What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern

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What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« on: January 19, 2009, 05:30:10 AM »
What's CIA director Hayden hidin'?  

18/01/2009 02:30:00 PM GMT

(abc.net.au) Hayden has loudly bragged about the crimes in which he was directly involved.
Hayden has loudly bragged about the crimes in which he was directly involved, and defended others.

By Ray McGovern  

Outgoing CIA Director Michael Hayden is going around town telling folks he has warned President-elect Barack Obama “personally and forcefully” that if Obama authorizes an investigation into controversial activities like waterboarding, “no one in Langley will ever take a risk again.”

Upon learning this from what we former intelligence officers used to call an “A-1 source” (completely reliable with excellent access to the information), the thought that came to me in the face of such chutzpah was from Cicero’s livid oration against the Roman usurper Cataline: “Quousque, tandem, abutere, Catalina, patientia nostra!” — or “How long, at last, O Cataline, will you abuse our patience!”

Cicero had had enough. And so, apparently, has Obama, who has been confirmed once again of the wisdom of his vote against Hayden’s becoming CIA director.

It was striking that Obama did not even mention Hayden on Jan. 9, when the President-elect formally named Leon Panetta as his choice to run the CIA and Dennis Blair to be director of national intelligence.

Obama did announce that Mike McConnell, whom Blair will replace after he is confirmed, has been given a sinecure/consolation prize — a seat on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. Hayden, an Air Force general, should be given a seat in the military prison in Leavenworth (see below).

It is not only a bit cheeky, but more than a little disingenuous that Hayden should think to advise Obama “personally and forcefully” against investigating illegal activities authorized by President George W. Bush, since Hayden himself might already be described as an unindicted co-conspirator based on publicly available information.

Hayden has loudly bragged about the crimes in which he was directly involved, and defended others, like what he has called “high-end” interrogation techniques — waterboarding, for example.

Could it be clearer? “Waterboarding is torture,” said President-elect Obama last Sunday to George Stephanopoulos. Torture is a crime. Obama added, twice, that no one is “above the law,” although also citing his “belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backward.”

Despite the President-elect’s equivocations, it seems that President Bush and the current CIA director may have a problem. And apparently Hayden’s palms are sweaty enough to warrant, in his view, a thinly veiled threat.

In the outrage category, that threat/warning goes well beyond chutzpah. What an insult to my former colleagues at the CIA to suggest that they lack the integrity to fulfill their important duties in consonance with the law; that they would treat the new President like a substitute teacher!

Assessing Hayden
“Should have been court-martialed” was the judgment of the late Gen. Bill Odom about Hayden when Odom was interviewed on Jan. 4, 2006 by George Kenney, a former Foreign Service officer and now producer of “Electronic Politics.” And President Bush “should be impeached,” added Odom with equal fury.

Odom ruled out discussing during the interview the warrantless eavesdropping that had been revealed by the New York Times just a few weeks earlier. In a memorandum about the conversation, Kenney opined that Odom appeared so angry that he realized that if he started discussing the still-classified issue, he would not be able to control himself.

Why was Gen. Odom so angry?

Because he, like all uniformed officers, took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; because he took that oath seriously; and because, as head of the National Security Agency from 1985 to 1988, he did his best to ensure that all employees strictly observed NSA’s “first commandment”—Thou Shalt Not Eavesdrop on Americans Without a Court Warrant.

Also disappointed was former NSA Director Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who led NSA from 1977 to 1981 and was one of the country’s most highly respected senior managers of intelligence and an author of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978.

At a public discussion at the New York Public Library on May 8, 2006, Inman took strong issue with Hayden’s flouting of FISA:

“There clearly was a line in the FISA statutes which says you couldn’t do this,” said Inman. He went on to call specific attention to an “extra sentence put in the bill that said, ‘You can’t do anything that is not authorized by this bill.’”

Inman spoke proudly of the earlier ethos at NSA, where “it was deeply ingrained that you operate within the law and you get the law changed if you need to.”

Hayden the martinet
In contrast, Michael Hayden, who was NSA director from 1999 to 2005, chose to salute when ordered by Vice President Dick Cheney to create and implement an aggressive NSA program skirting the strict legal restrictions of FISA.

