The Poor British Royals are Innocent (sic)

[EvadingGrid]

There is a good reason, because you are full of SH*T. I would encourage everyone to read Robertcalms posting history before listening nonsense.

 

[EvadingGrid]

Thats why Hitler sent Hess to England to meet the Royals in the eleventh hour they betrayed him..

Hitler knew the Masonic Zionist Order were going to get him so he struck first...

He played the game ... The Rothschilds wanted the Bundesbank... Hitler agreed to help getting funded by Prescott Bush... Ford.. Exxon Oil and so on... He betrayed them and decided that attack would be his best defence... He took out the Masonic owned French Government... he had the Zionist controlled Russia to worry about... He thought he could get help from the Royals but they were too frightened of the Masonic order in the UK...

Spot the lunatic

[robertcalm]

Evading Grid if you got no intelligence ... go back inside your trailer....

and dont be the trailer trash of posters...

[Revolt426]

Thats why Hitler sent Hess to England to meet the Royals in the eleventh hour they betrayed him..

Hitler knew the Masonic Zionist Order were going to get him so he struck first...

He played the game ... The Rothschilds wanted the Bundesbank... Hitler agreed to help getting funded by Prescott Bush... Ford.. Exxon Oil and so on... He betrayed them and decided that attack would be his best defence... He took out the Masonic owned French Government... he had the Zionist controlled Russia to worry about... He thought he could get help from the Royals but they were too frightened of the Masonic order in the UK...

Are you aware that your Royalty and Bankers FUNDED HITLER? or is that a fraud as well?. Is Prince Bernhard and Prince Phillip a fraud? Did They not invent the WWF? Did Bernhard not invent Bilderberg? Was he not a Waffen SS NAZI Officer? What we have here is, a multitude of instances of British Government, Royalty and Bankers funding hitler, and you bring up Prescott Bush, of course. Why?? Because he is an "American".

Your pattern has been exposed time and time again, i dont see why you continue to blather with this nonsense. the US has it's traitors, and the UK is the hornets nest of the NWO - i am sorry if you do not want to face reality.
God save the queen!

[robertcalm]

Actually it was Herbert Prescott Bush biggest funder of Adolf Hitler...

Then Exxon Oil

Then Henry Ford

Then L`oreal

French and American companies

Dont believe me!!!!

Alex covered it in Endgame

Reason why Hess came to London as stated above.....

Never said I defend the Royals but Revolt it seems to be your favourite slur against me....

Well I post facts on the question put forward by another PP Member if the fault lies wherever I tell the truth..... unlike yourself

[EvadingGrid]

Are you aware that your Royalty and Bankers FUNDED HITLER? or is that a fraud as well?. Is Prince Bernhard and Prince Phillip a fraud? Did They not invent the WWF? Did Bernhard not invent Bilderberg? Was he not a Waffen SS NAZI Officer? What we have here is, a multitude of instances of British Government, Royalty and Bankers funding hitler, and you bring up Prescott Bush, of course. Why?? Because he is an "American".

Your pattern has been exposed time and time again, i dont see why you continue to blather with this nonsense. the US has it's traitors, and the UK is the hornets nest of the NWO - i am sorry if you do not want to face reality.
God save the queen!

Well put.

[Revolt426]

Actually it was Herbert Prescott Bush biggest funder of Adolf Hitler...

Then Exxon Oil

Then Henry Ford

Then L`oreal

French and American companies

Dont believe me!!!!

Alex covered it in Endgame

ACtually you are completely full of shit. Prescott was the biggest funder of Hitler IN THE UNITED STATES, once again, you are mincing others words to forge lies. You WILL BE EXPOSED ON THIS FORUM.

[robertcalm]

Evading Grid how can reposting a pack a lies be well put?

Are you really that dumb!!!

[Revolt426]

Evading Grid how can reposting a pack a lies be well put?

Are you really that dumb!!!

So you are denying that Prince Bernhard invented the Bilderberg Group and WWF in collaboration With Prince Phillip? That is a pack of lies? HAHAHA

[robertcalm]

Revolt you cant change history ,,,,, Go watch Endgame

Go tell Alex Jones hes full of it .... Thats where he believes Hitler was funded from

[robertcalm]

No I never brought the Bilderberg Group or Prince Bernhard up .... Thats something you decided to post...
Quite frankly nothing to do with anything

[EvadingGrid]

So you are denying that Prince Bernhard invented the Bilderberg Group and WWF in collaboration With Prince Phillip? That is a pack of lies? HAHAHA

ROFL

[Revolt426]

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1999/2604prince_philip.html

This article appears in the January 22, 1999 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
Prince Philip's `Cat's-Paw'
Al Gore, Jr. Would Usher In
a New Dark Age
by Scott Thompson

In an article in EIR of Jan. 15, "To Defeat Impeachment, You Must Defeat the New Confederacy," Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. described Vice President Al Gore, Jr. as the "cat's-paw" of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh and Royal Consort, in the effort of the London-steered financier oligarchy to spread four "poisons" worldwide: destruction of the sovereign nation-state, fascist environmentalism, Malthusian population-reduction, and slave-labor policies (see box).

In the interview which follows here, Martin Palmer, the "spiritual adviser on ecology" to the Duke of Edinburgh, relates how Gore met with Prince Philip in 1991 and has been in correspondence with him for a decade, on how to destroy the last vestiges of republicanism, through a combination of pagan religion and eco-fascism. This process began with a conference in Assisi, Italy, in 1986, sponsored by Prince Philip, who was then the international president of the World Wide Fund for Nature (World Wildlife Fund). It has especially targetted Christianity, stripping from it the concept that man is created in the living image of God, imago viva Dei, and can therefore discover validatable scientific principles of natural law, which have as one of their effects an increase in the relative potential population density of the Earth.

The Lambeth Palace process
As EIR documented in its Aug. 21, 1998 issue ("Prince Philip's Assault on Religion" and "High Priest of Evil: Martin Palmer"), there have been tectonic shifts already caused by the Sept. 22-29, 1986 Assisi meeting, at which Palmer, through the World Wildlife Fund, launched a discussion of what these pagan kooks call the "Gaia" hypothesis, in reference to the Earth Mother Goddess hypothesis. Palmer recounts how this came to the attention of then-Senator Al Gore, Jr., who then took up correspondence with the Duke of Edinburgh. A Network on Religion and Conservation was launched, which was managed by Palmer on Prince Philip's behalf, and has subsequently become known as the Alliance of Religion and Conservation (ARC). It joins Christianity into a pagan, syncretic cult that includes elements of the Bahais; Buddhists (including representatives of Tibetan Buddhism, which was a core part of the belief system of Hitler's Allgemeine SS); Hindus; Jains; Jews; Muslims; Sikhs; and, Taoists.

All these religions, under the Duke of Edinburgh's pagan ministrations in ARC, have agreed to give up whatever notion of scientific progress they may have once held, in order to adopt a neo-feudalist, "New Dark Age" conception based upon "ecologically sustainable development," "man's stewardship over nature," "small is beautiful," and, a Hitlerian conception that extols poverty and austerity, rather than seeking to produce physical wealth to better mankind's lot. This is in sharp contrast to the outlook of Genesis 1:26, that man's destiny is to "be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it"—an outlook amplified by Lyndon LaRouche's scientific understanding of physical economy.

Even before the founding of ARC, Prince Philip brought his New Dark Age religion and conservation show to the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C., where, in May 1990, according to Palmer, the Duke of Edinburgh had his first meeting with Gore. Prince Philip, who has upon more than one occasion stated that he wished to be "reincarnated as a deadly virus" in order to solve the problem of "human overpopulation," injected his "deadly virus" of eco-fascism into the mainstream of U.S. religions, creating a U.S.-based offshoot of ARC.

This process was taken one step further on Feb. 17-19, 1998, when leaders from the various religions gathered, first at Buckingham Palace, where Prince Philip gave a keynote speech, then at Lambeth Palace, where World Bank president Sir James Wolfensohn and the Archbishop of Canterbury inaugurated the "Lambeth Palace process," to use religion and eco-fascism to "change the culture" of the World Bank, as Palmer puts it, from any promotion of large projects such as dams and irrigation systems to feed a hungry world and stop life-destroying floods, toward adoption of "ecologically sustainable development," employing primitive "appropriate technologies."

