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The National Archives has just received the materials of the 9/11 commission. http://www.archives.gov/These are the notes and interviews and reports the 9/11 commission is now letting the public see, that they based their story on. Lets grab one and take a look..... In this "Memorandum for the Record" is reported a discussion among Banking experts, assisting the 9/11 Commission. This occurred on March 8 2004 http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfWho are these experts? Well turns out there are three... "Present, non-Commission: John Byrne (ABA), Nick Caruso (Riggs), Allen Able (Price Waterhouse Coopers)"http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfHere's some Nuggets from this memorandum... "The purpose of this interview was to engage representatives of the banking industry on the changes in anti money laundering (AML) and anti terrorist financing (ATF) compliance since 9/11, with a particular focus on the USA PATRIOT Act (USAPA)."Here they admit that the money laundering bills were already written and have nothing to do with terrorism..... "The USAP was a compilation of old AML bills that "never would have seen the light of day" were it not for 9/11."http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdf"The panel characterized the USPA as an "understandable knee jerk reaction" to the attacks, but they characterized it as not thought through. Byrne noted that you had to look hard to find anything really related to terrorist financing within the USPA, although the account opening requirements may be useful in
that regard.""The panel noted that while the USPA doesn't have much specific to terrorism in it, it is generally perceived that way, particularly to bank management. As a result, it has bolstered compliance resources at the banks.""With regard to good things coming out of the USAPA, the panel said that the 319(b) sharing provisions, which allows banks to obtain financial information from other banks for the purpose of investigating suspicious activity, was very helpful. The only problem is that it does not cover foreign banks that operate in the US."http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfNow it gets really good......cover up time.... "9/11 hijackers
"Each member of the panel was familiar with the 9/11 hijackers financial transactions and each has come to the conclusion that a better scrutiny of the financial transactions would not have resulted in discovering them." page 3/4 http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfOh really?............................ |
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Now it gets really good......cover up time.... "9/11 hijackers
"Each member of the panel was familiar with the 9/11 hijackers financial transactions and each has come to the conclusion that a better scrutiny of the financial transactions would not have resulted in discovering them." page 3/4 http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfOh really?............................ Who are these guys again? "Present, non-Commission: John Byrne (ABA), Nick Caruso (Riggs), Allen Able (Price Waterhouse Coopers)"http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfByrne is at the time Senior Counsel and Compliance Manager with the American Bankers Association. Able represents Price Waterhouse Coopers.... "PricewaterhouseCoopers (or PwC) is the world's largest professional services firm."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PricewaterhouseCoopers#Politics_and_public_serviceAnd Caruso evidently represents Riggs Bank!! But in what way? Who is this guy?...Because the bank, is the corrupt bank of the ruling elites who were using it to assist the hijacker patsies. Isn't that interesting? But should they be here at all considering they are involved in at least a passing way? I mean how obvious can a cover up get? Don't they even care how this appears? Are they even being questioned or are they just giving advice? "The panel noted that while the USPA doesn't have much specific to terrorism in it, it is generally perceived that way, particularly to bank management. As a result, it has bolstered compliance resources at the banks."http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfBolstered compliance resources at the banks? Hey that just minded me of this article about how this Byrne guy left the ABA for a job at Bank of America.....can't blame a guy for going where "resources are being bolstered". "John Byrne Joins Bank of America from ABA"
"Will play key Anti-Money Laundering role at bank""CHARLOTTE – Bank of America announced today the appointment of John J. Byrne to the position of Anti-Money Laundering Strategy Executive in the bank’s Compliance Risk Management Division."http://newsroom.bankofamerica.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=7095I don't know who this Nick Caruso is that is representing Riggs, I'm wondering if it is in fact a David Caruso who was hired from the secret service shortly before this meeting to clean up Riggs... "David Caruso
Chief Executive Officer" "Prior to forming the Dominion Advisory Group in May 2005, David was the Executive Vice President, Compliance & Security of Riggs Bank NA. In 2003, he was hired to build a regulatory compliance, investigations, and security department in response to the 2003 enforcement actions against Riggs. David led the development and implementation of a Bank Secrecy Act (BSA)/AML program across all consumer, commercial, investment and international business lines. He was also responsible for reporting on the bank's efforts to resolve its regulatory challenges to the Board of Directors, senior examination and headquarters staff of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) and Federal Reserve Bank, senior Department of Justice officials and the staff of several Congressional committees.""David began his career as a Special Agent with the U.S. Secret Service before being hired to manage the anti-money laundering and enhanced due diligence group at JP Morgan & Company."http://www.dominion-advisors.com/company/leadershipI mean, how many Caruso's could there be at Riggs top management in 2004? Anyone know if Nick and David are two different people? Remember this meeting with the 9/11 commission was 3/8/04. Two months later this comes out.... Fed Orders Riggs to Take Corrective Measures By Kathleen Day
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 14, 2004; 12:43 PM
Riggs Bank agreed yesterday to pay a record $25 million in civil penalties for what federal regulators called a "willful, systemic" violation of anti-money-laundering law.
Regulators said the bank failed to report, detect or even look for clearly suspicious transactions in accounts related to foreign embassies.
Riggs officials have acknowledged years of deficiencies in reporting to law enforcement hundreds of millions of dollars in suspicious financial transactions by foreign customers, particularly those connected with the embassies of Saudi Arabia and Equatorial Guinea.
The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, in a consent order yesterday, said Riggs also failed to identify or monitor such activities as a transfer of more than $1 million from an Equatorial Guinean account to a private investment company owned by the Riggs manager supervising the account. It also cited tens of millions of dollars in cash withdrawals and the writing of dozens of sequentially numbered cashier's checks on Saudi accounts.
Riggs agreed to the fines without admitting or denying guilt.
"The facts of this case demonstrate Riggs's systemic failure to comply with its obligations under the Bank Secrecy Act," FinCen director William J. Fox said in a prepared statement. He said the problems at Riggs are not typical of the banking industry, though some members of Congress have wondered if they are more widespread.
"The risks of that business became apparent after Sept. 11, when the FBI began combing the bank's records. In July, regulators had become so concerned about the bank's lack of controls that the comptroller issued a consent order, and in recent weeks the comptroller designated Riggs a "troubled institution." That means Riggs can make no management changes without the approval of the federal government."
"In addition to announcing Joe Allbritton's departure, Riggs has said it will give up most of its international banking business, which accounts for 23 percent of its $4.2 billion in deposits, by the end of September."