Hayden then proceeded to do the White House’s bidding in conning the invertebrates posing as leaders of the Senate and House intelligence “oversight” (more accurately—“overlook”) committees.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller is a sorry example of the fox co-opted by the hens. There is precious little the administration and intelligence community did not get away with under his feckless tutelage of the Senate intelligence overlook committee.

For a discussion of how politicians like Rockefeller and other intelligence “overseers” work hand-in-hand with the folks they are supposed to be overseeing, see “Jay Rockefeller Awarded Intelligence Public Service Medal: For Telecom and Torture Immunity?”

Rockefeller famously sent a handwritten note to Cheney expressing some misgivings about warrantless eavesdropping, but then misplaced the copy he had squirreled away in his safe.

Cheney ridiculed him recently on TV, revealing that Rockefeller recently asked him if he could please make him another copy and send it to him.

In December 2005, when the NSA program of warrantless eavesdropping hit the press, Hayden agreed to play point man on handling the smoke and mirrors. Small wonder that the White House later deemed him the perfect man to head the CIA.

A whiff of conscience showed through during Hayden’s nomination hearing, though, when he flubbed the answer to what was supposed to be a soft, fat pitch from administration loyalist, Sen. Kit Bond, R-Missouri, now vice-chair of the Senate intelligence overlook committee:

“Did you believe that your primary responsibility as director of NSA was to execute a program that your NSA lawyers, the Justice Department lawyers, and White House officials all told you was legal, and that you were ordered to carry it out by the President of the United States?”

Instead of the simple “Yes” that had been scripted, Hayden paused and spoke rather poignantly — and revealingly:

“I had to make this personal decision in early October 2001, and it was a personal decision...I could not not do this.”

Why should it have been such an enormous personal decision whether or not to obey a White House order? No one asked Hayden, but it requires no particular acuity to figure it out.

This is a military officer who, like the rest of us, swore to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; a military man well aware that one must never obey an unlawful order; and an NSA director totally familiar with the FISA restrictions.

That, it seems clear, is why Hayden found it a difficult personal decision.

Did the new, post-9/11 “paradigm” – created by then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and Cheney’s lawyer David Addington – trump the Constitution?

Was not illegal electronic surveillance a key part of the second article of impeachment against President Richard Nixon, approved by a 28 to 10 bipartisan House Judiciary Committee vote less than two weeks before Nixon resigned?

No American, save perhaps Admiral Inman and Gen. Odom, knew the FISA law better than Hayden. Nonetheless, in his testimony, Hayden conceded that he did not even require a written legal opinion from NSA lawyers as to whether the new, post-9/11 comprehensive surveillance program, to be implemented without court warrants and without adequate consultation in Congress, could pass the smell test.

Hayden said he sought an oral opinion from then-NSA general counsel Robert L. Deitz, whom Hayden has now brought over to CIA as a “trusted aide.”

In the fall of 2007, Hayden launched Deitz on an investigation of the CIA’s own statutory Inspector General, who had made the mistake of being too diligent in investigating abuses like torture. Enough said.

Hayden comfortable with torture
As the Senate Armed Services Committee has now confirmed, President Bush, by executive order of Feb. 7, 2002, gave carte blanche to torture. That was four years before Hayden was confirmed as CIA director.

But when asked to be chief apologist for abusive torture techniques, Hayden again saluted. And after nearly two years as chief of CIA, Hayden confirmed (on Feb. 5, 2008) that, in 2002-03, “9/11 mastermind” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and two other “high-value” detainees had been waterboarded.

Waterboarding, an extreme form of interrogation going back at least as far as the Spanish Inquisition, has been condemned as torture by just about everyone — except the legal experts of the Bush administration, including Attorney General Michael Mukasey, who is still having trouble making up his mind on this issue — for reasons that should be abundantly clear.

Oddly, Mukasey is on record as saying that waterboarding would be torture if applied to him. And National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell told Lawrence Wright of the New Yorker magazine, “Whether it is torture by anybody else’s definition, for me it would be torture.”

