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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2009, 10:00:12 pm »
What is not covered in the British press is the fact that Saudi Arabia paid for the arms with oil. The oil was sold on the spot market, and this generated an estimated (in current dollars) $160 billion in cash. I am told by former U.S. Treasury Department officials that the funds generated from the oil sales, after BAE got their cut, went into offshore bank accounts. Those funds were invested by the usual hedge funds, etc. in places like the Cayman Islands, BVI, etc., and the profits over the past 23 years from those investments, multiplied the size of the fund tremendously.
 I look forward to any comments on this very big story, that has never gotten adequate media or Congressional attention, in my humble opinion.

This makes me wonder if one of the reasons the hedge funds are getting such preferential treatment
is because a good part of what is invested with them is off-balance-sheet money used to finance
covert operations.

Right before 9-11, Rumsfeld had a news conference where he acknowledged that the Pentagon
 was missing $1+ Trillion - un-accounted for, lost.

It looks like there is an off-balance-sheet government, basically the largest organized crime organization
in the history of the world, composed of people like Bandar Bush, the Bush's, Mossad, maybe a few
Russian oligarch's.  It is hard to see the entire octopus but it is possible to get a positive ID on some of
the tentacles.

Cheney managed the War Games.  Israel did the Demolitions.

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« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2009, 04:10:20 pm »

Right before 9-11, Rumsfeld had a news conference where he acknowledged that the Pentagon
 was missing $1+ Trillion - un-accounted for, lost.

One has to point the finger at Dual American-Israeli citizen Dov Zakheim:

Judicial Inc’s bio of Dov (linked below) tells us Zakheim was/is a dual Israeli/American citizen and an ordained rabbi and had been tracking the halls of US government for 25 years, casting defense policy and influence on Presidents Reagan, Clinton, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. He is, as I described him earlier, the bionic Zionist. In fact, Judicial Inc points out that most of Israel’s armaments were gotten thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.

Judicial Inc also points out that Israel, a country of 4.8 million Russian and Polish Jewish émigrés, flies on one of the biggest Air Forces in the world, thanks to Dov. Conflict of interest here? Depends on what you’re interested in. That is, in 2001 Dov was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
More from the resume: Wikipedia points out that Zakheim is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and in 2000 a co-author of the Project for the New American Century’s position paper, Rebuilding America’s Defenses, advocating the necessity for a Pearl-Harbor-like incident to mobilize the country into war with its enemies, mostly Middle Eastern Muslim nations.
Again, during Zakheim’s tenure as Pentagon controller from May 4, 2001, to March 10, 2004, over $3 trillion dollars were unaccounted for. Additionally, military Information was jeopardized and military contractors billed the US for Israeli items: $50 million dollar fighter jets were rated as surplus and the list rolls on. As the scandal of the missing trillion dollars surfaced and Dov resigned, Israel was handed the finest fighter jets in the US inventory while 15 percent of US jets were grounded for lack of parts. In whose best interest was this?

But Dov is not alone. He is one of an elite group of Jewish Americans/Israelis who inter-marry and enter government. They and their Christian counterparts are called neocons and their sole purpose is directing US policy. Most of them are dual citizens and few serve in the US military. Think of Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams, Richard Perle, Ben Wattenberg, to mention a few. Whether their motivation is anger at the Muslim world, seen as a religious and territorial enemy, or a deep-rooted reaction to the Holocaust, the culmination of European anti-Semitism, their reactionary militarism becomes a world-threatening force unto itself. Hence our concern.
Dov and the World Trade Center

Perhaps not coincidentally in May 2001, when Dov served at the Pentagon, it was an SPS (his firm’s) subsidiary, Tridata Corporation, that oversaw the investigation of the first “terrorist” attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. This would have given them intimate knowledge of the security systems and structural blueprints of the World Trade Center. From the '90s through 2001, WTC Security was handled by Securacom, a Kuwait-American firm, on whose board Marvin Bush, the president’s brother, sat. After 9/11, Securacom was let go, changed its name to Stratosec, and was delisted from the Stock Exchange in 2002.

According to Conspiracy writers Shadow and ‘Pax’ in Dov Zakheim and the 9/11 Conspiracy, (and I suggest you look at this link) “According to the SPC website (4), a recent customer at that time was Eglin AFB, located in Florida. Eglin is very near another Air Force base in Florida-MacDill AFB, where Dov Zakheim contracted to send at least 32 Boeing 767 aircraft, as part of the Boeing /Pentagon tanker lease agreement. (5)

”As the events of September 11, 2001 occurred, little was mentioned about these strange connections, and the possible motives and proximity of Dov Zakheim and his group. Since there was little physical evidence remaining after the events, investigators were left only with photographic and anecdotal evidence.

“There is a photograph of the Flight Termination System module, from their site.(5). Note it has a cylindrical shape, and is consistent with the size and shape of the object observed under the fuselage of flight 175.

“The Boeing lease deal involved the replacement of the aging KC-135 tanker fleet with these smaller, more efficient Boeing 767s that were to be leased by Dov Zakheim's group. The planes were to be refitted with refueling equipment, including lines and nozzle assemblies.”

(Remember both Flight 175, that hit the South Tower, and Flight 11, that hit the North Tower, were Boeing 767s. Flights 77 and 93 were 757s.)

“In the enlargement of flight 175’s photo, we can clearly see a cylindrical object under the fuselage, and a structure that appears to be attached to the right underside of the rear fuselage section.

”When seen in comparison, it is obvious that the plane approaching the Trade Center has both of these structures-the FTS module and the midair refueling equipment, as configured on the modified Boeing 767 tankers. Of particular interest is the long tube-like anomalous structure under the rear fuselage area of flight 175-this structure runs along the right rear bottom of the plane, as it also does on the Boeing 767 refueling tanker pictured.

”After considering this information, I [the author/s] am convinced that flight 175, as pictured on the news media and official reports, was in fact a refitted Boeing 767 tanker, with a Flight Termination System attached. Use of this system would also explain the expert handling of aircraft observed in both New York and Washington investigations, which has been officially credited to inexperienced flight school students.

“Since the refitted 767s were able to carry both passengers and a fuel load, as shown in this photo, it is likely that the plane designated Flight 175 was in fact a refitted 767 tanker, disguised as a conventional commercial passenger plane.

“As shown in this photo of a 767 being serviced, the FTS unit, when in position, would be small and unobtrusive enough to be fairly innocuous (at least to casual observers, such as passengers). The smallest circle indicates the size and position of the anomaly depicted in the photos of Flight 175. The larger circle, which is the size of the engine housing, shows the size of the anomaly in relation to the engine. Note the size and position of the open hatches on the engine housing, which would tend to discredit the widely held theory that the anomaly is an open hatch or cargo door.

“As the . . . diagram shows, all flights involved in the events traveled very near many military installations, and appear to have traveled in a manner suggesting guidance and possible transfer of the control of the planes among the bases.

”Since the evidence from the World Trade Center site was quickly removed, there is little concrete evidence of the involvement of Dov Zakheim, who has since left his position at the Pentagon. However, the proximity of Eglin AFB to MacDill AFB in Florida and Dov Zakheim's work via SPC contracts and the Pentagon leasing agreement on both of these installations, combined with SPC's access to World Trade Center structural and security information from their Tridata investigation in 1993, is highly suspicious. Considering his access to Boeing 767 tankers, remote control flight systems, and his published views in the PNAC document, it seems very likely he is in fact a key figure in the alleged terrorist attacks in New York City on September 11, 2001.”

Zakheim, who is a dual Israeli/American citizen and a Shul Rabbi, has stalked the halls of  US government for 25 yrs. He has set defense policy which influenced Presidents Reagan, Clinton and Bush Sr. and Jr. This rabid Zionist was the controller of the Pentagon when an audit discovered over a trillion dollars was missing. 

Most of Israel's armament was obtained thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and  F-15 were classified as military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.

Israel, a country of 4.8 million Russian and Polish Jews sits on one of the largest Air Forces in the world.

Dov S. Zakheim and 9/11

He predicts a Pearl-Harbor like terrorist attack in order to force the US into "war" and then use "war powers" to launch a coup against any non-Jewish forces in the government.


Zakheim is a rabid Zionist, who carries an Israel passport and is considered to be one of the top members of the secretive Illuminati . He predicts 9/11 and by sheer coincidence the Pentagon is hit by a remote controlled jet (Zakheim's ' SPC ' corporation is the premier company in the field).

During his tenure as controller at the Pentagon from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004, over one trillion dollars was unaccounted for.
Military information is jeopardized, military contractors billed the US for Israeli items, $50 million fighter jets are classified as surplus and the list goes on and on. As the scandal of the missing trillion dollars surfaces the Rabbi quickly resigns.

Israel is given the finest fighter jets in the US inventory while 15% of US jets are grounded for lack of parts.

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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2009, 08:20:54 pm »
Prince Bandar

Prince ?

Bandar, his Turdness, more like it.

Cheney managed the War Games.  Israel did the Demolitions.

