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chris geo
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« on: January 23, 2009, 01:03:05 PM »

They asked discretion when posting their story so I am respecting that and using they instead of him or her or any names. But here is their account from an article that was supposedly written and then suppressed.

I don't want to say anything else about them other than this person is on my "watch" list. They seem like a genuine person but because of some of the things they mentioned to me it makes me wonder as to their true motives behind speaking to me and giving me this information. Just trust me. I'm cautious of everyone I encounter. You can trust that fact.

I chopped it up in paragraphs to make it easier to read. I just skimmed through it so the paragaphs may not be exactly where they need to be but it's much easier to read than the way it was delivered Wink

PS. They will not talk about the experience IN the tower on that day. I don't want to ask either. If they are genuine then according to them they've been spending the last 8 years trying to get over it. So you can see why I am not going to ask more than once (I already did, they declined to comment).

Chris


The factual evidence indicates that our government is using and has used 3rd or possibly 4th generation hydrogen bombs domestically and internationally. The evidence for international usage is not quite as strong as the domestic usage, but when domestic usage is considered, the international usage seems inescapable. The process of exclusion based on the known facts leaves only one viable option for the destruction of the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings - a relatively pure hydrogen bomb.

Just some of the facts are: widespread cancer in the responders, molten steel, melted cars, steel beams hurled hundreds of feet, aerosolized metals, vaporized steel witnessed and video, aerosolized and pulverized concrete,

elevated tritium levels, vanishing (vaporized) victims, only sliver fragments of victims on roof tops, EMP - Electro Magnetic Pulse effects on communications, hundreds of eyewitness testimony of ancillary explosions by heroic rescuers and victims,

massive dispersal of debris, demolition expert states hydrogen bomb needed for this type of demolition, audio of a massive explosion prior to collapse, video of ancillary explosions, audio of ancillary explosions, significant reduction in debris pile, ancillary thermate found in wreckage, shockwave of a mini yield nuclear blast knocked people off their feet,

vaporization of 200,000 gallons of water, removal of wreckage without investigation, only remnants of fire in one tower minutes after the plane collision, unprecedented history of 3 skyscrapers collapsing secondary to fire, early miscalculation stating WTC building 7 'pulled', towers fall at demolition or free fall speed, foreknowledge of WTC 7 immediate collapse, slow-motion video evidence of plane appendage with smoke and explosion immediately prior to impact of both planes, unprecedented NORAD non response to variant flights, FEMA drill scheduled for same day,

military 'exercise' of exactly what was taking place to prevent NORAD response, most of NORAD protection planes sent far away in another 'exercise' to prevent response, prevention of examination of wreckage by those assigned to investigate, seismic evidence of a mini yield nuclear explosion, Cheney takes over NORAD response command, Cheney prevents NORAD response,

WTC towers designed for 757 collision and fire, 911 used falsely for previously planned war, government fabrication of 'evidence' correlation for starting war, hundreds of people found themselves trapped by locked doors and missing escape routes above and below the impact zone, and not all inclusively, but finally, Bush brands anyone noting any of these facts a terrorist.


The spectrum and percentages of cancer are massive. There are at least 4 classifications of blood-cell cancers: leukemia, lymphoma, Hodgkin's and myeloma. There are many more classifications of soft tissue cancers. There is brain cancer. There is breast cancer. For most of these there are subclassifications of many different types of specific cancer in each, so far not publicly disclosed. There are huge percentages of respiratory distress and loss of function.

Multiple reports of 'irregular cycles' (miscarriages?). Most likely there will be several more types of cancer to follow. In particular, responders should be checked for thyroid cancer and function. There has been no noting of birth defects which also needs to be done. There is one thing and only one thing that can cause all these cancers and problems - RADIATION.


In response to this myriad of disease, a statement of environmental mercury has been claimed. That claim is not verified in testing of air and particle debris samples by private citizens and organizations. It is possible the mercury quotes are from the federal source of science, the United States Geological Survey's analysis of the WTC dust debris. The USGS's leached analysis did show mercury at the 3rd lowest concentration of metals at the mean value (mv) of 0.011 parts per Billion (ppB). The most abundant element concentration in the leaching tests was Strontium at 1,000 ppB (1 ppM) - 100,000 times more than the mercury value. It appears that the leaching of the sample was only partial and inadequate as the reader will see from the spectrometry values.


Why would only mercury be quoted when there were so many other more dangerous elements at higher concentrations than mercury? While the regular elements like Copper - mv 136 ppM, Silver - mv 1.66 ppM, and Vanadium - mv 31 ppM, some of the other significant elements were: Barium - mv 533 ppM, Strontium - mv 727 ppM, Cerium - mv 91 ppM, Yttrium - mv 57 ppM, Lanthanum - mv 46 ppM, Molybdenum - mv 11 ppM, Thorium - mv 9 ppM, Uranium - mv 3 ppM, Beryllium - mv 3 ppM, and Cesium - mv 0.6 ppM - partial listing. For readers that are not familiar with most of these elements, here is a link to their relevance.


There is also a claim of environmental benzene that 'permeated' the area in jet fuel as the cause of all of these problems. Once again, we have the quoting of the miraculous jet fuel that burns up in a massive fireball in the first few minutes, then like Christ's feeding the multitudes, still causes a massive fire inside that reaches the temperatures of a Hades that weakens massive fire proofed steel beams and trusses, then resurrects itself on the permeated ground to cause cancer in one hour of limited exposure.
In less than 1 hour, the first WTC building had collapsed and covered Manhattan, in at least 1/3 of a Million Tons of particulate debris.

Unless the jet fuel makes a final appearance and is again resurrected by NIST in it's 3rd miracle, benzene is buried under 1/3 of a million tons of particulate debris after 56 minutes of exposure. Benzene is also a component of gasoline. The assertion that cancer was the result of 56 minutes of exposure to minimal amounts of benzene is ludicrous. If that was true, everyone in the US would be suffering from cancers. As the 3rd WTC building falls, Manhattan is covered in two Billion pounds of pulverized and aerosolized building.


