of H-3. The maximum permissible body burden to the whole body is 1 mCi.


 tiny drop of contamination containing H-3 can be easily detected with a wipe test from a liquid scintillation counter. A Geiger counter will not detect the presence of H-3.

PHYSICAL DATA


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HALF-LIFE: 12.32 YEARS (BETA EMISSION)
EMAX = 18.6 KEV
EMEAN = 5.7 KEV
EFFECTIVE BIOLOGICAL HALF LIFE: 12 DAYS
CRITICAL ORGAN: WHOLE BODY
BODY BURDEN: 1 mci, WHOLE BODY
MAX, RANGE IN AIR: 6.1 mm
MAX. RANGE IN WATER: 6 X 10-3 mm
MAX. PERMISSIBLE CONCENTRATION IN AIR: 0.002 p. Ci/ml (3H2); 0.000005 I~Ci/ml (3H20)

Blue, Tritium is very weird stuff.  Supposedly over a short time, the stuff somehow even gets into sealed steel containers.  It shouldn't happen but it does.  The stuff tends to equalize with it's surroundings very rapidly.

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Blue, Tritium is very weird stuff.  Supposedly over a short time, the stuff somehow even gets into sealed steel containers.  It shouldn't happen but it does.  The stuff tends to equalize with it's surroundings very rapidly.

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Hey I've got a 200 strong Israeli spy-ring running around the country following the "hijackers" and the DEA and bugging everyone in sight plus "Urban Moving" Vans that bombing sniffing dogs detect explosives . The Israelis are cheering when the planes hit the buildings 9/11 - Israeli Surveillance - Hijackers - FBI Suspects - IN-Adequate Warning . No, micro-nukes can't be possible....
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« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2009, 09:26:11 PM »

9/11/01 Attacks Were An Inside/Outside Job
Proven Referenced Evidence of 4th Generation Micro Nukes in WTC1, WTC2, & WTC6

Thermate, C4, Micro Nukes and 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job Is The Only Proven Theory that Complies with All of the Evidence in One Proven Theory.

To date, not one valid referenced fact has been established to refute a single proven fact in about 300 references presented in the article, let alone the primary evidence for micro nukes in the WTC.

1. Three Massive WTC Craters - See us gov LIDAR proof: http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

2. Five Acres of WTC Land Brought to Seering Temperatures in a Few Hours by an 'Anaerobic, Chlorine Fueled "Fire" - Impossible by Basic Laws of Physics. See us gov Thermal Images proof:
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

3. Tritium Levels 55 Times (normal) Background Levels assessed a numerical value of 'traces' and 'of no human concern'. See us gov (DOE report) proof: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141

4. An Impossible "Fire" (Combustion Process). See Laws of Physics for Fire/Combustion Process and Dr. Cahill's data on 'anaerobic incineration'. http://rense.com/general77/newlaws.htm

5. And More Proprietary Evidence

Ed Ward, MD - 911 Related Articles - Chronological:

Bombs in the WTC Buildings Proves Nothing to Racist-Fascist Bigots http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/08/21/ward.htm

Micro-Nukes in the WTC  http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/ward.htm General evidence for inside job and background of micro nukes

Update: Micro-Nukes at the WTC - Main micro nuke evidence presented in this article.   http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
 
Update: Proves Micro Nukes in the WTC http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/04/16/ward.htm

Verifying the Source of WTC Tritium Levels that Are 55 Times "Background Levels" http://www.rense.com/general76/wtc.htm

Prof. Jones Denies, Ignores, Misrepresents Proven Tritium Levels 55 Times Normal Background Levels
http://www.rense.com/general77/levels.htm

Steven Jones Replies To Dr. Ed Ward
http://www.rense.com/general77/ward.htm

Prof Jones Gladly Assists Testing Unaffected WTC Items
http://www.rense. com/general77/profjh.htm

Update: Factual Evaluation of the DOE WTC Tritium Report Data - 911 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141

Breakdown of the WTC Rain and Firehose Water - 4 Million Gallons of Dilution http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/136

Prof Jones Accepts Validity of Stable Isotopic Testing For Neutron Activation of Fusion Reactions  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/142

Note: According to Dr. Deagle, he has been unable to find anyplace in the world that will perform the needed tests on the WTC sample.