"The Allbritton family will continue to control 43 percent of the company's stock."http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27015-2004May14?language=printerHere's a little more on this Bank that is "helping" the 9/11 commission...... "In 1909, Riggs' president formally presented to the U.S. Congress a plan for economic relief. Many financial reforms were implemented as a result of this plan, including the establishment of the Federal Reserve in 1913." "A Saudi named Omar al-Bayoumi housed and opened bank accounts for two of the 9/11 hijackers. About two weeks after the assistance began, al-Bayoumi's wife began receiving monthly payments totaling tens of thousands of dollars from Princess Haifa bint Faisal, the wife of Saudi ambassador and Bush family confidant, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, through a Riggs bank account.""Upon discovery of these transactions, the FBI began investigating the bank for possible money-laundering and terrorist financing. Although the FBI and later the 9/11 Commission ultimately stated that the money was not intentionally being routed to fund terrorists, investigators were surprised to see how lax the safeguards at Riggs Bank were. Several Saudi accounts were discovered to have financial improprieties, including a lack of required background checks and a consistent failure to alert regulators to large transactions, in violation of federal banking laws.""Many of these transactions involved Prince Bandar personally, often transferring over $1 million at a time. According to British investigations on the Al Yamamah deal, reported by The Guardian, Bandar would have received over $ 1.5 billion in bribery from BAE Systems, laundered through the Riggs Bank""Riggs Bank was fined $25 million for violations of money-laundering laws. A long running Justice Department investigation was wrapped up quickly in Feb. 2005 with Riggs pleading guilty and paying a $16 million fine for violations for the U.S. Bank Secrecy Act after a Wall Street Journal article reported 12/31/04 that Riggs had extensive ties to the CIA, including that several bank officials held security clearances."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riggs_Bank"The probe had started post 9/11 when most of the hijackers turned out to be Saudis and there were suspicions they might have been receiving funding via the Saudi embassy.""Mr Caruso had never spoken before in detail before about the Saudi embassy accounts he was asked to look at in 2003 by Riggs Bank - bankers to Prince Bandar and his embassy in Washington.""Mr Caruso confirmed to us that the accounts we were interested in had been used as a personal piggy bank by the Prince."http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/6718831.stm"Riggs Bank in America was the banker to Prince Bandar and his embassy in Washington. Among its accounts was one in the name of the Saudi Ministry of Defence and Aviation."http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/apr2008/bae-a15.shtml"Some of that money was traced to Omar al-Bayoumi, a resident of San Diego for a number of years." "Al-Bayoumi told some people he was a student at San Diego State University, and others that he was a pilot for the Saudi national airline. Neither account was true." "He did, however, work for Dallah Avco, an aviation-services company contracted to the Saudi Ministry of Defence and Aviation."http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2002/12/01/story734144528.asp The FBI states that al-Bayoumi assisted the 9/11 hijackers that the CIA were monitoring, and is a Saudi Intelligence agent who introduces them to an FBI Informant who becomes their landlord. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php/topic,51281.msg450648.html#msg450648Prince Bandar himself here admits Saudi Arabia were monitoring these hijackers "with precision". "Speaking to the Arabic satellite network Al-Arabiya on Thursday, Bandar -- now Abdullah's national security adviser -- said Saudi intelligence was "actively following" most of the September 11, 2001, plotters "with precision.""If U.S. security authorities had engaged their Saudi counterparts in a serious and credible manner, in my opinion, we would have avoided what happened," he said. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/index.htmlWouldn't it be interesting to see what Prince Bandar told them? His interview is one of the documents they released. Bush says, that's his buddy, and therefor falls under "National Security". Here's what it says..... "Pages: 3
ACCESS RESTRICTED
The item identified below has been withdrawn from this file:
Folder Title: Prince Bandar
Document Date: 10-07-2003
Document Type: Memo of Conversation"http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01177.pdf"Dropping the account of a politically exposed person (PEP) can be an administrative burden for banks requiring thorough documentation to satisfy bank examiners.""For instance, when Riggs Bank hired David Caruso in 2003 to head its beleaguered anti-money laundering compliance division, he made a decision to close over 100 PEP accounts.""In 2003, Washington, D.C.-based Riggs Bank was slapped with a regulatory consent order and in the following year was fined $25 million for failing to report suspicious transactions made with accounts for governments and PEPs from several countries, including Saudi Arabia and Equatorial Guinea. Riggs was also found to be hiding accounts for Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. The bank’s regulatory woes led to the institution agreeing to sell itself to PNC Financial Services Group in 2004.""That includes caution in closing an account, since closing it can tip off a PEP that he or she is being investigated and compromise a government investigation, said Lee. “[Also] to close [a PEP account] in such as way that the PEP knows that there have been SARs filed could be a government violation, so it can be tricky.” "Lee recommends that a bank contact FinCEN and ask it to act as a liaison with law enforcement before closing the account. “The government may want the account to stay open so it knows what’s going on in the account.”http://www.dominion-advisors.com/system/files/DA_Fortent-2007_05_08.pdf"Administration officials reluctantly confirmed to NEWSWEEK that money had moved from Princess Haifa's account to al-Bayoumi, but they stressed that they do not know the purpose of the payments or whether any Saudi officials were even aware of them. "The facts are unclear, and there's no need to rush to judgment," said one administration official. In meetings with intelligence committee leaders, Vice President Dick Cheney, Attorney General John Ashcroft and others have adamantly rejected attempts to declassify the information, citing national-security concerns.""Senate Intelligence Committee co-chairman Robert Graham of Florida, a Democrat, and Richard Shelby of Alabama, a Republican, believe that the FBI failed to fully investigate 9-11. The lawmakers suspect that the administration does not want to look too closely at Saudi connections to the hijackers."http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2007/06/bandar-gate-usa-riggs-bank-connection.html"Isikoff said the timing of the Riggs Bank payments, which began just a couple months after they arrived in the United States, has raised questions about whether Saudi government money found its way to the two hijackers."http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/11/23/saudi.fbi.911/index.htmlIn 1997 Riggs bought an interesting investment company.... "Chairman and CEO Jonathan Bush founded J. Bush & Company in 1970. Mr. Bush has longstanding family and professional ties to Connecticut. He serves on the Boards of Directors of the United Negro College Fund and Yale New Haven Hospital. Mr. Bush is the son of the late Senator Prescott Bush, and the brother of former President George Bush." "J. Bush & Company, Inc., is headquartered in New Haven, Connecticut. Since 1997, J. Bush & Company has been an independent wholly owned subsidiary of Riggs Bank, the second oldest commercial bank in the nation." "We currently require a minimum investment of $1 million. Our annual fees are based on a percentage of assets under management."http://www.georgesinger.com/riggsbank/3investments/03_11_02__jbush.html Oh and the head of the SEC at this time 2003-2004 was a fellow named William H. Donaldson, who was a fellow classmate of Jonathan Bush at Yale and..... "Donaldson graduated with a bachelor's degree in American Studies from Yale University in 1953 and was a member of Skull & Bones.""On February 28, 2003, investment banker William H. Donaldson became the 27th Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. He was nominated to the position by President George W. Bush on December 10, 2002."http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_H._DonaldsonBut according to this 9/11 commission memorandum, that Riggs bank assisted them with......... "9/11 hijackers"
"Each member of the panel was familiar with the 9/11 hijackers financial transactions and each has come to the conclusion that a better scrutiny of the financial transactions would not have resulted in discovering them." page 3/4 http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00018.pdfThat's a nice spin, but the facts of 9/11 are most if not all of the so called hijackers were under surveillance by the CIA, but the CIA has officially only admitted they were tracking two. Oh...and they "accidentally" let those two into the country. And they finally, supposedly, told the FBI about them in August a few weeks before 9/11. This is admitted in the Senate congress joint investigation. Also in the joint inquiry was this... "The Chief of the FBI’s Financial Review Group – which had been only a section in the FBI’s White Collar Crime Unit before September 11-- and the Director of the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) both testified before the Joint Inquiry that, prior to September 11, they had capabilities to develop leads on terrorist suspects and link them to other terrorists and to terrorist funding sources.""They both agreed that they would have been able to locate Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar in the United States in August 2001, if asked, through credit card and bank information. The use of these capabilities in the first weeks after September 11 enabled the FBI, with assistance from the Secret Service, to connect almost all of the 19 hijackers to each other very quickly by linking bank accounts, credit cards, debit cards, address checks, and telephones. Despite the existence of those capabilities, the FBI did not seek their assistance in the search for al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar in late August 2001."http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/pdf/fullreport_errata.pdf "They both agreed that they would have been able to locate Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar in the United States in August 2001, if asked, through credit card and bank information."And the 9/11 commission is trying to say they wouldn't have found these guys? They're spinning...no actually lieing .......trying to imply these terrorists weren't even known. They were, and they could have been easily found. They are covering this up disgracefully. |
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 09:01:53 PM » |
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I mean, how many Caruso's could there be at Riggs top management in 2004? Anyone know if Nick and David are two different people?
