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 Somali Pirates : An Excuse to Ratify LOST? William F. Jasper | The New American09 April 2009 Sooner or later it was bound to happen. Over the past several years, American ships and crews had evaded the rising tide of piracy in the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea. But on April 8, pirates off the coast of Somalia seized a U.S.-flagged container ship, the Maersk Alabama, with a crew of 20 Americans. However, the American seamen were unwilling to join the crews of 18 other ships who are being held for ransom by the Somali pirates. In what is believed to be an unprecedented action in the Somali pirates’ sphere of operations, the unarmed crew fought back and overpowered their attackers. Although the details of the struggle are still sketchy, various news organizations have reported that the Americans used fire hoses and strength of numbers to overpower one or more of the pirates. The fight resulted in a standoff, with several pirates holding the ship’s captain, Richard Phillips of Underhill, Vermont, and the crew holding one of the pirates. The crew and pirates negotiated a deal that involved an exchange of prisoners and the pirates using one of the ship’s lifeboats to depart, since they had scuttled their speedboat when boarding the cargo ship. However, the pirates reneged on the deal and took Capt. Phillips hostage with them aboard the lifeboat. The USS Bainbridge, a destroyer, arrived on the scene this morning, where the lifeboat with the pirates and Capt. Phillips is still floating near the Maersk Alabama. We hope this high seas drama ends with Capt. Phillips safely returned to his ship. But what to do about the escalating problem of piracy, not only around the Horn of Africa but in the busy Strait of Malacca and other troubled waters as well? The LOST "Solution" Our globalist-minded policy elites have the solution, of course: more empowerment of the United Nations. If you haven’t already heard of the LOST prescription for piracy, you soon will. Ratification of the UN Law Of the Sea Treaty (LOST, also called UNCLOS, for UN Convention on the Law of the Sea) is a “top priority” for the new Obama administration, according to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The push for ratifying LOST heretofore has relied largely on environmental propaganda: LOST is “essential” for global cooperation to save the whales, the seals, the polar bears, the penguins, the plankton, the icebergs … (pick the endangered critter or object de jour). However, the age-old scourge of piracy has always been a back-up argument. Articles 100-107 and Article 110 of the UN Law Of the Sea Treaty deal with piracy. The administration of George W. Bush broke with past Republican opposition to LOST and strongly endorsed the convention, which would dangerously undermine national sovereignty and transfer vast new powers to the United Nations to control and/or regulate virtually all human activity on, over, or under the oceans, including the seabed, coastal areas, and inland waterways (rivers, streams, and lakes) that empty into the oceans. Shortly before leaving office, the Bush State Department issued statements supporting UN peacekeeping and LOST as a remedies for the Somali pirate problem. In a December 17, 2008 “Fact Sheet” entitled “United States Actions on Somalia Piracy,” the Bush State Department declared: The United States remains deeply concerned by the continuing threat of piracy in the Horn of Africa and its impact on commercial shipping … and overall stability in the region…. The United States believes that a proper United Nations supported peacekeeping mission is necessary to combat piracy in the Horn of Africa. The document goes on to say: The United States, along with the international community, continues to use the legal framework provided by international treaties for addressing piracy. The UN Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) gives authorities the power to arrest or deter pirates on the high seas. And, furthermore: The United States recognizes piracy is a symptom of the lack of stability, security, economic development, and rule of law on the ground. Addressing these deficits in Somalia. Therefore, the United States recognizes the need for the deployment of a United Nations peacekeeping operation. Then, on January 14, one week before handing over the reins of government to the new Obama administration, the Bush State Department issued a new fact sheet stating: Pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1851, the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast of Somalia (CGPCS) was established on January 14, 2009 to facilitate discussion and coordination of actions among states and organizations to suppress piracy off the coast of Somalia. The CGPCS will report its progress periodically to the UN Security Council. The Contact Group notes “with deep concern that piracy off the coast of Somalia grew significantly in 2008, and that attacks on shipping vessels can be expected to increase without enhanced international efforts.” So, what will this UN Contact Group, of which the United States is a member, do about Somali piracy? Again, the State Department informs us: As an international cooperation mechanism created pursuant to Security Council resolution 1851 to act as a point of contact between and among states, regional and international organizations on aspects of combating piracy and armed robbery at sea off Somalia’s coast, the CGPCS will inform the UN Security Council on a regular basis of the progress of its activities, including through providing relevant information to the UN Secretary General for possible incorporation into his periodic reports to the Council. But here’s where it gets to the crux of the matter: The CGPCS calls on state parties to implement their obligations under relevant treaties and applicable international law, including in particular the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea with respect to suppressing piracy.... [Emphasis added.] How will LOST assist in “suppressing piracy”? It won’t. In fact, it will cripple any effective U.S. action by binding us down with “international law” — as defined and interpreted by anti-American forces in the UN and their allies in our media and our government. Article 110 of LOST, for instance, states: “The right of hot pursuit ceases as soon as the ship pursued enters the territorial sea of its own State or of a third State.” So, if the pirates slip their speedboats into the territorial waters of Somalia, Kenya, or Ethiopia, they’re home free. Their pirate bases are likewise protected. Luckily, the infant U.S. republic was not burdened with the UN or LOST when the Barbary Pirates were the scourge of the Mediterranean. The great European sea powers — Britain, France, Spain, Holland, Portugal — paid tribute to the murderous brigands and slavers of Tripoli. So did America, until our new nation finally said, “Enough!” — and built its own navy and sent a force to deal with the villains. The intrepid exploits of Commodore Edward Prebel, Lieutenant Stephen Decatur, Consul William Eaton, Lieutenant Presley O’Bannon, and Captain William Bainbridge are legendary. Against incredible odds, and against difficulties far greater than those we face today from the Somali pirates, they triumphed — without sacrificing U.S. sovereignty and independence of action to a global authority. Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, the most eminent naval hero of the time, praised Decatur’s raid on Tripoli as "the most bold and daring act of the age." Pope Pius VII effusively praised Preble's attacks on the pirates, saying the American offensive "had done more for the cause of Christianity than the most powerful nations of Christendom have done for ages." The inspiring story of America’s earliest experience in dealing with piracy on the high seas is brilliantly told by Thomas Jewett, in an online article entitled, “Terrorism In Early America: The U.S. Wages War Against The Barbary States to End International Blackmail and Terrorism.” The present generation of Americans should read this stirring and instructive chronicle of the good sense and heroism of our forebears in dealing with international criminals. The captain and crew of the Maersk Alabama appear to be imbued with some of the same sense and courage; they didn’t wait for a UN resolution or a LOST tribunal to tell them that it was OK to resist their captors. We need some of that good sense and courage in the halls of Congress, in the White House, and the State Department. SOURCE: http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-...ainmenu-27/985Related articles from The New American: LOST: Law of the Sea Treaty Who Wants the U.S. to Get LOST?