The World Bank is a key collaborator with Al Gore, in a Jan. 14-15, 1999 conference on "Reinventing Government," which seeks to destroy the sovereign nation-state by downsizing governments and injecting the poison of eco-fascism into policy-planning. Palmer confirmed that ARC's religious leaders have also adopted the policies of Prince Philip's Transparency International, toward fighting so-called "crony capitalism," as being essential to maintain "ecologically sustainable development." After the Reinventing Government conference in January, Gore is going to host another conference, involving dozens of nations, to accelerate the International Monetary Fund/World Bank approach of putting a gun to the head of "uppity" leaders of sovereign nations by claiming that they are steeped in "corruption."

The 'greening' of America's churches
In the introduction to his 1992 book, Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit, Al Gore gives thanks for assistance in preparing the book to the Episcopal Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine in New York City. A spokesman for the Cathedral confirmed that Gore was aided by the Very Reverend James P. Morton, dean of the Cathedral Church, who is in semi-retirement, though very active in the field of religion and ecology, through such vehicles as Lindesfarne, a kooky pseudo-medieval village in New York State; and, by Paul Gorman, the founder of the U.S. equivalent of Prince Philip's ARC, which was launched soon after Prince Philip's May 1990 visit to the Washington National Cathedral. Housed at the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine, it is known as the National Religious Partnership for the Environment (NRPE). According to the Cathedral spokesman, Gorman, who is its executive director, maintains a close working relationship with Gore to this day.

Gathered under the umbrella of the NRPE are the U.S. Catholic Conference, the National Council of Churches of Christ, the Evangelical Environmental Network, and the Coalition on the Environment and Jewish Life.

In January 1991, Gorman and the NRPE had 32 Nobel laureates and other scientists write an "Open Letter to the Religious Community," warning of dire ecological catastrophes, from global warming to the outbreak of pandemic disease, destruction of "biodiversity," and the ecologically motivated outbreak of thermonuclear war. The signators included several friends of Al Gore, Jr.'s father, Sen. Al Gore, Sr. (see profile in EIR, Dec. 18, 1998, p. 73). These so-called scientists were pulled from the networks of the Pugwash Conference, which had been created by the connivance of Lord Bertrand Russell and Soviet General Secretary Nikita Khrushchov, and Dr. Leo "Strangelove" Szilard's Council for a Livable World. (The Council had contributed heavily to Sen. Al Gore, Sr.'s political campaigns before he became its president from 1970-72.) Bertrand Russell's aim was to use the threat of thermonuclear holocaust to destroy the sovereign nation-state, as LaRouche has detailed the case (e.g., "How Bertrand Russell Became an Evil Man," Fidelio, Fall 1994; "The Wells of Doom," EIR, Dec. 19, 1997).

This "Open Letter" was then sent to religious leaders, 271 of whom then also signed, including "37 heads of national religious bodies such as the General Secretaries of the World Muslim League and the World Council of Churches, and the Vice President of the World Jewish Congress, the Catholicos of All Armenians, Metropolitan Pitrim of the U.S.S.R., the Grand Muftis of Syria and Yugoslavia, the Presiding Bishops of all the Christian churches of China, and the Episcopal, Lutheran, and Mennonite churches in the U.S.A.; also, 51 cardinals, lamas, archbishops, head rabbis, patriarchs, mullahs, and bishops of jurisdictions in major cities signed it; 55 professors of theology, seminary presidents, cathedral deans, and heads of religious orders worldwide signed it; and, 17 indigenous religious leaders from 5 continents signed it." There was a very significant overlap between the religious leaders who signed this letter and the representatives of nine major religions represented in ARC.

Then, on Feb. 5, 1997, the NRPE presented Vice President Gore with a statement by representatives of the four major component religious and ecological bodies, entitled "Care for God's Earth Requires Justice for the Poor," which said that there was a moral issue that the poor were excluded from environmentally sound, sustainable development. The NRPE presented Vice President Gore with 35 projects to undertake, while making a pledge to closely monitor the ecological projects of the Clinton administration and the Congress, so that there would be "environmental justice."

Sounding a bit like Martin Palmer himself, Gorman has said: "Ancient faith traditions are engaging a new world historical challenge here, in a way in which is both strengthening the cause of environmental sustainability and justice and renewing religious life itself." The NRPE uses the following quote from Sen. Al Gore, Jr. on its web site: "Solving our global ecological crisis begins with each one of us understanding that while we are given dominion over the earth, we are required to be good stewards of the earth. That's what my Bible tells me. The work of congregations across the nation to achieve this principle is important and necessary, and will make a crucial difference in determining whether we are successful in confronting the extraordinary environmental crisis we now face." As for Reverend Morton, who, along with Gorman, assisted Gore in writing his book, he has said: "The challenge before the religious community in America is to make every congregation—every church synagogue and mosque—truly 'green'—a center of environmental study and action. That is their religious duty

[Revolt426]

INTERVIEW: MARTIN PALMERThe Gore connection
to Prince Philip
This interview with Prince Philip's spiritual adviser on ecology was conducted by Scott Thompson on Jan. 6, 1999. He began by asking about Al Gore's meeting with Prince Philip at the Washington National Cathedral in 1990.

Palmer: Right. But I know there had been a fair amount of correspondence before that, because Mr. Gore was very interested in the work that Prince Philip had initiated with the world religions in Assisi in 1986, where Prince Philip invited the heads of (initially) five major religions—the Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, and Muslims—to Assisi to create an alliance between religion and conservation to bring in the moral, ethical, and spiritual teachings of religion and to fuse that with the sort of environmental knowledge of the scientific community, and that led to tens of thousands of religiously based environmental projects around the world. And, there are now nine religions involved in that network. And, Mr. Gore was very interested in that work—

Q: That work is now with the World Bank isn't it?

Palmer: ...We're doing it at two levels. There's now a continuing program in which WWF—(what you call the World Wildlife Fund and we call the World Wide Fund for Nature, of which Prince Philip was the international president). They have sustained and developed this program with us. We act as their religious advisers.... It's in that capacity I'm religious adviser to Prince Philip on ecology. We have a whole program that's running worldwide on ecology, but we now have a parallel program which is being done with the World Bank, which brings the same nine religions—the Bahais, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jains, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, and Taoists—together for working on development issues, in which, of course, ecology plays a major part. But, it is a slightly different program. Prince Philip has also been enormously supportive of that program.

Q: You say that Vice President Gore, even before he met Prince Philip, had been in correspondence with him.

Palmer: Right, he'd expressed interest in this alliance between religion and conservation. In his book, he has a section in which he talks about the importance of the spiritual, religious, ethical, and moral dimensions ... that religion has.

Q: He seems to be very concerned about the Platonic Judeo-Christian conception of "be fruitful, multiply, and"—

Palmer: Indeed.

Q: That reason will solve all problems, so don't worry about nature.

Palmer: That's right. I mean it does rather fall into the sort of romantic vision that the Eastern religions are all nature religions, and the Western religions are all mechanical thinking, which, I have to say, at the time that he and Prince Philip were in correspondence, was a little bit what Prince Philip thought as well. But, things have moved on since then. I'm not sure if Mr. Gore has....

I know that the meeting took place. I know that there was correspondence before, because we were asked to advise on some of the religious issues and topics that were raised. I know it was a very good meeting. It was quite a meeting of the minds, because I think they're both men who like to get on and do things, and, they are fairly impatient with abstract thought. And, yet, both of them, Prince Philip in particular, have recognized that without, as it were, the ability to change people's hearts—that only religion can actually affect, on the network that religion has, down to the smallest community, through churches and mosques and synagogues—that the conservation methods are going to remain essentially an intellectual property, rather than a reality. And, I think that struck a chord with Mr. Gore, as I recall.... I know at one level, that an area the size of Belgium in the Amazon rain forest is cut down every year.... I know that, but it means absolutely nothing to me. Partly because I'm not terribly fond of Belgium.... But, if through a religious leader from that community (from one of the indigenous peoples) talking about what it meant to lose his soul tree, the tree that he's been bonded with since birth, and, the pain he felt when it was cut down—that brings home to me the scale of the crisis.

And so, Prince Philip is now, and certainly since 1986, has worked always to balance the scientific with the emotional. He makes it clear that the scientific in a sense offers the answers, but not the means.

Q: You say that Vice President Gore was personally, deeply moved by this kind of approach?

Palmer: This seemed to be the case. He seemed to feel that this made sense to him. I mean, bearing in mind his own family have quite strong religious connections. He certainly understood the power of religious authority.

Q: That was going to be my second question, because he is a rather deep-dyed Southern Baptist....