Hello!?! 48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue - This concentration is almost equal to the highest concentrations of environmental contamination of the 1960's after Thousands of Megaton Nukes were 'tested'.  55 TIMES BACKGROUND AND ALMOST EQUAL TO THE HIGHEST RECORDED LEVELS OF THE 60'S IS CALLED TRACES - Dr. Jones ceased response.  This is not science, ignoring and denying 55 x what should have been found and that was after 4 million liters of dilution.  JONES CALLS THIS TRACES.
http://groups.yahoo. com/group/EdWard-MD/message/147

Note: This is based on evidence in which some of glass Tritium containers were not even melted by fire. All of the Tritium found was only in/on the unmelted glass. In any fire that can melt glass, ALL of tritium escapes into the atmosphere, unless water is poured over the source DURING the initial fire.)

Ed Ward, MD

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« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2009, 09:29:47 PM »

Hey I've got a 200 strong Israeli spy-ring running around the country following the "hijackers" and the DEA and bugging everyone in sight plus "Urban Moving" Vans that bombing sniffing dogs detect explosives . The Israelis are cheering when the planes hit the buildings 9/11 - Israeli Surveillance - Hijackers - FBI Suspects - IN-Adequate Warning . No, micro-nukes can't be possible....

Yep, and the French were here with cameras too (nadir?) filming the fire dept, but also just happened to catch the plane going into the WTC - don't you just love coincidences.  I believe there was an Israeli tie to him too.

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« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2009, 09:39:27 PM »

Here you go, Ed

http://911foreknowledge.com/staged.htm

Quit being a prick.
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« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2009, 09:49:04 PM »

 Hmmm lets see how long this lasts. This is a great link and it uses the relevant numbers. Except your hypothesized numbers here.

"48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue - This concentration is almost equal to the highest concentrations of environmental contamination of the 1960's after Thousands of Megaton Nukes were 'tested'.  55 TIMES BACKGROUND AND ALMOST EQUAL TO THE HIGHEST RECORDED LEVELS OF THE 60'S IS CALLED TRACES - Dr. Jones ceased response.  This is not science, ignoring and denying 55 x what should have been found and that was after 4 million liters of dilution.  JONES AND THE LBNL CALLS THIS TRACES."
Blah, blah, blah

No iodine in my article.  Where does he deal with proven referenced 55 x normal levels of tritium EXCEPT TO CALL THEM TRACES.  Where does he deal with massive craters, massive heat, 2 billion pounds of instant dust, wilting spires, etc, et al.  YET THIS SO CALLED RESPONSE CAME OUT DAYS AFTER MY PROVEN REFERENCED FACTS. THEN WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE FACTS JONES CEASED RESPONSE.  HE COULDN'T PROVE MY INFORMATION WRONG SO USED OTHER BOGUS SCIENCE BS TO REFUTE. THE ONLY THING HE DEALT WITH IN MY ARTICLES WAS TRITIUM AND HE LIED ABOUT IT LIKE LBNL AND CALLED IT "TRACES, BELOW CONCERN, 1/7 OF EPA REPORTABLE LEVELS" - REPORTED LEVELS ARE EQUAL TO THE HIGHS OF TRITIUM IN THE 60'S AFTER THOUSANDS OF MEGATON NUKES WERE TESTED.  55 TIMES BACKGROUND IS NOT TRACES. 

BTW, after lbnl said exit signs, if you read the whole article IT CLEARLY STATES NO EXIT SIGNS IN WTC, THEN THEY SUDDENLY FOUND GUNSIGHTS - to account for the dinky amount of tritium found in ONLY ONE LITER - NOT THE 4 MILLION LITERS OF DILUTION - BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS THAT ARE REFERENCED AND PROVEN.

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« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2009, 11:43:47 PM »

Burlguy you've got more patience than me.

Claire Wolfe should have put that in her book..

#102 -- Argue on the Internet whether Nuclear bombs were used in the WTC towers demolition or not.
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« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2009, 11:55:37 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USnxe7hxP4

Hrmmmm?
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« Reply #108 on: March 05, 2009, 12:11:14 AM »

Malformed huh -- whoops.