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http://www.thesundaily.com/article.cfm?id=32149Somali pirates negotiate with US Navy over hostageNairobi (April 10, 2009) - In a dramatic Indian Ocean standoff Thursday, Somali pirates held the captain of a US-operated vessel hostage on a stranded lifeboat and were negotiating with US Navy officials who arrived on a destroyer. The USS Bainbridge, part of a coalition naval force sent to combat piracy in the region, arrived early Thursday morning and had made contact with the lifeboat, according to a spokesman for Maersk, the company that operates the Maersk Alabama cargo ship. The Alabama, whose crew fought off Wednesday's attack, has steamed away from the area and was headed toward its original destination of Mombasa, Kenya. But captain Richard Phillips, who was snatched by the hijackers in the struggle, was still held on a lifeboat the attackers took from the Alabama. The lifeboat is out of fuel, US officials said, meaning it has no getaway options. "We are monitoring the situation obviously very closely," US Defence Secretary Robert Gates told reporters in Washington. "The safe return of the captain is the top priority." President Barack Obama was getting regular updates on the hostage situation, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said. -- dpa Pirates on Wednesday boarded and seized the Maersk Alabama, with 20 US citizens on board. The event was a watermark in the pirate-infested waters off the Horn of Africa for two reasons: it was the first time a ship with a US crew had been seized, and the first time seamen have successfully fought back against the Somali pirates. The 17,000-ton Alabama, owned by the Danish firm Maersk, was taken in the Indian Ocean, about 500km off the Somali coast, and is carrying food supplies and aid for three African countries. Maersk spokesman Kevin Speers said when the ship makes port, "the crew can be repatriated to the US and reunited with their families." The US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was helping the Navy negotiate the captain's release. Navy forces are reluctant to storm ships to free crew members being held hostage, instead concentrating on preventative measures. Somali pirates have stepped up their attacks in recent weeks after a brief lull. The Maersk Alabama was the sixth ship to have been seized since Saturday. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's special representative for Somalia, Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, called for a stronger and increased international naval presence off the Somali coast. He said the increasing incidents of piracy were "an insult to international legality" and that these "acts of criminality must not be allowed to follow the same path of impunity of the past." The 32,000-ton British-owned Malaspina Castle, flying a Panama flag, was seized on Monday along with its crew of 24 from Bulgaria, Russia, Ukraine and the Philippines. Taiwanese fishing vessel MV Win Far was taken on the same day near the Seychelles. Its crew of 30 is from Taiwan, China, Indonesia and the Philippines. A French yacht, a Yemeni tugboat and a German container ship were also seized over the weekend. The German vessel, the Hansa Stavanger, arrived in the Bay of Harardere on the Somali coast under pirate control, the website of the German magazine Der Spiegel reported Thursday. No confirmation was available from the German government. The pirates had phoned the German vessel's owners, Leonhardt & Blumberg in Hamburg, and set out ransom demands, Spiegel said. Pirate gangs in 2008 seized dozens of vessels and earned tens of millions of dollars in ransoms, prompting the international community to hurriedly send warships to the region. Around 15 warships from the European Union, a coalition task force and individual countries such as Russia, the US, India and China patrol an area of about 2.85 million square kilometres. However, the pirates are now going further, venturing into the Indian Ocean off the southeast coast of Somalia, to avoid the patrols. US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the military was working with its allies to see how to develop a broader plan to deal with piracy in the region. "This is an old scourge," she said. "We will be consulting closely and widely to determine ... what further steps the international community believes should be taken." The United Nations and African Union, together with the League of Arab States, the Organization of Islamic Conference and the European Union were to meet April 23 to discuss the security situation in Somalia. http://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his135/Events/Somalia93/Somalia93.html... Mogadishu In December 1992, in one of his last acts as President, George Bush proposed to the U.N. that United States combat troops lead the intervention force. The U.N. accepted this offer and 25,000 U.S. troops were deployed to Somalia. President Bush stated that this would not be an “open-ended commitment.” The objective of Operation Restore Hope was to rapidly secure the trade routes in Somalia so that food could get to the people. President Bush stated that U.S. troops would be home in time for Bill Clinton’s inauguration in January. Once President Clinton was inaugurated he stated his desire to scale down the U.S. presence in Somalia, and to let the U.N. forces take over. In March 1993 the U.N. officially took over the operation, naming this mission UNOSOM – II. The objective of this mission was to promote “nation building” within Somalia. One main target was to disarm the Somali people. UNOSOM – II stressed restoring law and order, improving the infrastructure, and assisting the people with setting up a representative government. President Clinton supported the U.N. mandate and ordered the number of U.S. troops in Somalia reduced, to be replaced by U.N. troops. By June 1993, only 1200 U.S. troops remained in Somalia, but on June 5, 1993 24 Pakistani soldiers were ambushed and killed during the inspection of a Somali arms weapons storage site. The U.N. responded with an emergency resolution to apprehend those responsible. While it was not specifically stated, Aidid and his followers were believed to be responsible. On June 19, 1993 Admiral Howe ordered Aidid’s arrest and offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to this. He also requested a counterterrorist rescue force after the massacre of the Pakistani troops. From June 12 through June 16 U.S. and U.N. troops attacked targets in Mogadishu related to Aidid. On July 12 U.S. Cobra helicopters attacked a house in Mogadishu where clan leaders were meeting. They destroyed several buildings and many Somalis were killed. When four Western journalists went to investigate the scene they were beaten to death by a mob of Somalis. On August 8 four U.S. military police were killed when a land mine was remote-detonated by Somalis. Two weeks later, six more U.S. soldiers were wounded. It was at this point that Task Force Ranger was deployed to Somalia. On August 29 Task Force Ranger flew into Mogadishu. They were led by General William Garrison and consisted of 440 elite troops from Delta Force. Their mission was to capture Aidid. But, at the same time, in September 1993 the Clinton Administration began a secret plan to negotiate with Aidid. U.S. military commanders within Somalia were not apprised of this. U .S. Defense Secretary Les Aspin denied a request for armored reinforcements made by General Montgomery. On October 3, 1993 Task Force Ranger raided the Olympic Hotel in Mogadishu to search for Aidid. This led to a seventeen-hour battle in which eighteen U.S. soldiers were killed and eighty-four were wounded. Bodies of dead American soldiers were dragged through the streets of Mogadishu, shown on international news reports. Hundreds of Somalis also died, although the official number has never been released. This was the longest, most bloody battle for U.S troops since the Vietnam War. On October 7 President Clinton responded by withdrawing U.S. troops from Somalia. The hunt for Aidid was abandoned, although U.S. representatives were sent to resume negotiations with clan leaders. Two weeks after the Battle of Mogadishu General Garrison officially accepted responsibility. In a handwritten letter to President Clinton, Garrison took full responsibility for the outcome of the battle. He wrote that the Task Force Ranger had adequate intelligence for the mission and that their objective (capturing targets from the Olympic Hotel) was met. What began as a peacekeeping mission to provide relief to the starving people of Somalia essentially ended with a firefight during the Battle of Mogadishu. After all of the U.S. troops were withdrawn in March 1994, 20,000 U.N. troops were still in Somalia. By the late Spring of 1994 all of the remaining U.N. troops were withdrawn, ending UNOSOM-II. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24595Bin Laden tied to Mogadishu massacreSomalia trail may provide clues to leaks of top-secret U.S. codesOn Oct. 2, 1993, a Somali informer – who later turned out to be in bin Laden's pay – tipped off the Americans that a group of Aidid's top lieutenants, possibly even the chief himself, had just entered a building opposite the main market of Mogadishu. Black Hawk choppers took off with 99 U.S. elite troops and equipped with reconnaissance and navigational equipment hooked to spy satellite and escorted by three observer helicopters and a high-flying OH-58. No one in the U.S. command imagined that their secret code words, including their secret signals to Washington, were in the hands of Aidid's men and, as it transpired later, passed on to Bin Laden's commanders. The jaws of the trap snapped as the men were fast-roped down to the roof of the target building, when hellish fire opened up from all the surrounding rooftops. Instead of a fast, in-and-out, 90-minute raid, the troops were pinned down in 14 hours of savage fighting, with both sides bringing in reinforcements. It was then that the Al Qaeda militants showed themselves as the fiercest combatants; Aidid was conspicuously absent. The U.S. lost 18 elite fighters and pilots that day, and 77 were wounded. The dead were dragged through the streets of Mogadishu past a cheering mob. Not a single one of the enemy's men was captured. By March 31, 1994, the last American troop thankfully followed the U.N. contingent out of Somalia. But the sequel of this episode is illuminating. An intense investigation followed the Mogadishu debacle to discover how the enemy was so well informed of U.S. plans. There were signs that bin Laden's men knew the secret U.S. codes and also the U.S. battle plan, enabling them to keep a jump head and lay traps. The investigation picked up the trail of leaked codes in Boutros-Ghali's office in New York, following them to the U.N. command in Mogadishu and bin Laden's aides. Barred access to U.N. command offices to collect proof of the conspiracy, they resorted to an alternative scheme. On Feb. 26, 1994, a CIA special unit was flown directly from the States to Mogadishu and took over the U.N. building. A search turned up the documents containing the most secret U.S. codes. Five days before the CIA break-in in Mogadishu, the FBI arrested senior CIA officer Aldrich Ames at his home in Arlington, Va., and charged him with spying for Moscow. A search of his home turned up evidence that Ames had been feeding secret U.S. codes to a recipient at U.N. headquarters in New York. Among them were the secret signals of the Mogadishu operation. After the CIA agents in Mogadishu reported their findings to the White House, they were told to destroy all the papers, making sure they had the originals. This was the first and only time the CIA got hold of evidence that its most secret codes were in the hands of the ex-Saudi terror master. Boutros-Ghali is a former Egyptian diplomat who served as U.N. secretary-general from 1992 through 1995. In the '70s, he officiated as undersecretary for foreign affairs in his country's government under President Anwar Sadat. Boutros-Ghali is currently secretary of the Francophone Group of Nations, which disseminates French culture and influence, especially in the Middle East and Africa. He is also an unofficial adviser on the Middle East to French President Jacque Chirac. Less known are his close ties with the Palestinians and long personal friendship with their leader, Yasser Arafat, from the '60s, when Arafat made his debut on the international stage. Ghali still retains considerable influence in the plotting of Arafat's strategy, DEBKA reports. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24858Bin Laden and the Mogadishu massacreWhen U.S. tried to aid Somalians, terrorists conducted guerrilla war http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&complete_911_timeline_alleged_al_qaeda_linked_attacks=complete_911_timeline_1993_somalia_fightinghttp://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a100393mogadishu#a100393mogadishu... A 1998 US indictment will charge Osama bin Laden and his followers with training the attackers. [PBS Frontline, 10/3/2002] Rocket Propelled Grenades - While rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) are not usually effective against helicopters, the fuses on the RPGs fired by the Somalis against US helicopters are modified so that they explode in midair. During the Soviet-Afghan War, bin Laden associates had learned from the US and British that, although it is hard to score a direct hit on a helicopter’s weak point—its tail rotor—a grenade on an adjusted fuse exploding in midair can spray a tail rotor with shrapnel, causing a helicopter to crash. [Los Angeles Times, 2/25/2002] Possibly Trained by Al-Qaeda - For months, many al-Qaeda operatives had been traveling to Somalia and training militants in an effort to oppose the presence of US soldiers there. Even high-ranking al-Qaeda leaders like Mohammed Atef were directly involved (see Late 1992-October 1993). Comment by Bin Laden - In a March 1997 interview, bin Laden will say of the Somalia attack, “With Allah’s grace, Muslims over there cooperated with some Arab mujaheddin who were in Afghanistan… against the American occupation troops and killed large numbers of them.” [CNN, 4/20/2001] Some Al-Qaeda Operatives Leave Somalia after Battle - Al-Qaeda operative L’Houssaine Kherchtou, who supports the organization’s operations in Somalia, will later say that he was told this event also led at least some al-Qaeda members to flee Somalia. “They told me that they were in a house in Mogadishu and one of the nights one of the helicopters were shot, they heard some shooting in the next house where they were living, and they were scared, and the next day they left because they were afraid that they will be caught by the Americans.” [Bergen, 2006, pp. 141]
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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2009, 07:05:43 AM » |
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Hey morons:
If the Merchant Marine crews were well armed, and trained to use their weapons, do you think they would be attacked by pirates?
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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2009, 11:08:02 AM » |
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with RPGs the tactics would probably just change...all the pirates may do is demand a ransom to be dropped while ships are passing or they will deluge the ship with RPGs firebombs or put out mines
arming the crew is a good thought but will not stop any pirates activity
we cant keep military in the area forever and anyway you look at it the price of goods will have one more reason to rise
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The rich. You know why they're so odd. Because they can afford to be ------------ I've been too many places. I'm like the bad penny. ------------ This Country Needs An Enema !
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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2009, 11:17:05 AM » |
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Im surprised that they dont use a sound weapon on these ships. I personally would like to see pirates die a horrible death for trying to hijack these ships. But I would think they would incorporate the sound weapons theyre using in Iraq and of course the streets of USA.
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« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2009, 11:25:16 AM » |
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The good guys should have RPGs, vulcans, etc.  "shall not infringe..."
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« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2009, 11:28:16 AM » |
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The rich. You know why they're so odd. Because they can afford to be ------------ I've been too many places. I'm like the bad penny. ------------ This Country Needs An Enema !
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« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2009, 11:31:21 AM » |
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THIS IS JUST ANOTHER THING THAT WE NEED PRIVATE SOLDIERS FOR PROTECTION.
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I took the red pill. I can handle the truth !!?
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« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2009, 03:50:55 PM » |
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bring in the microwaves !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpjxjLRKqw8Sit back and watch pirates pop out of the water .... 
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« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2009, 04:11:22 PM » |
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Perhaps in the face of all of the "Somali Al-Qaeda" Bullshit, we should notice that we are being spoon fed information about the good 'ol American ship that got overpowered by the evil, psycopathic and all-powerful pirates. Alns then these sub-human animals backed out of a deal. And then they would not let the John Wayne Captain escape. Please understand the company involved in this situation: http://www.maersk.com/en/Pages/Welcome.aspxCorporate citizenship Good corporate citizenship is an integral part of the way we do business. Read more about our corporate citizenship here. Our Commitment In the A.P. Moller - Maersk Group we believe in sustainability. In line with our values we are committed to developing environmentally friendly solutions to the challenge on environment and climate change. Not only does this offer a competitive edge to our business, equally important are the benefit... Maersk Logistics’ SupplyChain CarbonCheck™ is Topic of Presentation at the EPA's SmartWay International Summit (CARBON TAXING). http://www.maersklogistics.com/sw46136.aspMaersk Logistics has joined the MIT CTL Supply Chain Exchange, bringing together the expertise of two leaders in the area of supply chain management (RFID CHIPPING). http://www.maersklogistics.com/
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« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2009, 04:12:43 PM » |
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I personally would like to see pirates die a horrible death for trying to hijack these ships.
Let me get this straight. You'd like to see a bunch of malnourished Somalians whose seas are empty after big companies used the political chaos to dump their toxic and radioactive waste in their seas die a horrible death because they hijack ships to survive? It's a bit like if I'd say I'd like to see American troops die horrible deaths.
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« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2009, 04:21:03 PM » |
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Im surprised that they dont use a sound weapon on these ships. I personally would like to see pirates die a horrible death for trying to hijack these ships. But I would think they would incorporate the sound weapons theyre using in Iraq and of course the streets of USA.
please do not promote violence on this forum either against the psycopathic genocidal maniac queen of england or the malnourished and starving somalis. BTW, this may help you get away from the spoon fed predictive programming and into reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBWGo7pef8
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« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2009, 04:21:15 PM » |
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 Somali Pirates : An Excuse to Ratify LOST? BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2009, 05:56:54 PM » |
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sane f**k you
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« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2009, 07:24:46 AM » |
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http://Http://WWW.sfbayview.Com/2009/you-are-being-lied-to-about-pirates/(excerpt from the above link) In 1991, the government of Somalia - in the Horn of Africa - collapsed. Its 9 million people have been teetering on starvation ever since - and many of the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country’s food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas. Yes: nuclear waste. As soon as the government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died. Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the U.N. Envoy to Somalia, tells me: “Somebody is dumping nuclear material here. There is also lead and heavy metals such as cadmium and mercury - you name it.” Much of it can be traced back to European hospitals and factories, who seem to be passing it on to the Italian Mafia to “dispose” of cheaply. When I asked Ould-Abdallah what European governments were doing about it, he said with a sigh: “Nothing. There has been no cleanup, no compensation and no prevention.” At the same time, other European ships have been looting Somalia’s seas of their greatest resource: seafood. We have destroyed our own fish stocks by over-exploitation - and now we have moved on to theirs. More than $300 million worth of tuna, shrimp, lobster and other sea life is being stolen every year by vast trawlers illegally sailing into Somalia’s unprotected seas. The local fishermen have suddenly lost their livelihoods, and they are starving. Mohammed Hussein, a fisherman in the town of Marka 100km south of Mogadishu, told Reuters: “If nothing is done, there soon won’t be much fish left in our coastal waters.” This is the context in which the men we are calling “pirates” have emerged. Everyone agrees they were ordinary Somalian fishermen who at first took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or at least wage a “tax” on them. They call themselves the Volunteer Coast Guard of Somalia - and it’s not hard to see why. In a surreal telephone interview, one of the pirate leaders, Sugule Ali, said their motive was “to stop illegal fishing and dumping in our waters … We don’t consider ourselves sea bandits. We consider sea bandits [to be] those who illegally fish and dump in our seas and dump waste in our seas and carry weapons in our seas.” William Scott would understand those words. No, this doesn’t make hostage-taking justifiable, and yes, some are clearly just gangsters - especially those who have held up World Food Program supplies. But the “pirates” have the overwhelming support of the local population for a reason. The independent Somalian news site WardherNews conducted the best research we have into what ordinary Somalis are thinking - and it found 70 percent “strongly supported the piracy as a form of national defense of the country’s territorial waters.” During the revolutionary war in America, George Washington and America’s founding fathers paid pirates to protect America’s territorial waters, because they had no navy or coast guard of their own. Most Americans supported them. Is this so different? Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches, paddling in our nuclear waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome? We didn’t act on those crimes - but when some of the fishermen responded by disrupting the transit corridor for 20 percent of the world’s oil supply, we begin to shriek about “evil.” If we really want to deal with piracy, we need to stop its root cause - our crimes - before we send in the gunboats to root out Somalia’s criminals. The story of the 2009 war on piracy was best summarized by another pirate, who lived and died in the fourth century BC. He was captured and brought to Alexander the Great, who demanded to know “what he meant by keeping possession of the sea.” The pirate smiled and responded: “What you mean by seizing the whole earth; but because I do it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, while you, who do it with a great fleet, are called emperor.” Once again, our great imperial fleets sail in today - but who is the robber?