Palmer: Indeed he is. And, I think, you see Prince Philip has a very strong view that religion is about authority, it's about knowing what is right and wrong, and I think there was certainly a convergence of thought on that score. But, again, Mr. Gore's understanding, as I recall it, of the role of religion was more authoritative, than it was emotional or emotive.... And, therefore, he could see some logic in that—

Q: In other words, he could see that through the authority of religion claiming some kind of respect, the earth—

Palmer: This would be a useful ally. It couldn't do it by itself, because it hasn't done by itself. And, it took the secular conservation movement challenging the religious movement to really get the religions active on this. But, once they did that, it took off monumentally. I mean, so much so that Prince Philip was given an award in 1995 by the United Nations for having inaugurated this work with the religions, on the grounds that through the religious networks, the conservation message had reached untold millions, who otherwise would never have heard it or never thought it was relevant for them.

Q: I understand this approach of Prince Philip has moved Sir James Wolfensohn of the World Bank?

Palmer: Yes, that's quite right, but I think it's a little more complicated than that. I think that James Wolfensohn is, as I'm sure you are aware, seeking to change the culture of the World Bank. He looks at the work that had been done on ecology and religion, because we invited the World Bank to join us as Prince Philip's guests at Windsor Castle in 1995, when the nine religions came together to evaluate the success of their work to date and to plan further work. The World Bank was present. And, this created an interest in the World Bank as to whether the religions might not be similar allies in development work. And, very much with Prince Philip's encouragement—he hosted an initial reception at Buckingham Palace for this initiative to be discussed. Last October, he hosted a luncheon to raise funds for the project: the joint work between religions and the World Bank....

Q: James Wolfensohn is working closely with Vice President Gore on something that is afield from what you're talking about: the whole question of "crony capitalism" and the sort of thing that Transparency International has been addressing.

Palmer: Yes, exactly, very important.

Q: I was curious if there might have been any overlap on the ecological—

Palmer: Well, the religions have made it absolutely clear that they are wholeheartedly in support and willing to do whatever they can to further Jim Wolfensohn's work on corruption and cronyism. And, in the statement that they issued at the meeting we held at Lambeth Palace (the Archbishop of Canterbury's Palace), where this whole thing was kicked off by Prince Philip, the Archbishop, and Wolfensohn, the religions were wholeheartedly behind that initiative and certainly are doing what they can....

Q: In other words, under crony capitalism, you might very well say, "Well, I'm going to pay off this official, and therefore I'll be able to cut out even more soul trees in the Amazon forest"—

Palmer: Exactly. Certainly the religions have made the point since 1986, that one of the major problems they encounter in working on environmental issues is that the laws may be in existence, but they are not enforced....

Q: Do you have any idea, other than through this work with James Wolfensohn, whether or not Vice President Gore has remained in contact with Prince Philip?

Palmer: I understand that he's remained in contact, but not on a regular basis. The correspondence does not have to do with religious leaders, and so I have not been consulted.

I know that Prince Philip admired Gore's book [Earth in the Balance], and I know that Mr. Gore also admired Prince Philip's book [Down to Earth].... I think Prince Philip felt that what the Vice President was saying was important. I think he felt encouraged that a man obviously rising within the structure was making this statement. He certainly felt the book was an important contribution. He shared his belief that the spiritual and religious and ethical view was important to the scientific and pragmatic. This was respected from the other side....

Q: Concerning the impeachment of our President: The situation is a little bit more questionable than some of the more rosy news items are saying. And, so there is, as even the Sunday Telegraph acknowledged, the possibility that one of these scandals may bring Gore into the Presidency—

Palmer: Indeed.

Q: And, he would be more of his own man.

Palmer: Indeed. Indeed.

Q: Have you ever heard anything from ... the Alliance of Religion and Conservation concerning that potential? ...

Palmer: In terms of the Alliance of Religion and Conservation, I think we would take very much the approach that where we know that a political leader has, to some degree, made himself a hostage to fortune, by putting in print views which one would hope to see him pursue, that we would pursue those, particularly where that person has also a strong and an avowed religious life....

Q: You would say, on the question of ecology, the Vice President is somewhat of a hostage to the administration, which is less oriented in this direction than he is?

Palmer: I would say that's very much the case, and that if he becomes President, and therefore he would become even more a hostage to that, that what he has left is quite a powerful testimonial which can be used against him—i.e., his book.
 
 
   

[Revolt426]

Oh and so far as Endgame, Alex specifically mentioned Prescott bush was one of the top funders of hitler IN THE UNITED STATES (Therefor, Not WORLDWIDE).

By the by, he also caught your queen on camera at bilderberg.

[robertcalm]

This is to do with who was the biggest funder of adolf hitler --- or is it lets change the post as Ive been completely proven wrong yet again....

The Queen never went to Bilderberg she met the Rothschilds the week b4 at Camp David I believe...

Not my Queen as I have posted zillion times b4 it seems you want to make me out to be a Royalists which I never have been...

[Revolt426]

This is to do with who was the biggest funder of adolf hitler --- or is it lets change the post as Ive been completely proven wrong yet again....

The biggest funder WHERE? do you honestly believe Prescott Bush was the biggest funder of Hitler in the world? Are you honestly that stupid? Oh never mind, you are a British Counter Intelligence Scoundrel and i've proven it time and time again.

[robertcalm]

Who gave Hitler the 40 Billion  then ?

go on smart ass ----

tell me if you know so much!!!

[robertcalm]

Okay Ill tell you then .... Prescott Bush through his Bank which got closed down but no convictions after the deed had been done and the Prescott Bush company Standard Oil....


Alex Jones in Endgame goes through the figures which are documented ....

[Revolt426]

Oh good lord...... 40 Billion dollars... and you think 40 Billion dollars funded the entire Nazi Imperialist machine... Go back to your commanding officer and report a FAILURE please, for your own sake.

[robertcalm]

Revolt 40 Billion in 1939 was quite a bit of money .....

Enough to start WW2 anyway...

[Revolt426]

Revolt 40 Billion in 1939 was quite a bit of money .....

Enough to start WW2 anyway...

You have proven yourself to be a dis information agent, go away. Or atleast start acknowledging that the UK funded Hitler until  he invaded France.

Then the Rothschilds, OUT OF THE UK, continued to fund Hitler.

I know i KNOW! You are going to say "The Rothschilds aren't British" but that's ok. Go back to fantasy land now, buh bye.

[Revolt426]

This is to do with who was the biggest funder of adolf hitler --- or is it lets change the post as Ive been completely proven wrong yet again....

The Queen never went to Bilderberg she met the Rothschilds the week b4 at Camp David I believe...

Not my Queen as I have posted zillion times b4 it seems you want to make me out to be a Royalists which I never have been...

CAUGHT IN A LIE!!!!!!! CAUGHT AGAIN! Alex has her stupid Royal ass ON CAMERA, maybe YOU SHOULD GO WATCH END GAME

[robertcalm]

Oops the Press seem to be on my side too.... As well as the rest of the intelligent lifeforms on this planet

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to powerRumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's presidentBen Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington guardian.co.uk, Saturday 25 September 2004 23.59 BST Article historyGeorge Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

Remarkably, little of Bush's dealings with Germany has received public scrutiny, partly because of the secret status of the documentation involving him. But now the multibillion dollar legal action for damages by two Holocaust survivors against the Bush family, and the imminent publication of three books on the subject are threatening to make Prescott Bush's business history an uncomfortable issue for his grandson, George W, as he seeks re-election.

While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.

Tantalising


Bush was also on the board of at least one of the companies that formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world.

Thyssen owned the largest steel and coal company in Germany and grew rich from Hitler's efforts to re-arm between the two world wars. One of the pillars in Thyssen's international corporate web, UBC, worked exclusively for, and was owned by, a Thyssen-controlled bank in the Netherlands. More tantalising are Bush's links to the Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC), based in mineral rich Silesia on the German-Polish border. During the war, the company made use of Nazi slave labour from the concentration camps, including Auschwitz. The ownership of CSSC changed hands several times in the 1930s, but documents from the US National Archive declassified last year link Bush to CSSC, although it is not clear if he and UBC were still involved in the company when Thyssen's American assets were seized in 1942.

Three sets of archives spell out Prescott Bush's involvement. All three are readily available, thanks to the efficient US archive system and a helpful and dedicated staff at both the Library of Congress in Washington and the National Archives at the University of Maryland.

The first set of files, the Harriman papers in the Library of Congress, show that Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder of a number of companies involved with Thyssen.

The second set of papers, which are in the National Archives, are contained in vesting order number 248 which records the seizure of the company assets. What these files show is that on October 20 1942 the alien property custodian seized the assets of the UBC, of which Prescott Bush was a director. Having gone through the books of the bank, further seizures were made against two affiliates, the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. By November, the Silesian-American Company, another of Prescott Bush's ventures, had also been seized.