Two billion pounds seemed like an extremely large amount of particulate matter from buildings whose total weight has been quoted at around 3 billion pounds. Debris removal has been quoted at 1.2 billion pounds. Based on these rough numbers 2/3rds of the building was indeed turned to dust or vaporized.
"Live loads on these [perimeter] columns can be increased more than 2,000% before failure occurs." "One could cut away all the first-story columns on one side of the building, and part way from the corners of the perpendicular sides, and the building could still withstand design loads and a 100-mph wind force from any direction." Engineering News-Record, April 2, 1964


Take a look at a collapsed 10 story building in Pakistan. Note the height and size of the collapsed building's remnants compared to the other 10 story buildings. The debris pile is about 30 feet, approximately 1/3 of the height of the erect building. This ratio is consistent with a collapsed building's rubble height. Note the almost complete lack of fine particles. The 47 story WTC 7's building debris should have contained at least five times (approximately 15 stories) the amount of the Pakistan debris as WTC 7 was also built with significantly stronger materials. Yet, WTC 7 remains are casually noted in the government propaganda article as a 2 story debris pile.

Look at the Pakistan debris 'collapsed' picture again, then imagine that debris with 4 more piles on top of it and finally try to imagine the awesome power it would take to break it into 53 micron or smaller dust particles.The only estimates of the two 100 story WTC building debris piles are several stories'. In the very few area photographs of the debris piles published, the amount of debris in the range of several stories is minimal at best. There is also quoting of debris 6 stories high, however, if the reader looks at the rare pictures, the only debris of that height are portions of outer beam skeleton towering significantly higher than the general debris. Not one official measurement of the debris piles is noted. The building residue height is deceiving on 2 levels. First, all of the buildings had craters of a depth of 'several stories'. Secondly, since the craters were in tiered sub-level flooring, the area of the bottoms of the craters would be significantly smaller than the area covered at ground level.


In a failed demolition, a 20 story concrete building, Zip Feed Mill in South Dakota, of significantly weaker construction than the WTC buildings, takes a 4 story dive while the top 16 floors remain intact.
Of the cumulative facts previously noted that deal specifically with a major explosion and it's effect, the only single possibility for all is a thermonuclear bomb placed by the US government. Even when taken individually, the only possibility for some of the facts is a thermonuclear bomb. The next logical step is "Do bombs with the needed characteristics exist?"


The government's answer to that question is a super-top-secret response that will not be given. Both political parties sequestered Operation Northwoods and more for 40 years, so they are certainly not going to answer the question truthfully. The following evidence clearly shows a mini yield semi-pure hydrogen bomb existed in 1958 and that it has had 40 years of refinement. The graphic in the upper right corner depicts the only published diagram of an atomic bomb in which public general knowledge of atomic weaponry is known. This is not the bomb that would be required for the WTC demolition. The bomb is a 2nd generation atomic bomb of the 'hydrogen bomb' category.

The H-bomb pictured is not a pure hydrogen bomb which is actually very closely related to the already developed 'neutron bomb'. In reality, this 2nd generation H-bomb is nothing more than a fission bomb used for a trigger with hydrogen fusion used for extra power. This bomb produces the results of which the general public is aware - massive power, radiation and millenniums of radioactive devastation. It is at least 30 to 40 year old, late 2nd generation technology that has been phased out for lower yield 3rd generation atomic weapons which have a longer half life, easier maintenance and an inserted energy source.

Note the use of DU in the weaponry. DU is used as the casing and as the container for the fusion reaction which becomes part of the fissionable material. This is important in the current international 3rd generation H-bomb usage and the hybrid fusion bomb. At first it was believed that the DU casing and the DU fusion container would most likely not be part of the late 3rd generation or 4th generation weaponry used in the WTC demolitions as it is too dirty (long term radioactive residue) for the pure hydrogen bomb needed. However, subsequent information of dust analysis, hybrid fusion, old known facts of pure fusion bombs, early low yield semi-pure warheads, neutron bombs, and knowledge that debris would be removed as classified information makes either scenario viable.


According to brave activist, Howard Morland, in his article 'The Holocaust Bomb', second generation atomic bombs got their start in 1950 and came to fruition in 1956 with Eisenhower's announcement of a 95% clean bomb. In 1958 the Mk-41C was tested for a 9.3 Megaton yield, 4.8% of the energy was from fission with 95.2% from fusion. Less radioactive (more fusion and less fission energy) or semi-clean H-bombs were known then and were used for testing purposes only. The more powerful, mostly fission bombs were deployed for usage in a cognitive effort to produce maximum destruction on 'enemies' for generations and no forethought of the worldwide consequences. Among various other types of hydrogen bomb warheads, the W54 nuke was developed in 1961. The W54 was a micro-nuke that weighed 51 pounds and could be fired from a slightly modified ordinary bazooka. Different versions of the W54 ranged from .01 kt to 1 kt yield. Between the mid 1950's and the mid 70's both types (large yield dirty and small yield clean), of 2nd generation H-bombs were refined.


Focused nuclear explosions were envisioned in 1959 as a possible concept for propulsion of the spacecraft Orion. The mere directing of the yield was obviously known prior to 1959. Samuel Cohen has stated that a low yield neutron bomb may be tailored to direct yield and proposed the concept more than 35 years ago. An underground detonation causes shaping of the direction of yield as well.

Around 1960, the relatively pure H-bomb was modified for selective effects creating the first 3rd generation H-bomb - the Neutron bomb, Enhanced Radiation Warhead, or a mostly fusion bomb. The neutron bomb's energy was mostly based on fusion using Deuterium/Tritium with only a small fission component to ignite the fusion reaction.

The neutron bombs are designed to release at least 80% of its yield as neutrons at the expense of blast and heat as compared to previous fission-fusion warheads. It was not until around 15 years ago that the existence of the neutron bomb was noted. It was during this period that a trial regarding Chinese espionage forced the revelation of the neutron bomb.

Shortly thereafter, Reagan deployed the W70 version with a yield range of 0.8 kt to 1.6 kt. At least 2 years after the neutron bomb had been developed and tested, declassified May 1963, "The mere fact that the U. S. is "interested in pursuing" a program to determine the characteristics of an "enhanced radiation" weapon (neutron bomb)." The standard policy seems to be to develop the weapon, inform congress for development of the weapon and then to inform the public after they have been informed there is a need for the weapon.

Very little has been released about the specific selective refinements of 2nd and 3rd generation weapons in the last 40 years since their development. The fact refinement was taking place is proven by the Orion spacecraft and the neutron bomb. EMP effects have been another area of concern and refinement. While these effects were noted in 1950's testing, there was elevated interest in 1962 with the high altitude (HEMP) detonation producing a massive EMP effect. In November 1972, the following sentence was declassified: "The fact of existence of weapons with tailored outputs, e.g., enhanced x-ray, neutron or gamma-ray output, that we are hardening our weapons to enhanced weapon outputs and that high-Z materials are used in hardening nuclear weapons against high-energy x-rays." Note - the date is the declassification date, not the development date.