McConnell then let the cat out of Mukasey’s bag, saying, “If it is ever determined to be torture, there will be a huge penalty to be paid for anyone engaging in it.”

It is a safe bet that this would be an extreme embarrassment, at least, for anyone in charge of an agency engaged in torture. Small wonder that Hayden has now summoned the chutzpah to warn the incoming President against launching an investigation into such matters.

Former CIA head George “we-do-not-torture” Tenet who – with the President’s Feb. 7, 2002, executive order in hand – was responsible for implementing torture policies, has evidenced some unease regarding the possibility that he might be held to account for taking liberties with national and international law.

Tenet included these telling sentences in his memoir:

“We were asking for and we would be given as many authorities as CIA ever had. Things could blow up. People, me among them, could end up spending some of the worst days of our lives justifying before congressional overseers our new freedom to act.” (At the Center of the Storm, p. 177-178)

Protesting too much
As the torture revelations piled up, Hayden again went front and center defending waterboarding and offering pitiable excuses for the destruction of tapes of the interrogation of high-value detainees, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

On Fox News last June, for example, Hayden insisted that after 9/11, “it was the collective judgment of the American government that these techniques would be appropriate and lawful,” including waterboarding, which he referred to as a “high-end interrogation technique.”

Hayden protested, “Now, if you ask me was it lawful, the answer is absolutely.”

He went on to explain, “Literally thousands of Americans” have been waterboarded in training, and he suggested that this experience provided “a body of knowledge as to what the transient and permanent effects would be.”

Hayden made it clear that he was prepared to instruct his torturers to waterboard again, if the President ordered it.

Never mind that all those folks waterboarded in training knew it would stop as soon as they cried Uncle; never mind that the “technique” is among the most iconic and notorious forms of torture, for which American officers as well as Japanese and Germans have been prosecuted and convicted; never mind Hayden’s dubious claims that valuable intelligence has been gotten through waterboarding.

And never mind the crystal-clear observation made on Sept. 6, 2006, by Lt. Gen. John Kimmons, head of U.S. Army intelligence: “No good intelligence is going to come from abusive practices. I think history tells us that. I think the empirical evidence of the last five years, hard years, tells us that.”

Chalk it up to my bias — and my experience as an Army intelligence officer — but I’ll take Kimmons’s word over any blue-suited desk jockey — no matter how many stars on the shoulder of the latter.

Sanctimonious Sam
What brings up Cicero’s outrage again is the aura of sanctity with which Michael Hayden has attempted to envelop himself. His blind fealty in implementing and then defending the administration’s defiance of the law on eavesdropping made him well qualified, in the administration’s eyes, for the job of CIA director.

And Hayden gave every evidence of eagerness to be in charge of waterboarding and other “high-end” interrogation techniques.

Hayden likes to brag about his moral training and Catholic credentials. At his nomination hearing, for example, he noted that he was the beneficiary of 18 years of Catholic education.

That set me to counting my own years of Catholic education — only 17. Seems I missed the course on “Ethical High-End Interrogation Techniques.”

The sooner Hayden is gone (likely to join the Fawning Corporate Media channels as an expert commentator, and to warm some seats on defense-industry corporate boards) the better. His credentials would appear quite good for that kind of work.

Quousque, tandem, abutere, Hayden, patientia nostra!

-- Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He was a CIA analyst for 27 years and is on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

-- Middle East Online

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 01:20:17 AM »

Brigadier Gen. Michael Hayden (left, with glasses), US Marine Corps Gen. David Mize (front and center), and US Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Edward Hanlon Jr. (behind Mize) in Gornji Vakuf, Bosnia, on September 4, 1994. [Source: Paul Harris] (click image to enlarge)

Early September 1994: US Military Begins Advising and Assisting Bosnian Muslim Army

US ambassador Charles Thomas; Assistant Secretary of State for Europe Richard Holbrooke, his deputy Robert Frasure, head of intelligence for US European Command Brigadier Gen. Michael Hayden, US Air Force Gen. Charles Boyd, US Marine Corps Gen. David Mize, and US Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Edward Hanlon Jr., meet with the Muslim Bosnian army commander for Central Bosnia, Mehmet Alagic, in the town of Gornji Vakuf.
The US group also visits Mostar, which is also controlled by the Bosnian Muslims. The Pentagon claims the US diplomats are there to familiarize themselves with the situation on the ground and the generals “just happened to be along,” but in appears in fact these meetings are part of a US effort to help the Croats and Muslims work together in upcoming offensives.