Let's try that again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USnxe7hxP4I
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« Reply #109 on: March 05, 2009, 12:19:34 AM »

If you go with this graph there is more strontium and barium than Copper. Considering all the copper wiring and copper plumbing this does not make a bit of sense other than all the copper decided not to melt or pulverize..... Something is not right with this and it is taken from this website.. Hmmm looks like someone is cooking the books trying to make it in their favor.

Irrelevant, not used as proof of nukes in my articles only mentioned.  Perhaps, you should do like jones and use other articles BS to refute my proven reference facts.

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From all the links you provided very few of them are peer reviewed. Now by calling yourself a doctor you would understand the need for peer review. It is really easy to manipulate a couple of numbers and make them fit your agenda.
http://www.wtcnuke.com/fallout.php
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Good idea.  Get Jones to confront the proven facts instead of HIDING FROM THEM.  Why is he hiding from them instead of just proving them wrong.  BTW, my facts and calculations have been peer reviewed by Deagle.  

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 It all comes down to Why was there no blast? What organization in the World trade center had tritium in storage, probably illegally.
The gun sites and exit signs and watches can account for all the tritium according to the studies
 We also have to verify the test indicating the elevated levels of building number 6. If they are correct then building number 6, basement 5 contained something.... Still no evidence of Nuke....
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got some facts for probably or contained something VS MY PROVEN FACTS?  I thought the exit signs accounted for all the tritium.  I bet 6 was really storage for massive amounts of tritium.  Still no evidence, just massive craters, massive heat, 55 x background levels of tritium, anaerobic chlorine fueled fires, wilting spires, massive spectrum of cancers, 2 billion pounds of dust, etc, et al.

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 What I have found is that building number 6 was also pulled and that the ATF had 2 armories there loaded with weapons and countless tritium sites...... Well I dont know about coutless. But it is what I use on mine. So it only starts to make more sense to me.
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got some facts that account for BILLIONS OF TRITIIUM UNITS.  There were 'probably' billions of gunsights in the building? Nope, 6 was really the storage facility for BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS

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According to the New York times the ATF has stated they had 200-400 weapons in the vaults you could probably double that and they also had a vault holding illegal contraband. Looks like they dont like to talk about dirty bomb materials being seized.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE4DB1030F932A35752C1A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
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HE, LARRY, US.  dirty bombs are not TRITIUM.  

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Here is an example of what people have and can buy when they have cash. He made 5 million a year from his trust and planned on destroying Wa. I used to talk to this guy everyday I was best friends with his wife's cousin. He went off the deep end when the stock market crashed. I did a little work for him in the past....Nothing illegal though. He lived here in my home town and moved away 4-5 years ago.

 http://bangornews.com/detail/99263.html

 Where does the ATF, FBI keep this dirty bomb  evidence? The evidence is in big vaults.....
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how much tritium did he have?  tritium is alot harder to get and keep than plain ole radiation for a dirty bomb.  OH, THAT'S RIGHT, IT'S RADIATION SO IT MUST BE TRITIUM.  Yep, they keep it in the big tritium vaults.  SEESH. Yep.

just massive craters, massive heat, 55 x background levels of tritium, anaerobic chlorine fueled fires, wilting spires, massive spectrum of cancers, 2 billion pounds of dust, etc, et al.  ALL PROVEN REFERENCED AND VERIFIED NOT PROBABLY, COULDA, MAYBE, any radiation equals tritium, etc, et al
 
MEANWHILE, WE HAVE PROVEN 55 TIMES BACKGROUND PASSED OF AS TRACES FROM JONES AND LBNL.  Just get jonesy to explain how 55 TIMES NORMAL LEVELS IS TRACES.  Substitute anything for tritium.  You expect to find 1 of them.  But, when you check, THERE ARE 55 OF THEM.  DO YOU CALL THAT TRACES OF IT WERE FOUND?  And that's why Jones had quit responding.  IT'S A FREAKING LIE AND HE AND LBNL WERE CAUGHT.  

Tell ya what, get jonesy to explain how 55 times the amount that is supposed to be found = TRACES, and I'll punt on anaerobic chlorine fueled fires, wilting spires, massive spectrum of cancers, 2 billion pounds of dust, etc, et al.

Be sure and give my love to Israel, Woodhead and Jonesy.