How small can a nuclear reaction be? Through hydrodynamic experiments for triggering fusion, extremely lows yield nuclear explosions have been generated on the magnitude of "several Pounds of TNT."" As noted above, in 1961 .01 kt was unveiled in 1961. In 1956, the Tamalpais with a yield of 0.072 kt was declassified.

Prior to the demolition of the WTC buildings, the largest imploded building, Hudson's Department Store was 2.2 million square feet with 33 levels and required 2,728 lbs of explosive. The WTC buildings were significantly stronger than the Hudson's building, but it is doubtful more than a 0.01 kt bomb would be needed for the 47 center columns designed to hold many times the weight of the buildings.

This program produced (partial list) the following information for a regular 0.01 kt yields, air ignition: Fireball max light radius = 25.4 meters, Max time light pulse width = 0.011 seconds, Max fireball airburst radius = 10.6 meters, Time of max temperature = 0.0032 seconds, Area of rad. exposure = 0.12 sq. miles; Blastwave Effects: Overpressure = 5 lb/sq. inch (160 mph) radius = 0.09 km, 1 lb/sq. inch radius = 0.26 km; Underground ignition: Crater diameter = 56 feet with a Richter magnitude of 3.52.

Thermal radiation damage range is significantly reduced by clouds, smoke or other obscuring materials. Surface detonations are known to decrease thermal radiation by half. A neutron bomb produces much less blast and thermal energy than a fission bomb of the same yield by expending its energy by the increase in the production of neutrons. Even the older neutron bombs produce very little long term fallout, but made considerable induced radiation in ground detonations. The half life of induced radiation is very short and is measured in days rather than years.

Summing up known information, an underground explosion of a pure (most likely) or semi-pure, Minimum Residual Residue direction focused 0.01 kt yield hydrogen bomb with selected enhanced radiation dispersal - most likely neutron since that radiation would be absorbed by the ground and building, and would decrease the blast and temperature effects.

In 1993, Joe Vialls exposes some facts about single explosions that were very similar to the 2001 WTC bombing. The article, "Micro Nukes in London," notes the sudden usage of massive explosions in business districts by the IRA with a brief mention of the 1993 bombing of the WTC. In the supposed first mega-bombing by the 'IRA', an eyewitness stated, "The ground shook under our feet. There was a brilliant white flash and a tall vertical column of smoke." Significant information about the Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM - the general class of the W54 warhead).

While the government was working on the usage of a conventional bomb to the corporate media, there was accidental filming of investigators of the bombing in full radiation protective gear. Description of the crater created by the second explosion reveals a hole 60 feet wide and 40 feet deep. Quotes of physicists' Galen Winsor, John McPhee and Theodore Taylor are prophetic for the usage of micro nukes. Taylor specifically notes the future usage of an extremely small micro nuke being used in the WTC in the year 1973.

Another crater 22 feet wide and 5 feet deep is noted in the article "Bali Micro Nuke - Lack of Radiation Confuses Experts." Within 48 hours the Bali government found traces of C4 explosive. Next came the revised explanation of explosives on top of gas containers. After that failed to explain noted facts, the next theory was explosives with napalm.

The final explanation from London quoted a reliable source that an IRA style bomb mixture was used. Still, there were significant problems with the story as the IRA had detonated 1,000 pounds of the mixture and there was no crater produced. The US bomb, BLU-82 - used for clearing helicopter landing zones in the jungles of Vietnam - contains 6.3 tons of high grade military explosive with an aluminum additive for increased heat, but does not create a crater. The 1/4 inch steel encased explosive is parachuted to its target and detonated 1 to 2 feet above ground. Approximately 40 people close enough to be vaporized simply vanished without a trace. Insights on Israel's .01 kt Dimona nuke are also related in this article. According to the information presented, the bomb uses highly enriched Plutonium 239, 99.78% pure, and only emits alpha radiation which is invisible to most Geiger counters.

Another Vialls' article dealing with the supposed vehicle bombing of the Australian embassy in Jakarta, "Zionists Nuke the Australian Embassy in Indonesia," reveals significantly more information on the nuclear attributes of the explosion. A surveillance camera caught the underground nuke explosion and is included in the article. There are pictures of the resultant mushroom cloud compared to a typical nuclear cloud. The crater left by the explosion was 18 feet in diameter and almost 10 feet deep. Pictures and information of the American Special Forces detonation of two trucks loaded with 1,000 pounds of Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil (ANFO) compound are shown. Multiple links to Vialls' special coverage of 'terrorist's' bombings throughout the world are included at the end of his article.

Any terrorist truck bomb with less load capacity than 6.3 tons of explosive that creates a crater is a thermonuclear explosion until proven otherwise.

Based on the above information it is quite clear that our government has murdered citizens, friends and families. Our government used their tyranny to further destroy our God given rights affirmed by the Constitution and to extend their fascist powers worldwide in war. Once you have seen the facts, you can no longer say you are innocent of being an accomplice unless you act by trying to end the tyranny, murder and destruction by this government.

Either act to end it or know that you are an accomplice of traitors, tyranny, murder, maiming, and torture. The following three paragraphs will show you how and where to react to the extent of your degree of involvement. There are other ways to resist. Find one that is effective if you don't like any of my options. If you do nothing, you will never escape the disdain and dishonor of your inaction. Expect no sympathy when your name is called to be the next sacrificial lamb of this government's tyranny. The time is NOW
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 01:26:19 PM »

I don't believe it. Any fission bomb causes massive amounts of radioactive iodine to be released. We should see massive unexplainable rises in thyroid cancer. Instead we see mesothelioma, consistant with Asbestos exposure. How could nobody in New York city find a peak in radioactive isotopes in the air?
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2009, 01:27:31 PM »

Sounds like someone pushing a theory instead of a survivors account of what happened.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2009, 01:30:36 PM »

Whoever they are, they`ve obviously seen the same report as one I saw about the possible use of a mini nuke, most of what your friend sent you just a cut n paste of it.

I was looking for the link to it the other week for another thread on here, I was going to post it and the link to the Finnish Military Explosive Experts report saying he believed it was amini nuke, but couldn`t find it on the site I thought it was on.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2009, 01:41:14 PM »

Form militia's?

aren't there already 1 to 2 million amercian's that are already in a militia?

as for weird messages, im guessing they are from myspace profile? or... blah

nm i wont ask
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2009, 01:44:28 PM »

the whole mini nukes is total dis info, sane addressed it earlier when some idiot tried derailing a thread and the whole first respoionders is because they knew the air quality was shit but still let them do all that thus the govt is responsible and is using donated money to pay for lawyers
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2009, 01:48:55 PM »

Hmmm.