There is a Nick Caruso who was CFO at Shell Oil and Dynegy Inc. - but I haven't found a link to Riggs yet. If you are sure this Nick here cannot be the one you are looking for feel free to delete the post. Press Release Source: Dynegy Inc.
Dynegy Names Nick J. Caruso Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Company also announces organizational changes in finance and accounting areas
HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 2, 2002--Dynegy Inc. (NYSE:DYN - News) today announced that Nick J. Caruso has been named executive vice president and chief financial officer effective immediately. In this capacity, Caruso will be responsible for Dynegy's financial affairs, including treasury, tax, investor relations, risk management, internal audit, and lender and credit rating agency relationships. He will report to Bruce A. Williamson, president and chief executive officer.
Caruso, 56, spent more than 30 years with Shell Oil Company in positions of increasing responsibility until his retirement last year. He last served as vice president of finance and chief financial officer and was responsible for the controller's organization and the company's treasury, insurance and audit functions. In addition, he worked directly with Shell's board of directors to develop and implement internal controls, review financial results and prepare financial statements. Prior to being named CFO, Caruso served as Shell's controller and general auditor. In this position, he was responsible for internal control systems, accounting policies and procedures and the audit program.
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/DYN/518817854x0xS899243-02-3070/879215/filing.pdfAlso here: http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2002-12-02-dynegy-cfo_x.htm |
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 04:37:27 PM » |
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There is a Nick Caruso who was CFO at Shell Oil and Dynegy Inc. - but I haven't found a link to Riggs yet. If you are sure this Nick here cannot be the one you are looking for feel free to delete the post.
I don't see how the "Shell" Nick Caruso is this "Riggs" Nick Caruso... Nick comes out of retirement from Shell to work with "troubled" with federal probes Dynegy... So he was "available retired" Dec 2001 - Dec 2002 but that wasn't during the 9/11 Panel I just don't think the "Shell Oil" Nick is "Riggs" Nick.... It's not mentioned anywhere .... And Nick is not David ? I mean they wouldn't confuse the names over and over and call David, Nick and put it to print, no way? So who is/was the "Riggs bank" "Nick Caruso" ? Another mystery.... http://www.cctexans.com/newsletters/2005-10_Newsletter.htmNick Caruso, vice president: Nick was born in New Orleans, LA in 1946 and attended Catholic schools in the New Orleans area. He married Bonnie in 1968 and graduated LSU in 1969, majoring in accounting. He has two still-single sons, Marc, 30, who lives in Colorado and Bradley, 23, who attends Texas State University in San Marcos. Nick worked 32 years for Shell Oil Company in all aspects of finance at a major oil company and retired as CFO in December, 2001. He had Shell Oil Company assignments in New Orleans, Houston, Bakersfield, California; Manila, Philippines; Tunisia, North Africa; and Rio De Janeiro, Brazil. He reentered the work force in 2002, working as CFO for Dynegy Inc, in Houston. He anticipates his second retirement in December, 2005. The Carusos’ first motorhome was an ’82 BlueBird in 2000. They then bought their current ‘99 Country Coach Affinity in 2003 and joined Country Coach Texans. In June, 2005, Nick & Bonnie relocated to Boerne, TX and now enjoy life in the Texas Hill Country. Nick’s toys include a ’66 Corvette convertible, ’69 Camaro Z-28, and a ’93 Harley Davidson low rider. He is also an avid NASCAR and NHRA fan. http://www.treasuryandrisk.com/Issues/2003/December-January%202003/Pages/People-On-The-Move.aspxCARUSO NAMED DYNEGY CFO 01/01/2003 Houston-based Dynegy Inc. revamped its finance leadership for the third time in recent months by reinstating the office of CFO and bringing in a retired Shell Oil Co. executive to fill it. Nick Caruso, 56, will also serve as executive vice president of the $42.2 billion energy company, which is struggling financially and has been dogged by several federal probes, including SEC charges of accounting improprieties that Dynegy paid a $3 million fine to settle.... Also found this interesting white paper by David Caruso: http://www.world-check.com/media/d/content_whitepaper_reference/whitepaper-3.pdfREPUTATION DAMAGE: The Price Riggs Paid |
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 01:59:57 PM » |
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Let's take a look at another MFR the 9/11 commission has released, this one concerning al-Bayoumi and his links with the government of Saudi Arabia. They have a different take on this guy than the FBI documents released and the Senate and congress joint Inquiry, according to this 9/11 commission MFR, he's just a nice buffoon. The 9/11 commission states that the hijackers had no assistance from any government or government officials. This is another cover up the Commission was assigned.If you don't like what the FBI is finding you might want to take the leader off the case and put him thousands of miles away ...let's say... Paris...and replace him with a yes man that will tell you what you want to hear. It looks like their own document says that he is not the expert that knows the details of this investigation........ <<redacted>> was an FCI agent prior to 9/11. Today he is working in counterintelligence again. Immediately after 9/11, the FBI took 9 FCI agents off the JTTF and assigned them to work Pentbom.<<redacted>> was assigned to the Bayoumi team. He became the team leader when the head of the squad was reassigned as the Assistant Legat in Paris. When he took over as team leader, <<redacted>>sent a summary package to Ryan Plunkett in NY. <<redacted>> said he did not know a lot of the details of the investigation because he was mostly involved with managing the team. <<redacted>> took over the team in April 2002. He said that <<redacted>>would know more about Bayoumi than he did, and so would agents <<redacted and redacted>>.<<redacted>> were the FBI agents who found Bayoumi's address in
England. They found this information through <<redacted>> who owns a <<redacted>> in downtown SanDiego and had Bayoumi's address.<<redacted>>does not believe there is anything suspicious about Bayoumi. He stated that initial reports about Bayoumi financing the hijackers' apartment in San Diego were not accurate. Moreover <<redacted>> said that Isamu Dyson was <<redacted>> and therefore his recollection is somewhat suspect. <<redacted>> believed the Joint Inquiry put far too much emphasis on Dyson's account of events.<<redacted>> thought that Bayoumi tried to act like a "big shot", but he was nothing more than that. <<redacted>>said he has been working foreign counter-intelligence since 1997, and if Bayoumi was a <<redacted>> then he was the sloppiest <<reacted>> <<redacted>> had ever seen. <<redacted>> believed that Bayoumi might simply have tried to "juice up" his image with <<redacted>> but that was the extent of his work for <<redacted>>. <<redacted>> believed that the meeting at the Mediterranean restaurant was simply happenstance. Although we will likely never know what was discussed at the meeting at <<redacted>> just prior to Bayoumi running into the hijackers, <<redacted>> believed it was unlikely that Bayoumi received any instructions. <<redacted>> conceded that the discrepancy between the accounts of Bayoumi and Dyson as to whether they visited the King Fahad Mosque after meeting the hijackers could be significant, but he would be inclined to believe Bayoumi. <<redacted>>knew nothing about the reporting that Bayoumi told others he was traveling to Los Angelos that day to pick up visitors at the airport.<<redacted>> did not think Bayoumi was very intelligent. He described him as a "flim-flam man." I did not think that Bayoumi even knew that Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Midhar were connected to al Qaeda. He did not think it would be out of line for Bayoumi to have asked Modhar Abdullah for generic help for visitors, or that the hijackers may have approached Bayoumi looking for help with housing in San Diego.http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00454.pdfAnd yet, there are a bunch of FBI documents produced during the investigation that Bayoumi and his replacement Osama Basnan were both agents working for Saudi Arabia. Here's one report, the title of which admits there are connections between the hijackers and the Saudi Arabian Government..... Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects
to the Government of Saudi Arabiahttp://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf4. Associations: Closely associated with <<redacted>>Ambassador Prince Bandar).5. Telephonic Contacts: 27 calls between<<redacted>>Cell phone and the Saudi Embassy in WDC (4/2000 to 4/2002); eight calls between <<redacted>> cell phone and Princess Haifa's office (12/2000 to 412002); 17 calls from <<redacted>>home to the Saudi Consulate in LA (8/2002). Claims to have been in telephonic contact with King Fahd's grandson or great grandson.http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdfThat was Osama Basnan they are describing who replaced Bayoumi... Osama Basnan http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a101792basnanblindsheikhnow they are describing al-Bayoumi...... Background: Citizen of Saudi Arabia; DOB <<redacted>>entered the U.S. via Los Angeles in 1993 on a student visa, met with Flight #77 hijackers Nawaf A!-Hazmi and Khalid AMihdhar in L.A. in January 2000 just after their arrival; invited Al-Hazmi and AI-Mihdhar to San Diego; arranged an apartment for the hijackers in his complex, occasionally paid rent on the hijacker's apartment, hosted a party/reception for them and cosigned their apartment lease as guarantor Detained and interviewed for seven days <<redacted>>.http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdfLet's take a closer look at this..... 5. Telephonic Contacts: 27 calls between<<redacted>>Cell phone and the Saudi Embassy in WDC (4/2000 to 4/2002); eight calls between <<redacted>> cell phone and Princess Haifa's office (12/2000 to 412002); 17 calls from <<redacted>>home to the Saudi Consulate in LA (8/2002). Claims to have been in telephonic contact with King Fahd's grandson or great grandson.Who is Princess Haifa? She is the wife of Prince Bandar, and her brother was head of Saudi Intelligence. Here you can watch Prince Bandar himself confess, I mean admit, that Saudi Arabia Intelligence were tracking all the 9/11 "plotters" with precision. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/index.html#cnnSTCVideoBandar -- now Abdullah's national security adviser -- said Saudi intelligence was "actively following" most of the September 11, 2001, plotters "with precision."http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/index.htmlThese guys were working with a so called FBI Informant. And so who was that "FBI" informant really working for? Saudi Intelligence or CIA? According to Bush it's no ones business. "The Administration has to date objected to the Inquiry’s efforts to interview the informant in order to attempt to resolve those inconsistencies. The Administration also would not agree to allow the FBI to serve a Committee subpoena and deposition notice on the informant. Instead, written interrogatories from the Joint Inquiry were, at the suggestion of the FBI, provided to the informant. Through an attorney, the informant has declined to respond to those interrogatories and has indicated that, if subpoenaed, the informant would request a grant of immunity prior to testifying."http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/pdf/fullreport_errata.pdfAnd what was that informants FBI handler working on at the time? He was trying to tell his bosses about that money flow from the Saudi Arabian embassy evidently........ "Government officials told U.S. News that Butler disclosed that he had been monitoring a flow of Saudi Arabian money that wound up in the hands of two of the 9/11 hijackers. The two men had rented a room from a man Butler had used as a confidential informant, the sources say. According to officials familiar with his account, Butler said that he had alerted his superiors about the money flows but the warning went nowhere. "Butler is claiming ... that people [in the FBI] didn't follow up," says a congressional source. Adds another: "He saw a pattern, a trail, and he told his supervisors, but it ended there."[/i] http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/features/saudi_021129.htmWe can prove the CIA was also aware of all the hijackers but since they will admit only being aware of these two I'll just use these two as examples of how they kept this information for themselves in order to keep tabs on what they were up to. This according to the Senate Congress joint inquiry.... "The CIA and NSA had sufficient information available concerning future
hijackers al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi to connect them to Usama Bin Ladin, the East Africa embassy bombings, and the USS Cole attack by late 2000, and there were at least three different occasions when these individuals should have been placed on the State Department’s TIPOFF watchlist and the INS and Customs watchlists. Nonetheless, this was not done, nor was the FBI notified of their potential presence in the United States until late August 2001.""It was not until September 11, 2001 that the Los Angeles FBI field office was asked to conduct a search. Other FBI offices with potentially useful informants, such as San Diego, were not notified prior to September 11."Neither was INS asked by the FBI to use means available to it, including a search of the Law Enforcement Support Center’s database, to locate al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi when the FBI was looking for them in the United States in August 2001. INS and FAA officials who testified at the Joint Inquiry’s October 1, 2002 hearing asserted that their agencies might have been able to assist the FBI in locating the two if the FBI had told them of the purpose and importance of the search.http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/pdf/part1.pdfAnd then there is this document from the inquiry.... "Discussion: By early January 2000, CIA knew al-Mihdar's full name and that it was likely Nawaf's last name was al-hazmi, knew that they had attended what was believed to be a gathering of al-Qaida associates in Malaysia, was aware that they had been traveling together, and had documents indicating that al-mihdhar held a U.S. B-1B-2 multiple entry visa that would allow him to travel to and from the United States until April 6, 2000. CIA arranged surveillance of the meeting and the DCI was kept informed as the operation progressed.""Despite having all this information and despite the republication of CTC guidance regarding watchlisting procedures in December 1999, CIA did not add the names of these two individuals to the State Department, INS, and U.S. Customs Service watchlists that are used to deny individuals entry into the United States. The weight of the record also suggests that, despite providing the FBI with other, less critical, information about the Malaysia meeting, the CIA did not advise the FBI about al-Mihdhar's U.S. visa and the very real possibility that he would travel to the United States. The CIA stated its belief that the visa information was sent to the FBI and produced a cable indicating that this had been done."The FBI, for its part, had no record the visa information was received.http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/911project/jci-midhar-hazmi.pdfMaybe the CIA was deliberately keeping info from the FBI in order to keep their little secret surveillance of the hijackers secret...there is no maybe about it. Here it is from the DCI..... his own mouth admitting it..... ........... The DCI told the Joint Inquiry:
"We had at that point the level of detail needed to watchlist al-Mihdhar- that is, to nominate him to the State Department for refusal of entry into the U.S. or deny him another visa. Our officers remained focused on the surveillance operation and did not do so."http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/911project/jci-midhar-hazmi.pdf |
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2009, 12:26:51 AM » |
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"A Saudi named Omar al-Bayoumi housed and opened bank accounts for two of the 9/11 hijackers. About two weeks after the assistance began, al-Bayoumi's wife began receiving monthly payments totaling tens of thousands of dollars from Princess Haifa bint Faisal, the wife of Saudi ambassador and Bush family confidant, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, through a Riggs bank account."