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« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2009, 07:34:37 AM » |
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There's always more to the story. Yesterday they reported the pirates sent in reinforcements as did the u.s. navy. bizarre. i wonder if the pirates' reasons will be reported on, straight from the pirates i mean, this story is interesting. Im going to look into the nuclear waste claims.
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« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2009, 07:37:32 AM » |
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Yeah, I read this a while ago. Those so called pirates are only trying to get food and protect their waters. Funny how the media won't mention this eh??
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« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2009, 07:37:57 AM » |
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« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2009, 07:47:11 AM » |
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Securing supply of oil Two factors undermine the credibility of the EU's operation in Somalia. Firstly, the main goal of the mission seems to be to secure the supply of goods and oil to the rich countries in the West. In the past, the European Union resolutely rejected repeated calls from the African Union and Somalia's neighbours to deploy peace-keeping forces in the country. The rise of piracy on Somalia's waters has suddenly ignited a spark in the corridors of EU decision makers, after the hijacking of a large Saudi oil tanker reminded the western world of the vulnerability of maritime trade at a time of financial crisis. The organisation Refugees International (RI) criticised, recently, this global hypocrisy toward Somalia. The RI stated that "the speed and resolve with which piracy has been addressed by the UN Security Council underlines Somali sentiment that economic interests trump humanitarian concerns." Secondly, the EU's inability or unwillingness to stop and punish the European-owned companies that have for many years been dumping toxic waste off the Somali coast seriously undermines the ethical claims of the new EU endeavour. Toxic waste In 1996, when I was in the northern autonomous region, Puntland, in Somalia, there was already a widespread fear that foreign ships were taking advantage of the collapse of the Somalian state by using the nation's waters as a refuse dump. When the tsunami of 2004 hit the country, the United Nation Environment Programme (UNEP) reported that many waste containers washed up on the the coast of Puntland. It is now widely understood that European companies are systematically dumping toxic waste in these waters. The UN special envoy for Somalia, Ahmedou Ould Abdallah, has in the past few months repeatedly sounded the alarm about illegal fishing and toxic dumping off Somalia by European firms. Mr Abdullah said that his organisation has "reliable information" that European and Asian companies are dumping the waste - including nuclear waste, - in this region. The European Union has responded to these allegations with silence. At a press conference on 2 December, following the UN Security Council resolution on Somalia, a reporter from Inner City Press asked Ambassador Ripert of France, which holds the EU's presidency, about how the waste issue will be dealt with. The ambassador answered: "I have no comment on the issue." There is now a fear that, if the EU clears Somali waters of pirates, European waste-dumping firms will inherit a safe haven to exercise their criminal and immoral activities. If Europe wants to help the unfortunate people of Somalia, the most responsible and credible way to start would be stop and punish those companies. In the long term, the union should also develop a comprehensive plan for the restoration of peace and stability in the country. The Somali born author is a chemist at Linkoping University Hospital, Sweden and can be contacted at abdimajid@passagen.se
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« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2009, 07:50:11 AM » |
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Somalia's secret dumps of toxic waste washed ashore by tsunamiFrom Jonathan Clayton in Johannesburg Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,18690-1509979,00.htmlMarch 04, 2005 THE huge waves which battered northern Somalia after the tsunami in December are believed to have stirred up tonnes of nuclear and toxic waste illegally dumped in the war-racked country during the early 1990s. Apart from killing about 300 people and destroying thousands of homes, the waves broke up rusting barrels and other containers and hazardous waste dumped along the long, remote shoreline, a spokesman for the United Nations Environment Programme (Unep) said. “Initial reports indicate that the tsunami waves broke open containers full of toxic waste and scattered the contents. We are talking about everything from medical waste to chemical waste products,” Nick Nuttal, the Unep spokesman, told The Times. “We know this material is on the land and is now being blown around and possibly carried to villages. What we do not know is the full extent of the problem.” Mr Nuttall said that a UN assessment mission that recently returned from the lawless African country, which has had no government since 1991, reported that several Somalis in the northern areas were ill with diseases consistent with radiation sickness. “We need more information. We need to find out what has been going on there, but there is real cause for concern,” he added. “We now need to urgently send in a multi-agency expert mission, led by Unep, for a full investigation.” An initial UN report says that many people in the areas around the northeastern towns of Hobbio and Benadir, on the Indian Ocean coast, are suffering from far higher than normal cases of respiratory infections, mouth ulcers and bleeding, abdominal haemorrhages and unusual skin infections. “The current situation along the Somali coastline poses a very serious environmental hazard not only in Somalia but also in the eastern Africa sub-region,” the report says. Toxic waste was first dumped in Somalia in the late 1980s, but accelerated sharply during the civil war which followed the 1991 overthrow of the late dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. Local warlords, many of them former ministers in Siad Barre’s last government, received large payments from Swiss and Italian firms for access to their respective fiefdoms. Most of the waste was simply dumped on remote beaches in containers and leaking disposable barrels. Somali sources close to the trade say that the dumped materials included radioactive uranium, lead, cadmium, mercury and industrial, hospital, chemical and various other toxic wastes. In 1992, Unep said that European firms were involved in the trade, but because of the high level of insecurity in the country there were never any accurate assessments of the extent of the problem. In 1997 and 1998, the Italian newspaper Famiglia Cristiana, which jointly investigated the allegations with the Italian branch of Greenpeace, published a series of articles detailing the extent of illegal dumping by a Swiss firm, Achair Partners, and an Italian waste broker, Progresso. The European Green Party followed up the revelations by presenting to the press and the European Parliament in Strasbourg copies of contracts signed by the two companies and representatives of the then “President” — Ali Mahdi Mohamed — to accept 10 million tonnes of toxic waste in exchange for $80 million (then about £60 million). Abdullahi Elmi Mohamed, a Somali academic studying in Sweden, told The Times that this worked out at “approximately $8 per tonne, while in Europe the cost for disposal and treatment of toxic waste material could go up to $1,000 per tonne”. Mr Ali Mahdi, who then controlled north Mogadishu and who worked closely with the UN during its disastrous 1992-95 humanitarian mission to the country, has always refused to discuss the issue even though an Italian parliamentary report subsequently confirmed many of the allegations. Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,18690-1509979,00.html
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« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2009, 07:54:05 AM » |
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http://somalimonitor.com/blog/archives/767with video here, i think we've shown the credibility of this angle.
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« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2009, 07:55:05 AM » |
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sane f**k you
dude, what is the problem? you know that the violent thing is a no-no here. And it is obvious that we are not being given all of the information on this incident. Why the animosity?
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« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2009, 07:57:14 AM » |
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Great links, I'll be sharing these!
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« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2009, 07:58:02 AM » |
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« Reply #64 on: April 11, 2009, 08:02:06 AM » |
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News Africa 'Toxic waste' behind Somali piracy By Najad Abdullahi
Some pirates operating off Somalia's coast claim to act as coastguards [GALLO/GETTY]
Somali pirates have accused European firms of dumping toxic waste off the Somali coast and are demanding an $8m ransom for the return of a Ukranian ship they captured, saying the money will go towards cleaning up the waste.