Mini nukes do exist, at least since the 60's when they were mounted on the Davey Crockett mortar and the Small Atomic Demolition Munition(SADM). 

Yes, the after effects of such bombs would be highly radioactive plutonium particles which didn't happen on 9/11.  Perhaps there's a different means of achieving fusion...

A pure hydrogen bomb would need to be able to achieve fusion-with tritium and deteurium isotopses of hydrogen I believe-with a means other than uranium fission. 

In a fission bomb, sections of pure uranium or plutonium are slammed together precisely with conventional explosives into either a sphere(watch the movie "The Manhatten Project" for a sanitized how-to) or with a "gun" system with one section being shot into a larger subcritical mass section of weapons grade fissile material.

A hydrogen bomb has the deteurium and tritium elements-with lithium I believe-in the center, and the uranium/plutonium sphere surrounding it, all propelled by exact detonation of conventional high explosives.

That's basically 1950's technology.  The beast hoards much more advanced technology.

Those buildings on 9/11 were imploded, with a violence I have a hard time believing C-4 and thermite could do alone.  I'm certain you couldn't pack enough C-4 to make one ton steel I beams fly hundreds of feet laterally.  Read the above account; electromagnetic pulse, water, concrete and steel vaporized, slivers of bone sent to rooftops on adjacant buildings.  C-4 doesn't have the energy to accomplish what happened on 9/11, nor can it possibly generate EM pulse.

A nuclear weapon could generate that much energy.  With the assistance of thermite cutting charges a detonation could be orchestrated to make those towers implode.  How did they do it without using highly radioactive uranium or plutonium, which would make NYC uninhabitable? 

Your guess is a good as mine.  Perhaps they have a means to achieve fusion without a uranium fission bomb-maybe a portable magnetic field generator or a industrial laser reflecting off a polished sphere with the deteurium and tritium inside.  That would be my guess.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2009, 02:02:44 PM »


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Possibly. They claim this was written in 2002, just after the attacks. So it's possible they are bullshitting me. Or possible they exposed this before that article about mini-nukes. Or possible they are a disinfo agent. Or possible I'm being surveyed by someone because I'm beginning to make a name for myself and maybe they are keeping an eye on me.

I'm leaving no possibility unconsidered.

Well the information about the possibiblty of mini nukes at Bali and London Docklands was available in 2002.

But they are lying if they say that the entire article is from 2002. The original, that they definitely are cut n pasting from, didn`t appear until Sept 4th 2006.

Here`s the original article, if you click on the link at the bottom saying feel free to post it anywhere as long as you also add the link to the original, brings you back to this very page.

http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/ward.htm

Note the end of it. It was this that caught my eye.

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Any terrorist truck bomb with less load capacity than 6.3 tons of explosive that creates a crater is a thermonuclear explosion until proven otherwise.

Based on the above information it is quite clear that our government has murdered citizens, friends and families. Our government used their tyranny to further destroy our God given rights affirmed by the Constitution and to extend their fascist powers worldwide in war. Once you have seen the facts, you can no longer say you are innocent of being an accomplice unless you act by trying to end the tyranny, murder and destruction by this government.

Either act to end it or know that you are an accomplice of traitors, tyranny, murder, maiming, and torture. The following three paragraphs will show you how and where to react to the extent of your degree of involvement. There are other ways to resist. Find one that is effective if you don't like any of my options. If you do nothing, you will never escape the disdain and dishonor of your inaction. Expect no sympathy when your name is called to be the next sacrificial lamb of this government's tyranny. The time is NOW for Action!

Now Look at what your friend has at the bottom of their article they have sent you

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Any terrorist truck bomb with less load capacity than 6.3 tons of explosive that creates a crater is a thermonuclear explosion until proven otherwise.

Based on the above information it is quite clear that our government has murdered citizens, friends and families. Our government used their tyranny to further destroy our God given rights affirmed by the Constitution and to extend their fascist powers worldwide in war. Once you have seen the facts, you can no longer say you are innocent of being an accomplice unless you act by trying to end the tyranny, murder and destruction by this government.

Either act to end it or know that you are an accomplice of traitors, tyranny, murder, maiming, and torture. The following three paragraphs will show you how and where to react to the extent of your degree of involvement. There are other ways to resist. Find one that is effective if you don't like any of my options. If you do nothing, you will never escape the disdain and dishonor of your inaction. Expect no sympathy when your name is called to be the next sacrificial lamb of this government's tyranny. The time is NOW

They are word for word, exactly the same. In fact, they have missed off a bit from the end of the article.

You are right to be careful Chris, watch your back.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 02:09:23 PM »

it's cool. I'm an open book. Yup. It's not necessarily "forming" militias as much as joining. I get messages asking me why I am not out blowing stuff up, inviting to do so, oh it's f**king crazy. My reply is always the same because this is truly where I stand. "It won't work with most of the people asleep. The only key is to wake up the population along with the soldiers we'll be potentially fighting against. If 80% of the soldiers were aware of what was going on in Iraq and refused to go, there would be no war. Same here".

I elaborate more and say it more eloquently. But it's true! They (the government) detonate one suitcase nuke and say "oh it's evil home grown terrorists connected to al-cia-da" and suddenly the whole world says "get them!" But if the world is smart enough to say "no it's not. It's you!" There won't even be a need to fire one shot ever.



this is sort of a rant i guess, i just typed this off the top of my head

all i would say is, we/me/you/whoever needs to try to wake up more people to these truth's

Form some kind of group really, get some front man or 2 or 3 or more like ron paul , and just go ape shit on govmn't on whatever topic, Illegal IRS , phony Drug War, ect ect , demand the closure, or whatever
protests out the ass

if that dont work/ or Simutaneously if the Movement is Really really big, Hit them where it hurts, hit them in there Wallets, imagine 2 to 15 million people NOT going to work, or some big time scenario

another step would be physically removing these Scourge of Criminal's from Office positions, federal, state and local level

and if they use police and military to detain or kill "civilians" protesting, or because they were physically removing their criminal friends from office

then your looking something of a boston massarce type scenario, revolt revolution or civil war or whatever

last option is making the enemy really really dead
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2009, 02:14:30 PM »

the only way really, for this to all go down a smooth as possible is to immediatly wake up our military as soon as possible and get them home

my opinion
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2009, 02:23:25 PM »

hmm, maybe, more than likely they are too cheap for something like that though.  look at how sloppy the operation was.  we can see right through it
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2009, 03:04:43 PM »