Following this visit, US “logistics advisers” move into key locations throughout Bosnia, including the UN-controlled Tuzla airport. US Special Forces help build a secret airstrip in Visoko, central Bosnia, to land heavy transport aircraft (see Late 1994-Late 1995), and mysterious flights begin arriving at the Tuzla airports a few months later (see February-March 1995). [Observer, 11/20/1994; Scotsman, 12/3/1995]

Hayden will later become head of the NSA and then head of the CIA.
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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2009, 10:35:02 AM »

This man is a sadistic, mind bent, sociopath. To include him as a human being is to slander and disgrace humanity.
Level, Hayden-Kissinger-Bushburger-Rice- Rumsfled- etc.
Genocidal freaks each and every one.

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2009, 10:48:22 AM »
Ray McGovern is a true American Patriot. I sure hope he beats his Jack Rubyitis.

This is one guy I would love to see head the CIA or Homeland.

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2009, 05:28:35 PM »
The Tuzla airport brings up the whole Ron Brown thing... Oh remember 9 days before the Ron Brown crash  Hillary and Chelsea fly thru... Did Hayden have a hand in this too?


Hillary, Why Did You Go To Bosnia In The First Place?
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Above: Mountain side crash site of Ron Brown plane

As has become painfully normative, Hillary, the major media ask you all the wrong questions.

The current controversy centers on whether you and your daughter Chelsea actually had to dodge sniper fire upon your landing at the airport in Tuzla in Bosnia on March 25,1996.

The photographic evidence seems to suggest otherwise. But sniper fire or not, as you and I both know, this really was risky business.

As testament to how dangerous trips in and out of Bosnia could be, just nine days later, another U.S. Air Force plane carrying American officials took off from that same Tuzla airport and crashed “inexplicably” near the Croatian-Bosnian border.

The crash killed all 35 people on board. Risky indeed! NATO command center would warn helicopter pilots searching for the downed aircraft to steer clear of active SA-6 surface-to-air missile sites within the Bosnian borders.

You understood the risk. In your memoir, Living History, you tell how you and Chelsea had to wear flak jackets and sit in a reinforced cockpit in case of snipers or ground-to-air missiles, and there is no reason to doubt you.

The right question, Hillary, is not whether this trip was dangerous—it clearly was--but why you took Chelsea on such a trip in the first place.

According to your schedule, you spent no more than nine hours in country, did little of consequence while there, and yet exposed Chelsea to considerable risk both coming and going.

At the time, you told the press that you wanted “to visit our troops and to say ‘Thank you.’” The White House even made a point of noting that “no first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt has made a trip into such a hostile military environment.”

In Living History, you offered a more nuanced reason for your visit: “The administration wanted to send a strong signal that the peace accords were to be honored and would be enforced.”

You also anticipated the question of why you and Bill would willingly put your 16 year-old in harm’s way. Your answer: the experience would help Chelsea “mature.” As the father of two daughters, I don’t buy that.

I have a nagging suspicion that there was something more involved, and it likely involves the fate of the lead official killed on that doomed flight out of Tuzla on April 3, nine days later.

That official, of course, was Bill’s beleaguered and increasingly desperate Secretary of Commerce, Ron Brown, the classic “man who knew too much.”

In the way of background, when I accepted the commission to write the book, Ron Brown’s Body, the publishers agreed to live with the possibility that the Brown plane crash was an accident.

I had presumed it was either that or a terrorist incident whose investigation was corrupted for political reasons—as happened occasionally in the run up to the 1996 election.

In this case, as you recall, Bill had sent Brown to Croatia to broker a sweetheart deal between the neo-fascist Croatian president, Franjo Tudjman, and an American corporation much-favored during your White House years, Enron. Remember them?

