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« on: January 20, 2009, 11:29:26 PM »

Tune in to Jack McClamb's show. There are claims floating that guilloteens are in Ft. Lewis Washington, and are to be used on Americans during martial law.

We need more information.... This needs to be exposed if it is true.

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 11:33:55 PM »

Today in history - The Times

On Jan. 21, 1793, during the French Revolution, King Louis XVI, condemned for treason, was executed on the guillotine.

 In 1790 Dr Joseph-Ignace Guillotin proposed the guillotine to the newly formed National Assembly of Paris as a “humane” method of execution.

For those of you who understand the 1313, october surprise, and other mystery babylon secrets, like the sun moving into aquarius yesterday on inuaguration day.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/court_and_social/article5555019.ece
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 11:36:50 PM »

Pam Schuffert Confirms Guillotines Stored at Fort Lewis

    By Pam Schuffert <truth-4-all@hotmail.com>
    http://educate-yourself.org/ps/confrimsguillotinesfortlewis28jun08.shtml
    June 28 2008

    Pam Schuffert Confirms Guillotines Stored at Fort Lewis (June 28, 2008)

    Sat, 28 Jun 2008
    From: Truth 4 All <truth-4-all@hotmail.com>
    To: Ken Adachi
    Subject: Please post this ASAP! THANKS!-Pam

    STAFF SERGEANT/ARMY RANGER/SPEC OPS MAN FROM FORT LEWIS WASHINGTON THAT I JUST MET WHILE TRAVELING FROM MONTANA TO NORTH CAROLINA REVEALS:

        'THE GUILLOTINES ARE REAL AND I WAS GOING TO TRAIN MY MEN IN MY PLATOON TO USE THEM NEXT WEEK IN HIGHLY CLASSIFIED OPERATIONS AT FORT LEWIS...UNTIL YOU TOLD ME 'THEY WILL BE USED ON YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS UNDER COMING MARTIAL LAW!''

    NOW he and the men who he told about my reporting, on HOW the guillotines will be used against their fellow Americans, ARE BEING ROUNDED UP AND HUNTED DOWN LIKE DOGS..

    Humvees and helicopters surrounging their homes...military pay and all access to bank accounts and credit cards being cut off...and NOW HE IS ON THE RUN! All because they found out the truth about MARTIAL LAW and the guillotines FROM ME and have agreed among themselves to NEVER GO ALONG WITH THIS TERRIBLE NWO AGENDA!

    -Pamela Schuffert reporting live from NORTH CAROLINA

    I was riding on a bus from BUTTE MONTANA to North Carolina, when I met a young man all dressed up in full and impressive ARMY RANGER uniform. He carried his 445 mag gun and many knives and several phones and military backpack and other equipment. He told me he was a STAFF SERGEANT from FORT LEWIS! Fort Lewis is where many MODERN GUILLOTINES have been stored for a long time, for use in martial law.

    I teased him at first and told him I knew all about the MODERN GUILLOTINES in Fort Lewis. HE WAS SHOCKED! He said, 'HOW DID YOU KNOW...THIS IS HIGHLY CLASSIFIED INFORMATION!' He then admitted he was a Christian. I told him that the US MILITARY WAS NOT TELLING THE YOUNG MEN LIKE HIM, but these guillotines will be used on AMERICANS AND CHRISTIANS in the future udner martial law, to behead all NWO resisters.

    The longer he listened, the angrier he got. Using a few choice expletives, he said, 'THEY NEVER TOLD US THIS WOULD BE USED ON AMERICANS UNDER MARTIAL LAW...to get RID of all CHRISTIANS and NWO RESISTERS! We THOUGHT they would be used in IRAQ or something!' He then asked me to tell him more and more. He even filmed me.

    Finally, so angry at how they were being deceived and brainwashed, he told me,

        'I WILL NEVER go along with this NWO agenda! I am A CHRISTIAN! I will contact my men in my platoon (64) and those I can trust who are Christians, I will tell them the TRUTH. I was supposed to go to Fort Hood for more SPECIAL OPS training next week, and THEN RETURN TO TRAIN MY MEN IN HOW TO OPERATE THESE GUILLOTINES!