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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2009, 09:20:24 pm »
That is, in 2001 Dov was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever

This was the connection I was looking for: Dov Zakheim - FTS and BAE-Ratheon-Ptech

Dr. Dov Zakheim was the former CEO of Systems Planning Corporation, a company that designs and manufactures extremely sophisticated control/guidance technology that enables an external operator to fly, and land, aircraft by remote control.

In partnership with Raytheon, System Planning Corporation also supplies CTS/FTS technology to commercial airplane manufacturers for installation in airliners (Boeing: confirmed; Airbus: undetermined, but highly probable given the consortium's connection to BAE, a US military contractor.)


Dov Zakheim actually stole $7 TRILLION from you (enough to implement a military coup) - and the media will NOT discuss it.

That’s because the money was sent to Israel - and Israel controls the media.

The timing of Rumsfeld’s announcement to acknowledge the missing trillions was selected by Karl Rove.

This leads a thinking mind to conclude that Rove and Rumsfeld BOTH had FOREKNOWLEDGE of 9/11 - unless of course you wish to chalk yet another example of 9/11 foreknowledge up to


Zakheim quietly resigned to the low profile confines of Booz Allen. They are likely planning a monument to him in Tel Aviv.

Zakheim did 9/11 - with Cheney and Mossad.

Raytheon Connection to 9-11


WHAT ARE THE ODDS? STOP. THINK. Raytheon is missing at least one if not two A-3 Skywarriors from its inventory. Ask them where they went.

2001-09-11 Stanley Hall Raytheon Director of Electronic warfare program management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 77, the one that supposedly hit the Pentagon but did not.

2001-09-11 Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk UAV remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

2001-09-11 Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Senior Quality Control for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

2001-09-11 David Kovalcin Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

2001-09-11 Herbert Homer Raytheon Corporate Executive working with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on United airlines Flight 175, the one that supposedly hit the South World Trade Tower II.

These are not only the type of people but they are the people that would be assigned to UAV type projects involving Mode 4 and Mode 5 upgrades. Why would they be in Boston and those planes coming from that direction and from north of Manhattan Island?

Hughes was purchased by Raytheon before 9-11 and that company has a fleet of A-3 Skywarriors that they use for testing air-to-air missiles AIM and air-to-ground missile AGM systems, guidance systems, electronic warfare systems, etc. They make them for the USAF, Navy and Marines as indicated in this excerpt from the Part V article cited above:

Type: AGM-65B (Air Force), AGM-65D (Air Force), AGM-65E (Marines), AGM-65F (Navy), AGM-65G (Air Force).

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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2009, 05:53:30 pm »
Frontline - Black Money

International bribery. It’s a trillion dollars a year, with corporations on one side, heads of state on the other. And it thrives in an invisible world.
Frontline Episode: Black Money: International Bribery-- Available Online

Frontline did a recent special program on the state of international bribery called Black Money. It showcases BAE systems an international arms manufacturer and the alleged bribery (to the tune of two billion dollars) to support a lavish lifestyle for a Saudi Prince. Interesting video. It surprises me that the US is the only major nation that seems to take a serious look at the bribery of international officials for the gain of a person or corporation.,0,601499.story

'Frontline: Black Money'
PBS puts a spotlight on arms dealing, allegations of international bribery and just who's willing to follow the money.

By Tony Perry
April 7, 2009
First the stipulation that "Black Money," a "Frontline" look at international bribery, is first-class journalism: high-minded, fact-filled and balanced, with some eye-catching visuals.

How could it be anything but stellar given the presence of correspondent Lowell Bergman, one of the top investigative journalists in the nation, if not the world?

Now the problem: It's dull and seems to be obsessing on an ethical problem that pales when compared with the real-world consequences of the banking industry scandals that have plunged the world into recession.
At the heart of "Black Money" is an $80-billion arms deal between the British-based company BAE Systems and the government of Saudi Arabia that officially began in the 1980s.

As British journalist David Leigh has reported in delicious detail, BAE allegedly slipped a bundle of money to a member of the Saudi royal family. Leigh's scoops were only the beginning.

But before British prosecutors could close in on the bribers and bribes, the Saudis warned the government of then-Prime Minister Tony Blair that the probe could imperil the complex relationship between the two countries.

With its British counterpart stymied, the U.S. Department of Justice is looking at BAE, which has 40,000 employees in the U.S. The U.S. has anti-bribery laws dating to the Jimmy Carter era that have made America both the envy and laughingstock of the international business community.

Months ago, in the world before the AIG bonuses, Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme and credit derivatives, news that the U.S. was looking at BAE as a test of U.S. anti-bribery laws would have seemed interesting, a nice bit of reporting.

Now there's something unsettling about the prospect of government lawyers taking actions that could throw more Americans out of work. It's a possibility that "Black Money" seems to skirt -- that the price of being high-minded may be economic ruin for more Americans.

In journalism there is a concept called "being overtaken by events" in which news developments undercut your story before it's published. "Black Money" has been overtaken by a tidal wave.

The moral of "Black Money" may be one unintended by the documentarians: that America -- and the Department of Justice -- should reform this country's business practices before attempting to lecture the world.

"We did not invent corruption," Prince Bandar bin Sultan tells Bergman. "This has happened since Adam and Eve. . . . This is human nature."

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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2009, 12:06:30 am »
former FBI Director Louis Freeh is now the attorney for Prince Bandar

April 12, 2009 (LPAC)—Editor's Note: This article will appear in a special economics package on behavioral economics in the upcoming issue of Executive Intelligence Review.

BAE Al-Yamamah Scandal Back in the Headlines
by Jeffrey Steinberg

PBS-TV's Frontline documentary series aired an hour-long exposé on April 7 of corporate bribery and corruption, headlined "Black Money." The centerpiece of the piece was the case of BAE Systems (formerly British Aerospace), the giant British arms cartel, and its unprecedented barter deal with Saudi Arabia, a deal known as Al-Yamamah ("The Dove").

As longtime readers of EIR know, the Anglo-Saudi Al-Yamamah deal was, and remains, far more than an unusual oil-for-weapons barter scheme. The story goes far beyond the tens of billions of dollars in payoffs from the British firm to scores of Saudi princes and businessmen. It goes beyond the larger-than-life role of Saudi Arabia's longtime former ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar bin-Sultan, who brokered the Al-Yamamah deal back in 1985, and received, at a minimum, $2 billion in BAE kickbacks for his efforts.

As EIR uniquely revealed—and as Frontline failed to report—under the Al-Yamamah barter deal, an offshore, off-the-books black operations slush fund, estimated at more than $100 billion, was built up, to finance covert operations on a global scale. Among those covert operations, acknowledged by author William Simpson in his semi-authorized biography of Prince Bandar: the bankrolling of the Afghan mujahideen, during the later phase of their decade-long war to drive the Soviet Army out of Afghanistan (1979-90); and the arming of the government of Chad with Soviet weapons, during Chad's war with Libya.

Other sources have told EIR that Al-Yamamah funds were also behind the coup attempt against the government of Equatorial Guinea in 2004. That coup attempt, for which Mark Thatcher, son of the former British Prime Minister, was indicted, implicated British mercenary Simon Mann and one of the central players in the Al-Yamamah bribery scandal, Wafic Said, a Syrian-born Saudi financier, whose Swiss bank accounts were at the center of the Al-Yamamah bribery schemes.

Indeed, it was at the point that Swiss courts authorized the release of records from Said's Swiss accounts to Swiss prosecutors, probing the use of Swiss banks to launder Al-Yamamah bribes, that the Saudi and British governments moved, in a panic, to shut down the entire BAE-Saudi probe by Britain's Serious Fraud Office. Then-Prime Minister Tony Blair, who signed off on the coverup, after renegotiating "Al-Yamamah II," argued, speciously, that a further exposé of Al-Yamamah would gravely damage British national security interests, and would jeopardize the Global War on Terrorism, by short-circuiting Anglo-Saudi "anti-terror" collaboration.

In fact, as both British and Saudi senior officials know, part of the Al-Yamamah investigation directly implicates some leading participants in the financing of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

... read the article...

Simpson continued, "The phenomenal amount of money generated from the sale of oil comes through DESO, before being paid to British Aerospace. Edwards admitted that the government does charge a little commission for administering the contract, money that attracted the attention of the Treasury as it built up a considerable surplus."

Then, the real story: "Al Yamamah would become a back-door method of covertly buying U.S. arms for the Kingdom; military hardware purchases that would not be visible to Congress.... Although Al Yamamah constitutes a highly unconventional way of doing business, its lucrative spin-offs are the by-product of a wholly political objective: a Saudi political objective and a British political objective. Al-Yamamah is, first and foremost, a political contract. Negotiated at the height of the Cold War, its unique structure has enabled the Saudis to purchase weapons from around the globe to fund the fight against Communism. Al Yamamah money can be found in the clandestine purchase of Russian ordnance used in the expulsion of Qadaffi's troops from Chad. It can also be traded to arms bought from Egypt and other countries, and sent to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan fighting the Soviet occupying forces."

As the Equatorial Guinea coup plot shows, well after the fall of the Soviet Union, Al Yamamah continued to exist. According to one senior U.S. intelligence official who has looked into the Anglo-Saudi scheme, "Al-Yamamah is the biggest covert intelligence program in recorded history. The amount of off-balance-sheet money is staggering."