The third set of documents, also at the National Archives, are contained in the files on IG Farben, who was prosecuted for war crimes.

A report issued by the Office of Alien Property Custodian in 1942 stated of the companies that "since 1939, these (steel and mining) properties have been in possession of and have been operated by the German government and have undoubtedly been of considerable assistance to that country's war effort".

Prescott Bush, a 6ft 4in charmer with a rich singing voice, was the founder of the Bush political dynasty and was once considered a potential presidential candidate himself. Like his son, George, and grandson, George W, he went to Yale where he was, again like his descendants, a member of the secretive and influential Skull and Bones student society. He was an artillery captain in the first world war and married Dorothy Walker, the daughter of George Herbert Walker, in 1921.

In 1924, his father-in-law, a well-known St Louis investment banker, helped set him up in business in New York with Averill Harriman, the wealthy son of railroad magnate E H Harriman in New York, who had gone into banking.

One of the first jobs Walker gave Bush was to manage UBC. Bush was a founding member of the bank and the incorporation documents, which list him as one of seven directors, show he owned one share in UBC worth $125.

The bank was set up by Harriman and Bush's father-in-law to provide a US bank for the Thyssens, Germany's most powerful industrial family.

August Thyssen, the founder of the dynasty had been a major contributor to Germany's first world war effort and in the 1920s, he and his sons Fritz and Heinrich established a network of overseas banks and companies so their assets and money could be whisked offshore if threatened again.

By the time Fritz Thyssen inherited the business empire in 1926, Germany's economic recovery was faltering. After hearing Adolf Hitler speak, Thyssen became mesmerised by the young firebrand. He joined the Nazi party in December 1931 and admits backing Hitler in his autobiography, I Paid Hitler, when the National Socialists were still a radical fringe party. He stepped in several times to bail out the struggling party: in 1928 Thyssen had bought the Barlow Palace on Briennerstrasse, in Munich, which Hitler converted into the Brown House, the headquarters of the Nazi party. The money came from another Thyssen overseas institution, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvarrt in Rotterdam.

By the late 1930s, Brown Brothers Harriman, which claimed to be the world's largest private investment bank, and UBC had bought and shipped millions of dollars of gold, fuel, steel, coal and US treasury bonds to Germany, both feeding and financing Hitler's build-up to war.

Between 1931 and 1933 UBC bought more than $8m worth of gold, of which $3m was shipped abroad. According to documents seen by the Guardian, after UBC was set up it transferred $2m to BBH accounts and between 1924 and 1940 the assets of UBC hovered around $3m, dropping to $1m only on a few occasions.

In 1941, Thyssen fled Germany after falling out with Hitler but he was captured in France and detained for the remainder of the war.

There was nothing illegal in doing business with the Thyssens throughout the 1930s and many of America's best-known business names invested heavily in the German economic recovery. However, everything changed after Germany invaded Poland in 1939. Even then it could be argued that BBH was within its rights continuing business relations with the Thyssens until the end of 1941 as the US was still technically neutral until the attack on Pearl Harbor. The trouble started on July 30 1942 when the New York Herald-Tribune ran an article entitled "Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". UBC's huge gold purchases had raised suspicions that the bank was in fact a "secret nest egg" hidden in New York for Thyssen and other Nazi bigwigs. The Alien Property Commission (APC) launched an investigation.

There is no dispute over the fact that the US government seized a string of assets controlled by BBH - including UBC and SAC - in the autumn of 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy act. What is in dispute is if Harriman, Walker and Bush did more than own these companies on paper.

Erwin May, a treasury attache and officer for the department of investigation in the APC, was assigned to look into UBC's business. The first fact to emerge was that Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush and the other directors didn't actually own their shares in UBC but merely held them on behalf of Bank voor Handel. Strangely, no one seemed to know who owned the Rotterdam-based bank, including UBC's president.

May wrote in his report of August 16 1941: "Union Banking Corporation, incorporated August 4 1924, is wholly owned by the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V of Rotterdam, the Netherlands. My investigation has produced no evidence as to the ownership of the Dutch bank. Mr Cornelis [sic] Lievense, president of UBC, claims no knowledge as to the ownership of the Bank voor Handel but believes it possible that Baron Heinrich Thyssen, brother of Fritz Thyssen, may own a substantial interest."

May cleared the bank of holding a golden nest egg for the Nazi leaders but went on to describe a network of companies spreading out from UBC across Europe, America and Canada, and how money from voor Handel travelled to these companies through UBC.

By September May had traced the origins of the non-American board members and found that Dutchman HJ Kouwenhoven - who met with Harriman in 1924 to set up UBC - had several other jobs: in addition to being the managing director of voor Handel he was also the director of the August Thyssen bank in Berlin and a director of Fritz Thyssen's Union Steel Works, the holding company that controlled Thyssen's steel and coal mine empire in Germany.

Within a few weeks, Homer Jones, the chief of the APC investigation and research division sent a memo to the executive committee of APC recommending the US government vest UBC and its assets. Jones named the directors of the bank in the memo, including Prescott Bush's name, and wrote: "Said stock is held by the above named individuals, however, solely as nominees for the Bank voor Handel, Rotterdam, Holland, which is owned by one or more of the Thyssen family, nationals of Germany and Hungary. The 4,000 shares hereinbefore set out are therefore beneficially owned and help for the interests of enemy nationals, and are vestible by the APC," according to the memo from the National Archives seen by the Guardian.

Red-handed


Jones recommended that the assets be liquidated for the benefit of the government, but instead UBC was maintained intact and eventually returned to the American shareholders after the war. Some claim that Bush sold his share in UBC after the war for $1.5m - a huge amount of money at the time - but there is no documentary evidence to support this claim. No further action was ever taken nor was the investigation continued, despite the fact UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler's rise to power.

The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery: the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz.

Thyssen's partner in United Steel Works, which had coal mines and steel plants across the region, was Friedrich Flick, another steel magnate who also owned part of IG Farben, the powerful German chemical company.

Flick's plants in Poland made heavy use of slave labour from the concentration camps in Poland. According to a New York Times article published in March 18 1934 Flick owned two-thirds of CSSC while "American interests" held the rest.

The US National Archive documents show that BBH's involvement with CSSC was more than simply holding the shares in the mid-1930s. Bush's friend and fellow "bonesman" Knight Woolley, another partner at BBH, wrote to Averill Harriman in January 1933 warning of problems with CSSC after the Poles started their drive to nationalise the plant. "The Consolidated Silesian Steel Company situation has become increasingly complicated, and I have accordingly brought in Sullivan and Cromwell, in order to be sure that our interests are protected," wrote Knight. "After studying the situation Foster Dulles is insisting that their man in Berlin get into the picture and obtain the information which the directors here should have. You will recall that Foster is a director and he is particularly anxious to be certain that there is no liability attaching to the American directors."

But the ownership of the CSSC between 1939 when the Germans invaded Poland and 1942 when the US government vested UBC and SAC is not clear.

"SAC held coal mines and definitely owned CSSC between 1934 and 1935, but when SAC was vested there was no trace of CSSC. All concrete evidence of its ownership disappears after 1935 and there are only a few traces in 1938 and 1939," says Eva Schweitzer, the journalist and author whose book, America and the Holocaust, is published next month.

Silesia was quickly made part of the German Reich after the invasion, but while Polish factories were seized by the Nazis, those belonging to the still neutral Americans (and some other nationals) were treated more carefully as Hitler was still hoping to persuade the US to at least sit out the war as a neutral country. Schweitzer says American interests were dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The Nazis bought some out, but not others.

The two Holocaust survivors suing the US government and the Bush family for a total of $40bn in compensation claim both materially benefited from Auschwitz slave labour during the second world war.

Kurt Julius Goldstein, 87, and Peter Gingold, 85, began a class action in America in 2001, but the case was thrown out by Judge Rosemary Collier on the grounds that the government cannot be held liable under the principle of "state sovereignty".

Jan Lissmann, one of the lawyers for the survivors, said: "President Bush withdrew President Bill Clinton's signature from the treaty [that founded the court] not only to protect Americans, but also to protect himself and his family."

Lissmann argues that genocide-related cases are covered by international law, which does hold governments accountable for their actions. He claims the ruling was invalid as no hearing took place.

In their claims, Mr Goldstein and Mr Gingold, honorary chairman of the League of Anti-fascists, suggest the Americans were aware of what was happening at Auschwitz and should have bombed the camp.

The lawyers also filed a motion in The Hague asking for an opinion on whether state sovereignty is a valid reason for refusing to hear their case. A ruling is expected within a month.