        There is a special underground training center where the guillotines are...we are not allowed to bring in any cameras. cell phones, etc, because of HIGH SECURITY AND SILENCE regarding these guillotines.They are 6 and a half feet high, with hand restraints and a place for a person's head as they stand. We were going to use dummies for practice...BUT NOW I AM REFUSING THIS ASSIGNMENT and I will contact the men under me who I can trust...who will NOT go along with this NWO agenda and will come out instead with HUMVEES, WEAPONS and everything we can get our hands on to fight this NWO agenda!'

    We parted in Indianapolis...I wondered about the outcome. I was soon to find out! I called him the next day. He told me he talked to his sister and family and they were shocked...they were all military...they told him, 'HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS NWO MARTIAL LAW AGENDA...IT IS ALL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED!'

    When he told them about ME (I had given him a copy of my AIRMAN MAGAZINE in it with my famous USAF father's cartoon in it..he was quite amazed and impressed) he told me his USAF aunt would submit my name to USAF intelligence computers to see where I stood in the sight of the USAF. He told me, 'She said you are RED FLAGGED (subject to arrest and interrogation) and are classified by the USAF as A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY!' (ME???A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY??? ALL for telling AMERICA THE TRUTH about coming MARTIAL LAW!)

    This ARMY RANGER had told me that IF HE HAD BEEN ON THE SIDE OF THE NWO AGENDA, he was authorized as an ARMY RANGER with highest security clearance and much special ops training to MARCH ME OUTSIDE THE BUS AND SHOOT TO KILL for knowing this classified info...OR he could have called the nearest military base and had vehicles come to arrest me immiediately and take me away for interrogation and termination. THAT IS HOW CLASSIFIED MY INSIDE INVESTIGATING AND INFO REALLY IS! And YESTERDAY when I called him, he had even MORE shocking information for me.

        'I AM ON THE RUN NOW...they are trying to pick me up...and my USAF sister too! OUR PAY AND MILITARY SERVICE AND BANK ACCOUNTS HAVE ALL BEEN CLOSED OFF...we cannot access anything now! THEY ARE NOW ARRESTING HALF THE MEN IN MY PLATOON...men I talked to who agreed that THEY WOULD NEVER GO ALONG WITH A NWO MARTIAL LAW AGENDA...all THEIR pay and service and bank accounts have been cut off from them now too....military helicopters and humvees are surrounding their homes..they are being watched and picked up one by one...one man in my platoon defended himself when they broke into his home, SHOOTING FIVE MILITARY SOLDERS TRYING TO TAKE HIM in the process ( some were killed) before they were able to arrest him! We are on the run now, my sister and I...they are after us too.....'

    I am actively now on the phone with Staff Sergeant Donnie. His aunt who ran my name through USAF computers is now being questioned by USAF authorities. I am SURE they are angry with ME right now as well! They may be searching for me at this time as well....with this military scandal breaking and ME in the middle of it!

    GET THIS WORD OUT TO EVERYONE! These brave military men are paying the highest price to say THEY WILL NEVER GO ALONG WITH THIS NWO MILITARY AGENDA to kill innocent Americans and to destroy our Constitution and our freedoms and people of faith and character in our nation. PRAY for Staff Sergeant DONNIE BOYSEL and his sister NOW and for the men they are now hunting down like dogs...to be interogated and KILLED! PRAY ALSO FOR ME! I may be picked up soon for my role in this military scandal.