 Bandar and 9/11 -

Sources close to the Department of Justice have emphasized that, under the FCPA, it is unlikely that Prince Bandar, the recipient of the BAE bribes, could be criminally prosecuted. However, were the Department of Justice to extend its probe to the issue of money laundering, it could shed important light on events surrounding the 9/11 attacks.

In the June 29, 2007 issue of EIR, this author reported:

"Between April 1998 and May 2002, some $51-73,000 in checks and cashier's checks were provided by the Saudi Ambassador to the United States and his wife to two families in southern California, who in turn bankrolled at least two of the 9/11 hijackers. The story was investigated by the 9/11 Commission, but never fully resolved, and remains, to this day, one of the key unanswered questions concerning the backing for the worst terrorist attack ever to occur on U.S. soil.

"According to numerous news accounts and the records of the 9/11 Commission, in April 1998, a Saudi national named Osama Basnan wrote to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, D.C., seeking help for his wife, Majeda Dweikat, who needed surgery for a thyroid condition. Prince Bandar bin-Sultan, the Saudi Ambassador, wrote a check for $15,000 to Basnan. Beginning in December 1999, Princess Haifa, the wife of Prince Bandar, began sending regular monthly cashier checks to Majeda Dweikat, in amounts ranging from $2,000 to $3,500. Many of these checks were signed over to Manal Bajadr, the wife of Omar al-Bayoumi, another Saudi living in the San Diego area.

"Around New Year's Day 2000, two other Saudi nationals, Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, arrived at Los Angeles International Airport, where they were greeted by al-Bayoumi, provided with cash, and outfitted with an apartment, Social Security ID cards, and other financial assistance. Al-Bayoumi helped the two Saudi men to enrolled in flight schools in Florida. Two months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, al-Bayoumi moved to England, and shortly after that, he disappeared altogether. But before his disappearance, and within days of the 9/11 attacks, agents of New Scotland Yard, working in conjunction with the FBI, raided his apartment in England and found papers hidden beneath the floorboards, according to Newsweek magazine, that had the phone numbers of several officials at the Saudi Embassy in Washington. Al-Bayoumi was suspected by the Arab community in the San Diego area of being an agent of Saudi intelligence, which kept tabs on Saudi residents in the area, particularly Saudi students attending college in southern California.

"Sources have told EIR researchers that Basnan was also long suspected of being an agent for Saudi Arabia's foreign intelligence service. According to the sources, Basnan was arrested for drug possession in southern California and the Saudi government intervened to get the charges dropped; Basnan also befriended Alhazmi and Almihdhar prior to their deaths on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon. At one point, the Basnans, the al-Bayoumis, and the two 9/11 hijackers all lived at the Parkwood Apartments in San Diego.

"Prince Bandar and Princess Haifa denied they played any role in financing the 9/11 hijackers, and claimed that they were merely providing charitable assistance to the Saudi community in the United States. The co-chairs of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time, Robert Graham (D-Fla.) and Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), accused the FBI of failing to fully pursue this '9/11 money trail.' Sources told EIR that the FBI refused to allow the committee to interview the FBI investigators who had probed the Basnan and al-Bayoumi links.

"While Congressional and law enforcement sources insist to EIR investigators that all available leads were pursued and no compelling evidence of Saudi involvement in 9/11 was established, other U.S. intelligence sources maintain that many fruitful areas of investigation simply reached dead-ends before any final conclusions could be drawn. And these sources report that some of the Al-Yamamah funds, including some funds that passed through the Riggs Bank accounts in Washington, financed a migration of Muslim Brotherhood members to the United States, throughout the 1980s and 1990s. That hardly constitutes a smoking gun, these sources emphasize, but raises serious unanswered questions, particularly in light of the fact that the official staff reports of the 9/11 Commission featured a detailed debriefing of Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, the purported mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, who admitted that he had been a member of the Muslim Brotherhood since he was 16 years old."

Since the publication of that EIR exclusive, new details have emerged, which beg for answers. The San Diego apartment where 9/11 hijackers Alhazmi and Almihdhar lived, was rented by an FBI informant, who received a reported $3,500 per month from the Bureau for keeping tabs on the local Muslim community, according to one U.S. intelligence source interviewed recently by EIR. The fact that two of the 9/11 hijackers lived under the same roof as an FBI snitch is still a source of great internal turmoil at the FBI, according to the source.

And this has also created a tremendous backlash against former FBI Director Louis Freeh, who is now the attorney for Prince Bandar, as the latter tries to clear his name of any wrongdoing in the Al-Yamamah and 9/11 affairs. Freeh, who was FBI Director at the time of the 9/11 attack, and resigned soon afterwards, appeared on the Frontline broadcast, to vociferously defend his client against any charges of wrongdoing. According to one source close to the BAE probe, Bandar hired Freeh to be his personal attorney, long before his name surfaced in the Al-Yamamah context. "What is certain," one Washington source with detailed knowledge of the 9/11 probe told EIR, "is that there are a whole lot of current and former FBI agents who are furious at Louis Freeh, for his efforts to whitewash Prince Bandar."

With a new Attorney General, Eric Holder, who has already moved to clean up some of the corruption within the Department of Justice, the story of Al-Yamamah, Prince Bandar and 9/11 is far from over.

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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2009, 01:52:54 pm »
former FBI Director Louis Freeh is now the attorney for Prince Bandar

PBS-TV's Frontline documentary series aired an hour-long exposé on April 7 of corporate bribery and corruption, headlined "Black Money." The centerpiece of the piece was the case of BAE Systems (formerly British Aerospace), the giant British arms cartel, and its unprecedented barter deal with Saudi Arabia, a deal known as Al-Yamamah ("The Dove").

 Bandar and 9/11 -

"Between April 1998 and May 2002, some $51-73,000 in checks and cashier's checks were provided by the Saudi Ambassador to the United States and his wife to two families in southern California, who in turn bankrolled at least two of the 9/11 hijackers. The story was investigated by the 9/11 Commission, but never fully resolved, and remains, to this day, one of the key unanswered questions concerning the backing for the worst terrorist attack ever to occur on U.S. soil.

Here is the POS Former Head of the FBI L. Freeh discussing with PBS how wonderfull his client is...

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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2009, 02:19:03 pm »
Well....I wasn't aware of Freeh and Bandars cozy relationship, but sure helps explain allot. No wonder John O'Neil left the FBI. No wonder the Saudis flew out of the country, with the help of the FBI. Freeh and Mueller.... two POS peas in a pod......pretty disgusting.

Here is the POS Freeh discussing with PBS how wonderfull his client is...

Sum-up thread in General Discussion (some nice photos and comments):

Former FBI Director Louis Freeh is now Prince Bandar's Lawyer

Bin Laden, who had earlier been stripped of his Saudi citizenship by Fahd's government, was incensed Saudi leaders opted to put their protection in the hands of "infidel" Western troops, spurning his offer to use the mujahedeen who had fought in Afghanistan to liberate Kuwait. He became even more determined in his opposition to the Saudi royal family - [That's a great spy legend!] .

Saudi's - BinLadinInc 9/11 hijackers
1. The Saudi's wanted Sadam out of the way (eliminate oil competition)
2. They wanted a reason to repress their population
3. Wanted to cooperate/partof with Anglo-American empire

Also on the Israeli side  - 9/11 Urban Moving Van - explosives - DEA 200+ Mossad Spy ring
1. The Israeli's wanted Sadam out of the way (he shot scud's at them)
2. They wanted a reason to repress the Palestinians
3. Wanted to cooperate/partof with Anglo-American empire


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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2009, 02:38:10 pm »

Saudi's - BinLadinInc 9/11 hijackers
1. The Saudi's wanted Sadam out of the way (eliminate oil competition)

They were no friend of Saddam, and Bandar wanted Saddam taken out in 1991.
The Saudis and Israelis also have something in common with Iran.
They both hate Iran as well. Iran-Persian-not Arab and Shiite--not Sunni. Saudi is Sunni and enemy of Shiite--neither Saudi Arabia or Israel care for Iran.

Former Head of the FBI Mr Freeh exposed...........

The Hijackers living with an FBI Informant who was working with Saudi Intelligence agents all assisting the hijackers, and being funded by Bandar.

And the FBI Agent who was the "handler" of this informant who's name is Steven Butler was doing what at the time?......

"Several members were "appalled" at what informed sources described as the "explosive" testimony of Special Agent Steven Butler, who recently retired from the FBI after his final posting in the bureau's San Diego field office."

"Government officials told U.S. News that Butler disclosed that he had been monitoring a flow of Saudi Arabian money that wound up in the hands of two of the 9/11 hijackers. The two men had rented a room from a man Butler had used as a confidential informant, the sources say. According to officials familiar with his account, Butler said that he had alerted his superiors about the money flows but the warning went nowhere. "Butler is claiming ... that people [in the FBI] didn't follow up," says a congressional source. Adds another: "He saw a pattern, a trail, and he told his supervisors, but it ended there."

In a conversation outside his home in the gated Rancho Penasquitos community in San Diego, Butler told U.S. News, "It's very sensitive stuff.'' Wearing a Buffalo Bills cap, Butler said, "I'd love to talk to you guys," but added that he couldn't without permission from the Justice Department.