The ransom demand is a means of "reacting to the toxic waste that has been continually dumped on the shores of our country for nearly 20 years", Januna Ali Jama, a spokesman for the pirates, based in the semi-autonomous region of Puntland, said.
"The Somali coastline has been destroyed, and we believe this money is nothing compared to the devastation that we have seen on the seas."
The pirates are holding the MV Faina, a Ukrainian ship carrying tanks and military hardware, off Somalia's northern coast.
According to the International Maritime Bureau, 61 attacks by pirates have been reported since the start of the year.
While money is the primary objective of the hijackings, claims of the continued environmental destruction off Somalia's coast have been largely ignored by the regions's maritime authorities.
Dumping allegations
Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy for Somalia confirmed to Al Jazeera the world body has "reliable information" that European and Asian companies are dumping toxic waste, including nuclear waste, off the Somali coastline.
"I must stress however, that no government has endorsed this act, and that private companies and individuals acting alone are responsible," he said
The pirates are holding the MV Faina off Somalia's northern coast [Reuters] Allegations of the dumping of toxic waste, as well as illegal fishing, have circulated since the early 1990s.
But evidence of such practices literally appeared on the beaches of northern Somalia when the tsunami of 2004 hit the country.
The UN Environment Programme (UNEP) reported the tsunami had washed up rusting containers of toxic waste on the shores of Puntland.
Nick Nuttall, a UNEP spokesman, told Al Jazeera that when the barrels were smashed open by the force of the waves, the containers exposed a "frightening activity" that has been going on for more than decade.
"Somalia has been used as a dumping ground for hazardous waste starting in the early 1990s, and continuing through the civil war there," he said.
"European companies found it to be very cheap to get rid of the waste, costing as little as $2.50 a tonne, where waste disposal costs in Europe are something like $1000 a tonne.
"And the waste is many different kinds. There is uranium radioactive waste. There is lead, and heavy metals like cadmium and mercury. There is also industrial waste, and there are hospital wastes, chemical wastes – you name it."
Nuttall also said that since the containers came ashore, hundreds of residents have fallen ill, suffering from mouth and abdominal bleeding, skin infections and other ailments.
"We [the UNEP] had planned to do a proper, in-depth scientific assessment on the magnitude of the problem. But because of the high levels of insecurity onshore and off the Somali coast, we are unable to carry out an accurate assessment of the extent of the problem," he said.
However, Ould-Abdallah claims the practice still continues.
"What is most alarming here is that nuclear waste is being dumped. Radioactive uranium waste that is potentially killing Somalis and completely destroying the ocean," he said.
Toxic waste
Ould-Abdallah declined to name which companies are involved in waste dumping, citing legal reasons.
But he did say the practice helps fuel the 18-year-old civil war in Somalia as companies are paying Somali government ministers to dump their waste, or to secure licences and contracts.
"There is no government control ... and there are few people with high moral ground ... [and] yes, people in high positions are being paid off, but because of the fragility of the TFG [transitional Federal Government], some of these companies now no longer ask the authorities – they simply dump their waste and leave."
Ould-Abdallah said there are ethical questions to be considered because the companies are negotiating contracts with a government that is largely divided along tribal lines.
"How can you negotiate these dealings with a country at war and with a government struggling to remain relevant?"
In 1992, a contract to secure the dumping of toxic waste was made by Swiss and Italian shipping firms Achair Partners and Progresso, with Nur Elmi Osman, a former official appointed to the government of Ali Mahdi Mohamed, one of many militia leaders involved in the ousting of Mohamed Siad Barre, Somalia's former president.
At the request of the Swiss and Italian governments, UNEP investigated the matter.
Both firms had denied entering into any agreement with militia leaders at the beginning of the Somali civil war.
Osman also denied signing any contract.
'Mafia involvement'
However, Mustafa Tolba, the former UNEP executive director, told Al Jazeera that he discovered the firms were set up as fictitious companies by larger industrial firms to dispose of hazardous waste.
"At the time, it felt like we were dealing with the Mafia, or some sort of organised crime group, possibly working with these industrial firms," he said.
Nations have found it difficult to tackle the problem of piracy [AFP] "It was very shady, and quite underground, and I would agree with Ould-Abdallah’s claims that it is still going on... Unfortunately the war has not allowed environmental groups to investigate this fully."
The Italian mafia controls an estimated 30 per cent of Italy's waste disposal companies, including those that deal with toxic waste.
In 1998, Famiglia Cristiana, an Italian weekly magazine, claimed that although most of the waste-dumping took place after the start of the civil war in 1991, the activity actually began as early as 1989 under the Barre government.
Beyond the ethical question of trying to secure a hazardous waste agreement in an unstable country like Somalia, the alleged attempt by Swiss and Italian firms to dump waste in Somalia would violate international treaties to which both countries are signatories.
Legal ramifications
Switzerland and Italy signed and ratified the Basel Convention on the Control of Transboundary Movements of Hazardous Wastes and their Disposal, which came into force in 1992.
EU member states, as well as 168 other countries have also signed the agreement.
The convention prohibits waste trade between countries that have signed the convention, as well as countries that have not signed the accord unless a bilateral agreement had been negotiated.
It is also prohibits the shipping of hazardous waste to a war zone.
Abdi Ismail Samatar, professor of Geography at the University of Minnesota, told Al Jazeera that because an international coalition of warships has been deployed to the Gulf of Aden, the alleged dumping of waste must have been observed.
Environmental damage
"If these acts are continuing, then surely they must have been seen by someone involved in maritime operations," he said.
"Is the cargo aimed at a certain destination more important than monitoring illegal activities in the region? Piracy is not the only problem for Somalia, and I think it's irresponsible on the part of the authorities to overlook this issue."
Mohammed Gure, chairman of the Somalia Concern Group, said that the social and environmental consequences will be felt for decades.
"The Somali coastline used to sustain hundreds of thousands of people, as a source of food and livelihoods. Now much of it is almost destroyed, primarily at the hands of these so-called ministers that have sold their nation to fill their own pockets."
Ould-Abdallah said piracy will not prevent waste dumping.
"The intentions of these pirates are not concerned with protecting their environment," he said.
"What is ultimately needed is a functioning, effective government that will get its act together and take control of its affairs."
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« Reply #65 on: April 11, 2009, 08:05:27 AM » |
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« Reply #66 on: April 11, 2009, 08:05:48 AM » |
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Come, Let Us Reason Together, Does anyone remember a movie called "Black Hawk Down?" It seems that took place in Somalia. We are being desensitized by the media and our children are being numbed up by constant scences of televised violence. Americans seem to be less emotionally responsive to the suffering of others. Those who are send thousands of dollars to children in "third world countries" while our children in the foothills of Kentucky, and tent cities spreading across the great union are not hearing voices scream "SAVE THE CHILDREN" Meanwhile back at the piracy point of view. It seems pirates bad behaviors have been rewarded by huge ransoms; TRUE or FALSE? It seems many nations are involved because pirates have taken their citizens "hostage" TRUE or FALSE? It seems the Alabama was carrying food. Are the somalian people hungry? TRUE or FALSE? This is only a test......
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« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2009, 08:06:21 AM » |
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this is big...wonder why msm does not mention this...
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« Reply #68 on: April 11, 2009, 08:08:07 AM » |
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I posted the following on the other thread about this incident: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98207.0~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Perhaps in the face of all of the "Somali Al-Qaeda" Bullshit, we should notice that we are being spoon fed information about the good 'ol American ship that got overpowered by the evil, psycopathic and all-powerful pirates. And about how these sub-human animals backed out of a deal. And then they would not let the John Wayne Captain escape (no offense meant to the captain or his family who is being exploited by the NWO media).
Please understand the company involved in this situation:----------------------------------------- http://www.maersk.com/en/Pages/Welcome.aspx Corporate citizenship Good corporate citizenship is an integral part of the way we do business. Read more about our corporate citizenship here.
