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how do we know chat rooms are infiltrated?
You've got to be kidding right? Ever heard of Cointelpro? http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/cointelpro.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO'According to attorney Brian Glick in his book War at Home, the FBI used four main methods during COINTELPRO: 1. Infiltration: Agents and informers did not merely spy on political activists. Their main purpose was to discredit and disrupt. Their very presence served to undermine trust and scare off potential supporters. The FBI and police exploited this fear to smear genuine activists as agents.'
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 08:01:53 PM » |
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I love how the heroes of free speech always turn into the censorship Nazis when things don't go their way...
Nothing new here, move along citizen.
Or how "heroes" of the truth only accept such a small amount of info to form their opinion? Then take part in an argument acting as if they remain unbiased, only because they know their opinion has flaws due to lack of information.
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You've got to be kidding right? Ever heard of Cointelpro? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO'According to attorney Brian Glick in his book War at Home, the FBI used four main methods during COINTELPRO: 1. Infiltration: Agents and informers did not merely spy on political activists. Their main purpose was to discredit and disrupt. Their very presence served to undermine trust and scare off potential supporters. The FBI and police exploited this fear to smear genuine activists as agents.' For F*ck's sake, get over your paranoia... If this truther stuff was really having an effect on what is occurring around the globe that would be valid but the simple fact of the matter is that the plans are all in place and Alan Watt and Alex Jones are not changing one damn bit of any of it. Let's reiterate: Did 15 years of spreading information on the Internet do one damn thing to stop the multi trillion dollar rape of the American taxpayer ? What have your heroic efforts of reading crap on the Internet accomplished ? You act as if listening to radio and watching videos is going to fix anything, you wait in a dream land where Alex Jones and Alan Watt will don their capes and fly to Washington DC with their magic powers to save your valueless lives. The truther movement is about glad handing and cock holding to make yourselves feel better about doing nothing while those in power empty their bowels into your dinner plates.
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You've got to be kidding right? Ever heard of Cointelpro? http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/cointelpro.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO'According to attorney Brian Glick in his book War at Home, the FBI used four main methods during COINTELPRO: 1. Infiltration: Agents and informers did not merely spy on political activists. Their main purpose was to discredit and disrupt. Their very presence served to undermine trust and scare off potential supporters. The FBI and police exploited this fear to smear genuine activists as agents.' i guess this could support a little that chat rooms could be infultrated For F*ck's sake, get over your paranoia...
If this truther stuff was really having an effect on what is occurring around the globe that would be valid but the simple fact of the matter is that the plans are all in place and Alan Watt and Alex Jones are not changing one damn bit of any of it.
Let's reiterate:
Did 15 years of spreading information on the Internet do one damn thing to stop the multi trillion dollar rape of the American taxpayer ?
What have your heroic efforts of reading crap on the Internet accomplished ?
You act as if listening to radio and watching videos is going to fix anything, you wait in a dream land where Alex Jones and Alan Watt will don their capes and fly to Washington DC with their magic powers to save your valueless lives.
The truther movement is about glad handing and cock holding to make yourselves feel better about doing nothing while those in power empty their bowels into your dinner plates.
i do agree with u tho in my opinion i dont think "they" care about all the truth info going all out on the net i think "they" care more about who will fall for disinfo
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 08:32:17 PM » |
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If this truther stuff was really having an effect on what is occurring around the globe that would be valid but the simple fact of the matter is that the plans are all in place and Alan Watt and Alex Jones are not changing one damn bit of any of it.
Let's reiterate:
Did 15 years of spreading information on the Internet do one damn thing to stop the multi trillion dollar rape of the American taxpayer ?
What have your heroic efforts of reading crap on the Internet accomplished ?
You act as if listening to radio and watching videos is going to fix anything, you wait in a dream land where Alex Jones and Alan Watt will don their capes and fly to Washington DC with their magic powers to save your valueless lives.
The truther movement is about glad handing and cock holding to make yourselves feel better about doing nothing while those in power empty their bowels into your dinner plates.
If that's what you think, why are you here? Don't you have any favorite TV shows, hobbies, etc.? 
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 08:34:25 PM » |
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For F*ck's sake, get over your paranoia...
If this truther stuff was really having an effect on what is occurring around the globe that would be valid but the simple fact of the matter is that the plans are all in place and Alan Watt and Alex Jones are not changing one damn bit of any of it.
Let's reiterate:
Did 15 years of spreading information on the Internet do one damn thing to stop the multi trillion dollar rape of the American taxpayer ?
What have your heroic efforts of reading crap on the Internet accomplished ?