That money flow was from Prince Bandar and his wife(sister of head of Saudi Intelligence)...

"Newsweek said, however, the FBI uncovered financial records showing payments to the family of al-Bayoumi from a Washington bank account held in the name of Princess Haifa Al-Faisal, wife of the Saudi ambassador to the United States and daughter of the late King Faisal.",2933,71273,00.html

Enjoy your money Mr Freeh........

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
-- Bob Dylan "Masters of War"

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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2009, 06:58:57 pm »
I was working on something related and it seem like this should be in this thread . That is the aftermath of the BAE scandal if there was one... So here is this merger of UDI with BAE. Who runs UDI? and who is Doug Coffey? UDI has a base in Pennslyvannia where Frank Carlucci is from.

I am working on a connection to the Caroline Coffey murder. Her father is Michael Coffey. I am trying find out if there is a relationship between Michael Coffey and Doug Coffey.....
Doug Coffey [NOW] is the Head of Communications, Land & Armaments, for BAE Systems, the Bradley IFV's manufacturer that TNR wouldn't name.

Carlucci's Pennsylvania contacts would eventually come in handy in business dealings as Chairman of Carlyle. He was Carlyle's point man in acquiring Harrisburg-based Harsco's defense division, which became United Defense. United Defense has supplied a stream of combat vehicles and support weapons to the US war in Iraq, although Carlyle has now sold off its shares in the defense company, partly to save itself from mounting criticism from investors, like the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association as well as the media.(Click here: HOW BUSH GOT BOUNCED FROM CARLYLE BOARD - Suzan Mazur, Progressive Review.)

At the time of Carlyle's acquisition, a key member of Harsco's Executive, Management Development and Corporate Governance committees was Andrew Sordoni III, Chairman of Sordoni Construction, one of the companies that rebuilt Wyoming Seminary after the flood. Andrew Sordoni is also a former Pennsylvania Secretary of Commerce. Andrew's brother, George Sordoni, is Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Wyoming Seminary. Carlucci also served on the Board of Trustees for a period of time and Frank Carlucci IV now serves on Seminary's President's Council.

It is a small world. And even though northeastern Pennsylvania blizzards are rare these days, tracks in the snow there still get covered up pretty quickly . . .

The "Sublime Prince" of Scranton - Frank Carlucci the First
UDI is "owned" by Frank C. Carlucci who "owns" the Carlyle Group...

Carlyle bought Arlington, Va.-based United Defense LP in October of 1997 for $850 million.

About the time the Carlyle Group bought United Defense, the United Defense LP Employees Political Action Committee registered with the Federal Election Commission. Since then, that committee has contributed more than $300,000 to several dozen legislators who have been key supporters of the Crusader and other Pentagon weapon systems that United Defense supplies.

Defense firms to merge - $4 billion deal joins British giant BAE, Bradley maker UDI

Tuesday, March 8, 2005
United Defense Industries Inc., the maker of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, has agreed to merge with British defense firm BAE Systems in a $4 billion deal, the two companies announced Monday.

Shares for UDI, which has more than 1,000 employees in the Bay Area, rose more than 25 percent to $73.35 after the merger plans were made public.

Under the cash agreement, BAE's North America subsidiary will pay $3.97 billion for the Arlington, Va., company. It will also assume a net debt of $218 million.

UDI Spokesman Doug Coffey said no layoffs are expected from the deal, which must still be approved by federal regulators and both companies' shareholders.

UDI employs about 8,000 people in 25 locations in the United States and Sweden. The company has about 900 employees in Santa Clara and 175 in San Francisco. "At this point, we don't see any impact," Coffey said. "We expect that the business out there will continue to work on projects."

UDI is best known as the maker of ground combat vehicles for the U.S. armed forces, including the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. The company's Santa Clara operation is focused mainly on research and development. It also operates a dry dock in San Francisco.

BAE, Great Britain's largest defense and aerospace company, designs and manufactures different military vehicles.

Analyst Patrick McCarthy of Friedman Billings Ramsey Group Inc. said he thinks the deal will benefit shareholders of both firms.

UDI and BAE had been competitors in the lucrative market for military weapons systems, which has grown as a result of the war on terror and the campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq.  UDI reported revenue of $2.3 billion in 2004, and is one of the nation's major defense contractors.

BAE, based in London, has more than 90,000 employees and has customers in about 130 countries, including the United States.
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Frank C. Carlucci
Co-Founder and Chairman of Advisory Board, Frontier Group

Director and Member of Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee
BAE Systems Land and Armaments

Chairman Emeritus The Carlyle Group
Chairman Carlyle International

and others....

See the relationships to Carlucci:

Hushang Ansary National Oilwell Varco, Incorporated Board Affiliations Stewart & Stevenson, LLC
Nina Ansary IRI International Corp. Board Affiliations Stewart & Stevenson, LLC
Philip Leder Schering-Plough Corp. Board Affiliations Pharmacia Corporation

Mark Auerbach Neuro-Hitech, Inc. Board Affiliations Collexis Holdings Inc.
George Friedman Cornell University Board Affiliations Pinion Software, Inc.
John Major Credit Suisse Group Board Affiliations The Carlyle Group
Oscar Fanjul Martín Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Board Affiliations The Carlyle Group
David E. McKinney Thomas J. Watson Foundation Board Affiliations International Executive Service Corps

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Re: BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2009, 08:16:52 pm »
So here is this merger of UDI with BAE. Who runs UDI? and who is Doug Coffey? UDI has a base in Pennslyvannia where Frank Carlucci is from.

Just to make this clearer the relationship of Carlyle - Carlucci and Rumsfeld and Cheney and Bush and Bin Laden Saudi's....

Carlyle buys UDI in 1997 and then, after 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq, after the biggest weapons sales have been made... sells it to who? BAE

See: Published on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 by  
Follow the Money: Bush, 9/11, and Deep Threat  
by Fran Shor

House of War: The Pentagon and the Disastrous Rise of American Power - Google Books Resultby James Carroll - 2007 - Political Science - 688 pages
Rumsfeld's two young deputies there were Richard Cheney and Frank Carlucci. Rumsfeld had left OEO to serve in the Nixon White House. ...

Carlucci was born in Scranton, Pennsylvania. He graduated from Wyoming Seminary in 1948 and Princeton University in 1952, where he roomed with Donald Rumsfeld, and attended Harvard Business School in 1954-55.
During the early 1970s Rumsfeld became Mr. Carlucci's protégé as Mr. Carlucci showed him the ropes. Carlucci was Undersecretary of Health, Education and Welfare when Caspar Weinberger was secretary during the Nixon administration

Carlucci served as chairman of the Carlyle Group from 1992-2003, and chairman emeritus until 2005. He also has business interests in the following companies: General Dynamics, Westinghouse, Ashland Oil, Neurogen, CB Commercial Real Estate, Nortel, BDM International, Quaker Oats, and Kaman. Carlucci is Chairman of Envion USA, and former director of Wackenhut. He is a senior member of the Frontier Group, a private equity investment firm founded by Sanford McDonnell and David Robb. Carlucci is an Advisory board member of G2 Satellite Solutions and the Chairman Emeritus of Nortel Networks

He is affiliated with the Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, a neo-conservative thinktank.[citation needed]He formerly sat on the Board of Directors of the Middle East Policy Council.[citation needed] He is Chairman Emeritus of the US-Taiwan Business Council.[citation needed]Carlucci is a member of the Board of Trustees of the RAND Corporation and founding co-chair of the Advisory Board for RAND's Center for Middle East Public Policy.[citation needed]
Carlyle Empire   by Eric Leser
 Le Monde   April 29, 2004

 Carlyle was created in 1987 in the salons of the New York eponymous palace, with five million dollars. Its founders, four lawyers, including David Rubenstein (a former Jimmy Carter advisor), had the -limited- ambition at the time of profiting from a flaw in fiscal legislation that authorized companies owned by Eskimos in Alaska to give their losses to profitable companies that would thus pay reduced taxes. The group vegetated until January 1989 and the arrival at its helm of the man who would invent the Carlyle system, Frank Carlucci. Former Assistant Director of the CIA, National Security Advisor, then Ronald Reagan's Defense Secretary, Mr. Carlucci counted in Washington. He is one of current Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's closest friends. They were roommates as students at Princeton together. Later, their paths crossed in several administrations and they even worked for a time at the same company, Sears Roebuck.
Frank Carlucci's name attracted capital to Carlyle. In October 1990, the group took over BDM International, which participated in the "Star Wars" Program and constituted a bridgehead to it
In 1997, Carlyle sold BDM and Vinnell, which had become too dangerous. The group didn't need it any more. It [Carlyle] had become the Pentagon's eleventh biggest supplier by gaining control of United Defense Industries that same year.

 Carlyle emerged from the shadows in spite of itself on September 11, 2001. That day, the group had organized a meeting at Washington's Ritz Carlton Hotel with five hundred of its largest investors. Frank Carlucci and James Baker III played masters of ceremony. George Bush senior made a lightning appearance at the beginning of the day. The presentation was quickly interrupted, but one detail escaped no one. One of the guests wore the name bin Laden on his badge. It was Shafiq bin Laden, one of Osama's many brothers. The American media discovered Carlyle. One journalist, Dan Briody, wrote a book about the group's hidden side, "The Iron Triangle", and takes an interest in the close relations between the Bush clan and the Saudi leadership.