As you know, Hillary, the crash spawned more than a few conspiracy theories, some of which I was able to disprove, like the involvement of U.S. Special Forces or the murder of a surviving Air Force flight attendant.

Some facts, however, refused to go away, including the skullduggery of Croatian intelligence, headed at the time by Tudjman’s son, Miroslav.

Best evidence suggests that Croatian intelligence agents lured the plane into a mountainside through the use of a rogue beacon and then diverted NATO search and rescue operations over the Adriatic for at least four hours.

In the interim, these agents found the wreckage and administered a final coup de grace to Brown’s otherwise intact body—the very real hole in the top of his head, likely a bullet hole.

As it happens, airport aviation manager Nike Jerkuic had been “off” the day the plane crashed. Three days later, the day before USAF investigators were scheduled to talk to him, Jerkuic showed up dead with a bullet hole in his chest. Croatian authorities called Jerkuic’s death a “suicide.”

Our media chose not to investigate Jerkuic’s death or Brown’s or the Enron connection for that matter. Remember, they were on your side back then and the Croats’ as well.

Both you and the Croats had also gotten a pass from the media just months earlier, in August 1995, when Croatian forces ethnically cleansed the Krajina area of its Serbian population.

Within a matter of days, as you recall, the Croats drove more than 200,000 Serbs from their homes and killed some 14,000 Serbian civilians. According to a UN official “Almost the only people remaining were the dead and the dying.”

Unfortunately, Hillary, you guys had your hand in this, tactically and strategically. The White House gave the Croats the green light, as did Peter Galbraith, your ambassador to Croatia.

“Tudjman can do only what the Americans allow him to do,” said Stipe Mesic, a prominent Croatian politician of the era. “Krajina is the reward for having accepted, under Washington’s pressure, the federation between Croats and Muslims in Bosnia.”

Still, as rough as the Croats could be, they had absolutely no motive for killing Ron Brown. Tudjman, as the man said, could do only what the Americans allowed him to do.

Even if Tudjman did have personal reasons to cooperate--he was suffering from cancer and likely facing a trip to the Hague to be tried as a war criminal--he would not have dared to assassinate Brown without an undeniably “strong signal” from someone in the White House.

Without even knowing it Hillary, your trip to Tuzla may have been the signal of White House seriousness that Tudjman needed to proceed.

His cooperation would seem to have paid off. In November 1996, just one week after the president’s re-election, Tudjman traveled not to The Hague to be tried but to the Walter Reed Hospital in Washington to be treated.

The media may be asking you irrelevant questions now, Hillary, but consider yourself lucky. Back in the day, when it still mattered, they weren’t asking you any real questions at all.

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 07:15:59 PM »
As a follow up - where is Hayden now?
Well now he is working for DC Capital Partners (National Interest Security Company, LLC (NISC)(,  a spin off of Veritas Capital that now owns Dyncorp and Krolls GSI....  also connected to "The Sprectrum Group" http://www.spectrumgrp.com/

For the background story
See: Since we brought up Dyncorp in the previous posts we need to talk about
Robert McKeon of Veritas Capital which previously acquired Dyncorp and now
Veritas Capital has Acquired Kroll Government Services, Inc.  01/06/2009


Veritas Capital Acquires Kroll Government Services, Inc.
01/06/2009 - 19:51

NEW YORK, June 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Veritas Capital, a leading private equity firm with a focus on companies that provide services and products to the government market, today announced the acquisition of Kroll Government Services, Inc. from Kroll, Inc., a subsidiary of Marsh & McLennan . In conjunction with the transaction, Kroll Government Services, Inc. has been renamed KeyPoint Government Solutions, Inc. Financial terms of the transaction were not disclosed.


Veritas Capital to Acquire DynCorp International From Computer Sciences Corporation for $850...
Publication: Business Wire
Date: Monday, December 13 2004

NEW YORK -- Veritas Capital, a leading private equity firm based in New York, announced today it has reached a definitive agreement with Computer Sciences Corporation (NYSE: CSC) to purchase its DynCorp International LLC ("DynCorp International" or the "Company") subsidiary for $850 million. The acquisition is expected to be completed in the first quarter of 2005.