    PRAY FOR THE MERCY OF JESUS to preserve me through all this! FORWARD THIS BREAKING NEWS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST! And NOW YOU KNOW....the GUILLOTINES ARE REAL! (Revelation 20:4) He told me they ARE EVERYWHERE...in FORT HOOD, FORT BRAGG, FORT LEWIS..in ALL the US MILITARY BASES including GERMANY where he was stationed... (yes Europeans will be beheaded for their faith as well in the NEW WORLD ORDER!) PASS THIS ON AND PRAY FOR ME, FOR DONNIE AND HIS CHRISTIAN MEN THEY ARE HUNTING DOWN FROM FORT LEWIS! -Pamela Schuffert reporting LIVE from across the nation


    "It is now TIME for the Christians of USA/CANADA to PREPARE for the COMING CRISIS. It will NOT be without PERSECUTION, TESTING and BLOODSHED. I dare say, in fact, that it is TIME for the Christians of North America to PREPARE FOR MARTYRDOM for their faith. END TIME BIBLE PROPHECY is about to unfold in this nation as NEVER BEFORE...and I can prove it!" -
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 11:37:42 PM »

Alex, if you are reading this. You NEED to mention this on the show.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 12:05:48 AM »

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

(Revelation of John 20:4, KJV)
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 12:15:37 AM »




  I wouldn't mind being beheaded by a guilloteen.  The thing that would bother me is to watch family members beheaded.  You know that's what the scum would do. 

  Thanks be to God for the scripture---and they lived and reigned with Christ.
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 02:11:57 AM »



  I wouldn't mind being beheaded by a guilloteen.  The thing that would bother me is to watch family members beheaded.  You know that's what the scum would do. 

  Thanks be to God for the scripture---and they lived and reigned with Christ.


I would rather die fighting  taking a few of the NWO scum with me .  a guilloteen lops off the head and for up to two minutes you may still have brain function .  think about that.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 02:23:20 AM »

I remember in middle school my friends and I widdled away our "free time" debating how long you would keep conscious after being behead by a guillotine. I guess maybe we will soon find out. (In retrospect I was a pretty screwed up kid, hindsight 20/20 and all.)
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 02:34:30 AM »

Regarding how long you remain conscious after being beheaded, check this out. A fascinating (and chilling) read.

Regarding that Pam Shuffert story... sounds like absolute BS. It reads like it's written by a deranged person with an over-active imagination...
Sorry to whoever wrote it but try harder next time.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 02:36:50 AM »

Regarding how long you remain conscious after being beheaded, check this out. A fascinating (and chilling) read.

Regarding that Pam Shuffert story... sounds like absolute BS. It reads like it's written by a deranged person with an over-active imagination...
Sorry to whoever wrote it but try harder next time.

They make mock children sacrifices to their Molech god do you think beheadings are that far off after all the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan ?
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 02:51:04 AM »

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

(Revelation of John 20:4, KJV)

And after the thousand years  Huh
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 02:58:38 AM »

And after the thousand years  Huh

 7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

 2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

 3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

 6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

 7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

 10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

 11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

 12And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

 13On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

 14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

 15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

 16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

 17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

 18And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

 19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

 20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

 21And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

 22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

 23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

 24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

 25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

 26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

 27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

 2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

 3And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

 4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

 5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

 6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

 7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

 8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

 9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

 10And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

 11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

 12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

 17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

 18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

 21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 03:01:19 AM »

And after the thousand years  Huh

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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2009, 03:07:56 AM »

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I was riding on a bus from BUTTE MONTANA to North Carolina, when I met a young man all dressed up in full and impressive ARMY RANGER uniform. He carried his 445 mag gun and many knives and several phones and military backpack and other equipment. He told me he was a STAFF SERGEANT from FORT LEWIS! Fort Lewis is where many MODERN GUILLOTINES have been stored for a long time, for use in martial law.

Why would this guy, before running, be on a bus in full class-A's, with a GUN and other weapons and gear. That just doesn't make any sense. I mean hes carrying a gun in broad daylight? They wouldnt let him on the bus. I would like some other confirmation of the story than just this one.
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2009, 03:08:16 AM »

1 Corinthians 15:24-26


And what does that say?
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 03:47:22 AM »

And what does that say?

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 05:44:13 AM »

This was easier.  Tongue

1 Corinthians 15:24-26
24 - Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 - For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 - The last enemy to be destroyed is death.