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« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2009, 08:33:35 pm »
See: Published on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 by 
Follow the Money: Bush, 9/11, and Deep Threat 
by Fran Shor

Although in the aftermath of 9/11 the bin Laden 2 million dollar investment in Carlyle was withdrawn, prior to that time George W’s administration had put up road-blocks to the investigation of the bin Laden family. The lead investigator of Osama bin Laden’s involvement in terror actions against the US, from the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 to the African embassy bombings in 1998 to the assault on the U.S.S. Cole in 2000, was John O’Neill, a Deputy Director of the FBI. O’Neill had repeatedly been denied access to questioning the bin Laden family, including a January 2001 directive from the White House to desist from investigating two of Osama’s brothers who were residing in Falls Church, Virginia at the time. In the face of such continuing obstruction, O’Neill resigned in protest from the FBI claiming that the “main obstacles to investigating Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil interests and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it.” Ironically, O’Neill became the chief security person at the World Trade Center shortly before 9/11 where he, along with between 2-3,000 others, perished in the destruction of the WTC on that fateful and tragic day.

If 9/11 was a tragedy to thousands of Americans and their families, Bush and his father’s Carlyle cronies hit the jackpot, especially with renewed contracts for Carlyle defense investments. In particular, Carlyle had invested heavily in United Defense, the primary manufacturer of the Crusader artillery system. Although the Crusader faced a skeptical Congress before 9/11, Carlucci and his lobbyists certainly managed to line-up his old college buddy, Donald Rumsfeld, behind promoting the outmoded Crusader. When Carlyle went public with United Defense stock offerings in the fall of 2001, Carlucci, Bush, Baker, and other investors in Carlyle made out like bandits. However, when a possible paper trail and conflict-of-interest against Rumsfeld surfaced recently, he announced his opposition to Crusader. Of course, millions had already been made and Rumsfeld had to cover his own backside in light of the calls for the resignation of the Secretary of the Army, a former Enron executive already awash in dubious conflicts-of-interest.

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« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2009, 01:07:37 pm »
Also in 1997 large deposits of oil were discovered in Equatorial Guinea leading to a modern day Oil-Rush with Jonathan Bush and Riggs right in the middle of it. KBR/Halliburton and others were on the bit to begin devolopment in one of the world's greatest armpit of corruption in the world.

U.S. Oil Firms Entwined in Equatorial Guinea Deals
Riggs Probe Led to SEC Inquiry on Corruption, Profiteering

By Justin Blum
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 7, 2004;

Soon after arriving in Equatorial Guinea in 1991, the U.S. ambassador discovered an unusual arrangement involving the country's despotic president and the first successful oil company operating in the poor, West African nation.

Walter International Inc. was paying to send the president's son to study at Pepperdine University in Malibu, Calif., company employees told the ambassador, John E. Bennett. The staff of the Houston company told Bennett about the arrangement, grousing that the son was "spending at will," bringing the tab for a year in Southern California to at least $50,000, the former ambassador said.
After Walter became successful with its business -- and government relations -- some of the biggest names in oil rushed to drill off the shore of a country the size of Maryland. They expanded on the type of arrangement Walter had with President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasago, but on a much larger scale.

Their business activities provide a picture of how oil companies have operated in a developing country with a history of corruption. The companies paid for scholarships for children of the country's leaders, formed business ventures with government officials, hired companies linked to Obiang and rented property from government officials and their relatives, according to a U.S. Senate report released in July that reveals the companies' operations in striking detail. The report, which described the relationship between Riggs Bank of Washington and the oil firms operating in Equatorial Guinea, said the companies' actions raised "concerns related to corruption and profiteering."

A Securities and Exchange Commission investigation includes the three companies with the largest presence in the country -- Exxon Mobil Corp., Amerada Hess Corp. and Marathon Oil Corp. -- along with ChevronTexaco Corp., Devon Energy Corp. and CMS Energy Corp., the companies have said. The Senate report also cited activities of a private company, Vanco Energy Co.

Some of the companies' annual reports show their broadening investment in Equatorial Guinea. Since 1997, the amount of oil produced in Equatorial Guinea has increased seven times, to about 360,000 barrels a day. The country has emerged as the third-largest producer in sub-Saharan Africa and derives most of its revenue from oil.

Oil companies have a history of supplying cash and lavish gifts to leaders of countries whose oil reserves they want to exploit. Bribery of foreign officials was outlawed in 1977 under the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, after SEC investigations led more than 400 U.S. companies to admit that they had made questionable or illegal payments in other countries. The act outlaws payments to foreign officials for the purpose of obtaining or keeping business.
Officials at the Justice Department and SEC, both of which are responsible for enforcing the act, could not provide statistics on the number of oil companies that have been accused of violations. A Justice Department spokesman said no officials wanted to discuss enforcement of the act. Paul R. Berger, associate director of the SEC's enforcement division , cited several cases in recent years that his agency had brought against oil companies, but he added that violations can be hard to discover and prove.

Two subsidiaries of ABB Ltd. -- ABB Vetco Gray of Houston and ABB Vetco Gray UK of Scotland -- pleaded guilty in the United States in July to violating the corrupt practices act. Federal regulators said they made more than $1.1 million in illicit payments to Nigerian government officials to gain advantage on oil and gas projects.

Halliburton Co., a Houston oil field services company, said in SEC filings last month that federal regulators were investigating possible improper payments under the corrupt practices act involving a project in Nigeria in which the company had participated.

In Equatorial Guinea, a former Spanish colony, human rights activists said the oil companies' payments there have helped prop up Obiang, who has ruled since seizing power in a military coup in 1979. State department reports have for years cited the regime for human rights violations, including torture, beatings and abuse of prisoners and suspects, sometimes resulting in death.

A State Department report published this year concluded that most of the money generated by the oil companies' presence has not benefited average residents in the country of 500,000. Most of the country's oil wealth "appears to be concentrated in the hands of top government officials while the majority of the population remained poor," the report said.

Sarah Wykes, who has studied the situation in Equatorial Guinea for Global Witness of London, said oil companies ignored red flags about how their money was being spent.

"At the very least, there's an appearance of the complicity with corruption," said Wykes, whose group advocates the public disclosure of payments by oil companies to countries where they operate. "It's reinforcing the culture of corruption."

Equatorial Guinea's ambassador to Washington, Teodoro Biyogo Nsue, Obiang's brother-in-law, did not return repeated phone calls for this story. Embassy personnel said Obiang could not be reached for comment. A Washington firm that handles press issues for the country, C/R International LLC, was unable to arrange interviews for this story.

While oil revenue has filled government coffers, most of the citizens still survive on about $1 a day. Three of four residents suffer malnutrition, but only 1 percent of the budget was spent on health care between 1997 and 2002.

Obiang, his family and members of his government live lavishly. Obiang owns two houses in Potomac, valued at $1.3 million and $2.5 million, property records show. One of his sons, Teodoro Nguema Obiang, owns a $6.9 million house in Los Angeles.

The payments by the oil companies came to light as part of a Senate permanent subcommittee on investigations probe of Riggs, which handled Equatorial Guinea's accounts. The Los Angeles Times reported last year on concerns about diversion of oil proceeds to Equatorial Guinea's ruler and on the country's oil funds being held by Riggs.

Federal regulators are investigating the bank for long-standing violations of laws designed to prevent money laundering.

In the course of tracing money through Riggs accounts, Senate investigators found numerous questionable transactions involving oil companies.

The oil companies made payments of more than $4 million to support more than 100 students from Equatorial Guinea studying abroad, most of whom were relatives of wealthy or powerful officials, the report said.

The report said three companies -- Exxon Mobil, Hess and Marathon -- have made large payments to officials, their family members or businesses controlled by them.

A subsidiary of Exxon Mobil leased buildings and land from the president's wife, according to a letter from the company to the Senate subcommittee. The leases were later changed to name a company controlled by Obiang.

Hess paid officials of the country nearly $1 million for building leases. In one case, a lease was negotiated by Triton Energy, a company Hess acquired in 2001, and was continued by Hess; the two companies paid $445,800 to lease property from a 14-year-old relative of the president, who was represented by his mother, according to Senate investigators.

At one point, Hess stopped paying on the lease after a judge ruled that the property belonged to someone else. A government minister called Hess officials and asked why the payments had stopped. Hess informed the minister of the judge's order. The minister got the judge on the phone and he immediately rescinded the order, Hess told Senate investigators.

Two companies -- Hess and a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil -- paid a total of nearly $1 million for security services from a company owned by the president's brother, Armengol Ondo Nguema, who has been accused of human rights abuses in his job overseeing security forces. Through a subsidiary, Triton transferred $250,000 to a Riggs account to send Ondo's children to school, according to the Senate report.

In a report released in 1999, the State Department said that at Ondo's direction, security forces "urinated on prisoners, kicked them in the ribs, sliced their ears with knives, and smeared oil over their naked bodies in order to attract stinging ants."