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This may help people get away from the spoon fed predictive programming and into reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBWGo7pef8
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Also Donnay (who has been monitoring this from the beginning) posted the following article:
Somali Pirates : An Excuse to Ratify LOST?William F. Jasper | The New American09 April 2009 Sooner or later it was bound to happen. Over the past several years, American ships and crews had evaded the rising tide of piracy in the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea. But on April 8, pirates off the coast of Somalia seized a U.S.-flagged container ship, the Maersk Alabama, with a crew of 20 Americans. However, the American seamen were unwilling to join the crews of 18 other ships who are being held for ransom by the Somali pirates. In what is believed to be an unprecedented action in the Somali pirates’ sphere of operations, the unarmed crew fought back and overpowered their attackers. Although the details of the struggle are still sketchy, various news organizations have reported that the Americans used fire hoses and strength of numbers to overpower one or more of the pirates. The fight resulted in a standoff, with several pirates holding the ship’s captain, Richard Phillips of Underhill, Vermont, and the crew holding one of the pirates. The crew and pirates negotiated a deal that involved an exchange of prisoners and the pirates using one of the ship’s lifeboats to depart, since they had scuttled their speedboat when boarding the cargo ship. However, the pirates reneged on the deal and took Capt. Phillips hostage with them aboard the lifeboat. The USS Bainbridge, a destroyer, arrived on the scene this morning, where the lifeboat with the pirates and Capt. Phillips is still floating near the Maersk Alabama. We hope this high seas drama ends with Capt. Phillips safely returned to his ship. But what to do about the escalating problem of piracy, not only around the Horn of Africa but in the busy Strait of Malacca and other troubled waters as well? The LOST "Solution" Our globalist-minded policy elites have the solution, of course: more empowerment of the United Nations. If you haven’t already heard of the LOST prescription for piracy, you soon will. Ratification of the UN Law Of the Sea Treaty (LOST, also called UNCLOS, for UN Convention on the Law of the Sea) is a “top priority” for the new Obama administration, according to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The push for ratifying LOST heretofore has relied largely on environmental propaganda: LOST is “essential” for global cooperation to save the whales, the seals, the polar bears, the penguins, the plankton, the icebergs … (pick the endangered critter or object de jour). However, the age-old scourge of piracy has always been a back-up argument. Articles 100-107 and Article 110 of the UN Law Of the Sea Treaty deal with piracy. The administration of George W. Bush broke with past Republican opposition to LOST and strongly endorsed the convention, which would dangerously undermine national sovereignty and transfer vast new powers to the United Nations to control and/or regulate virtually all human activity on, over, or under the oceans, including the seabed, coastal areas, and inland waterways (rivers, streams, and lakes) that empty into the oceans. Shortly before leaving office, the Bush State Department issued statements supporting UN peacekeeping and LOST as a remedies for the Somali pirate problem. In a December 17, 2008 “Fact Sheet” entitled “United States Actions on Somalia Piracy,” the Bush State Department declared: The United States remains deeply concerned by the continuing threat of piracy in the Horn of Africa and its impact on commercial shipping … and overall stability in the region…. The United States believes that a proper United Nations supported peacekeeping mission is necessary to combat piracy in the Horn of Africa. The document goes on to say: The United States, along with the international community, continues to use the legal framework provided by international treaties for addressing piracy. The UN Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) gives authorities the power to arrest or deter pirates on the high seas. And, furthermore: The United States recognizes piracy is a symptom of the lack of stability, security, economic development, and rule of law on the ground. Addressing these deficits in Somalia. Therefore, the United States recognizes the need for the deployment of a United Nations peacekeeping operation. Then, on January 14, one week before handing over the reins of government to the new Obama administration, the Bush State Department issued a new fact sheet stating: Pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1851, the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast of Somalia (CGPCS) was established on January 14, 2009 to facilitate discussion and coordination of actions among states and organizations to suppress piracy off the coast of Somalia. The CGPCS will report its progress periodically to the UN Security Council. The Contact Group notes “with deep concern that piracy off the coast of Somalia grew significantly in 2008, and that attacks on shipping vessels can be expected to increase without enhanced international efforts.” So, what will this UN Contact Group, of which the United States is a member, do about Somali piracy? Again, the State Department informs us: As an international cooperation mechanism created pursuant to Security Council resolution 1851 to act as a point of contact between and among states, regional and international organizations on aspects of combating piracy and armed robbery at sea off Somalia’s coast, the CGPCS will inform the UN Security Council on a regular basis of the progress of its activities, including through providing relevant information to the UN Secretary General for possible incorporation into his periodic reports to the Council. But here’s where it gets to the crux of the matter: The CGPCS calls on state parties to implement their obligations under relevant treaties and applicable international law, including in particular the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea with respect to suppressing piracy.... [Emphasis added.] How will LOST assist in “suppressing piracy”? It won’t. In fact, it will cripple any effective U.S. action by binding us down with “international law” — as defined and interpreted by anti-American forces in the UN and their allies in our media and our government. Article 110 of LOST, for instance, states: “The right of hot pursuit ceases as soon as the ship pursued enters the territorial sea of its own State or of a third State.” So, if the pirates slip their speedboats into the territorial waters of Somalia, Kenya, or Ethiopia, they’re home free. Their pirate bases are likewise protected. Luckily, the infant U.S. republic was not burdened with the UN or LOST when the Barbary Pirates were the scourge of the Mediterranean. The great European sea powers — Britain, France, Spain, Holland, Portugal — paid tribute to the murderous brigands and slavers of Tripoli. So did America, until our new nation finally said, “Enough!” — and built its own navy and sent a force to deal with the villains. The intrepid exploits of Commodore Edward Prebel, Lieutenant Stephen Decatur, Consul William Eaton, Lieutenant Presley O’Bannon, and Captain William Bainbridge are legendary. Against incredible odds, and against difficulties far greater than those we face today from the Somali pirates, they triumphed — without sacrificing U.S. sovereignty and independence of action to a global authority. Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, the most eminent naval hero of the time, praised Decatur’s raid on Tripoli as "the most bold and daring act of the age." Pope Pius VII effusively praised Preble's attacks on the pirates, saying the American offensive "had done more for the cause of Christianity than the most powerful nations of Christendom have done for ages." The inspiring story of America’s earliest experience in dealing with piracy on the high seas is brilliantly told by Thomas Jewett, in an online article entitled, “Terrorism In Early America: The U.S. Wages War Against The Barbary States to End International Blackmail and Terrorism.” The present generation of Americans should read this stirring and instructive chronicle of the good sense and heroism of our forebears in dealing with international criminals. The captain and crew of the Maersk Alabama appear to be imbued with some of the same sense and courage; they didn’t wait for a UN resolution or a LOST tribunal to tell them that it was OK to resist their captors. We need some of that good sense and courage in the halls of Congress, in the White House, and the State Department.
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« Reply #69 on: April 11, 2009, 08:14:37 AM » |
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Finally glad to get some real information on this matter.