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« Reply #110 on: March 05, 2009, 12:31:47 AM »

9/11/01 Attacks Were An Inside/Outside Job
Proven Referenced Evidence of 4th Generation Micro Nukes in WTC1, WTC2, & WTC6

Thermate, C4, Micro Nukes and 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job Is The Only Proven Theory that Complies with All of the Evidence in One Proven Theory.

To date, not one valid referenced fact has been established to refute a single proven fact in about 300 references presented in the article, let alone the primary evidence for micro nukes in the WTC.

1. Three Massive WTC Craters - See us gov LIDAR proof: http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

2. Five Acres of WTC Land Brought to Seering Temperatures in a Few Hours by an 'Anaerobic, Chlorine Fueled "Fire" - Impossible by Basic Laws of Physics. See us gov Thermal Images proof:
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

3. Tritium Levels 55 Times (normal) Background Levels assessed a numerical value of 'traces' and 'of no human concern'. See us gov (DOE report) proof: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141

4. An Impossible "Fire" (Combustion Process). See Laws of Physics for Fire/Combustion Process and Dr. Cahill's data on 'anaerobic incineration'. http://rense.com/general77/newlaws.htm

5. And More Proprietary Evidence

Ed Ward, MD - 911 Related Articles - Chronological:

Bombs in the WTC Buildings Proves Nothing to Racist-Fascist Bigots http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/08/21/ward.htm

Micro-Nukes in the WTC  http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/ward.htm General evidence for inside job and background of micro nukes

Update: Micro-Nukes at the WTC - Main micro nuke evidence presented in this article.   http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
 
Update: Proves Micro Nukes in the WTC http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/04/16/ward.htm

Verifying the Source of WTC Tritium Levels that Are 55 Times "Background Levels" http://www.rense.com/general76/wtc.htm

Prof. Jones Denies, Ignores, Misrepresents Proven Tritium Levels 55 Times Normal Background Levels
http://www.rense.com/general77/levels.htm

Steven Jones Replies To Dr. Ed Ward
http://www.rense.com/general77/ward.htm

Prof Jones Gladly Assists Testing Unaffected WTC Items
http://www.rense. com/general77/profjh.htm

Update: Factual Evaluation of the DOE WTC Tritium Report Data - 911 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/141

Breakdown of the WTC Rain and Firehose Water - 4 Million Gallons of Dilution http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/136

Prof Jones Accepts Validity of Stable Isotopic Testing For Neutron Activation of Fusion Reactions  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/message/142

Note: According to Dr. Deagle, he has been unable to find anyplace in the world that will perform the needed tests on the WTC sample.

Hello!?! 48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue - This concentration is almost equal to the highest concentrations of environmental contamination of the 1960's after Thousands of Megaton Nukes were 'tested'.  55 TIMES BACKGROUND AND ALMOST EQUAL TO THE HIGHEST RECORDED LEVELS OF THE 60'S IS CALLED TRACES - Dr. Jones ceased response.  This is not science, ignoring and denying 55 x what should have been found and that was after 4 million liters of dilution.  JONES CALLS THIS TRACES.
http://groups.yahoo. com/group/EdWard-MD/message/147

Note: This is based on evidence in which some of glass Tritium containers were not even melted by fire. All of the Tritium found was only in/on the unmelted glass. In any fire that can melt glass, ALL of tritium escapes into the atmosphere, unless water is poured over the source DURING the initial fire.)

Ed Ward, MD

See the cache on google.  The article is no longer there.
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:3haSsyMmQCgJ:forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D90400.0+ed+ward+md+evidence+4th+generation&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

Clever move trying to hide this post by deleting it and then posting the responses here.  Good job Prison Planet way to deal with the facts.  Just delete it and scam that it's all in this thread, then post pages of one link of more than 200 referenced facts, then attack the site it was on and that's the proof for disproving proven referenced facts.

Now that is what I call a site trying to discover truth.

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« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2009, 12:33:00 AM »

That post is still there...

Man you are just sand paper to my brain....
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« Reply #112 on: March 05, 2009, 12:49:34 AM »

Ahhh you double posted for the sake of double posting -- I see now.

The moderators in no way reflect the attitudes of this site. But hey you want to sling mud so go sling mud.
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« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2009, 12:55:37 AM »

Ahhh you double posted for the sake of double posting -- I see now.