General Michael V. Hayden Joins National Interest Security Company and DC Capital Boards

Fairfax, VA, (April 22, 2009) - National Interest Security Company, LLC (NISC), a company controlled by DC Capital Partners, LLC, announced today that General Michael Hayden, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency has joined the NISC Board of Directors. He joins other distinguished independent Directors including former Senator Chuck Hagel, General Tony Zinni, General Michael Hagee, Ambassador Henry Crumpton, VADM Stephen Loftus, and Kara Bue.

Thomas J. Campbell, President of DC Capital Partners and Chairman of NISC, said, "There are few individuals with greater stature in the intelligence community than General Hayden. The breadth of his experience across both the military and the intelligence community gives him a unique perspective on our nation’s requirements. We are extremely honored to have him join our team."

Andrew Maner, Chief Executive Officer of NISC, said, "We could not be more pleased General Hayden is joining our Board of Directors. No one has more insight into the threats we face and the capabilities we need to combat those threats than General Hayden. We look forward to his leadership and guidance as we focus on providing the best possible solutions to our customers."

General Hayden has a long and distinguished career in the US Air Force and in the intelligence community. Prior to becoming Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, General Hayden was the Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, the first person to serve in that position. General Hayden also served as Director, National Security Agency, and Chief, Central Security Service.

General Hayden has served as Commander of the Air Intelligence Agency and as Director of the Joint Command and Control Warfare Center. He has also served in senior staff positions at the Pentagon, Headquarters U.S. European Command, National Security Council and the U.S. Embassy in the People's Republic of Bulgaria. The general has also served as Deputy Chief of Staff, United Nations Command and U.S. Forces Korea.

In addition to serving on the NISC Board of Directors General Hayden will also serve on the DC Capital Board of Advisors. The Board’s purpose is to assist DC Capital in their investment process and includes other prominent individuals such as The Honorable Rich Armitage, former Deputy Secretary of State, General Tony Zinni, General Mike Hagee, Ambassador Hank Crumpton, VADM Steve Loftus, and Jeffery Smith, Senior Partner at Arnold and Porter.
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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 11:55:56 AM »
More on Hayden: (This guy talks and acts dishonest. Something about him doesn't ring true, IMO!)
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 12:01:48 AM »
Hayden--Would somebody give this idiot a copy of the Constitution.....

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 12:27:35 PM »
Bump for Bin Laden RIP
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2013, 02:47:37 PM »
bump - aj mentioned him on show today

Posted:   10/25/2013 11:29:50 AM PDT
Hayden retired as CIA director in 2009 and is now a principal in the Chertoff Group, a national security consultancy.


As Secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff worked closely with America’s most experienced intelligence experts and security professionals. Now a select group of them have joined him to form The Chertoff Group.

The Chertoff Group provides business and government leaders with the same kind of high-level, strategic thinking and diligent execution that have kept the American homeland and its people safe since 9/11.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2013, 05:29:39 PM »
Hayden calls for a "DIGITAL-BLACKWATER" to instigate violent cyber false flags

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Re: What's CIA director Hayden hidin'? By Ray McGovern
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2017, 01:25:09 PM »
Blasting Lies from the past ... NWO Hayden ... interesting big article in the BUSINESSINSIDER ... hmmmm 

Just as wikileaks VAULT 7 gets dropped ... hmmm ...

see : https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/


Former CIA Director Michael Hayden slams pro-Trump media for peddling 'illegitimate' and 'non-fact-based worldview'
march 7 2017

Former CIA Director Michael Hayden on Monday criticized the pro-Donald Trump bloc of conservative media for advancing what he deemed to be an "illegitimate" worldview.

"There are some outlets that have incredibly powerful lenses by which they view the facts they collect," Hayden told Business Insider in a sit-down interview. "I think the Breitbart and the likes are off the chart in terms of shaping data to meet the preconceptions."

Hayden's comments came after
it was reported that a conservative radio host's comments aggregated by Breitbart News inspired Trump to accuse President Barack Obama of bugging phones at Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential campaign, a claim reportedly rejected as false by the FBI.


blah blah blah lie lie lie ...
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5