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« Reply #70 on: April 11, 2009, 08:17:47 AM » |
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To understand more about the over 400 year old plan by the East India Trading Company to control all trade in the world (and to destroy any rebellion by any means necessary including controlled opposition piracy-research Rhode Island's original elite), please research this man: Committee of 300 (aka Olympians) Shadow government http://www.whale.to/b/300.html Targets of the Illuminati and the Committee of 300 By Dr. John Coleman. Thanks to the sworn testimony of Guerzoni, Italy and Eu- rope but not the U.S. learned that Kissinger was behind the death of Aldo Moro. This tragic affair demonstrates the ability of the Committee of 300 to impose its will upon any government without exception. Secure in his position as a member of the most powerful secret society in the world, and I am not talking about Freemasonry, Kissinger not only terrified Moro, but carried through on his threats to "eliminate" Moro if he did not give up his plan to bring economic and industrial progress to Italy. In June and July of 1982, the wife of Aldo Moro testified in open court that her husband's murder came about as a result of serious threats against his life, made by what she called "a high ranking United States political figure." Mrs. Eleanora Moro repeated the precise phrase reportedly used by Kissinger in the sworn testimony of Guerzoni: "Either you stop your political line or you will pay dearly for it." Recalled by the judge, Guerzoni was asked if he could identify the person Mrs. Moro was talking about. Guerzoni replied that it was indeed Henry Kissinger as he had previously intimated.- John Coleman, The Story of The Committee of 300, p. 7 The Order of the Garter is the secret inner group which is an elite group within the Order of St. John of Jerusalem which is the British part of the Knights of Malta. The Knights of the Garter are the leaders of the Committee of 300. They are diabolical men. Lord Peter Carrington, who is a member of the satanic Order of Osiris and other demonic groups is a member of the Order of the Garter. Lord Palmerston is an example from history of another similar example of a Knight of the Garter who was totally corrupt, pretended to be a Christian, and practiced Satanism. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 4. DuPonts To bring about depopulation of large cities according to the trial run carried out by the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia. It is interesting to note that Pol Pot's genocidal plans were drawn up in the US by one of the Club of Rome's research foundations, and overseen by Thomas Enders, a high-ranking State Department official. It is also interesting that the committee is currently seeking to reinstate the Pol Pot butchers in Cambodia. Targets of the Illuminati and the Committe of 300 By Dr. John Coleman. http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/committeof300.htm This committee of 300 is modeled after the British East India Company's Council of 300, founded by the British aristocracy in 1727. Most of its immense wealth arose out of the opium trade with China. This group is responsible for the phony drug wars here in the U.S. These phony drug wars were to get us to give away our constitutional rights. Asset forfeiture is a prime example, where huge assets can be seized without trail and no proof of guilt needed. Also the Committee of 300 long ago decreed that there shall be a smaller-much smaller-and better world, that is, their idea of what constitutes a better world. The myriads of useless eaters consuming scarce natural resources were to be culled. Industrial progress supports population growth. Therefore the command to multiply and subdue the earth found in Genesis had to be subverted. This called for an attack upon Christianity; the slow but sure disintegration of industrial nation states; the destruction of hundreds of millions of people, referred to by the Committee of 300 as "surplus population, " and the removal of any leader who dared to stand in the way of the Committee's global planning to reach the foregoing objectives. Not that the U.S. government didn't know, but as it was part of the conspiracy, it helped to keep the lid on information rather than let the truth be known. Queen, Elizabeth II, is the head of the Committee of 300. The Committee of 300 looks to social convulsions on a global scale, followed by depressions, as a softening-up technique for bigger things to come, as its principal method of creating masses of people all over the world who will become its "welfare" recipients of the future. The committee appears to base much of its important decisions affecting mankind on the philosophy of Polish aristocrat, Felix Dzerzinski, who regarded mankind as being slightly above the level of cattle. As a close friend of British intelligence agent Sydney Reilly (Reilly was actually Dzerzinski's controller during the Bolshevik Revolution's formative years), he often confided in Reilly during his drinking bouts. Dzerzinski was, of course, the beast who ran the Red Terror apparatus. He once told Reilly, while the two were on a drinking binge, that "Man is of no importance. Look at what happens when you starve him. He begins to eat his dead companions to stay alive. Man is only interested in his own survival. That is all that counts. All the Spinoza stuff is a lot of rubbish."  More: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=11388.0
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Perhaps in the face of all of the "Somali Al-Qaeda" Bullshit The Neil Boortz show on thursday was totally nauseating. His whole take on the story was the pirates are muslims and obama is showing weakness  he ranted on and on about the 'peaceful' religion of islam and how we should expect them to terrorize the seas for evermore cause obama hasnt sent seals in to get the american and muslims are animals blah blah aack.
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« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2009, 08:51:40 AM » |
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Thanks Sane. I'm sorry for posting something that has already been posted. But in this forum (for me anyway) it's really hard to search archives because the results don't post by date (maybe I'm doing something wrong). There are so many posts to follow, I can't always keep up with them.
Your info is great by the way!
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« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2009, 08:56:52 AM » |
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posted about this in another forum here is the response one sheeple gave: "The nuclear waste issue is not new. It's been known about and discussed for years - but it has nothing to do with "mysterious" European ships secretly dumping waste in the dead of night as the rather slanted story above alleges. Rather, it has a great deal more to do with poor Somalis looking for ways to make a buck - which, by the way, they're now trying to do with pirating:"
Quote: Toxic waste was first dumped in Somalia in the late 1980s, but accelerated sharply during the civil war which followed the 1991 overthrow of the late dictator Mohamed Siad Barre.
Local warlords, many of them former ministers in Siad Barre’s last government, received large payments from Swiss and Italian firms for access to their respective fiefdoms. Most of the waste was simply dumped on remote beaches in containers and leaking disposable barrels.
Somali sources close to the trade say that the dumped materials included radioactive uranium, lead, cadmium, mercury and industrial, hospital, chemical and various other toxic wastes. In 1992, Unep said that European firms were involved in the trade, but because of the high level of insecurity in the country there were never any accurate assessments of the extent of the problem.
In 1997 and 1998, the Italian newspaper Famiglia Cristiana, which jointly investigated the allegations with the Italian branch of Greenpeace, published a series of articles detailing the extent of illegal dumping by a Swiss firm, Achair Partners, and an Italian waste broker, Progresso. The European Green Party followed up the revelations by presenting to the press and the European Parliament in Strasbourg copies of contracts signed by the two companies and representatives of the then “President” — Ali Mahdi Mohamed — to accept 10 million tonnes of toxic waste in exchange for $80 million (then about £60 million).http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle418665.ece
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One of the world's biggest owners of oil and gas tankers has become the first major operator to announce plans to enter the market to transport captured carbon dioxide. Maersk Tankers, part of Denmark's AP Moller-Maersk, said demand for the service could be vast - around 750m tonnes of carbon dioxide are emitted from large power plants around the North Sea alone. That amount would fill around 380 tankers of the kind Maersk envisages using for the new market. Most previous plans to transport captured carbon dioxide have focused on using pipelines to move it from power stations and other producing sites to underground reservoirs. The technique is designed to prevent carbon dioxide emissions entering the atmosphere and worsening global warming. Maersk announced its plans at an international scientific conference on climate change near its Copenhagen headquarters. The meeting was part of the preparation for the United Nations climate conference in Copenhagen in December. The market would require new tankers with a mix of the capabilities of Maersk's existing liquefied natural gas and liquefied petroleum gas carriers, Martin Fruergaard, senior vice-president of Maersk Tankers, said. The gas would need to be both refrigerated, as happens on LNG carriers, and kept under pressure, as is LPG. "It's a natural move for us," Mr Fruergaard said. Jeff Chapman, chief executive of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association, an industry body, said it seemed to be a practical idea to move captured carbon dioxide by ship. "I'm convinced there's a place for it in local delivery," he said. While movement in ships would itself produce carbon dioxide, that was true of any method for moving the gas, Mr Chapman said. Maersk said that ships could be more flexible and better for moving small quantities of carbon dioxide than pipelines. They could also be used to take the captured gas to places such as Saudi Arabia, with significant space for storing the gas in old oil reservoirs, but too distant from producing centres to justify a pipeline. The company has no immediate plans to order ships to enter the market because there remain question marks over the carbon capture technology necessary to provide the gas. Mr Fruergaard said it would take about two years from ordering to have a vessel built. As a significant North Sea oil producer, -Maersk owns large undersea reservoirs that might be suitable for storing the gas. Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2009 Posted by Graham Crawford at 16:58:00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Review this entire newsletter for more information about ways to make money off the global warming hoax: http://cquestor.blogspot.com/
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« Reply #75 on: April 11, 2009, 09:57:46 AM » |