The moderators in no way reflect the attitudes of this site. But hey you want to sling mud so go sling mud.

Posted the article under it's own thread to be seen.  It was deleted, since the facts could not be disproven, so it could be hidden under BS faux 'fission theories'.

Good Job Prison Planet Way to Search for the Truth.

Give my love to Israel, and BYU crew.

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« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2009, 01:23:29 AM »

Sure okay...... Smiley To bad you you jumped to conclusions so early in your studies  Wink You would have know to look into what was kept in building 6. But you had to learn from a little peon here at Prison Planet Forums. Something tells me you wont be sharing this info around. You fail to mention the high rating is only found in basement 5 of building 6. You said there were multiple bomb craters. With only one high reading area?......tisk.....tisk...  You Should have delved deeper. But thanks for giving me the incentive to clear it up for all.

ONLY BASEMENT 5 WAS TESTED and it was only tested TWO TIMES - ONE SAMPLE WAS 55 TIMES NORMAL AND ONE SAMPLE WAS ONLY ABOUT 40 TIMES NORMAL.  Many more off site tests, but only one building tested.  Yep, they were real interested in finding the truth - Just Like Prison Planet.   Meanwhile, massive craters, massive heat, 2 BILLION POUNDS OF INSTANT DUST, wilting spires, hiroshima effect cancers, etc, et al.

Give my love to Israel and the BYU crew CALLING 55 TIMES WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND = TRACES, and that was AFTER 4 MILLION LITERS OF DILUTION. 

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« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2009, 01:48:56 AM »

Ahhh you double posted for the sake of double posting -- I see now.

The moderators in no way reflect the attitudes of this site. But hey you want to sling mud so go sling mud.

Seems like at least one moderator - the one that deleted my post on it's own thread, so it could not be seen reflects the attitude of Israel, Bush, Alex Jones and the BYU crew (Steven Jones, Judy Wood, etc, etal) perfectly.  TRACES = 55 TIMES (AFTER 4 MILLION LITERS OF DILUTION) WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND IS A BLATANT EASILY SEEN LIE.  IE, AFTER BUILDING 6 WAS DILUTED BY 4 MILLION LITERS OF WATER, IT WAS STILL 55 TIMES WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND.

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« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2009, 02:21:59 AM »

I'm the foremost expert on WTC evidence

Case closed. No more discussion. He is God and we dare not question him.

It was a micro nuke planted by Israel. Great.

Now what?




Oh yeah it never mattered in the first place what kind of bomb it was. What a thing to spend so much time on.... Incredible how someone can be intelligent and retarded at the same time.
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« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2009, 02:24:18 AM »

That post is still there...

Man you are just sand paper to my brain....

3:19 AM - Feb 5 2009,

"An Error Has Occurred! The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."
 
When visiting the forum.  The article is not seen in the forum or when I click the below link - the above message comes up.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=90400.0

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« Reply #118 on: March 05, 2009, 02:31:20 AM »

Case closed. No more discussion. He is God and we dare not question him.

It was a micro nuke planted by Israel. Great.

Now what?


Oh yeah it never mattered in the first place what kind of bomb it was. What a thing to spend so much time on.... Incredible how someone can be intelligent and retarded at the same time.

Actually, what I stated was most likely scenario is the nukes were Isaeli Dimona Nukes.  Didn't say they planted them, just said they came by to watch 'the fun' since the Israeli spies were having a party while our brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers and children were murdered by a most likely Israeli Dimona Nuke to start a war in Iraq, with the proof of 55 times normal levels of tritium hidden by Steven Jones, the BYU crew, and LBNL in "TRACES".

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« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2009, 02:34:24 AM »

Case closed. No more discussion. He is God and we dare not question him.

It was a micro nuke planted by Israel. Great.

Now what?

Oh yeah it never mattered in the first place what kind of bomb it was. What a thing to spend so much time on.... Incredible how someone can be intelligent and retarded at the same time.

It doesn't matter to those that do not want a connection to Israeli Dimona Nukes to be seen.  It matters to those dead and dying from radiation and those dying in a war against Iraq.  What a coup for Israel especially while they continue working on a war with Iran - what a coincidence.

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