You act as if listening to radio and watching videos is going to fix anything, you wait in a dream land where Alex Jones and Alan Watt will don their capes and fly to Washington DC with their magic powers to save your valueless lives.
The truther movement is about glad handing and cock holding to make yourselves feel better about doing nothing while those in power empty their bowels into your dinner plates.
Pfff your a waste of time. So your saying Cointelpro doesn't exist? "You act as if listening to radio and watching videos is going to fix anything, you wait in a dream land where Alex Jones and Alan Watt will don their capes and fly to Washington DC with their magic powers to save your valueless lives." Where is this evident from me? And your solutions are? Bitch and moan about people trying to do at least the bare minimum to spread information about the New World Order or is that paranoia too?
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Pfff your a waste of time.
So your saying Cointelpro doesn't exist?
"You act as if listening to radio and watching videos is going to fix anything, you wait in a dream land where Alex Jones and Alan Watt will don their capes and fly to Washington DC with their magic powers to save your valueless lives."
Where is this evident from me?
And your solutions are? Bitch and moan about people trying to do at least the bare minimum to spread information about the New World Order or is that paranoia too?
One more time: Just exactly what effect has spreading this information around had ? Can you show me any instance of where this has resulted in the "nwo" changing their plans or their plans being thwarted ? None of you want to admit that all you are doing by listening to these radio shows and hanging out on these web sites is comforting yourselves and salving the guilt you feel as you sit and watch it all crumble to dust. Everyone wants off easy. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 08:49:39 PM » |
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None of you want to admit that all you are doing by listening to these radio shows and hanging out on these web sites is comforting yourselves and salving the guilt you feel as you sit and watch it all crumble to dust.
Okay, you've got the floor. It's now time to reveal your master plan. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 08:50:39 PM » |
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Okay, you've got the floor. It's now time to reveal your master plan.  Nope, I'm waiting for the comic book superhero to come and save the day too !!!
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 08:53:36 PM » |
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None of you want to admit that all you are doing by listening to these radio shows and hanging out on these web sites is comforting yourselves and salving the guilt you feel as you sit and watch it all crumble to dust.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2009, 08:59:24 PM » |
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One more time: Just exactly what effect has spreading this information around had ? Can you show me any instance of where this has resulted in the "nwo" changing their plans or their plans being thwarted ? None of you want to admit that all you are doing by listening to these radio shows and hanging out on these web sites is comforting yourselves and salving the guilt you feel as you sit and watch it all crumble to dust. Everyone wants off easy.  More people are aware about fluoride, aspartame, GMO, false flag terrorism, internet censorship, economy, federal reserve, north american union, asia-pacific union, european union, non-governmental organisations; Council on foreign relations, trilateral commission, warrantless wiretapping, New World Order kingpins; Kissenger, Brzeninski, Rothschild, Rockefeller, climate change scam. And somehow spreading information is bad? What have you done? What are your solutions!? I'm really waiting to hear them.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 08:59:45 PM » |
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So then this is your own feelings and your assuming it represents everyone else?  The evidence speaks for itself. 15 years of blabbering on the Internet about the "NWO" and the "Illuminati" and blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum, and just a couple months ago they ripped trillions out of the pockets of the American taxpayers. Show me where I am wrong in that statement and then show me what good it has done to spread the information. I am not being rude to you, at all, I am simply asking you to defend the position that this "info war" has accomplished anything.
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 09:13:26 PM » |
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T15 years of blabbering on the Internet about the "NWO" and the "Illuminati" and blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum, and just a couple months ago they ripped trillions out of the pockets of the American taxpayers.
Show me where I am wrong in that statement and then show me what good it has done to spread the information.
15 years ago, they hadn't stolen 8.5 trillion (ad infinitum) in the face of the populous who were under the impression that the people still had some control of the government. 15 years ago, I wasn't here. One year ago I wasn't here. I stumbled upon Alex Jones in a quest to understand what was going on in the world. Same with Alan Watt. To them, I am very appreciative. And I now feel the most important thing that can be done is educate myself & others as quickly as possible. What will it change? I'm not sure, but one thing is for sure: if more people are not educated, we will have no hope. imho
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2009, 09:23:34 PM » |
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15 years ago, they hadn't stolen 8.5 trillion (ad infinitum) in the face of the populous who were under the impression that the people still had some control of the government. 15 years ago, I wasn't here. One year ago I wasn't here. I stumbled upon Alex Jones in a quest to understand what was going on in the world. Same with Alan Watt. To them, I am very appreciative. And I now feel the most important thing that can be done is educate myself & others as quickly as possible. What will it change? I'm not sure, but one thing is for sure: if more people are not educated, we will have no hope. imho
Well, my friend, there are many of us who have fought this war for decades. I, for one, am tired of people ranting about how spreading the information is going to save us all when it has not done anything. The day it has an effect and actually stops the plan of those that wish to dominate the world will be the day that I will gladly stand up and say I was completely and utterly wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2009, 09:26:05 PM » |
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The day it has an effect and actually stops the plan of those that wish to dominate the world will be the day that I will gladly stand up and say I was completely and utterly wrong.