The petition to The Hague states: "From April 1944 on, the American Air Force could have destroyed the camp with air raids, as well as the railway bridges and railway lines from Hungary to Auschwitz. The murder of about 400,000 Hungarian Holocaust victims could have been prevented."

The case is built around a January 22 1944 executive order signed by President Franklin Roosevelt calling on the government to take all measures to rescue the European Jews. The lawyers claim the order was ignored because of pressure brought by a group of big American companies, including BBH, where Prescott Bush was a director.

Lissmann said: "If we have a positive ruling from the court it will cause [president] Bush huge problems and make him personally liable to pay compensation."

The US government and the Bush family deny all the claims against them.

In addition to Eva Schweitzer's book, two other books are about to be published that raise the subject of Prescott Bush's business history. The author of the second book, to be published next year, John Loftus, is a former US attorney who prosecuted Nazi war criminals in the 70s. Now living in St Petersburg, Florida and earning his living as a security commentator for Fox News and ABC radio, Loftus is working on a novel which uses some of the material he has uncovered on Bush. Loftus stressed that what Prescott Bush was involved in was just what many other American and British businessmen were doing at the time.

"You can't blame Bush for what his grandfather did any more than you can blame Jack Kennedy for what his father did - bought Nazi stocks - but what is important is the cover-up, how it could have gone on so successfully for half a century, and does that have implications for us today?" he said.

"This was the mechanism by which Hitler was funded to come to power, this was the mechanism by which the Third Reich's defence industry was re-armed, this was the mechanism by which Nazi profits were repatriated back to the American owners, this was the mechanism by which investigations into the financial laundering of the Third Reich were blunted," said Loftus, who is vice-chairman of the Holocaust Museum in St Petersburg.

"The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back. Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute horseshit. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were."

"There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany."

Loftus said Prescott Bush must have been aware of what was happening in Germany at the time. "My take on him was that he was a not terribly successful in-law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and Harriman were the two evil geniuses, they didn't care about the Nazis any more than they cared about their investments with the Bolsheviks."

What is also at issue is how much money Bush made from his involvement. His supporters suggest that he had one token share. Loftus disputes this, citing sources in "the banking and intelligence communities" and suggesting that the Bush family, through George Herbert Walker and Prescott, got $1.5m out of the involvement. There is, however, no paper trail to this sum.

The third person going into print on the subject is John Buchanan, 54, a Miami-based magazine journalist who started examining the files while working on a screenplay. Last year, Buchanan published his findings in the venerable but small-circulation New Hampshire Gazette under the headline "Documents in National Archives Prove George Bush's Grandfather Traded With the Nazis - Even After Pearl Harbor". He expands on this in his book to be published next month - Fixing America: Breaking the Stranglehold of Corporate Rule, Big Media and the Religious Right.

In the article, Buchanan, who has worked mainly in the trade and music press with a spell as a muckraking reporter in Miami, claimed that "the essential facts have appeared on the internet and in relatively obscure books but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes".

Buchanan suffers from hypermania, a form of manic depression, and when he found himself rebuffed in his initial efforts to interest the media, he responded with a series of threats against the journalists and media outlets that had spurned him. The threats, contained in e-mails, suggested that he would expose the journalists as "traitors to the truth".

Unsurprisingly, he soon had difficulty getting his calls returned. Most seriously, he faced aggravated stalking charges in Miami, in connection with a man with whom he had fallen out over the best way to publicise his findings. The charges were dropped last month.

Biography


Buchanan said he regretted his behaviour had damaged his credibility but his main aim was to secure publicity for the story. Both Loftus and Schweitzer say Buchanan has come up with previously undisclosed documentation.

The Bush family have largely responded with no comment to any reference to Prescott Bush. Brown Brothers Harriman also declined to comment.

The Bush family recently approved a flattering biography of Prescott Bush entitled Duty, Honour, Country by Mickey Herskowitz. The publishers, Rutledge Hill Press, promised the book would "deal honestly with Prescott Bush's alleged business relationships with Nazi industrialists and other accusations".

In fact, the allegations are dealt with in less than two pages. The book refers to the Herald-Tribune story by saying that "a person of less established ethics would have panicked ... Bush and his partners at Brown Brothers Harriman informed the government regulators that the account, opened in the late 1930s, was 'an unpaid courtesy for a client' ... Prescott Bush acted quickly and openly on behalf of the firm, served well by a reputation that had never been compromised. He made available all records and all documents. Viewed six decades later in the era of serial corporate scandals and shattered careers, he received what can be viewed as the ultimate clean bill."

The Prescott Bush story has been condemned by both conservatives and some liberals as having nothing to do with the current president. It has also been suggested that Prescott Bush had little to do with Averill Harriman and that the two men opposed each other politically.

However, documents from the Harriman papers include a flattering wartime profile of Harriman in the New York Journal American and next to it in the files is a letter to the financial editor of that paper from Prescott Bush congratulating the paper for running the profile. He added that Harriman's "performance and his whole attitude has been a source of inspiration and pride to his partners and his friends".

The Anti-Defamation League in the US is supportive of Prescott Bush and the Bush family. In a statement last year they said that "rumours about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated ... Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathiser."

However, one of the country's oldest Jewish publications, the Jewish Advocate, has aired the controversy in detail.

More than 60 years after Prescott Bush came briefly under scrutiny at the time of a faraway war, his grandson is facing a different kind of scrutiny but one underpinned by the same perception that, for some people, war can be a profitable business
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

[Revolt426]

Good Work! you have exposed your own countries largest propaganda network! Congrats!.. really i give you 100% props on that.

How about posting the Eugenics articles now?

[Revolt426]

Will this satisfy your delusions?:
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2000/2733_prescott_bush_hitler.html

CRIMES OF THE BUSH DYNASTY
Dubya's Grandpa and Great-Granddad Helped Put Adolf Hitler into Power
by Anton Chaitkin
The following is excerpted from an article that appeared in New Federalist, June 9, 1997, under the title "Now, as Then: Bush and the British, from Auschwitz to Africa."

When Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, his Nazi Party was in the minority. The Nazis had just suffered setbacks in the German elections of Nov. 6, 1932, losing 34 Reichstag seats. President Hindenburg had appointed Kurt von Schleicher Chancellor.

Yet, less than three months later, on Jan. 30, 1933, after a well-financed Nazi propaganda and armed-terror campaign, Hindenburg appointed Hitler to take Schleicher's place. The Nazis got Hindenburg to schedule new elections for March 5. With streams of money for their propaganda and guns, the Nazis "won" the election, and Hitler seized power.

The two principal German organizers of this Hitler takeover, were Hjalmar Schacht and Fritz Thyssen. Both men were operatives of the British Empire, through Bank of England Governor Montagu Norman, and of a British-controlled Wall Street grouping at the center of which were Averell Harriman, and Harriman's partner, Prescott Bush, the father of the later U.S. President George Bush.

Over several years, every Nazi step toward power in Germany was coordinated, and Nazi campaign finances were overseen, by this British-New York axis. Hitler's master-race ideology, which led to mass extermination, was simultaneously promoted and given the stamp of approval by this same British-New York faction.

Thyssen-Harriman-Bush
Fritz Thyssen was the earliest important financial backer of Hitler. In 1923, he gave Gen. Erich Ludendorf 100,000 gold marks for the Nazis, prior to the attempted putsch by Hitler. From then through the 1930s, the bulk of the funds to build both the Nazi party, and Hitler's career, went through Thyssen.

On Oct. 5, 1942, during World War II, U.S. government investigators reported on Thyssen's Nazi base in America: "Averell Harriman was in Europe sometime prior to 1924 and at that time became acquainted with Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist." Harriman and Thyssen agreed to set up a bank for Thyssen in New York.

"[C]ertain of [Harriman's] associates would serve as directors." Thyssen agent "H.J. Kouwenhoven . . . came to the United States . . . prior to 1924 for conferences with the Harriman Company in this connection."

The first Harriman-Thyssen meeting was most likely in 1922, when Averell Harriman had been in Berlin to set up the Berlin branch of W.A. Harriman & Co. This Harriman banking house had recently been created by the British-allied American financier, George Herbert Walker (George Bush's maternal grandfather), who was the bank's president.

In 1924, Harriman and Walker formally organized, within their New York office, a shell company entirely devoted to projects to be run through Thyssen, called the Union Banking Corporation. This interlocked with the Thyssen-owned Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart (BHS) in the Netherlands, which represented Thyssen's German interests.