So that would mean that the human race would no longer exist on Earth after such time?

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 05:59:35 AM »

They make mock children sacrifices to their Molech god do you think beheadings are that far off after all the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan ?

That they wish to kill us all I don't doubt... I'm referring to the story posted above.

In between ALL the CAPITALISED words, it REEKS of a STRONG NAIVETÉ that just SEEMS out of PLACE.
I TOLD him all about the NWO and then HE was like all "OMG THANK YOU FOR ENLIGTHENING ME NOW BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU JUST TOLD ME I'M GIVING UP EVERYTHING AND TOTALLY BELIEVE YOU AND ALSO THEY'RE ALL AFTER ME!!1!"
THAT and all the CHRISTIAN BibleBABBLE...

It's not credible at all.

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Why would this guy, before running, be on a bus in full class-A's, with a GUN and other weapons and gear. That just doesn't make any sense. I mean hes carrying a gun in broad daylight? They wouldnt let him on the bus. I would like some other confirmation of the story than just this one.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 06:20:50 AM »

Yes, If someone would look at ritual murder as sacrifice in martyrdom they might as well stfu about suicide bombers. When have we ever seen a believer strap on C4 and take down an abortion clinic? No, they want us to stay calm and keep buying and using credit and reading about the "end" aka world pass us by.
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This old urban legend is still floating around? wow. I remember this from like 12 years ago. Seems I remember these "guilloteens" turned out to be paper cutters. gonna look around abit and see if I can't dig it up.
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2009, 07:00:04 AM »

Seems logical to me.

New World Order hell bent on control & lust for human blood using guillotines....reserved for high profile targets at public executions which will make it's way back I'm betting.

Hangings, shootings and gas chambers just don't bring out the crowds unlike a good beheading..  Embarrassed
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2009, 07:14:26 AM »

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Georgia: Bill to replace electric chair with guillotine

Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state's electric chair with the guillotine. Teper's reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as organ donors, he says, since the "Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact."

 In 1995, a move to replace the electric chair with lethal injection (poisoning) failed in Georgia's assembly because legislators feared that prisoners could argue for a new sentencing hearing if the state changed the law.

 The Guillotine, invented by the French Dr. Guillotine, was mainly used in the 18th and 19th century and chops off a person's head. It hasn't been used for decades in any country on this planet.

 [March 5, 1996; based upon news report]

Watcher comments: There is a group of lawmakers out there who think chopping people's heads off is a good idea. Criminals are a good first step in acclimating the public to the spectacle of death by beheading. The practical application of "organ donation" is a good excuse to implement guillotine production. By the time the antichrist takes control, there should be some very skilled guillotine craftsman out there, and the infrastructure for transporting such apparatus will be fully in place. Isn't that convenient?
Read the Chilling Proposition from Teper et.

HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions


SECTION 1.

  1- 8  The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to
  1- 9  death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for
  1-10  transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that
  1-11  electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for
  1-12  transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting
  1-13  this legislation is to provide for a method of execution
  1-14  which is compatible with the donation of organs by a
  1-15  condemned prisoner.

                         SECTION 2.

  1-16  Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of
  1-17  Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally,
  1-18  is amended by striking in its entirety Code Section
  1-19  17-10-38, relating to death sentences generally, and
  1-20  inserting in lieu thereof the following:

  1-21    "17-10-38. (Index)

  1-22    (a) All persons who have been convicted of a capital
  1-23    offense and have had imposed upon them a sentence of death
  1-24    shall, at the election of the condemned, suffer such
  1-25    punishment either by electrocution or by guillotine.   If
  1-26    the condemned fails to make an election by the thirtieth
  1-27    day preceding the date scheduled for execution, punishment
  1-28    shall be by electrocution.

  1-29    (b) In all cases in which the defendant is sentenced to be
  1-30    electrocuted executed, it shall be the duty of the trial
  1-31    judge in passing sentence to direct that the defendant be
 

                                 -1- (Index)

                                                  LC 21 3643

  2- 1    delivered to the Department of Corrections for
  2- 2    electrocution execution at a state correctional
  2- 3    institution designated by the department."