On micro nukes:

http://www.manuelsweb.com/sam_cohen.htm

Sam Cohen Neutron Bomb inventor says U.S. defenses suffer because of politics

In 1969, Cohen was fired from the Rand Corp. for continuing to advocate the use of tactical neutron bombs to end the conflict. "I lost all my battles," Cohen says today.
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In 1979, he was in Paris helping the French build their own arsenal of neutron bombs when presidential candidate Ronald Reagan came through on a European tour. Cohen met with Reagan to brief him on the neutron bomb. Reagan grasped the idea of neutron weaponry immediately, and made a pledge to Cohen, and later a public pledge, that he would reverse Carter administration policy by building and deploying a large number of neutron bombs.
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Most frightening for Cohen is the relative ease by which neutron bombs can be created with a substance called red mercury. Red mercury is a compound containing mercury that has undergone massive irradiation. When exploded, it creates tremendous heat and pressure - the same type needed to trigger a fusion device such as a mini-neutron bomb.

Before, an obstacle to creating a nuclear bomb was the need for plutonium, which when exploded could create a fusion reaction in hydrogen atoms. But red mercury has changed that. The cheap substance has been produced in Russia, Cohen said, and shipped on the black market throughout the world.


Cohen said that when U.N. inspectors went to Iraq to examine the Iraqis' nuclear weapons capabilities, the U.N. team found documents showing that they had purchased quantities of red mercury. The material means a neutron bomb can be built "the size of baseball" but able to kill everyone within several square blocks
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The public isn't being warned about this development because the politicians have little desire to combat the menace or to confront nations like Iraq, Iran and Libya that likely would use such weapons, Cohen said.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Cohen


Red Mercury claims
More recently, Cohen has been the main proponent of what most consider to be a mythical substance, red mercury. If the "conventional story" is to be believed, red mercury was a disinformation campaign led by US government agencies in order to lure potential terrorists into being captured. The story that was released was that red mercury was developed by the Soviet Union as a "shortcut" to a fusion bomb, and that with the fall of the Soviet Union it was being offered on the market by the Soviet mafia. When prospective buyers showed up to take delivery of the material, they were arrested.

During the height of the story, in the 1990s, Cohen became a proponent of red mercury, claiming not only that it existed, but going further to claim that it was a powerful ballotechnic material that directly compressed the fusion fuel without the need for a fission primary. Bombs using red mercury had no real critical mass and could be developed at any size. He further claimed that the Soviets had produced a number of "micro-nukes" based on red mercury, which are described as being about as large as a baseball and weighing 10 pounds. According to Cohen, their existence meant that any effort to control nuclear proliferation based on fissile material was thus hopeless. A reiteration of the claim can be seen in The Nuclear Threat That Doesn't Exist – or Does It?, by Cohen and Joe Douglass in an 11 March 2003 guest editorial in Financial Sense Online.[2]

Cohen later went on to claim that 100 of these mini-nukes were in the hands of terrorists [6], and later that Saddam Hussein had taken delivery of about fifty of these devices, which he supposedly planned on using against the US forces as they approached Baghdad.

In the face of claims that red mercury was a disinformation campaign, Cohen has claimed that Russia has such weapons, "red mercury" exists as claimed, and the US, among the technical elite, take it seriously, while at the same time starting a disinformation campaign claiming "red mercury" is bogus in order to assuage the public. Independent confirmation of such claims in the article is lacking.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 03:28:47 PM »

Interesting CG, I op'd a thread last May on the nuke theory! I'm glad you brought it back, it's a totally different angle to the 911 destruction in Manhattan that horrible day! Wink

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=39760.msg174339#msg174339
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2009, 03:59:14 PM »

An interesting article regarding the Bali Bombings:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1715.cfm

WAS A "MICRO-NUKE" WARHEAD USED IN BALI BLAST? UPDATED October 16, 2002





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" 'All the buildings in the vicinity just collapsed, cars overturned and debris from the buildings fell on them, he [a bystander] said, without giving his hometown. 'I have never seen anything so horrible. There were so many people, 18 to 20 year olds, people in pieces all over the street.'New Zealander Lonny McDowell, 25, was at Paddy's when the blast blew chairs and concrete through the bar. He said he saw a man with no legs and another with a cable stuck through his stomach."

Once again, the destruction, the death toll, and the devastation seems too large to be caused by conventional explosives. Let us now review another article for yet more information.

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Let us now go back to this article for more information.

"Australia tourist Rachel Hughes, 18, said she and a friend had just arrived in Kuta when the blast occurred. Standing in the foyer of the Bounty Hotel, 'people were just walking in, blood dripping off them, burns to their face, skin coming off them,' she told Australia's Seven Network."

Once again, severe burns and skin coming off the bones is a result of exposure to a nuclear blast; however, all these details do not conclusively point to a nuclear blast instead of a conventional one, so let us continue our investigation. Before we move on, two factors seem important:

1. The blast occurred at 11 p.m. local time. The number '11' has been associated with the Illuminati and their plans to produce their Christ [Antichrist];

2. Muslim terrorist groups love to take credit for a blast they have successfully carried it out; however, no group stepped forward to take public responsibility. Surely, they would love to take credit for such a successful terrorist attack as this one! Notice that the National Police Chief of Indonesia was the one who claimed the blast was a terrorist blast. Immediately after his statement President Bush and other Western leaders issued calls for more strident measures to be taken against "global terrorism".
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Notice the workers examining the 5-foot-deep crater caused by this blast. Listen to Viallis explain the significance:

"Photographic evidence proving the use of an unconventional weapon was edited out almost immediately by the major media, though not from the amateur video camera which provided the picture at top center above. It alone shows the deep crater being probed by Indonesian police and military with a [very long] pole. The very presence of the crater itself proves the weapon was detonated sub-surface, while the crater’s depth in combination with its diameter, prove the depth at which the weapon was initially placed."

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For the same reason, we are told the bomb was detonated above ground from a jeep-type vehicle; however, that would not explain a five foot crater. Only a bomb set inside the ground would have created a crater this large. Another story confirms the 5-foot-deep crater:

NEWS BRIEF: "Bush calls for action after Bali blast", Business Day, http://www.bday.co.za/bday/content/direct/1,3523,1199284-6078-0,00.html, 15 October 2002.