Thus, the W.A. Harriman & Co. (alias Union Banking Corporation) would be transferring funds back and forth between New York and the European Thyssen projects. By putting up about $400,000, the Harriman organization became the controller of Thyssen's banking operations outside of Germany.

In 1926, Walker's son-in-law, Prescott Bush (George's father), joined the firm as vice president, and soon became its Chief Executive. That same year, Wall Street's Dillon Read set up the United Steel Works, Thyssen's main German corporation.

On Jan. 1, 1931, the Harriman bank merged with the old British-U.S. company, Brown Brothers. This put the new Brown Brothers Harriman, which would be the world's largest private investment bank, directly under the control of London's Montagu Norman. The governor of the Bank of England, personally a satanic Theosophist, and Britain's best-known public supporter of Adolf Hitler, Norman had earlier been a Brown Brothers partner; his family had run the firm since the 1860s. London's Hitler project was stepped up, with Harriman, Bush, and Thyssen as leading intermediaries.

After the war, Fritz Thyssen revealed to Allied interrogators, certain limited aspects of his mediation between the Norman-Harriman-Bush complex and the Nazi rise to power. He stated, "In 1930 or 1931 . . . I told [Hitler's deputy Rudolph] Hess . . . I would arrange a credit for him with a Dutch bank in Rotterdam, the Bank für Handel und Schiff [a branch of the Union Banking Corp.].

"The credit was about 250,000-300,000 [gold] marks—about the sum I had given before. . . ."

In January 1931, immediately after Montagu Norman's Brown Brothers merged with Harriman and Bush, their agent Thyssen met privately to talk money and strategy with Adolf Hitler, Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels, and Montagu Norman's German banker protégé, Hjalmar Schacht, at the home of Hitler's deputy Hermann Goering.

In Congressional hearings at the end of the war, the U.S. Treasury Department reported on the Harriman-Bush banking front for Thyssen, on the huge part that the Thyssen organization played in Hitler's war buildup, and on the flow of money that had put Hitler into power.

The Treasury officials stated:

"During the . . . two years [after the 1931 crash] Thyssen dedicated his fortune and his influence to the single purpose of bringing Hitler to power. In 1932, he arranged the now famous meeting in the Düsseldorf Industrialists' Club, at which Hitler addressed the leading businessmen of the Ruhr and the Rhineland. At the close of Hitler's speech, Thyssen cried, `Heil Herr Hitler'. . . . By the time of the German . . . elections later that year Thyssen had succeeded in eliciting contributions to Hitler's campaign fund from all of the big industrial combines. He himself is reported to have spent 3,000,000 marks on the Nazis in the year 1932 alone.

"During 1933 Thyssen served as intercessor between von Hindenburg, von Papen, and Hitler. He brought them together at a secret meeting which laid the basis for the appointment of Hitler as Reichschancellor."[1]

Schacht Passes the Hat
After Hitler was appointed Chancellor, Hjalmar Schacht hosted and chaired a meeting on Feb. 20, 1933 at Goering's Reichstag President's palace for Thyssen's representatives and a few other German businessmen. Schacht passed the hat, raising 3 million gold marks for the final drive to Nazi dictatorship.

The biggest contributors there were Karl Bosch and Georg von Schnitzler for the IG Farben company, steelmaker Gustav Krupp (who had previously held off supporting Hitler), and the Thyssen-Wall Street United Steel Works chief executive Albert Voegler. Herr Voegler was also a director of the Harriman-Bush affiliated BHS Bank in Rotterdam, and a director of the Hamburg-America shipping company, which would soon be owned jointly by the Harriman-Bush enterprise and the Hitler government.

With Hitler and the Gestapo in power, Central Bank President and Economics Minister Hjalmar Schacht threw all resources into creating a Nazi war machine. Fritz Thyssen was made the dictator of the Ruhr region, with mammoth war contracts. He and his British-Wall Street allies took complete ownership of every industrial concern in which Thyssen was involved; his opponents were defeated, purged, and arrested.

While Hitler cynically denounced the IG Farben company as an "international Jewish organization," Schacht simultaneously awarded that company huge contracts to produce munitions and chemicals for the military buildup.

Throughout this period, up until 1937, banker Max Warburg was the leading stockholder of IG Farben. Warburg (like the Rothschilds, politically loyal to the British crown) meanwhile presumed to instruct his fellow Jews in the western countries not to boycott or otherwise protest Hitler's anti-Jewish persecution.

Max Warburg had brokered the Harriman-Bush takeover of German companies, and their subsequent staffing by Nazis. The Warburg family's Kuhn Loeb bank in New York had earlier launched the Harriman family's railroad fortune, with capital from the British monarchy. In the 1930s, Kuhn Loeb was selling new bonds in New York for Hitler and Schacht, to replace, at a lower interest rate, the German public and private bonds held by Americans. Max Warburg meanwhile served as Schacht's deputy at the German central bank.

In May 1933, an agreement was reached in Berlin, for the coordination of all Nazi commerce with the U.S.A. The Harriman International Co., led by Averell Harriman's first cousin Oliver, was to head a syndicate of 150 firms and individuals, to conduct all exports from Hitler's Germany to the United States. This pact, reported in the May 20, 1933 New York Times, had been negotiated in Berlin by Hjalmar Schacht and John Foster Dulles, attorney for Harriman, Prescott Bush, and various Nazi enterprises, with the counsel of Max Warburg. Leading up to this agreement, a telegram (now in the Harriman papers, Library of Congress) was sent to Nazi official Hjalmar Schacht at the Mayflower Hotel, Washington, dated May 11, 1933: "Much disappointed to have missed seeing you Tuesday afternoon. . . . I hope to see you either in Washington or New York before you sail. With my regards, W.A. Harriman."

At the top, Montagu Norman made all the decisions. Schacht went abroad to meet several times each year with Norman to plan the budget of Nazi Germany within the guidelines of British credit policy. These meetings were often at Montagu Norman's London house, or at the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland, which was controlled entirely by Norman and his Nazis. Norman, whenever he was in the U.S.A., coordinating Britain's Hitler project with his New York allies, would stay at the home of his fanatical devotee, Thatcher Brown, the partner of Harriman and Bush.

Friedrich Flick, a direct partner of Harriman and Bush, and of Thyssen, was another contributor to the Hitler takeover. In preparation for the Nuremberg war crimes trials, the U.S. government said that Flick was "one of leading financiers and industrialists who, from 1932, contributed large sums to the Nazi Party. . . ."

[robertcalm]

Revolt youve lost every argument... Go check Endgame the Queen never showed at Bilderberg Alex mentions a secret meeting the week prior... Check your facts...

Where the hell have I mentioned Eugenics.... Change the post every time you lose an argument...


Your Post proves that Prescott Bush funded the Nazi`s  --- case closed... my point proved...

[Revolt426]

PART 2:

Harriman-Bush: Banking on the Nazis
The Flick-Harriman partnership was directly supervised by Prescott Bush, President Bush's father, and by George Walker, President Bush's grandfather.

The Harriman-Walker Union Banking Corporation's arrangements for the German Steel Trust had made them bankers for Flick and his vast operations in Germany by no later than 1926.

The Harriman Fifteen Corporation (George Walker, president, Prescott Bush and Averell Harriman, sole directors) held a substantial stake in the Silesian Holding Co. at the time of the merger with Brown Brothers, on Jan. 1, 1931. This holding correlated with Averell Harriman's chairmanship of the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, the Harriman-Bush group owning one-third of a complex of steelmaking, coal-mining, and zinc-mining activities in Germany and Poland, in which Friedrich Flick owned two-thirds.

The Nuremberg prosecutor characterized Flick as "proprietor and head of a large group of industrial enterprises (coal and iron mines, steel producing and fabricating plants) . . . `Wehrwirtschaftsführer,' 1938 ["Military Economy Leader," the title awarded to prominent industrialists for merit in the armaments drive]. . . ."

For this buildup of the Hitler war machine with coal, steel, and arms production, using slave laborers, Flick was condemned to seven years in prison at the Nuremberg trials, and served three years.

On March 19, 1934, Prescott Bush, by then manager of Harriman's personal funds and director of the Union Banking Corp., sent a memo to Harriman alerting him to an emerging resistance by the Polish government to the Bush-Harriman-Nazi enterprise, which was then looting Poland's labor and mineral wealth. Hitler solved this resistance problem in 1939 by invading Poland, thus starting World War II.

George Bush's father and grandfather were not prosecuted at Nuremberg. But, acting under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1942, U.S. government officials had quietly seized their assets in the various Nazi enterprises.