And therein lies the rub. Because it was at Abdusattar Shaikh's house where al Hazmi and al Midhar stayed that Atta also visited. This is also the house that Hussein al Attas, fresh from Yuzid Sufaat's condo in Kuala Lampar Malaysia stayed at(before moving in with Moussaoui and Lattimore in Norman Oklahoma) CIA were told they couldnt share info that these two just met KSM and Hambali in Malaysia? LOL! People say WTC7 is the smoking gun...no, the true history of al Midhar and al Hazmi IS the smoking gun, from their days "fighting in Bosnian jihad" to the day of 9/11 itself. I've even seen mainstream articles that people connected to Ptech charities were housing and helping these guys! And Saudi diplomats were seen at BOTH the San Diego house *and* the Vienna Virginia house. In Falls Church some of the hijackers were housed by bin Laden terror charity(which was blocked from Robert Wright) WAMY. Also, isnt it ironic that one of the guys helping terrorists into the US, and associate of Abdusattar Sheikh owned the mansion the Heaven's Gate killed themselves in? Or that Ziad Jarrah trained under occult military specialist Bert Rodriguez in 2001?
"They both agreed that they would have been able to locate Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar in the United States in August 2001, if asked, through credit card and bank information."
And the 9/11 commission is trying to say they wouldn't have found these guys? They're spinning...no actually lieing .......trying to imply these terrorists weren't even known. They were, and they could have been easily found. They are covering this up disgracefully.
Haha, oh man. Does the 9/11 commission not know how protected these two were? From Able Danger, to CIA, to NSA, to the FBI these two were on everyone's radar. Even poisoned dentists in anytown USA! |
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2009, 12:30:55 AM » |
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Here's one of the BIGGEST smoking guns of 9/11, thanks to the FBI and FOIA http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20080216195228169* Around 10:00 a.m. on the morning of 9/11, a housekeeper at the Park Inn in Boston went to clean the room that hijackers Wail and Waleed Alshehri used the night before. She was confronted by a foreign male who told her that someone was still sleeping in the room and that she should come back around 1:00 p.m. The FBI was obviously puzzled by this, as the FBI’s timeline entry for this event ends with five question marks. * Some credit cards used by the hijackers were still used in the US after 9/11. For instance, a credit card jointly owned by Mohamed Atta and Marwan Alshehhi was used twice on September 15. This helps confirm news reports from late 2001 that hijacker credit cards were used on the East Coast as late as early October 2001. At the time, a government official said that while some of the cards might have been stolen, “We believe there are additional people out there” who helped the hijackers. * Security camera footage obtained by the FBI after 9/11 indicated that Khalid Almihdhar and possibly Salem Alhazmi cased Dulles Airport in Washington, D.C., the evening before 9/11. This fits the account of a security guard , related in Unsafe at Any Altitude by Joe and Susan Trento, who independently claimed to have seen two hijackers, Salem’s brother Nawaf and Marwan Alshehhi, casing Dulles Airport the night before 9/11. This guard claims the two hijackers were part of a group of five men, three of whom were dressed in United Airlines ramp worker uniforms, that behaved suspiciously. Despite a lawsuit by 9/11 victims’ relatives against United Airlines and others for negligence, the US government has never revealed the existence of this video footage which might support claims that the hijackers had inside help. * New evidence suggests that some of the hijackers were assisted by employees of the Saudi government. It has previously been reported that Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi who was paid by the Saudi government despite not doing any work, assisted hijackers Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi when they first moved to the US. The FBI timeline shows that when these two hijackers moved into their first San Diego apartment, they indicated that they had been living with Bayoumi in the apartment next door for the previous two weeks. In fact, they had been with him in that apartment since January 15, 2000, the very day they first flew into the US, arriving in Los Angeles. The timeline also reveals that hijacker Hani Hanjour was seen in Bayoumi’s apartment. * The new book The Commission by New York Times reporter Philip Shenon published last week further reveals that Bayoumi had close ties to Fahad al-Thumairy, a radical imam working in the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles. For instance, Bayoumi frequently called al-Thumairy while living next door to the two hijackers, and also frequently called the Saudi embassy in Washington, D.C. The book also reveals that the 9/11 Commission was aware of “explosive” revelations about the ties between Bayoumi, Thumairy, and the two hijackers, but the commission’s final report omitted “virtually all of the most serious allegations against the Saudis,” due to diplomatic considerations. Now, thanks to this FBI timeline, we are discovering more of this suppressed evidence relating to Saudi Arabia. * The FBI timeline shows other intriguing hints that the hijackers had associates in the US. For instance, on September 8, 2001, hijackers Majed Moqed and Hani Hanjour went to a bank with an unnamed Middle Eastern male. This man presented a Pennsylvania driver’s license for identification, but none of the 9/11 hijackers have been reported to have a driver’s license from that state. There is also a highly redacted section hinting that a woman in Laurel, Maryland, was helping Middle Eastern men and may have had links to hijackers Mohamed Atta and Ziad Jarrah. * Several months ago, the London Times reported on an al-Qaeda leader imprisoned in Turkey named Luai Sakra. Sakra claims to have trained six of the hijackers in Turkey, including Satam Al Suqami. The FBI’s timeline supports his account, because Al Suqami’s passport record indicates he spent much of his time between late September 2000 and early April 2001 in Turkey. Furthermore, Sakra claimed that Al Suqami was one of the hijacker leaders, and not just another “muscle” hijacker as US investigators have alleged. The FBI’s timeline supports this, because it shows that Al Suqami was frequently on the move from 1998 onwards, flying to Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Malaysia, as well as Turkey, and he travelled to most of these countries more than once. This is particularly important because contributors to the History Commons have put together evidence suggesting that Sakra was a CIA asset before 9/11, which would suggest that Al Suqami and other hijackers were actually trained by a CIA asset. FORGET WTC7! THIS IS HUUUUUGGGGEHijackers having inside help at the airports? Their credit cards being used AFTER 9/11? Hijackers having men inside their hotel rooms as they were in the air? How come more truthers dont talk about this? Hell how can anyone buy the official story after seeing this? |
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Isn't it great to see the records of the 9/11 commission after all this time? Here is the MFR of Sibel Edmonds testimony to the 9/11 commission. Enjoy your freedom as you go from one blank page to the next...... http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00236.pdf |
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I don't believe any of this was ever reported on, which means it was successfully kept from the press, and it seems to be news worthy, I'd never heard of any of this until seeing this recently released folder from the 9/11 commission files. Here is the folder on Intervia...... http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeActually I believe the correct spelling is Interavia (it's spelled both ways in reports) Read the files yourself, and see if you come to a different take on what is in this folder. From the FBI files (CIA and NSA files non existant or withdrawn)......... "FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
09/15/2001