"At the scene of the Kuta blast, about 300 metres of street looked absolutely devastated, buildings on both side of the road totally destroyed ...Outside what was once the vibrant Sari Club, there was nothing standing with a crater 1.5 metres [5 feet] deep where the bomb went off and now a puddle of water."

Now, if you have a 5 feet wide crater, caused by a nuclear explosion, the width of the crater should be 12.8 feet [4 meters] wide. Listen to this news story confirm the 4 meters width of the crater.

MEWS BRIEF: "Death Toll Soars In Bali Blast", BruneiDirect.Com, http://www.brudirect.com/DailyInfo/News/Archive/Oct02/131002/nite08.htm

"The Sari Club in the resort of Kuta - a nightspot popular with Western tourists - was reduced to a heap of smouldering ruins by the blast, which also wrecked nearby discos, restaurants and a hotel. It gouged out a four-metre-wide crater."

Remember these facts, for they will play a significant role at the end of this article.


If a nuclear device producing a 5-foot deep crater that is 13 feet wide [4 meters], people at least several kilometers away could hear and feel the explosion. Listen to this story confirm that detail.

NEWS BRIEF: "Rugby players killed in Bali blast", Ireland On-Line

"The shockwaves caused by the two explosions could be felt two kilometres away, he said. It caused the walls of his hotel around the corner to shake and other buildings in the area had their windows blown out. 'We got back to the room and it felt like someone was banging on the shutters,' he said, adding that there was now a crater around the area where the car bomb had exploded."


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The thing that jumped out at me is he said the towers were designed to withstand a hit from a 757. The problem is that there was no such thing when the towers were bullt. Not even the 747 esisted in those days. In fact they were only built to withstand a 707.
 but over all, I think were even a small nuclear device used, there would be far more devistation. It doesn't require a nuke to nessesarily melt or even vaporize some metals. Look at the results of an electricl arc over, it produces clouds of vaporized copper. and it certainly doesn't require a nuke to reduce a body to ash. also.
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The thing that jumped out at me is he said the towers were designed to withstand a hit from a 757. The problem is that there was no such thing when the towers were bullt. Not even the 747 esisted in those days. In fact they were only built to withstand a 707.
 but over all, I think were even a small nuclear device used, there would be far more devistation. It doesn't require a nuke to nessesarily melt or even vaporize some metals. Look at the results of an electricl arc over, it produces clouds of vaporized copper. and it certainly doesn't require a nuke to reduce a body to ash. also.

Agreed 707, as far as damage, these guys spent went thru the numbers as to the "controlled demolition"... and
 Suppose you have a weapon that no one has seen or heard of before and use it in a false flag event then the event becomes unexplainable only by controlling "experts"...

So, Ok. how about Isamabad...
search: nuke Islamabad

http://top-secret-at.blogspot.com/2008/09/mossad-mini-nuke-in-islamabad.html
Saturday, 20 September 2008

The massive Bali Type Mossad bomb warning following the Pakistan Fires On US Troops aggression inside a sovereign nation. The Mossad blast made a forty foot crater just like in Bali and was heard 15 kilometres away. "I have seen bomb wreckage in many places in Pakistan, but I have never seen anything on this scale." BBC

Islambad Pakistan

Toasted cars just like 9/11 - Islamabad: 2008


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There is much evidence showing that armed guards were in place during the concrete pouring of the slabs. Rumor was they were prewired and explosives in place at time of construction as the cold war was escalating. This is done with over seas embassies so they dont fall into the wrong hands. This answers most of my questions about free fall speed in  1,2, and 7.

7 was wired thats why, it was an implosion ie PULL it
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2009, 05:14:16 PM »

and not to be an ass i can't believe this shits even posting when it's clearly like the no planer bull
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Nuclear, mini-nuke, hydrogen bomb etc., doesn't seem to matter at this stage. The government will never tell.  What is certain is that thousands of people are sick, dead or dying as a result, and millions of lives might still be at stake. The area should have been condemned as uninhabitable.  Not taking the pre-caution in considering the area as a war zone of nuclear fall-out could imply that this government might be secretly allowing on-going experimentation of its populace to determine the long rang survivability/morbidity of future short term nuclear war against its own citizens.

I still have my itinerary for that day (9-11).  I was on my way out the door to Atlanta, scheduled for Delta to New York, when the phone rang, demanding that I immediately turn on my television before leaving. That is how I got out of being there.  However, in looking back, I’ve always found it mysterious that prior to that date, both times I had confirmed reservations to New York,  yet on the days that I was scheduled to leave, I found out that both flights were involuntarily cancelled by the airlines for various reasons. This had never happened before.
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2009, 08:25:49 AM »

and not to be an ass i can't believe this shits even posting when it's clearly like the no planer bull
You are an ass, this subject is no where near as f--king crazy sounding as the "no planer" b.s., I can't believe that was brought up!! This is a hell of a lot more interesting than bible thumping and bible trashing, which both, in my opinion gets way too much attention (just look at how long those threads are and the infighting that takes place)! This sort of topic, while less likely to be able to be proven, gets the neurons in the brain firing thus leading to a free flow of ideas and other possibilities, opinions, angles and theories to the actual destruction of the towers and WTC7! No one in our community (911 truth) and in the world of the sleeple know, exactly, how those buildings were demolished!
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2009, 08:33:25 AM »

You are an ass, this subject is no where near as f--king crazy sounding as the "no planer" b.s., I can't believe that was brought up!! This is a hell of a lot more interesting than bible thumping and bible trashing, which both, in my opinion gets way too much attention (just look at how long those threads are and the infighting that takes place)! This sort of topic, while less likely to be able to be proven, gets the neurons in the brain firing thus leading to a free flow of ideas and other possibilities, opinions, angles and theories to the actual destruction of the towers and WTC7! No one in our community (911 truth) and in the world of the sleeple know, exactly, how those buildings were demolished!

see i am all for ideas but disinformation or simply bs things i can't stand
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2009, 08:44:25 AM »

see i am all for ideas but disinformation or simply bs things i can't stand
Well that's all fine but your definition of when something is an idea or it's b.s. may not be someone elses definition! You ought to know that! Wink
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2009, 03:28:46 PM »

Tritium...

Also interesting were the tests for tritium. Which would show that fusion had occurred.

Laurence Livermore did the tests and tried to blame the tritium from the Exit signs , not very convincing... Also the tritium would decay quickly so delays in sampling would reduce the significance... plus the millions of gallons of water being poured on the site...

So is the father of the Neutron bomb lying for the government (saying that Red Mercury exists)?