Before the Pearl Harbor attack brought the United States into the war, the American end of the Hitler project had gotten some play in the press. Here is a report in the New York Herald Tribune, July 31, 1941:

Thyssen has $3,000,000 Cash in New York Vaults; Union Banking Corp. May Hide Nest Egg for High Nazis He Once Backed

by M.J. Racusin

In the tides of economic warfare now surging over the world, the New York Herald Tribune has discovered that Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist who was Adolf Hitler's original patron on a prodigal scale a decade ago, has $3,000,000 in American cash salted away in the bank vaults of downtown New York.

In the American colony of Thyssen enterprises perhaps the most interesting is the Union Banking Corporation, 39 Broadway, nominal guardian of the $3,000,000 cache, all in United States currency—a sort of nest egg for Herr Thyssen or perhaps for some of his high-placed Nazi friends when the present troublous days are over.

Among other Thyssen interests in New York are half a dozen corporations engaged in the shipping, export and import trades, centering chiefly about the coal and steel industries and operating under the wing of the Union Banking Corporation. . . .

Perhaps it wasn't Herr Thyssen's money at all, some persons suggest. Maybe he sent it here for safekeeping for some of the Nazi bigwigs—perhaps for Goering, for Goebbels, for Himmler, or even Hitler himself.

No matter how the story comes out, the United States government has the situation in hand. Every penny of known Thyssen assets is frozen, under the strictest control. . . .

The circumstances of [the bank's] relationship [to the Nazi Thyssen] were frankly set forth in a letter addressed by Knight Wooley, a partner of the Brown Brothers Harriman firm. . . .

January 14, 1941
William R. White, Esq.
Superintendant of Banks, State of New York

Dear Mr. White:

As you are aware, my partners, E.R. Harriman [Averell's brother], Ray Morris, Prescott S. Bush and our [employee] H.D. Pennington, are directors of the Union Banking Corporation, a state institution under your supervision. This corporation is located at 39 Broadway, and it is in effect a New York office, or agency, of the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, in Rotterdam. . . .

From London, to New York, to Auschwitz
On June 14, 1940, nine months after the Nazi tanks rolled into Poland, the IG Farben company opened the Auschwitz factory and slave labor camp in occupied Poland, to produce artificial rubber and gasoline from coal. The Hitler government thereafter supplied IG Farben with political opponents and Jews as the slaves, who were worked to near death and then murdered. Later, Jews and others were simply mass-exterminated there.

The Auschwitz slave camp was a project of the merger and worldwide cartel agreements between IG Farben and the Rockefeller family's Standard Oil company (later called Exxon). On Oct. 12, 1939, eight months before Auschwitz opened, a Standard Oil executive wrote to its president, William S. Farish, concerning a renewal of their earlier agreements with the Nazis, and the British approval for the deal. The report to Farish stated:

In England I met by appointment the Royal Dutch [Shell Oil Co.] gentlemen from Holland, and . . . a general agreement was reached on the necessary changes in our relations with the IG [Farben], in view of the state of war. . . . [T]he Royal Dutch Shell group is essentially British. . . . I also had several meetings with . . . the [British] Air Ministry. . . .

I required help to obtain the necessary permission to go to Holland. . . . The gentlemen in the Air Ministry . . . very kindly offered to assist me [later] in reentering England. . . .

Pursuant to these arrangements, I was able to keep my appointments in Holland [having flown there on a British Royal Air Force bomber], where I had three days of discussion with the representatives of IG. They delivered to me assignments of some 2,000 foreign patents and we did our best to work out complete plans for a modus vivendi which could operate through the term of the war, whether or not the U.S. came in.

Emil Helfferich, chief executive of both Standard Oil's Germany subsidiary, and of Harriman, Bush, and Hitler's Hamburg-America lines, testified after the war that money to pay the SS guards at the Auschwitz death camp, was paid out of a Standard Oil bank account. Both Emil Helfferich and fellow Harriman-Bush shipping director Karl Lindemann were authorized to write Standard Oil checks to Nazi SS chief Heinrich Himmler.

In 1936, the Warburg bank had transmitted a letter from this Helfferich to the Harriman-Bush enterprise, stating: "It is the intention to continue the relations with Mr. Harriman on the same basis as heretofore"—that is, just as before the Hitler dictatorship! After Helfferich sent a Nazi emissary to New York to meet Averell Harriman, the Harriman-Bush office replied: "I am glad to learn that Mr. Hellferich [sic] has stated that relations between the Hamburg American Line and ourselves will be continued on the same basis as heretofore."

This reply was sent to Rudolph Brinkmann, Max Warburg's employee at the Warburg bank.

Max Warburg was forced out of IG Farben in 1937, as the Hitler regime bore down upon the Jews. Brinkmann, a non-Jew acceptable to Hitler, kept the Warburg bank going for the Nazis—under the name "Brinkmann," as the IG Farben-Standard Oil cartel moved toward its Auschwitz project.

After countless hundreds of thousands of victims were murdered at Auschwitz, the money made by the IG-Standard cartel for Standard President William S. Farish, was inherited by his grandson, William S. Farish III. This Auschwitz heir is Queen Elizabeth's main host on her current visits to the U.S.A., and George Bush's closest friend: Farish took control of managing Bush's personal fortune after Bush's 1980 election as U.S. Vice President.

Quietly, George's father, Prescott, had persevered with his comrades in the old Auschwitz gang. Witness a Nov. 15, 1961 internal memo of Brown Brothers Harriman warning of an embezzlement at the August Thyssen bank, which memo stated that the "information [on the Thyssen family bank] came to us through our trainee, Rudy Brinkmann, and apparently was confirmed by E.M. Warburg & Co., New York."

Harriman's Eugenics Movement
and Nazi Race Science
The smoldering bodies in Auschwitz followed logically upon the race propaganda festival which had been staged by the Harriman-Bush enterprise a decade earlier in New York. The Third International Congress on Eugenics, held at the American Museum of Natural History on Aug. 21-23, 1932, had given a seal of approval to the then-planned takeover of Germany by the Nazi master-race fanatics.

The Eugenics Congress was officially dedicated to Averell Harriman's mother, who had paid for the founding of the "race-science" movement in America. She had built the Eugenics Record Office as a branch of the Galton National Laboratory in London.

Averell Harriman's sister Mary, hostess and director of "entertainment" for the Eugenics Congress, lived in Virginia fox-hunting country. Fellow Virginian W.A. Plecker, state Commissioner of Vital Statistics and crusader against race-mixing, spoke on "racial purity."

Averell Harriman personally arranged with the Walker/Bush/Helfferich Hamburg-America Line to transport Nazi ideologues from Germany to New York for this meeting. The most famous such guest was Dr. Ernst Rudin, psychiatrist at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Genealogy and Demography in Berlin, where the Rockefeller family paid for Dr. Rudin to occupy an entire floor with his eugenics research.

Harriman's 1932 Eugenics Congress elected Ernst Rudin president of the International Federation of Eugenics Societies. Rudin thus became official leader of the world racist movement, dedicated to sterilization of mental patients, euthanasia execution of the insane and the terminally ill, and prevention of births to parents from "inferior" blood stocks.

The New York Times gave favorable front-page coverage to the Eugenics Congress as a "distinguished gathering of scientists from many parts of the world."

Harriman-nominee Rudin went back to Germany. Hitler was soon installed in power, and Rudin wrote Hitler's "Law for the Prevention of Hereditary Diseases in Posterity." This sterilization law was printed in the September 1933 Eugenical News (U.S.A.) with Chancellor Hitler's signature, and advertised therein as an American Model Law. Anthropologist Josef Mengele, later notorious for his crimes at Auschwitz, wrote reports for special courts which enforced Rudin's racial purity law against cohabitation of Aryans and non-Aryans.

A quarter-million Germans were sterilized: mental patients, blind, deaf, and alcoholics. Rudin and his associates trained physicians and psychiatrists as sterilizers and as killers. They killed first at euthanasia centers, then at slave camps and racial extermination centers.

In 1943, Mengele was assigned as medical commandant of Auschwitz. His boss, Othmar Verschuer, wartime director of Rockefeller's Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Human Heredity, and Genetics in Berlin, got money for Mengele's experiments at Auschwitz from the German Research Council, to which Verschuer reported: "My co-researcher in this research is my assistant the anthropologist and physician Mengele. He is serving as Hauptsturmführer and camp doctor in the concentration camp Auschwitz. . . . With the permission of the Reichsführer SS Himmler, anthropological research is being undertaken on the various racial groups in the concentration camps and blood samples will be sent to my laboratory for investigation."