                         SECTION 3.

  2- 4  Said article is further amended by striking in its entirety
  2- 5  Code Section 17-10-44, relating to death chamber apparatus
  2- 6  and related matters, and inserting in lieu thereof the
  2- 7  following:

  2- 8    "17-10-44. (Index)

  2- 9    The Department of Corrections shall provide a death
  2-10    chamber and all necessary apparatus, machinery, and
  2-11    appliances for inflicting the penalty of death by
  2-12    electrocution or by guillotine."
http://web.archive.org/web/20020213222816/http://hardtruth.topcities.com/georgia_bill_guillotine.htmGeorgia House of Representatives - 1995/1996 Sessions
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions
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Georgia: Bill to replace electric chair with guillotine

Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state's electric chair with the guillotine. Teper's reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as organ donors, he says, since the "Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact."

 In 1995, a move to replace the electric chair with lethal injection (poisoning) failed in Georgia's assembly because legislators feared that prisoners could argue for a new sentencing hearing if the state changed the law.

 The Guillotine, invented by the French Dr. Guillotine, was mainly used in the 18th and 19th century and chops off a person's head. It hasn't been used for decades in any country on this planet.

 [March 5, 1996; based upon news report]

Watcher comments: There is a group of lawmakers out there who think chopping people's heads off is a good idea. Criminals are a good first step in acclimating the public to the spectacle of death by beheading. The practical application of "organ donation" is a good excuse to implement guillotine production. By the time the antichrist takes control, there should be some very skilled guillotine craftsman out there, and the infrastructure for transporting such apparatus will be fully in place. Isn't that convenient?
Read the Chilling Proposition from Teper et.

HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions


SECTION 1.

  1- 8  The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to
  1- 9  death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for
  1-10  transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that
  1-11  electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for
  1-12  transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting
  1-13  this legislation is to provide for a method of execution
  1-14  which is compatible with the donation of organs by a
  1-15  condemned prisoner.

                         SECTION 2.

  1-16  Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of
  1-17  Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally,
  1-18  is amended by striking in its entirety Code Section
  1-19  17-10-38, relating to death sentences generally, and
  1-20  inserting in lieu thereof the following:

  1-21    "17-10-38. (Index)

  1-22    (a) All persons who have been convicted of a capital
  1-23    offense and have had imposed upon them a sentence of death
  1-24    shall, at the election of the condemned, suffer such
  1-25    punishment either by electrocution or by guillotine.   If
  1-26    the condemned fails to make an election by the thirtieth
  1-27    day preceding the date scheduled for execution, punishment
  1-28    shall be by electrocution.

  1-29    (b) In all cases in which the defendant is sentenced to be
  1-30    electrocuted executed, it shall be the duty of the trial
  1-31    judge in passing sentence to direct that the defendant be
 

                                 -1- (Index)

                                                  LC 21 3643

  2- 1    delivered to the Department of Corrections for
  2- 2    electrocution execution at a state correctional
  2- 3    institution designated by the department."

                         SECTION 3.

  2- 4  Said article is further amended by striking in its entirety
  2- 5  Code Section 17-10-44, relating to death chamber apparatus
  2- 6  and related matters, and inserting in lieu thereof the
  2- 7  following:

  2- 8    "17-10-44. (Index)

  2- 9    The Department of Corrections shall provide a death
  2-10    chamber and all necessary apparatus, machinery, and
  2-11    appliances for inflicting the penalty of death by
  2-12    electrocution or by guillotine."
http://web.archive.org/web/20020213222816/http://hardtruth.topcities.com/georgia_bill_guillotine.htmGeorgia House of Representatives - 1995/1996 Sessions
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions

Wow, now we just need roving organ donor vans.
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2009, 12:09:47 AM »

Well it should remind us that States do not have the right to take anyones life ( except in self defence ).