Also there is the thought that the OKC bombing was fusion also...

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-19-05/discussion.cgi.23.html
almost positive the OKC blast was a mini nuke
Sat Feb 19, 2005 15:44
To make a directly related point, there was a source early on saying
that a nuke device was the actual source of explosive power that brought
down the Murrah Building. Nukes would be one of the most obvious
reasons for pouring yards and yards and yards of concrete into the
basement, THAT VERY NIGHT. Nukes would also be a KEY motive behind the
butcherous slaying of Officer Yeakey. Nukes would also be a very good
reason for keeping us distracted with misdirection plays as to who the
mystery "John Does" are. (As long as we chase rabbits, we don't focus
on the obvious.) Nukes would also be a very good reason for having that
dramatic rescue of those "known" explosive devices, while the victims
were allowed to suffer during that time. One of these days, we'll learn
that EVERYTHING we "see" is a very well planned misdirection play.
That's how the real magicians make their living.
...
Then, there isn't enough ammonium nitrate detected at the site to
indicate anything, but tritium is shown in large amounts. So they blow
the building down, scoop it up and bury it and guard it inside a fenced
compound with Wachenhut guards.





Search: wtc tritium


http://www.rense.com/general76/wtc.htm
911 Ground Zero Tritium Levels 55x Over Normal
Update On The Micro Nukes In The WTC


Verifying the Source of Tritium Levels 55 X the Normal Environmental Amount 
Certified Laboratory Testing of WTC Debris Currently In Progress.
 
In a collaborative effort between Author/Artist/Survivor/Patriot Janette MacKinlay, Physicist Dr. Bill Deagle, MD, and Dr. Ed Ward, MD, MT, WTC debris has been received by a Certified Laboratory for key tests which may show definitive origination for the massive Tritium Levels in the WTC buildings.
 
7.5 gms of WTC dust has been submitted to a Certified Laboratory for this specific ananlysis. The pending results are about half way through preparation and will be available in about 1 to 2 weeks. The single sample was extremely minimal for adequate sampling of the massive damage left in turning 3 buildings into steel and particles, but may be enough to give irrefutable support for the origination of Tritium Levels present in the WTC buildings and prove beyond any doubt there was a nuclear reaction in the WTC buildings.  Dr. Deagle should have the results by this Friday.

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
(University of California, University of California)
Year 2002 Paper LBNL-50782
Elevated tritium levels at the World Trade Center
http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1678&context=lbnl

Traces of tritiated water (HTO) were detected at [the]World Trade Center
(WTC) ground zero after the 9/11/01 terrorist attack. A method of ultralowbackground
liquid scintillation counting was used after distilling HTO from the
samples. A water sample from the WTC sewer, collected on 9/13/01, contained
0.174 plus or minus 0.074 (2s) nCi/L of HTO. A split water sample, collected
on 9/21/01 from the basement of WTC Building 6, contained 3.53 plus or
minus 0.17 and 2.83 plus or minus 0.15 nCi/L, respectively. Several water and
vegetation samples were analyzed from areas outside the ground zero, located
in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, and Kensico Reservoir. No HTO above the
background was found in those samples. All these results are well below the
levels of concern to human exposure.

Several tritium radioluminescent (RL) devices were investigated as possible sources of
the traces of tritium at ground zero. It was determined that [the]Boeing 767-222 aircraft
operated by the United Airlines that hit WTC Tower 2 as well as [the]Boeing 767-223ER
operated by the American Airlines, that hit WTC Tower 1, had a combined 34{.3} Ci of tritium
at the time of impact, contained in emergency signs. WTC hosted several law-enforcement
agencies such as ATF, CIA, US Secret Service and US Customs. The ATF office had two
weapon vaults in WTC Building 6. Also 63 Police Officers, possibly carrying handguns, died in
the attack. The weaponry containing tritium sights was therefore a likely and significant source
of tritium
. It is possible that some of the 2824 victims carried tritium watches, however this source appears to be less significant than the other two.

The fate of tritium in the attack depended on its chemistry. Any tritium present in the
vicinity of [the]jet-fuel explosion or fire would convert to HTO. The molecular tritium is also
known to quickly exchange with water adsorbed on surfaces at ambient temperatures. Therefore,
the end product of reacted tritium was HTO. A part of it would disperse into the atmosphere and
a part would remain on site. The dynamic aspect of HTO removal was investigated taking into
consideration water flow at ground zero. Most of ground zero is encircled by the Slurry Wall, 70
ft deep underground, called [the] Bathtub. Approximately three million gallons of water were
hosed on site in the fire-fighting efforts, and 1 million gallons fell as rainwater, between 9/11 and
9/21 (the day of the reported measurement). The combined water percolated through the debris
down to the bottom of the Bathtub dissolving and removing HTO with it. Th[is] water met and
combine[d] with the estimated 26 million gallons of water that leaked from the Hudson River, as
well as broken mains, during the same period of 10 days after the attack. The combined 30
million gallons of water {were} collect[ed] in the PATH train tunnel and [were] continuously
{being} pumped out to prevent flooding.
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2009, 03:34:39 PM »

The factual evidence ...indicates that our government is using and has used 3rd or possibly 4th generation hydrogen bombs domestically..
....and we're done.
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2009, 04:53:20 PM »

....not quiet yet!
I saw these buildings coming down, live on television and the first thing that came into my mind was Atomic Suitcase.
The Russians have them and the United States also.

Of course the development in these Atomic weapons have taken their leap.
But the public was not to be made aware of this, all confidential, hush - hush business, all under the U.S. Military Secrecy Act.

The huge Pyroclastic Flow is on itself already evidence of the use of energy inputting devices like explosives and Thermate a special kind of  Thermite for instance.
Also in the Thermite a lot of research had been done but there are not many high level specialist around.

The nature of pyroclastic flows only emerges in just two occasions.
One is Volcanic and the other is the use of Explosives.

In the 911 pyroclastic flows you can see that there is much energy inside them. Not only the velocity of the pyroclastic flows but the contain heat also.
A natural collapse could never have been the cause of these kinds of pyroclastic flows.
That's why I regard these photos very important evidence to the 911 case.

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Indeed the way the concrete was pulverized at least suggests a very powerful source but was it Nuclear of some sort?
I don't know I am not an expert on that erea but a came across steel beams in my life to know what's possible and what not.
Together with the cynical thought that these steel hardened beams where even sprayed by a layer of Asbestus to give them even more fire protection.
In fact asbestos became a highly forbidden product more recently but asbestos is known for it's fire protection capabilities for a long time.