Ondo owns a house in Arlington valued at $463,000, according to property records.

In several instances, oil companies formed joint ventures with high-ranking officials in the country, the companies have said. Exxon Mobil entered into a business venture with a construction and real estate company controlled by Obiang, resulting in dividend payments to the president totaling $31,500 over three years.

Senate staff members would not say whether they referred any possible violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act to the Justice Department for investigation, citing policy not to disclose such information.

The oil companies named in the Senate report declined to answer specific questions about operations in Equatorial Guinea or did not return phone calls.

"We take pride in the way we do business," said Jay R. Wilson, a spokesman for Hess. "We think we do business very ethically."

At a Senate hearing in July , Albert Marchetti, an official with Hess, said his company paid for scholarships for students from Equatorial Guinea but did not select which students received the awards. He said the company did not "have anything to do with where that money is spent and who it's spent on."

Also at the hearing, Steven Guidry, an official with Marathon, said that the company recognized the concerns about human rights abuses. "Our presence in the country, we think, goes a great distance toward improving conditions in Equatorial Guinea, and . . . we think we have a positive affect on the conditions that exist in Equatorial Guinea," Guidry said.

Andrew Swiger, an executive vice president at Exxon Mobil, said at the hearing that in Equatorial Guinea, there is "a small community of government officials and business owners."

"Virtually all government officials have some business interests of their own, or through a close relative," Swinger said. "In such countries, it is sometimes necessary to do business with a government official or a close relative of a government official. But it is still expected that we do business ethically and comply with all U.S. and local laws."

Former oil company executives said in interviews that government officials in developing countries would occasionally approach them seeking bribes or other unusual payments.

"Anything in West Africa you have to be careful," said Nicholas De'Ath, a former executive with Triton who worked in Equatorial Guinea in the late 1990s. "You have to have very clear standards, policies and procedures within your organization, and you have to make damn sure everybody follows it."

De'Ath said his company made no improper payments during the time he was in Equatorial Guinea. Company executives who were in charge at the time of the payments described in the Senate report did not return phone calls.

Because of concern that money paid by oil and other natural resource companies has been misappropriated by leaders of some countries, an international coalition of groups has been lobbying for the disclosure of fees the companies pay to do business. Billionaire financier George Soros, who is among those pushing the initiative, said in an interview that doing so would pressure the oil companies and make it "more difficult to engage in those practices."

But while some have agreed to voluntarily disclose the amount of payments, efforts to enact laws making reporting mandatory have not been successful. The Senate report said the corrupt practices act should be changed to require U.S. companies to disclose substantial payments to a country's officials, family members or businesses they control.

The payments from the oil companies to the government were facilitated by Riggs.

From 1995 until 2004, Riggs administered more than 60 accounts for the government of Equatorial Guinea, top officials and their family members. The aggregate deposits -- which ranged from $400 million to $700 million at a time -- collectively made the country the bank's biggest customer, prompting jubilation among Riggs officials.

"Where is this money coming from? Oil -- black gold -- Texas tea!" a Riggs executive vice president, Raymond M. Lund, gushed to colleagues in a 2001 e-mail.

But the Senate report concluded that in processing the oil money, Riggs "turned a blind eye to evidence suggesting the bank was handling the proceeds of foreign corruption." Riggs accepted oil companies' payments into a government account from which money could be withdrawn with the signature of Obiang and a second person: either his son, the country's minister of mines; or his nephew, the secretary of state for treasury and budget.

At one point, Riggs allowed more than $35 million from the government account to be wired into the accounts of two companies in countries with bank secrecy laws. Senate investigators think at least one of the companies is controlled partly or wholly by Obiang.

In May, the bank agreed to pay $25 million in civil penalties to settle charges by regulators that the bank was "willful" and "systemic" in its violation of anti-money laundering laws.

At the time Bennett served as U.S. ambassador to Equatorial Guinea -- 1991 to 1994 -- he said Walter was the only oil company with an office there, though other companies came to assess the country.

When Walter officials told Bennett of the scholarship money, he said he thought the practice "seemed an unusual way for a company to do business," but he was more focused on dealing with a government that was terrorizing the population using "intimidation, arbitrary arrests, widespread torture, total corruption of government services."

A former official of Walter, which was later purchased by another company, declined to comment, and its founder died. The company was not named in the Senate report.

Bennett said that when he raised concern about human rights abuses under Obiang, Walter officials grew uncomfortable. Bennett said the company was especially displeased after he went to Washington and delivered a detailed report on the Obiang regime's record of abuses.

Bennett said a Walter official "was really ticked off and just read me the riot act very forcefully." He said the official was "accusing me of making it difficult for his company to do business."

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« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2009, 02:44:58 am »
Yes, it is so depressing being a multi-millionaire in Malibu and knowing too many secrets ..... you could just die...
It is interesting that there is no mention of the CARLYLE Group here at all.... Humm...

Who, what, where, when, why - glaring ommissions from recent journalistic investigation into 9/11 Legacy & Connections.

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« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2009, 03:44:53 pm »
Well, still there is the Israeli spy ring - looks like Anglo-American Empire with Saudi-Israeli support
see: 9/11 Memorandum Commission Select Committees 2004 - Israeli Surveillance

I would also add that BinLaden Inc. does appear to be the CIA's/Saudi's man for "controlled opposition".

Now we have this new NewYorkTimes article  showing that suppressed documents do exist to show the Saudi connections to BinLaden Inc.

Also see below how the Justice Dept is supporting the Saudi Govt.
Was Obama's bowing to the Saudi king more then a gesture?

Documents Back Saudi Link to Extremists
Published: June 23, 2009

WASHINGTON — Documents gathered by lawyers for the families of Sept. 11 victims provide new evidence of extensive financial support for Al Qaeda and other extremist groups by members of the Saudi royal family, but the material may never find its way into court because of legal and diplomatic obstacles.

The case has put the Obama administration in the middle of a political and legal dispute, with the Justice Department siding with the Saudis in court last month in seeking to kill further legal action. Adding to the intrigue, classified American intelligence documents related to Saudi finances were leaked anonymously to lawyers for the families. The Justice Department had the lawyers’ copies destroyed and now wants to prevent a judge from even looking at the material.

The Saudis and their defenders in Washington have long denied links to terrorists, and they have mounted an aggressive and, so far, successful campaign to beat back the allegations in federal court based on a claim of sovereign immunity.

Allegations of Saudi links to terrorism have been the subject of years of government investigations and furious debate. Critics have said that some members of the Saudi ruling class pay off terrorist groups in part to keep them from being more active in their own country.

But the thousands of pages of previously undisclosed documents compiled by lawyers for the Sept. 11 families and their insurers represented an unusually detailed look at some of the evidence.

Internal Treasury Department documents obtained by the lawyers under the Freedom of Information Act, for instance, said that a prominent Saudi charity, the International Islamic Relief Organization, heavily supported by members of the Saudi royal family, showed “support for terrorist organizations” at least through 2006.

A self-described Qaeda operative in Bosnia said in an interview with lawyers in the lawsuit that another charity largely controlled by members of the royal family, the Saudi High Commission for Aid to Bosnia, provided money and supplies to the terrorist group in the 1990s and hired militant operatives like himself.

Another witness in Afghanistan said in a sworn statement that in 1998 he had witnessed an emissary for a leading Saudi prince, Turki al-Faisal, hand a check for one billion Saudi riyals (now worth about $267 million) to a top Taliban leader.

And a confidential German intelligence report gave a line-by-line description of tens of millions of dollars in bank transfers, with dates and dollar amounts, made in the early 1990s by Prince Salman bin Abdul Aziz and other members of the Saudi royal family to another charity that was suspected of financing militants’ activities in Pakistan and Bosnia.

The new documents, provided to The New York Times by the lawyers, are among several hundred thousand pages of investigative material obtained by the Sept. 11 families and their insurers as part of a long-running civil lawsuit seeking to hold Saudi Arabia and its royal family liable for financing Al Qaeda.

Only a fraction of the documents have been entered into the court record, and much of the new material is unknown even to the Saudi lawyers in the case.

The documents provide no smoking gun connecting the royal family to the events of Sept. 11, 2001. And the broader links rely at times on a circumstantial, connect-the-dots approach to tie together Saudi princes, Middle Eastern charities, suspicious transactions and terrorist groups.

Saudi lawyers and supporters say that the links are flimsy and exploit stereotypes about terrorism, and that the country is being sued because it has deep pockets and was home to 15 of the 19 hijackers.

“In looking at all the evidence the families brought together, I have not seen one iota of evidence that Saudi Arabia had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks,” Michael Kellogg, a Washington lawyer representing Prince Muhammad al-Faisal al-Saud in the lawsuit, said in an interview.

He and other defense lawyers said that rather than supporting Al Qaeda, the Saudis were sworn enemies of its leader, Osama bin Laden, who was exiled from Saudi Arabia, his native country, in 1996. “It’s an absolute tragedy what happened to them, and I understand their anger,” Mr. Kellogg said of the victims’ families. “They want to find those responsible, but I think they’ve been disserved by their lawyers by bringing claims without any merit against the wrong people.”