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A US ship, owned by a Pentagon contractor with ‘Top Security’ clearance, was seized off the Somali coast. Reports say the US crew has retaken the ship. But the question remains: Why are the pirates attacking? The Somali pirates who took control of the 17,000-ton “Maersk Alabama” cargo-ship in the early hours of Wednesday morning probably were unaware that the ship they were boarding belonged to a US Department of Defense contractor with “top security clearance,” which does a half-billion dollars in annual business with the Pentagon, primarily the Navy. The ship was being operated by an “all-American” crew—there were 20 US nationals onboard. “Every indication is that this is the first time a U.S.-flagged ship has been successfully seized by pirates,” said Lt. Nathan Christensen, a spokesperson for for the U.S. Navy’s Bahrain-based 5th Fleet. The last documented pirate attack of a US vessel by African pirates was reported in 1804, off Libya, according to The Los Angeles Times. The company, A.P. Moller-Maersk, is a Denmark-based company with a large US subsidiary, Maersk Line, Ltd, that serves US government agencies and contractors. The company, which is based in Norfolk, Virginia, runs the world’s largest fleet of US-flag vessels. The “Alabama” was about 300 miles off the coast of the Puntland region of northern Somalia when it was taken. The US military says the Alabama was not operating on a DoD contract at the time and was said to be delivering food aid. The closest US warship to the “Alabama” at the time of the seizure was 300 miles away. At the time of the seizure, the US Navy did not say how or if it would respond, but seemed not to rule out intervention. ”It’s fair to say we are closely monitoring the situation, but we will not discuss nor speculate on current and future military operations,” said Navy Cmdr. Jane Campbell. The seizure of the ship seemed to have been short-lived. At the time of this writing, the Pentagon was reporting that the US crew retook the ship and was holding one of the pirates in custody. At this point, it is unclear if the crew acted alone or had assistance from the military or another security force. Over the past year, there has been a dramatic uptick in media coverage of the “pirates,” particularly in the Gulf of Aden. Pirates reportedly took in upwards of $150 million in ransoms last year alone. In fact, at the moment the Alabama’s seizure, pirates were already holding 14 other vessels with about 200 crew members, according to the International Maritime Bureau. There have been seven hijackings in the past month alone. Often, the reporting on pirates centers around the gangsterism of the pirates and the seemingly huge ransoms they demand. Indeed, piracy can be a very profitable business, as the following report from Reuters suggests: A rough back-of-the-envelope calculation shows that the operation to hijack the Saudi tanker, the Sirius Star, cost no more than $25,000, assuming that the pirates bought new equipment and weapons ($450 apiece for an AK-47 Kalashnikov, $5,000 for an RPG-7 grenade launcher, $15,000 for a speedboat). That contrasts with an initial ransom demand to the tanker’s owner, Saudi Aramco, of $25 million. “Piracy is an excellent business model if you operate from an impoverished, lawless place like Somalia,” says Patrick Cullen, a security expert at the London School of Economics who has been researching piracy. “The risk-reward ratio is just huge.” But this type of coverage of the pirates is similar to the false narrative about “tribalism” being the cause of all of Africa’s problems. Of course, there are straight-up gangsters and criminals engaged in these hijackings. Perhaps the pirates who hijacked the Alabama on Wednesday fall into that category. We do not yet know. But that is hardly the whole “pirate” story. Consider what one pirate told The New York Times after he and his men seized a Ukrainian freighter “loaded with tanks, artillery, grenade launchers and ammunition” last year. “We don’t consider ourselves sea bandits,” said Sugule Ali:. “We consider sea bandits those who illegally fish in our seas and dump waste in our seas and carry weapons in our seas. We are simply patrolling our seas. Think of us like a coast guard.” Now, that “coast guard” analogy is a stretch, but his point is an important and widely omitted part of this story. Indeed the Times article was titled, “Somali Pirates Tell Their Side: They Want Only Money.” Yet, The New York Times acknowledged, “the piracy industry started about 10 to 15 years ago… as a response to illegal fishing.” Take this fact: Over $300 million worth of tuna, shrimp, and lobster are “being stolen every year by illegal trawlers” off Somalia’s coast, forcing the fishing industry there into a state of virtual non-existence. But it isn’t just the theft of seafood. Nuclear dumping has polluted the environment. “In 1991, the government of Somalia collapsed,” wrote Johann Hari in The Independent. “Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since – and the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country’s food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.” According to Hari: As soon as the [Somali] government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died. … This is the context in which the “pirates” have emerged. Somalian fishermen took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or at least levy a “tax” on them. They call themselves the Volunteer Coastguard of Somalia – and ordinary Somalis agree. The independent Somalian news site WardheerNews found 70 per cent “strongly supported the piracy as a form of national defence.” As the media coverage of the pirates has increased, private security companies like Xe/Blackwater have stepped in, seeing profits. A few months ago, Blackwater executives flew to London to meet with shipping company executives about protecting their ships from pirate attacks. In October, the company deployed the MacArthur, its “private sector warship equipped with helicopters” to the Gulf of Aden. “We have been contacted by shipowners who say they need our help in making sure goods get to their destination,” said the company’s executive vice-president, Bill Matthews. “The McArthur can help us accomplish that.” According to an engineer aboard the MacArthur, the ship, whose crew includes former Navy SEALS, was at one point stationed in an area several hundred miles off the coast of Yemen. “Security teams will escort ships around both horns of Africa, Somalia and Yemen as they head to the Suez Canal… The McArthur will serve as a staging point for the SEALs and their smaller boats.” All of this is important to keep in context any time you see a short blurb pop up about pirates attacking ships. “Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches, paddling in our toxic waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome?” Hari asked. “We won’t act on those crimes – the only sane solution to this problem – but when some of the fishermen responded by disrupting the transit-corridor for 20 percent of the world’s oil supply, we swiftly send in the gunboats.”
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« Reply #76 on: April 11, 2009, 10:33:34 AM » |
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I've just been listening to Friday's show refeed and it seems that Jones has caught a dose of the "stupid American" disease about this...
"Bomb Somali ports" says Jones ?? "They've reverted to stealing and theivery and have to be stopped". Because an American ship has been hijacked..that is woeful ignorance on the scale of his "couple of Israelis a week get killed by Hamas rockets" ridiculousness.
The UIC (United Islamic Courts) provided an effective government in Somalia that had the consent and support of the Somali people..so the CIA thought it would be cool to use the Ethiopians to invade and install a puppet regime...which failed miserably because the Somalis are not slaves and will not accept anyone's dominion. And that's what this piracy is about - an assertion of sovereignty and defending themselves from rape and robbing.
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« Reply #77 on: April 11, 2009, 10:41:49 AM » |
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Glad to see this on the forum during a time like this. We all know how the media loves to declare anyone who doesn't go along with the knee jerk reaction of "WAKE UP AMERICA, WE'RE UNDER ATTACK" as "unpatriotic unamerican unconstitutional" or something along those lines, but actually digging up some background information prevails over blind patriotism here.
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« Reply #78 on: April 11, 2009, 11:20:26 AM » |
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I've just been listening to Friday's show refeed and it seems that Jones has caught a dose of the "stupid American" disease about this...
"Bomb Somali ports" says Jones ?? "They've reverted to stealing and theivery and have to be stopped". Because an American ship has been hijacked..that is woeful ignorance on the scale of his "couple of Israelis a week get killed by Hamas rockets" ridiculousness.
The UIC (United Islamic Courts) provided an effective government in Somalia that had the consent and support of the Somali people..so the CIA thought it would be cool to use the Ethiopians to invade and install a puppet regime...which failed miserably because the Somalis are not slaves and will not accept anyone's dominion. And that's what this piracy is about - an assertion of sovereignty and defending themselves from rape and robbing.
"Bomb Somali ports" That's quite easy to turn around. Let's imagine someone from Iraq said something along these lines: "I didn't really like it when they dumped their depleted Uranium in my country and starved my children to death with their sanctions, but now they've reverted to thievery and stealing. They took over the entire country and stole all our oil! They have to be stopped. We need to bomb American ports!" The moment Alex voices his support for the bombing of American ports he doesn't come across as a hypocrite when he talks about bombing Somalian ports. But I remember hearing him talk about some family member he has that's in the military so I assume that's not going to happen.
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« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2009, 11:27:09 AM » |
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I've just been listening to Friday's show refeed and it seems that Jones has caught a dose of the "stupid American" disease about this...
"Bomb Somali ports" says Jones ?? "They've reverted to stealing and theivery and have to be stopped". Because an American ship has been hijacked..that is woeful ignorance on the scale of his "couple of Israelis a week get killed by Hamas rockets" ridiculousness.
The UIC (United Islamic Courts) provided an effective government in Somalia that had the consent and support of the Somali people..so the CIA thought it would be cool to use the Ethiopians to invade and install a puppet regime...which failed miserably because the Somalis are not slaves and will not accept anyone's dominion. And that's what this piracy is about - an assertion of sovereignty and defending themselves from rape and robbing.
Is it at all possible to actually do some research and post material rather than just spending every waking hour bashing AJ who is responsible for us having this forum in the first place? Just curious.
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