And these are just a view aspects of the immensely amount of evidence of the use of explosive devices in the Twin Towers.

To be continued for sure....
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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2009, 05:39:41 PM »

Yes, this article was written by me in 2006.  It is entirely my referenced research and not the result of anyone telling me a story/stories.

Thanks for giving it exposure and eventually a link.

Here's the update for it.

http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

There are a series of articles involving over 1 year of research.

Google - "Ed Ward, MD"  Thermate, C4, Nukes Prove 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job or TCN&911WIJ.

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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2009, 05:48:16 PM »

BTW, 'red mercury' was a code name on the Russian Black market.  Highly doubtful they would use the real name of the material they were selling. Why would you buy it, when if you knew what it was, you could just make it.  Most likely 'red mercury' is Lithium 6 - a now known highly explosive material.  It is very similar to mercury - silver in color and gives a red hue when placed in elevated temperature.

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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2009, 06:07:03 PM »

The thing that jumped out at me is he said the towers were designed to withstand a hit from a 757. The problem is that there was no such thing when the towers were bullt. Not even the 747 esisted in those days. In fact they were only built to withstand a 707.
 but over all, I think were even a small nuclear device used, there would be far more devistation. It doesn't require a nuke to nessesarily melt or even vaporize some metals. Look at the results of an electricl arc over, it produces clouds of vaporized copper. and it certainly doesn't require a nuke to reduce a body to ash. also.

It is a correct statement.  If one looks at the mass and top velocity of each - the 757 and the 707 - linked in the article - energy produced by impact is basically equivalent.

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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2009, 06:10:32 PM »

the whole mini nukes is total dis info, sane addressed it earlier when some idiot tried derailing a thread and the whole first respoionders is because they knew the air quality was shit but still let them do all that thus the govt is responsible and is using donated money to pay for lawyers

That's interesting, because in more than 2 years, not one single referenced fact in my articles has been refuted on a scientific basis.
I'd be very interested in scientific referenced rebuttal.

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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2009, 06:18:42 PM »

Nuclear, mini-nuke, hydrogen bomb etc., doesn't seem to matter at this stage.

It does and it doesn't.  Since there will likely never be a real investigation nor action by the people - a work strike is the only thing that has ever worked on homeland fascist governments - the facts, based on Vialls excellent efforts and some other proven facts, indicate that most likely scenario that it was Israeli Dimona Nukes that were used.

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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2009, 06:24:01 PM »

Tritium...

Also interesting were the tests for tritium. Which would show that fusion had occurred.

Laurence Livermore did the tests and tried to blame the tritium from the Exit signs , not very convincing... Also the tritium would decay quickly so delays in sampling would reduce the significance... plus the millions of gallons of water being poured on the site...



This is also my article.  COUNTING THE DILUTION THERE WERE BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS PRESENT.  How much is 55 times background? IT'S EQUIVALENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL  TRITIUM LEVELS OF THE 60'S AFTER THEY EXPLODED HUNDREDS OF MEGATONs NUKES.

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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2009, 07:00:00 PM »

Yes, this article was written by me in 2006.  It is entirely my referenced research and not the result of anyone telling me a story/stories.

Thanks for giving it exposure and eventually a link.

Here's the update for it.

http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

There are a series of articles involving over 1 year of research.

Google - "Ed Ward, MD"  Thermate, C4, Nukes Prove 911 Was an Inside/Outside Job or TCN&911WIJ.

Thanks,

Ed

Not a problem, it took me a while to actually remember where I had seen it, otherwise I`d have posted it up in another thread on here.

Thanks for writing it btw. It took me 2 days to read all the links you posted in it, so God only knows how long it took you to compile it all.

How did you find out it was mentioned in this thread?
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Not a problem, it took me a while to actually remember where I had seen it, otherwise I`d have posted it up in another thread on here.

How did you find out it was mentioned in this thread?

Every once in a while, I google me to check on my articles.  This thread came up even though, not surprisingly, my name was not linked to it.  Thanks again for the link.  If you google me and 'finnish military expert' you will find the link to his articles - http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/military.htm

My Best to You and Yours,

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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2009, 07:10:28 PM »

Sorry about not name checking you, my bad.

The same to you and yours.


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Thanks for writing it btw. It took me 2 days to read all the links you posted in it, so God only knows how long it took you to compile it all.

So you were he one that took the links - grin.  LOL, most don't, but I like referenced facts over BS - Bogus Science.  Took over a month to write fetcing links, organizing, etc, it was an ominous task.  I started researching it right after I wrote "Bombs in the WTC Proves Nothing to Racist Fascist Bigots."  So I believe in total it was over 2 months of 14 to 18 hours a day.  I spent a solid year on all the articles regarding nukes in the WTC.  Most of the later ones deal with specifics of certain elements of proof.  

I figured that it would take about 2 to 3 days to research my links - helped me know BS replies.  IE, anyone that responded within a day - I knew they had not truely looked at the information - LOL most of my so called debunkers hadn't even read the article let alone taken the links.

Thanks for noting my efforts and actually using them.

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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2009, 07:24:12 PM »

Sorry about not name checking you, my bad.


Nothing to be sorry about.  You didn't post the information, BUT YOU DID POST THE LINK FOR IT.  YA' DONE GOOD.

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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2009, 07:44:12 PM »

So you were he one that took the links - grin.  LOL, most don't, but I like referenced facts over BS - Bogus Science.  Took over a month to write fetcing links, organizing, etc, it was an ominous task.  I started researching it right after I wrote "Bombs in the WTC Proves Nothing to Racist Fascist Bigots."  So I believe in total it was over 2 months of 14 to 18 hours a day.  I spent a solid year on all the articles regarding nukes in the WTC.  Most of the later ones deal with specifics of certain elements of proof.  

I figured that it would take about 2 to 3 days to research my links - helped me know BS replies.  IE, anyone that responded within a day - I knew they had not truely looked at the information - LOL most of my so called debunkers hadn't even read the article let alone taken the links.

Thanks for noting my efforts and actually using them.

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Wow.

Just been reading your update and you say you are looking for clearer video footage of the collapse, have you checked out this sites video vault?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=353.0

There are hi res videos and photographs of it all in there.
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2009, 07:45:24 PM »

As if by the power of magic, LetsBeReal posted his hi res pics as I was typing lol.
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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2009, 07:50:15 PM »

And here`s a link to hi res video footage from one of the threads in the video vault.

http://www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/05-02-05/discussion.cgi.43.html
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