The Saudi Embassy in Washington declined to comment.

Two federal judges and the Second Circuit Court of Appeals have already ruled against the 7,630 people represented in the lawsuit, made up of survivors of the attacks and family members of those killed, throwing out the suit on the ground that the families cannot bring legal action in the United States against a sovereign nation and its leaders.

The Supreme Court is expected to decide this week whether to hear an appeal, but the families’ prospects dimmed last month when the Justice Department sided with the Saudis in their immunity claim and urged the court not to consider the appeal.

The Justice Department said a 1976 law on sovereign immunity protected the Saudis from liability and noted that “potentially significant foreign relations consequences” would arise if such suits were allowed to proceed.

“Cases like this put the U.S. government in an extremely difficult position when it has to make legal arguments, even when they are the better view of the law, that run counter to those of terrorist victims,” said John Bellinger, a former State Department lawyer who was involved in the Saudi litigation.

Senior Obama administration officials held a private meeting on Monday with 9/11 family members to speak about progress in cracking down on terrorist financing. Administration officials at the meeting largely sidestepped questions about the lawsuit, according to participants. But the official who helped lead the meeting, Stuart A. Levey, the under secretary for terrorism and financial intelligence, has been outspoken in his criticism of wealthy Saudis, saying they have helped to finance terrorism.

Even if the 9/11 families were to get their trial in the lawsuit, they might have difficulty getting some of their new material into evidence. Some would most likely be challenged on grounds it was irrelevant or uncorroborated hearsay, or that it related to Saudis who were clearly covered by sovereign immunity.

And if the families were to clear those hurdles, two intriguing pieces of evidence in the Saudi puzzle might still remain off limits.

One is a 28-page, classified section of the 2003 joint Congressional inquiry into the Sept. 11 attacks. The secret section is believed to discuss intelligence on Saudi financial links to two hijackers, and the Saudis themselves urged at the time that it be made public. President George W. Bush declined to do so.

Kristen Breitweiser, an advocate for Sept. 11 families, whose husband was killed in the World Trade Center, said in an interview that during a White House meeting in February between President Obama and victims’ families, the president told her that he was willing to make the pages public.

But she said she had not heard from the White House since then.

The other evidence that may not be admissible consists of classified documents leaked to one of the law firms representing the families, Motley Rice of South Carolina, which is headed by Ronald Motley, a well-known trial lawyer who won lucrative lawsuits involving asbestos and tobacco.

Lawyers for the firm say someone anonymously slipped them 55 documents that contained classified government material relating to the Saudi lawsuit.

Though she declined to describe the records, Jodi Flowers, a lawyer for Motley Rice, said she was pushing to have them placed in the court file.

“We wouldn’t be fighting this hard, and we wouldn’t have turned the material over to the judge, if we didn’t think it was really important to the case,” she said.

This was the lead up to this:
Justice Dept. Backs Saudi Royal Family on 9/11 Lawsuit

Published: May 29, 2009
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is supporting efforts by the Saudi royal family to defeat a long-running lawsuit seeking to hold it liable for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Justice Department, in a brief filed Friday before the Supreme Court, said it did not believe the Saudis could be sued in American court over accusations brought by families of the Sept. 11 victims that the royal family had helped finance Al Qaeda. The department said it saw no need for the court to review lower court rulings that found in the Saudis’ favor in throwing out the lawsuit.

The government’s position comes less than a week before President Obama is scheduled to meet in Saudi Arabia with King Abdullah as part of a trip to the Middle East and Europe intended to reach out to the Muslim world.

Lawyers for the Saudi family said that they were heartened by the department’s brief and that it served to strengthen their hand before the court, which has not decided whether to hear the case.

But family members of several Sept. 11 victims said they were deeply disappointed and questioned whether the decision was made to appease an important ally in the Middle East. The Saudis have aggressively lobbied both the Bush and Obama administrations to have the lawsuit dismissed, government officials say.

“I find this reprehensible,” said Kristen Breitweiser, a leader of the Sept. 11 families, whose husband was killed in the attacks on the World Trade Center. “One would have hoped that the Obama administration would have taken a different stance than the Bush administration, and you wonder what message this sends to victims of terrorism around the world.”

Bill Doyle, another leader of the Sept. 11 families whose son was killed in the attacks, said, “All we want is our day in court.”

The lawsuit, brought by a number of insurance companies for the victims and their families, accuses members of the royal family in Saudi Arabia of providing financial backing to Al Qaeda — either directly to Osama bin Laden and other terrorist leaders, or indirectly through donations to charitable organizations that they knew were in turn diverting money to Al Qaeda.

A district court threw out the lawsuit, finding that the Foreign Sovereign Immunity Act provided legal protection from liability for Saudi Arabia and the members of the royal family for their official acts.

Solicitor General Elena Kagan said in the brief to the Supreme Court that her office agreed with the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit “that the princes are immune from petitioners’ claims,” although she pointed to somewhat different legal rationales in reaching that conclusion.

Ms. Kagan noted that the Supreme Court had historically looked to the executive branch to take the lead on such international matters because of “the potentially significant foreign relations consequences of subjecting another sovereign state to suit.”

The government said in its brief that the victims’ families never alleged that the Saudi government or members of the royal family “personally committed” the acts of terrorism against the United States “or directed others to do so.” And it said the claims that were made — that the Saudis helped to finance the plots — fell “outside the scope” of the legal parameters for suing foreign governments or leaders.

Justice Department officials declined to address the issue of whether the timing of the brief was related to Mr. Obama’s trip to Riyadh, but other lawyers involved in the case said the timing appeared to be coincidental. They said as a practical matter the department, which was invited to state its views in the case in February, needed to do so by this week if it hoped to influence the court’s decision on whether to accept the case before it leaves for summer recess in June.

William H. Jeffress, a Washington lawyer who is representing Prince Turki Al-Faisal, a former Saudi ambassador to the United States who is one of the princes named in the lawsuit, said the Justice Department came down on the right side of the law in supporting immunity.

Any suggestion that the timing of the brief was influenced by Mr. Obama’s upcoming visit was “baseless,” Mr. Jeffress said, as were the accusations in the lawsuit itself about the Saudi ties to Al Qaeda. “Osama bin Laden is a sworn enemy of the royal family of Saudi Arabia, and the idea that they would be providing financial support to Bin Laden is a little absurd,” Mr. Jeffress said.

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BAE to pay 450 million in fines to settle bribes made in 1999 in 2010


Oh and as this thread has shown, BAE now OWNS a large portion of the U.S. arms business, which means that the profits and capital goes offshore back and to the TPTB i.e. The Queen.Rothschild etc..:

BAE to pay 450 million dollars in fraud fines
Defence giant BAE Systems said Friday it had agreed to pay fines of nearly 450 million dollars to settle charges brought by Britain's Serious Fraud Office and the US Department of Justice.

The fines -- 400 million dollars to the DoJ, and 30 million pounds (47 million dollars) to the SFO -- relate to investigations into BAE deals with countries including Tanzania, the Czech Republic, Romania and South Africa.

The defence firm admitted to making false statements to the US government about its compliance with anti-corruption regulations, and for failing to keep accurate accounts regarding a 1999 deal with Tanzania.

"The company very much regrets and accepts full responsibility for these past shortcomings," BAE Systems chairman Dick Olver said in a statement to the London Stock Exchange.

"These settlements enable the company to deal finally with significant legacy issues."

He said the firm had made significant changes to the way it operated and hoped that in future, "the company is as widely recognised for responsible conduct as it is for high quality products and advanced technologies".

Under the US deal, which still requires court approval, BAE has agreed to plead guilty to one charge of conspiring to make false statements to the US government concerning certain regulatory filings and undertakings.

The DoJ accused the firm of making hundreds of millions of dollars in payments to third parties, in the knowledge that the money would very likely be handed over to people to favour BAE in the awarding of defence contracts.

It claimed that before that, BAE had intentionally failed to put appropriate anti-bribery measures into place despite assurances to Washington that it would -- and afterwards, it had failed to inform US authorities about the payments.

"The company will pay a fine of 400 million dollars and make additional commitments concerning its ongoing compliance," BAE said.

Acting US deputy attorney general Gary G. Grindler confirmed the settlement, adding: "Any company conducting business with the United States that profits through false statements will be held accountable."

Under the British deal, BAE said it would plead guilty to one charge of breach of duty to keep accounting records concerning payments made to a former marketing advisor in Tanzania over the sale of a radar system in 1999.

BAE admitted the commission payments were not properly recorded, and it had failed to ensure its records were correct. It has agreed to pay 30 million pounds, of which some will be charitable payment for the benefit of Tanzania.

SFO Director Richard Alderman said he was "very pleased" with the settlement, and said it would bring an end to his office's investigations.

"The SFO has taken account of the implementation by BAE Systems of substantial ethical and compliance reforms... and has determined that no further prosecutions will be brought against BAE Systems in relation to the matters that have been under investigation by the SFO," it said.

British fraud investigators have been probing BAE's business activities for years, and the firm will hope Friday's deal will bring this to an end.

A decision by Britain's then prime minister Tony Blair in 2006 to drop a probe into BAE's arms deals with Saudi Arabia triggered a storm of controversy.