"As part of her employment Emley was reviewing booking records and discovered that, on September 11, 2001, a company had booked a number of seats on American Airlines Flight 11. Interavia Pakistan, Ltd, (IPL) Karachi, Pakistan, had booked 7 seats on AA flight 11, bound from Boston to Los Angeles. The reservation had been made at 9:03 GMT.<<edit:--that is 4:03 AM NY Time, just a few hours before the hijackings>> reservations were made in a block of 4 and a block of 3 in the following names: Mr. K. Cooper, Mrs. S. Cooper, Ms. A. Cooper, Ms. P. Cooper.... Ms. 0. Noris, Ms. E. Noris, Ms. W. Noris. At the same time reservations for the listed subjects were also made on Trans World Airlines (TWA) flight 342, bound from Los Angeles to St. Louis. Both sets of reservations were made for flights on September 11, 2001. AA flight 11 was scheduled to depart at 7:45 a.m. eastern standard time....TWA flight 342 was scheduled to depart at at 7:55 pacific standard time.""In reviewing the record Emley realized that it was impossible for the passengers to use both reservations and became suspicious. Emley compared the reservations to a list of passengers who died on AA flight 11 which had been posted on the CNN web site. Emley was unable to locate the passengers listed on the reservations on the CNN list. Emley advised since the reservations are made via the Internet that they could be made from any computer with an Internet connection. All that would be needed is IPL's user ID and password. In addition Worldspan records indicated that no tickets were issued by IPL for the reservations and they were not paid for in advance. Records did indicate that AA had confirmed both reservations, AA record locater DUMSJF. Emley also advised the names on the reservations could be changed by any AA ticket agent. This is not the normal practice but does happen from time to time. In addition any individual with access to the AA ticketing system and knowledge of its use could change the reservations prior to the passengers arrival at the ticket counter. Worldspan does not receive information from the airlines which would indicate if a passenger took a particular flight or if changes to the reservation are made through the airline. In researching the reservation history of IPL Emley discovered that they have been a customer for approximately one year. Records indicate that IPL always makes same day reservations. Emley discovered that most flight reservations made by IPL are within 12 hours or less of the flight. In addition IPL normally makes reservations once daily and only logs on to the site for about thirty minutes. Emley provided information regarding the flights booked by IPL for September 15, 2001. Most of the flights booked had circuitous or conflicting times and/or routes. None of the flights booked for September 15, 2001 originated in North America."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeThis travel Agency in Karachi Pakistan is making suspicious reservations. But it was still going on after Sept 11, so there could be a non nefarious reason for it, however it can't be ignored. And in fact in the documents the agency is listed as a suspect. But in other documents it says the tickets were actually purchased, not just reservations, but purchases made for flight 11....... "AFTER SEPT 11 CRASHES SHE DID COMPUTER SEARCH AND FOUND THAT A COMPANY INTERAVIA-PAKISTAN LTD, BASED IN KARACHI PURCHASED TICKETS THE NIGHT BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHTS. USUALLY THE NAMES ARE COOPER AND NORRIS. ON FLIGHT AA11, INTERVIA PURCHASED 4 TICKETS IN NAME OF NORRIS, 3 IN COOPER. THERE ARE SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS IN BOUND TODAY WHERE INTERVIA PURCHASED TICKETS. INFO PASSED TO KC COMMAND POST."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeBecause of this...." Worldspan does not receive information from the airlines which would indicate if a passenger took a particular flight or if changes to the reservation are made through the airline." I think American Airlines would have better information on wether a ticket purchase was actually made or any other changes. From FBI Documents... "PENTTBOMB; MAJOR CASE #182
Synopsis: Provide information regarding suspicious airline reservation activity of Interavia Pakistan, Ltd., a travel agency located in Karachi, Pakistan. Lead Control #KC 670.""On September 22, 2001 Emley contacted KCD and advised IPL placed a number of airline reservations via the Worldspan web in The manner in which the reservations were made was similar to the reservations placed on September 11, 2001 and prior activity of IPL. A single group of passengers was booked on multiple flights with conflicting departure times and cities."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeBy the way, there are some interesting facts pertaining to the passenger loads on the planes. Because of these reservations, a theory presented was maybe they were doing that to make a light aircraft load in order to make it easier to hijack, but that was ruled out quickly due to this not being the case with the other flights, but they did check to see if the loads were lighter than usual, and the answer was no. So some of you might not like it, but this is good to know because a good debunker will use this against you if you claim the passenger load was way to light, this also shows how they considered this agency and it's strange bookings a suspect and worthy of investigation, they, at the least, would want to know what this company is doing this for..... "Details: During the early stages of this investigation, questions arose concerning the relatively low number of persons known to be aboard American Airlines (AA) flights 11 and 77 on 09/11/2001. One of the theories proposed was the suspected hijackers and/or unknown associates purchased multiple tickets on the flights in an attempt to ensure the number of passengers aboard each flight remained tactically manageable. A second, and tactically similar theory, was the suspected hijackers specifically chose AA flights 11 and 77 on 09/11/2001 knowing the passenger load was typically low. As a result, the Dallas Division (Dallas) tasked itself to determine: (1) if the passenger count on AA flights 11 and 77 on 09/11/2001 was within normal limits; (2) the number of persons who canceled.""Dallas initially contacted AA to obtain the percentage of capacity for AA flights 11 and 77 on all Tuesday mornings from 01/09/01 through 09/04/01 (passenger load). Upon receiving the data from AA, it was determined the average passenger load for AA flights 11 and 77 on Tuesdays was 38% and 26% respectively. It was further determined the average passenger load for AA flights 11 and 77 on 09/11/2001 was higher than normal at 53% and 38% respectively. Based on the foregoing information, it was not apparent the suspected hijackers booked multiple tickets as a tactical strategy.""Information obtained from AA reservation records indicated 164 reservations made for AA flight 11 departing Boston, MA on 09/11/2001. Of the 164 reservations made, 65 persons canceled their reservations prior to departure, 82 persons were on board the aircraft, and 17 persons were no shows.""Further review of the above-referenced records revealed K. Cooper, S. Cooper, A. Cooper, P. Cooper, E. Noris, 0. Noris and W. Noris all reserved seats on AA flight 11 through travel agency Intervia Pakistan (Private), Ltd. Standing alone, the fact seven (7) persons all made travel reservations through the same travel agency is not unusual. In the instant case, however, the following travel inconsistencies /necessarily require the need for further inquiry:
(1) All seven (7) person's reservations were made under the same AA Personal Name Record (PNR);
2) All seven (7) persons have a link to a relevant country in that the travel agency is located in Pakistan;
(3) All seven (7) persons failed to show up for AA flight 11 on 09/11/2001;
(4) In violation of standard AA policy, no first names were given for any of the seven (7) persons making the reservations;
(5) Against the standard AA practice, no information relating to credit cards, addresses, or telephone numbers is contained in the PNR for any of the seven individuals;
(6) The tickets reserved show no return flight (i.e., one way travel);
(7) No previous travel history exists on AA for any of the seven (7) individuals