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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2009, 09:29:48 PM » |
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Yeah, pretty much a lost cause. For a person who spouts that spreading information is worthless he sure likes to open his mouth since he signed up. No solutions. Just whinge, whinge, whinge. I'll say again. More people are aware about fluoride, aspartame, GMO, false flag terrorism, internet censorship, economy, federal reserve, north american union, asia-pacific union, european union, non-governmental organisations; Council on foreign relations, trilateral commission, warrantless wiretapping, New World Order kingpins; Kissenger, Brzeninski, Rothschild, Rockefeller, climate change scam.
And somehow spreading information is bad?
What have you done? What are your solutions!? I'm really waiting to hear them.
If more people are aware about what's going on then there is a likelyhood they can stop it. It may not be stoppable but a founding father quote was "It only takes a small minority to set brushfires in the minds of men". But the fact remains, people were warned and it's up to them now isn't it? The contiuation of spreading more information is meant to wake more people up. You seriously believe that people in Government, military, media, pharmaceutical and the wider industrial complexes don't read this information and pass it on or act on it? ? ?
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2009, 09:33:36 PM » |
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Yeah, pretty much a lost cause.
For a person who spouts that spreading information is worthless he sure likes to open his mouth since he signed up.
Well, boy, the difference between me and you is this: If I were to be proven wrong I am more than man enough to stand up and say I was wrong and out of line. I'll be waiting for that day to come.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2009, 09:36:25 PM » |
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Well, boy, the difference between me and you is this:
If I were to be proven wrong I am more than man enough to stand up and say I was wrong and out of line.
I'll be waiting for that day to come.
Solutions? Anything but criticisms? More people are aware about fluoride, aspartame, GMO, false flag terrorism, internet censorship, economy, federal reserve, north american union, asia-pacific union, european union, non-governmental organisations; Council on foreign relations, trilateral commission, warrantless wiretapping, New World Order kingpins; Kissenger, Brzeninski, Rothschild, Rockefeller, climate change scam.
And somehow spreading information is bad?
What have you done? What are your solutions!? I'm really waiting to hear them.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2009, 09:45:57 PM » |
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Solutions?
Anything but criticisms?
We all live in fear. Courage is required, we are lacking in courage. We deserve our fate, we have sat and awaited it's arrival.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2009, 09:51:15 PM » |
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We all live in fear.
Courage is required, we are lacking in courage.
We deserve our fate, we have sat and awaited it's arrival.
.........*Sigh* Yeah that's more effective than spreading information about the New World Order's plans. Fin.
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2009, 09:52:43 PM » |
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.........*Sigh*
Yeah that's more effective than spreading information about the New World Order's plans.
Fin.
Didn't say it was a plan... Plans require courage, we lack courage so we deserve our fate.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2009, 09:56:29 PM » |
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Plans require courage, we lack courage so we deserve our fate.
Disagree. Courage isn't the problem. Comfort is the problem.
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2009, 09:58:31 PM » |
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Disagree. Courage isn't the problem. Comfort is the problem.
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2009, 10:00:15 PM » |
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Disagree. Courage isn't the problem. Comfort is the problem.
I'll only say give up on this thread, it's just utter meaningless doublethink.
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2009, 10:02:16 PM » |
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2009, 10:04:11 PM » |
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Hellboy, you did not come here just to preach defeatism.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2009, 10:09:22 PM » |
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Didn't say it was a plan...
Plans require courage, we lack courage so we deserve our fate.
At least you are using the term 'we', and therefore including yourself in that assessment. "Knowledge is Power"..... I don't know if that is really true, but knowledge is certainly more powerful than ignorance.  If, by knowing the plans ahead for 'us', I can learn to be more self-sufficient, learn (and inform others) how best to avoid the poisons, programming, etc that is being foisted upon us, etc....then the 'infowar' and this forum has certainly been of benefit to me. Good heavens, I didn't even know what 'fiat' currency was 2 years ago. It certainly isn't taught in schools, is it? And who knows what might have been averted (Air Force nukes) because of people KNOWING about the NWO agenda and taking a stand against it.