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2009, 01:34:47 AM »

God help us!  We are in evil times.
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2009, 01:42:23 AM »

What troubles me is that it seems just too...inefficient for these people...5,000 people waiting in line to be executed 1 or say 5 at a time per day by guillotine...or go with gas showers and keep the trains on chugging along I think would do it. Yes we can!  ...then again maybe the really special people get the guillotine.
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2009, 02:11:18 AM »

this story sounds like complete and utter disinfo to me.
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2009, 03:40:26 AM »

this story sounds like complete and utter disinfo to me.
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............................................................................How?

Because something just doesn't seem right, especially with that lady Pams story about the staff sgt in the Army.  I just cant put my finger on it, i just dont find it credible. 
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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2009, 04:44:56 AM »

The use of them seems credible for the immediate future.

Public executions is right out of the Orwellian textbook.
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2009, 08:43:39 AM »

Why would this guy, before running, be on a bus in full class-A's, with a GUN and other weapons and gear. That just doesn't make any sense. I mean hes carrying a gun in broad daylight? They wouldnt let him on the bus. I would like some other confirmation of the story than just this one.

Dok, I questioned that as well.  I have researched to see if an Army Ranger could wear his sidearm in the general public and I cannot find anything except if they are in full dress for a funeral.

I am curious, for the credibility of this story whether or not anyone in the military is allowed to carry a sidearm outside of a Military Base.

Also I would think it would be prohibited with The Posse Comitatus Act but I could be wrong?


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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2009, 08:48:06 AM »

not guillotines, industrial paper cutters, also sometimes refered to as guillotines. This is a WAAAAAY old urban legend.
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2009, 08:57:36 AM »

I think the article is BS for the very reasons the Doc mentioned above. The caps didn't help either.
However, I have no doubt they might use such a method. I just don't buy the article.
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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2009, 12:52:20 PM »

Dok, I questioned that as well.  I have researched to see if an Army Ranger could wear his sidearm in the general public and I cannot find anything except if they are in full dress for a funeral.

I am curious, for the credibility of this story whether or not anyone in the military is allowed to carry a sidearm outside of a Military Base.

Also I would think it would be prohibited with The Posse Comitatus Act but I could be wrong?




No one is allowed to carry a side arm on or off post that is not involved in drills. The exception are MP's as they are a police force. As for funerals, i was part of a funeral detail, when i served. No side arms are allowed. Just the M-16 with blanks and they are under lock and key guarded at all times during transport. Ive thought a lot about this article over the last couple of days. It could of been a private weapon as he was transferring from one base to the next. I just dont see him carrying it with him on a bus. It would have been locked in the travel compartment. Many military people still use the bus.

What we need is more information. All we have is this ladys article to go by. I personally believe we have guiliotines stored somewhere, and the History channel last year ran a story on them and how to make them. Apparently the art was lost as they went out of use.
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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2009, 10:15:08 AM »

Thanks Dok and burlguy--I wasn't sure if military personnel were allowed to have their sidearms in public.  So, that does discredit the story now.
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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2009, 11:41:21 AM »

Heard Officer Jack today; couldn't help but notice a change in his tone, as in 'it's coming down now'. I believe him.
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2009, 11:52:22 AM »

I don't know if I believe in the guillotines or not. That just sounds so.....revelation-ish.  Undecided
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« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2009, 12:00:32 PM »

I don't know if I believe in the guillotines or not. That just sounds so.....revelation-ish.  Undecided

yes but remember they can read the bible too. wouldn't surprise me. but guillotines, needle nose pliers, food, etc. - make a difference?

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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2009, 12:09:23 PM »

Yes, but I think that most people would see it as archaic....remember what aldous huxley said: (paraphrasing here, sorry)
"I think the "Brave New World" model is (more effective than) the "1984" model, because, unlike the methods of terror (in "1984"), this model combines methods of terror along with methods of acceptance....to get people actually, to LOVE their servitude. THESE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE..."

They're gonna make the camps look like "happy fun time centers"....I doubt any guillotines will be involved, at least not for the first few years.
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