Mengele constantly checked the railroad lines leading into Auschwitz, looking for twins, and other interesting persons, on whom to perform heredity experiments. Needles were injected into eyes for work on eye color. Organs and limbs were removed, sometimes without anesthetics. Sex changes were attempted. Females were sterilized, males were castrated. Those killed were autopsied at the Verschuer-grant laboratory next to the crematory, which was burning bodies to hide the evidence. Various organs, eyes, heads, and limbs were sent to Rockefeller's employee Verschuer at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.

In 1946, Verschuer wrote to the Bureau of Human Heredity in London, asking for help in continuing his "scientific research." In 1947, the Bureau of Human Heredity, moved from London to Copenhagen. The new Danish building for this was built with Rockefeller money. Verschuer soon became a member of the American Eugenics Society, headquartered in Rockefeller Center. . . .

[Revolt426]

Revolt youve lost every argument... Go check Endgame the Queen never showed at Bilderberg Alex mentions a secret meeting the week prior... Check your facts...

Where the hell have I mentioned Eugenics.... Change the post every time you lose an argument...

No she is only caught on video by alex jones, and he actually announces it lol.. you are the biggest liar i have EVER SEEN.

[robertcalm]

I have watched Endgame... Watch Alex ... Never ever seen this clip.... Checked youtube surprisingly its not there.... Stop calling people liars when you cant prove your point....

Revolt all you have done is gone around in a circle and proven yourself wrong...

Why .... are you arguing when you know yourself you are wrong...

[lovealexjones]

uk time 5am.

[Revolt426]

I have watched Endgame... Watch Alex ... Never ever seen this clip.... Checked youtube surprisingly its not there.... Stop calling people liars when you cant prove your point....

Revolt all you have done is gone around in a circle and proven yourself wrong...

Why .... are you arguing when you know yourself you are wrong...

Everyone in This forum that has watched End Game can attest that Alex caught the queen on camera and even said "Oh look, It's the queen!"...... Continue your nonsense so i can continue to debunk it, it's fun!

[robertcalm]

I think youll find that was Queen Beatrice of the Netherlands....

See you dont even know what you are talking about...


heres the clip
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9eHfIfPzU

[Revolt426]

I think youll find that was Queen Beatrice of the Netherlands....

See you dont even know what you are talking about...


heres the clip
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9eHfIfPzU

You know what, you may be right on that one. You see, i admit when i am wrong, None the less, the Queen of England still attended the meeting. If you think she didn't you are delussional. So lets see the score , based on accuracy here: Revolt426 500 Robertcalm 1. Alright you scored!

[Revolt426]

Make it Revolt426 501 Robertcalm 1.. SORRY
Here is your mainstream, WIKI source of  Royalty attending:
So here is a documented record of Prince Charles and Prince Phillip, the Queens HUSBAND, attending. So i would assume the Queen may have attended as well, perhaps along with her husband?. If those years are correct it also prooves Prince Phillip and Bernhard were collaborating lol. I would also look into the Committe of 300, which the Queen of England runs.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_attendees

Royalty
Prince Philip (1965, 1966, 1967), Duke of Edinburgh
Prince Charles (1986), Prince of Wales
Prince Bernhard (Chairman of Bilderberg Meetings 1954-1976), father of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands[3]
Claus von Amsberg (1967, 1968, 1971, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1986-1989), husband of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Willem-Alexander, Prince of Orange (1990, 1991, 1996, 2001, 2008), Crown Prince of the Netherlands
Juan Carlos I, King of Spain (1989)
Queen Sofia of Spain, wife of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain (1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1996)
Infanta Cristina, Duchess of Palma de Mallorca, younger daughter of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant (1992, 1993, 1996, 2008), Crown Prince of Belgium
Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, King of Sweden (1995)
Harald V of Norway, King of Norway (1984)
Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein (1985, 1986, 1987)
Prince Axel of Denmark (1955, 1957)
Prince Henrik of Denmark (1966)

[Revolt426]

In the Illuminati hierarchy, Bilderberg Group is above/controls the CFR, RIIA, and Trilateral Commission. It is composed of Kings, Queens, Princes, and Princesses, Presidents and Prime Ministers from all over the world, IMF/World Bank/Federal Reserve heads, US Senators, CFR members, EU Commissioners, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Journalists, TV News Anchors, CEOs, and more. The last six heads of NATO have been from the Bilderberg Group. In 1991 Bill Clinton was invited and the next year became president. Hillary has also been to Bilderberg. Other notable attendees include: Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Dan Quayle, Alan Greenspan, Gerald Ford, Henry Kissinger, Richard Pearle, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, William Perry, Prince Charles, Prince Philip, King Juan Carlos and Queen Sophia of Spain, Queen Beatrix and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, Peter Jennings, Rupert Murdoch, William F. Buckley Jr., Nelson, Jay and David Rockefeller, Jacob, Guy, Evelyn, Emma, and Lynn Forester Rothschild, Sigmund and Eric Warburg.

Bilderberg member Prince Philip, in his own publication, If I Were an Animal, brags about how he would kill eighty percent of the population; how his great dream is to come back as a virus.” -Alex Jones, 911 Descent into Tyranny

Ok i'll stop now, i have better things to do then argue about wheather or not the Royalty of England are evil.

[ES]

Make it Revolt426 501 Robertcalm 1.. SORRY
Here is your mainstream, WIKI source of  Royalty attending:
So here is a documented record of Prince Charles and Prince Phillip, the Queens HUSBAND, attending. So i would assume the Queen may have attended as well, perhaps along with her husband?. If those years are correct it also prooves Prince Phillip and Bernhard were collaborating lol. I would also look into the Committe of 300, which the Queen of England runs.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_attendees

Royalty
Prince Philip (1965, 1966, 1967), Duke of Edinburgh
Prince Charles (1986), Prince of Wales
Prince Bernhard (Chairman of Bilderberg Meetings 1954-1976), father of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands[3]
Claus von Amsberg (1967, 1968, 1971, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1986-1989), husband of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Willem-Alexander, Prince of Orange (1990, 1991, 1996, 2001, 2008), Crown Prince of the Netherlands
Juan Carlos I, King of Spain (1989)
Queen Sofia of Spain, wife of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain (1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1996)
Infanta Cristina, Duchess of Palma de Mallorca, younger daughter of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant (1992, 1993, 1996, 2008), Crown Prince of Belgium
Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, King of Sweden (1995)
Harald V of Norway, King of Norway (1984)
Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein (1985, 1986, 1987)
Prince Axel of Denmark (1955, 1957)
Prince Henrik of Denmark (1966)

Dude hate to say it but if you didn't know that that was the queen of the neatherlands, then you obviously are not nearly as informed as you think you are. Put down the Tarpley government will save us bullshit and get down with liberty. And buy some food and guns while your at it.  

[Revolt426]

Dude hate to say it but if you didn't know that that was the queen of the neatherlands, then you obviously are not nearly as informed as you think you are. Put down the Tarpley government will save us bullshit and get down with liberty. And buy some food and guns while your at it.  

I am not entitled to believe in a different system then you? I thought that was against the forum policy. None the less, I still believe in Tarpleys solutions, as in, putting the entire financial system into bankruptcy reorganization and freezing derivatives.

I apologize for not knowing the difference between two evil monarchs that collaborate with each other! Excuse me!, Not to mention the Queen's name was never mentioned in endgame, she was just referrred to as "The Queen" in a blurred image.

As for Tarpley, his information has been right nearly 100% of the time, so i dont see what you are getting at.

[Dig]

I really do not see much difference in the tyranny of rothschild/rockefeller/beatrix.

All royal/elite scumsuckers.

I believe that Beatrix was the attendee at bilderberg.

I do believe that queen elizabeth is an elite pig genocidal maniac.

And I believe that the British Royal Family (along with elite industrial americans) funded hitler and his rise to power in order to break up a huge bavarian power base.

I believe they have tried to do the same with the US right now (and they have bankrupted us).

Not sure what all that means except that the poor british royals are probably not innocent.

[doorbell]

Royals being blackmailed?

And George Bush is an innocent idiot.

And Mao was just cleaning the streets.

And Stalin was a patriot to Mother Russia.

And Hitler was an innocent painter.

WTF?

These people wish to genocide over 6 Billion humans!

"When I die, I would like to be reincarnated as a virus so I can finally fix this population issue." -British Royal
These things are not human. Search under reptilians and then match up mans history with the bible. There is more going on here than meets the eye. Keep an open mind. Without that, how would you expect to find the truth. ( GIANTS AND PLANET X) Go for it. The truth IS stranger than fiction.