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Well I think people can do a hell of a lot more and have done a lot more than folks are given immediate credit for. It's all about the smaller things - voting with your dollar and with your fork. If you stop spending money in certain places you have made affected that company directly or indirectly. People boycott, that does damage. Just one example I can think of.. If people spend their money propping up the little guy instead of spending at walmart, difference made. voting with your money is a good power to have as an individual.. No it won't quell tyranny or quash the NWO but the more people that realise that they can make change by using their money in pointed ways the more power can be returned to the people..
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2009, 10:26:46 PM » |
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At least you are using the term 'we', and therefore including yourself in that assessment. Of course I include myself. If I had a plan I would not be here ranting to salve my guilty soul.
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2009, 01:28:15 AM » |
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Of course I include myself.
If I had a plan I would not be here ranting to salve my guilty soul.
You never did answer this question. More people are aware about fluoride, aspartame, GMO, false flag terrorism, internet censorship, economy, federal reserve, north american union, asia-pacific union, european union, non-governmental organisations; Council on foreign relations, trilateral commission, warrantless wiretapping, New World Order kingpins; Kissenger, Brzeninski, Rothschild, Rockefeller, climate change scam.
And somehow spreading information is bad?
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One more time: Just exactly what effect has spreading this information around had ? Can you show me any instance of where this has resulted in the "nwo" changing their plans or their plans being thwarted ? None of you want to admit that all you are doing by listening to these radio shows and hanging out on these web sites is comforting yourselves and salving the guilt you feel as you sit and watch it all crumble to dust. Everyone wants off easy.  two that spring to mind THEY HAVE STILL NOT ATTACKED IRAN THEY HAVE STILL NOT BEEN ABLE TO STAGE ANOTHER 9-11 it is filth like you who should be feeling guilty for serving the agenda just to make a buck
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2009, 04:46:56 AM » |
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two that spring to mind THEY HAVE STILL NOT ATTACKED IRAN
THEY HAVE STILL NOT BEEN ABLE TO STAGE ANOTHER 9-11
it is filth like you who should be feeling guilty for serving the agenda just to make a buck
Pull your head out of your paranoid ass, you sound just like the UFO loons. Just because I don't agree with certain facets of the "truth movement" I get mental midgets calling me names. Shrug, you don't make my world spin so call all the little names your heart desires.
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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2009, 04:53:20 AM » |
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why don't you go have fun today folks. go outside, laugh, forget the net exists for a day or something. It's really good for you.
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hellboy really has it in for the mods,...I give him til about 8 am...
Excuse me, whoeverthef**kyouare, but when someone steps outside of their "mod" duties and threatens me or calls me names I will respond appropriately.
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Excuse me, whoeverthef**kyouare, but when someone steps outside of their "mod" duties and threatens me or calls me names I will respond appropriately.
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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2009, 05:00:50 AM » |
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Pull your head out of your paranoid ass, you sound just like the UFO loons.
Just because I don't agree with certain facets of the "truth movement" I get mental midgets calling me names.
Shrug, you don't make my world spin so call all the little names your heart desires.
i sound like a paranoid ass because they have still not attacked Iran or staged a new 9-11, or were you simply diverting attention away from those facts and centering the coversation on yourself? guess what you do not make the world spin either btw, what do you agree with in the truth movement exactly, what are your beliefs/knowledge sets? I am sure we would all love to know
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lol..I was reading some of your posts..they cracked me up, but i've seen a hundred guys like you get banned here...you got attitude..
Well, according to our resident experts on disinfo agents all of those guys were me anyway. 
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2009, 05:10:33 AM » |
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what are your beliefs/knowledge sets?
That's too vague and trying to answer would require voluminous amounts of typing that won't be happening anytime soon. I'll be glad to answer any specific, civilly asked, questions you might have. Addendum: Grampa truth movement hater troll dude is geting tired over here in disinfo agent land so I might not respond until tomorrow.
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mr anderson
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2009, 05:20:58 AM » |
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That's too vague and trying to answer would require voluminous amounts of typing that won't be happening anytime soon.
I'll be glad to answer any specific, civilly asked, questions you might have.
Addendum:
Grampa truth movement hater troll dude is geting tired over here in disinfo agent land so I might not respond until tomorrow.
Probably for the 4th time now...here's something simple. More people are aware about fluoride, aspartame, GMO, false flag terrorism, internet censorship, economy, federal reserve, north american union, asia-pacific union, european union, non-governmental organisations; Council on foreign relations, trilateral commission, warrantless wiretapping, New World Order kingpins; Kissenger, Brzeninski, Rothschild, Rockefeller, climate change scam. And somehow spreading information is bad? What have you done? What are your solutions!? Other than having 'courage' and waiting for our fate.
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