(8 Of the seven (7) persons making reservations, three (3) hold the last name of Noris and four (4) hold the last name of Cooper. None of the said names being normally associated with Pakistan.""Set Lead 7: ISLAMABAD AT KARACHI, PAKISTAN Conduct logical investigation to obtain additional identifying information on K. Cooper, S. Cooper, A. Cooper, P. Cooper, E. Noris, 0. Noris and W. Noris. Referenced individuals are believed to have made reservations through Intervia Pakistan (Private), Ltd., on American Airlines flight 11, departing Boston, MA on 09/11/2001. None of the seven (7) referenced individuals showed up for the flight. Assess the possibility the referenced travel agency or employees/officials thereof may, have been involved in, or have had knowledge of, the criminal conspiracy occurring on 09/11/2001, and/or other future acts."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeIt looks to me like the NSA is keeping information on this to themselves, they sure didn't offer anything..... "FOLDER TITLE: Intervia DOCUMENT
SUBJECT:NSA Document Request
Attached is a copy of the original with portions deleted for the following reason(s): 9/11 Classified InformationWITHDRAWAL NOTICEDOCUMENTS RELATING to
ALL RECORDS RELATING TO THE INVESTIGATION OF INDIVIDUALS, OTHER THAN THE HIJACKERS, WHO HAD BOOKED AND/OR BEEN TICKETED FOR AA FLIGHT NO. 11, AA FLIGHT NO, 77, UA FLIGHT NO, 175, AND UA FLIGHT NO. 93 ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD CANCELED OR WERE NO SHOWS FOR THE FLIGHT. THIS REQUEST INCLUDES RECORDS RELATING TO INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE BOOKED UNDER PASSENGER NAME RECORD "NORRIS"AND "COOPER," WHOSE FLIGHTS WERE ARRANGED BY INTERVIA TRAVEL AGENCY IN KARACHI, PAKISTAN."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeThere are several reasons why documents would be withheld and they give the codes and reasons but I don't see where they ever gave any of these codes for keeping out information so we have to guess what it could be... "A" - SOURCE/INFORMANT INFORMATION - Information, the disclosure of which would tend to reveal the identity of an informant or source where confidentiality is expressed or implied.
"B" - FBI TECHNIQUES AND/OR METHODS - Information on sensitive FBI techniques and/or methods which would impede or impair the effectiveness of that technique and/or method.
"C" - NON-RELEVANT FBI CASE INFORMATION - Information neither relevant nor responsive to the Commission's requests.
"D" - FBI PENDING CASE INFORMATION - Information which would impede or jeopardize a pending investigation of the FBI.
"E" - STATUTORY - Information legally prohibited from release by statute.
"F" - PRIVACY/SECURITY - Information, the disclosure of which would be an unwarranted invasion of the personal privacy or jeopardize the safety of law enforcement personnel and/or their family members
Material redacted under this code includes (1) social security numbers; (2) date and place of birth; (3) home address and telephone numbers; (4) personnel cell phone and pager numbers
"G" - FOREIGN GOVERNMENT INFORMATION - The identity of a foreign government and/or foreign service to include the names of foreign law enforcement employees/officials."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeSOooooooo? What happened? What did they find? That's what the 9/11 commission asked. And the answer seems to be............ huh? Intervia? What's that? From the very first document, a hand written note of 9/11 commission: "Topic: Suspicious Booking on AA #11, made by a travel agency in Karachi Pakistan at 4:00AM 9/11 for 7 people, they were no shows.
1/11/2004 Tom Eldridge called CIA, they checked Intervia travel agency. Nothing Found.
1/11/2004 Tom E. is sending Doc request of Intervia to NSA
3/1/04- Meeting w/ Front office. PZ assigned Team Dieter and 1(A) to look into what happened w/ the investigation of this agency."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeThe Front Office..... "The front office consisted of Philip Zelikow, Executive Director; Christopher A. Kohm, Deputy Executive Director; Daniel Marcus, General Counsel and Steven M. Dunne, Deputy General Counsel. The front office dealt not only with administrative issues involving the structure and personnel of the commission, they also provided guidance to the commissioners on policy, strategy, and legal issues."http://www.archives.gov/legislative/research/9-11/commission-series.html1(A) would be.... "Team 1A split from Team 1 to focus on al Qaeda's role in the organization of the 9/11 Attacks. These files contain intelligence cables and reports; FBI 302s; memos and prints from the Automated Case System; handwritten notes of interviews; briefings; and foreign trips; drafts of statements and final report chapters; correspondence with agencies including document and briefing requests; memorandum for the record of interview including with FBI field office personnel and agents involved with the PENTTBOM investigation;"http://www.archives.gov/legislative/research/9-11/commission-series.htmlPZ would be Philip Zelikow, the executive Director running the commission and Dieter would be Dieter Snell. It's interesting that Snell was assigned to look into this investigation. According to Shennons book "The Commission" it was Snell even more than Zelikow that wanted the Saudi roll in 9/11 minimized as much as possible, and that was kept quite in the report. See pages 398-399 of the Book....... http://www.amazon.com/Commission-Uncensored-History-11-Investigation/dp/0446580759#This also was kept quite, even more so. I never even heard of this stuff until seeing this folder. Later another hand written note from the commission says this... "-No evidence that the FBI tasked either itself or the CIA to look at Intervia.
-No Indication that the Chicago Field Office did a study of the No Shows."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeAm I supposed to believe that the investigation stopped suddenly and ended for no reason? Maybe it ended for a good reason. But it ended. Why? What was found? There is a problem if the CIA is saying in 2004 that they have nothing on Intervia. How could that be if there was an investigation? It seems as if this investigation was either stopped (for some reason) or the results of it are not to be produced for some reason. The little I could find on Interavia Pakistan Ltd.... "Registered Office Address: BEAUFORT BUILDING, I.I.CHUNDROGAR ROAD, KARACHI CEO NAME: TARIQ MUMTAZ CEO ADDRESS: 19/A, 9TH CENTRAL STREET, DEFENCE HOUSING AUTHORITY, KARACHI" http://www.pakboi.gov.pk/pak/xdetail.asp?ComID=14138Is it to much to ask the commission to tell us what they found? I'm guessing the answer is "we don't know, they wouldn't tell us". Which would make them worthless, and that certainly wouldn't be the case............would it? What am I to make of this hand written note.... "No evidence that the FBI tasked either itself or the CIA to look at Intervia."http://www.scribd.com/doc/16803340/T7-B21-Intervia-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Pakistani-Travel-Agency-Booked-7-AA-11-OneWay-NoShows-on-911-at-4am-And-Withdrawal-NoticeHow could this be? CIA director Tenet is a national hero who was awarded the presidential medal of freedom award  and FBI Director Mueller who's first day on the job was Sept 4, solved 9/11 in a few hours. If this is true ....-"No evidence that the FBI tasked either itself or the CIA to look at Intervia." , and no investigation was done, it's incompetence to the utmost extreme, or it was deliberately stopped for some reason. Just a few months after this note.... "3/1/04- Meeting w/ Front office. PZ assigned Team Dieter and 1(A) to look into what happened w/ the investigation of this agency."The Commission was closed. According to their assignment this should not be another unanswered question..... "The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the 9-11 Commission), an independent, bipartisan commission created by congressional legislation and the signature of President George W. Bush in late 2002, is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks." "On July 22, 2004 the Commission released its public report"http://www.9-11commission.gov/Perhaps there is an innocent answer for all this, but these released notes just bring more questions, there are no answers in this folder. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 07:42:35 PM » |
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Released from the 9-11 Commission records.... In October 2001, the respected and well informal French weekly newspaper "Le. Canard Enchains" reported in an article titled "DGSE knew a lot about Bin Laden" that among several intelligence memos passed to the CIA and the FBI by the French DGSE (Direction Generalc de la Securitc Exterieure, French external intelligence agency), was a classified report dated January 5, 2001 titled "Projects of plane hijackings by radical Islamists that could affect American Airlines, Delta Airlines, Air France, Lufthansa".
Our investigation confirmed the existence of this intelligence report and the fact that these warnings were shared with US intelligence. The Deputy Director of the DGSE Counterterrorism unit confirmed to me that this memo, as many others, was passed to their US counterparts, the CIA and the FBI. I understood the transmission of these reports occurred within days after they were issued by the DGSE.
We have also acquired a classified DGSE "Summary Report" titled "Al-Qaida, vector of action for Usama Bin Laden" dated July 12, 2001 (Internal DGSE reference number 00280/GT). This report, classified "Confidential Defense" contains a hand-written reference to the January 5, 2001 report. The July 12, 2001 classified report notes that the Al-Qaida network "could be used to obtain the release of Islamist leaders currently detained or prosecuted abroad (including Sheikh Omar Abdcrrahmanc, detained in the United States for his participation in the World Trade Center bombing)". This information is consistent with projects detailed in the August 6, 2001 PDB (paragraph 9, page I). The July 2001 report is part of the set of memos that were passed to US intelligence. This report was passed to the CIA and FBI within days after it was issued.
Another intelligence warning was given to the United States by the French intelligence in the case of the Zacarias Moussaoui in August 2001. I testified before the Joint Inquiry Committee of the US Congress in June 2002 and gave a detailed account of the timing and content of the information passed by the French intelligence (DST, Direction dc la Surveillance du Tcniloire, internal intelligence service in charge of counterterrorism) after the arrest of Moussaoui by the INS on August 16, 2001. Responding to a request for information, the French DST passed "unambiguous" intelligence to the United States on August 22, 2001, through the FBI legal Attache in Paris. According to a direct witness and high ranking member of the DST (name of whom was given to the Committee), information included Moussaoui trainings in Afghanistan in 1998 and 2000 in a camp controlled by Al-Qaida and contacts with Al-Qaida leaders in Europe. It also included a twenty-page interrogation of his brother and visa details. Despite receipt of this information, the FBI legal counsel retracted a request for a search warrant of Moussaoui's belongings (FISA special surveillance measures) on the ground that information on his involvement in terrorism was "insufficient" or "inadmissible". I've also informed the Joint Inquiry Committee that several communications occurred between the DST and the FBI on Moussaoui after the first transmission and prior to 9/11. According to the DST source, the French intelligence "didn't understand" at that lime why the FBI couldn't act upon that situation given the consistent evidence provided by them.
Our investigation has further determined that the use of airplanes as weapons has been widely known for years within the intelligence community in the United States, France and other countries, as a potential strategy to be carried out by Usama Bin laden and his terrorist network. This trend emerged after the Bojinka plan was uncovered in the Philippines in 1995, details of which appear in numerous reports from the CIA and the FBI after that date.http://www.scribd.com/doc/14863615/T2-B10-Motley-Submission-Fdr-French-Intelligence-Passed-to-the-US-Moussaoui-Planes-as-Weapons-Widely-Known-698President Bush said at a news conference Tuesday, "Nobody in our government, at least, and I don't think the prior government, could envision flying airplanes into buildings on such a massive scale."http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm "I still don't understand," she says over a club sandwich, "how it could have been allowed to happen." They'd seen the files, been inside 603. The CIA had access to everything, too.http://www.prisonplanet.com/bust_and_boom.html"I don't think that anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile," -- National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/hijack_05-16-02.html"We told the Americans about the plans to turn planes into flying bombs as far back as 1995," he complained to reporters. -- Gen. Avelino "Sonny" Razon, one of the lead investigators in the Bojinka case http://www.prisonplanet.com/bust_and_boom.htmloooops... Our investigation has further determined that the use of airplanes as weapons has been widely known for years within the intelligence community in the United States, France and other countries, as a potential strategy to be carried out by Usama Bin laden and his terrorist network.http://www.scribd.com/doc/14863615/T2-B10-Motley-Submission-Fdr-French-Intelligence-Passed-to-the-US-Moussaoui-Planes-as-Weapons-Widely-Known-698 |
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 10:33:32 PM » |
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Add this to the pile..... Yet another flight instructor telling how Hani Hanjour was a terrible pilot..... I first flew with Hani Hanjour on 21 May 1998. I instructed him for about four months, during that time I knew him only professionally, he was generally quiet and his English was poor. He told me that he was single, and that he went to the mosque in Phoenix every Friday. He was not well educated nor was he very intelligent. His general attitude was unlike most European and American students who invariably are concerned about the cost of their training and wish to complete their training as quickly as possible. For these reasons most western students are highly motivated. Hani Hanjour was not a motivated student. And, whilst he did not seem rich, he did not seem concerned at the cost of his training.As a person I found Hani Hanjour fairly easy to get along with. He smiled often and was easy going. I did not think that he was the type of person to become an airline pilot. He was a follower and not a leader, had few opinions of his own and had, in my view, almost no initiative. Consequently I very seriously doubt that he had any organizational or leadership role in the events of September 11th.As a pilot, Hani Hanjour was very poor. His knowledge of the academic
side of training was weak, his flying skills were marginal but most significantly his judgment was very poor. He told me about one flight, in which he had almost run out of fuel while on a solo cross-country. What struck me most when he was recounting this story was that he did not seem to care. To most pilots such an event would teach them a lesson they would never forget, for Hani Hanjour it seemed mildly amusing. On one occasion when Hani Hanjour and I were about to fly I double checked the fuel (as all pilots and flight instructors always do prior to a flight) and noticed that there was almost no fuel; Hani Hanjour was ready to fly. I questioned him about the lack of fuel and again he seemed mildly amused rather than appalled by his possibly life-threatening mistake (again).In retrospect, Hani Hanjour was not someone cut out to be a pilot. He had
no motivation, a poor understanding of the basic principles of aviation and poor judgment combined with poor technical skills. His personality was weak and I have no doubt that he could have been easily persuaded to do almost anything - clearly he was.http://www.scribd.com/doc/16345043/T7-B18-Pilot-Training-Info-Fdr-Statement-of-Redacted-Re-Hani-Hanjour-539 |
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