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Slowly it's becoming a moot point anyway, since now some seven or eight nations have developed longitudinal EM wave weapons, and more are developing them all the time.  If you really want to see some of the weird characteristics of longitudinal EM waves, there are some papers by Rodrigues and Lu on the Los Alamos National Laboratory website which discuss "undistorted progressive waves" (UPWs).  A UPW is an imperfect longitudinal wave, which still has some transverse wave residues.  Just download the summary paper by Rodrigues and Lu on that subject, and ponder the startling characteristics of such waves.

These days it seems that almost every major weapons laboratory in the developed countries of the world know of undistorted progressive waves and longitudinal EM waves, and many either have developed at least preliminary LW weapons or are working furiously on them.

Note: the ATSB Final Report on the TWA 800 crash conspicuously left the conclusive cause of the accident open.

   QF-4 Drone
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The supersonic QF-4 is a reusable full-scale target drone modified from the F-4 Phantom. The QF-4 provides a realistic full-scale target for air-to-air weapons system evaluation, development and testing at Tyndall Air Force Base, Fla., and Holloman AFB, N.M.

The QF-4 is a remotely controlled target, which simulates enemy aircraft maneuvers. The drone can be flown by remote control or with a safety pilot to monitor its performance. The drone is flown unmanned when missiles are fired at it, and only in specific over-water airspace authorized for unmanned flight. When flown unmanned, an explosive device is placed in the QF-4 to destroy the aircraft if it inadvertently becomes uncontrollable.

The QF-4 is equipped to carry electronic and infrared countermeasures to fully evaluate fighters and weapons flown and fired against it. Full-scale drone aircraft can be flown totally by computer using the Gulf Range Drone Control System, or controlled manually during takeoff and landing using a mobile control station located at the drone runway. As a safety precaution, a chase plane trails the drone during critical periods of flight.

First flown in May 1958, the Phantom II originally was developed for U.S. Navy fleet defense and entered service in 1961. The USAF evaluated it as the F-110A Spectre for close air support, interdiction and counter-air operations. In 1962, U.S. Air Force version was approved. The Air Force's Phantom II was designated F-4C, and first flew May 27, 1963. Production deliveries began in November 1963.

The F-4 was the primary fighter-bomber aircraft in the U.S. Air Force throughout the 1960s and 1970s.  F-4s also flew reconnaissance and "Wild Weasel" anti-aircraft missile suppression missions. Phantom II production ended in 1979.

The modified F-4 became the QF-4. It is the successor to the QF-106 in the Air Force drone inventory.

The drone fleet is operated and maintained by the 82d Aerial Targets Squadron, located at Tyndall AFB. The squadron is a subordinate unit of the 53rd Weapons Evaluation Group at Tyndall AFB. The 53rd WEG reports to the 53rd Wing at Eglin AFB, Fla. The QF-4 program attained initial operational capability in 1997.

General Characteristics
Primary function: Full-scale drone
QF-4 Modification Contractor: BAE Systems
F-4 Prime Contractor: McDonnell Aircraft Co.
Power plant: Two General Electric turbojet engines with afterburners
Wingspan: 38 feet, 15 inches (11.7 meters)
Length: 63 feet, 1(9.2 meters)
Height: 16 feet, 6 inches (5 meters)
Weight: 30,328 pounds (13,757 kilograms)
Maximum Launch Weight: 62,000 pounds (28,030 kilograms)
Speed: 1,600 mph (Mach 2)
Ceiling: 60,000 feet (18,182 meters)
Range: 1,300 miles
Cost: $2.6 million (drone conversion)
Initial operating capability: 1997
Inventory: Active force, 86

A potential difference is applied between two metallic electrodes mounted inside an evacuated glass tube. When the electrode connected to the negative terminal of the potential difference is irradiated with ultraviolet light, electrons are ejected from the electrode. These electrons are attracted to the other electrode, which is connected to the positive terminal of the potential difference. The electric current produced by electrons attracted to the positive electrode can be detected by an ammeter in the circuit. The following results are obtained:
1. The number of electrons ejected per second increases as the intensity of the light increases; it turns out to be directly proportional to the intensity of the light.

2. The electrons emerge with varying kinetic energy. However, the maximum energy of the electrons does not depend on the intensity.

3. No matter how feeble the intensity of the light, electrons are ejected essentially instantaneously.

4. If the frequency of the radiation falls below a minimum value, called the threshold frequency, there are no electrons ejected no matter how intense the radiation.

5. If the metallic surface is changed, then the threshold frequency changes.
The explanation of the photoelectric effect is due to Einstein. Einstein reasoned that the wave model applies primarily to the propagation of radiation. When electromagnetic radiation interacts with matter on a momentary basis, it might not be surprising that the wave model fails. Einstein proposed that the energy of the radiation is not distributed evenly over the entire wave front as assumed in Huygens’ principle, for example, but is concentrated or localized in discrete small regions. These discrete "bundles" of energy have come to be called photons, a name suggested by G. N. Lewis in 1926. According to Einstein (and earlier, Max Planck), the energy of a photon is E = h f, where h is Planck’s constant and f is the frequency of the radiation.

Clearly, electrons are bound in a metal; we do not see electrons "jumping" spontaneously from metal surfaces. Work must be done to free an electron from a metal. The deeper the electron is in the metal, the greater the work that has to be done to remove the electron. The minimum energy is for an electron at the surface of the metal. This minimum energy is termed the work function and is given the symbol f. Einstein assumed that when light strikes a metal, a single photon interacts with a single electron. The full energy of the photon is transferred to the electron. An electron which escapes from the metal has the full energy of the photon minus the work required to free the electron from the metal:

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Title :   Nascap-2k Simulation of a Low-Frequency Antenna in Low-Earth Orbit


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Abstract : NASCAP-2K can be used to calculate plasmadynamic effects as well as steady-state charging and current collection. In this paper we consider electron dynamics in the sheath of a VLF antenna. We estimate the sheath size, and show 1-D calculations for both sine wave and square wave excitation. The results show strong electrostatic plasma oscillations at the sheath edge. Then we use NASCAP-2K to approach the problem from 2 directions. Run as explicit Particle-in-Cell, NASCAP-2K can duplicate the square wave results through the first maximum in the plasma oscillation, obtaining excellent agreement with the 1-D results. Due to the computational demands of PIC, this approach can only simulate the early transients using a common PC. To learn more about the floating potential of the antenna, NASCAP-2K can be run as hybrid PlC to capture the ion dynamics over the full wave cycle.



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A half wave dipole for 100 KHz would have a length of about 1500 metres or a bit less than a mile.
That would be about the smallest efficient antenna you could use.

You can't use quarter wave antennas, because you can't make an earth connection.

So, some less efficient antenna could be considered. A length of wire as long as possible could be launched from the satellite and the results can just be accepted.

Something like the metal tape in tape measures could be used as an antenna. In a weightless environment, this would probably be strong enough. It could be wound out of the satellite by a motor, once it was in orbit.



The subradio frequency[2] is described in medical peer-reviewed journals with frequencies of 50 Hz[3] and 50–80 Hz.[4] United States Government agencies, such as NASA, describe ELF with ranges between the standard 3 to 30 Hz,[1] >0 to 300 Hz[2].[5] and even, according to WHO, from >0 to 100 kHz.[6] At frequencies this low (>0 to 300 Hz), "the wavelengths in air are very long (6000 km at 50 Hz and 5000 km at 60 Hz), and, in practical situations, the electric and magnetic fields act independently of one another and are measured separately."[5]
[edit] Military Communications

The United States Navy utlized extremely low frequencies (ELFs) as radio band and radio communications. The Submarine Integrated Antena System (SIAS) was a research and development effort to communicate with submerged submarines.[7] The Soviet/Russian Navy also utlized ELFs for submarine communications.[citation needed]
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Because of the electrical conductivity of seawater, submarines are shielded from most electromagnetic communications; signals in the ELF frequency range, however, can penetrate much deeper. Two factors limit the usefulness of ELF communications channels: the low data transmission rate of a few characters per minute and, to a lesser extent, the one-way nature due to the impracticality of installing a transmitter of the required size on a submarine (transmitters need to be of exceptional size for the users to achieve successful communication). Generally ELF signals were used to order a submarine to rise to a shallow depth where it could receive some other form of communication.
[edit] Difficulties of ELF communication

One of the difficulties posed when broadcasting in the ELF frequency range is antenna size. This is because the antenna must be at least a substantial fraction of the size (in at least one dimension) of the wavelength of the frequency of the EM waves. Simply put, a 1 Hz (cycle per second) signal would have a wavelength equal to the distance EM waves travel through your chosen medium in 1 second. For ELF, this is very slightly slower than the speed of light in a vacuum. As used in military applications, the wavelength is ~299,792 km(~187,370 mi) per second divided by 50–85 Hz, which equals around 3,450 to 5,996 km (2,140 to 3,730 mi) long; by comparison, Earth's diameter varies from 12,715 km (7,901 mi), pole to pole to 12,756 km (7,926 mi), equatorial. Because of this huge size requirement and, to transmit internationally using ELF frequencies, the earth itself must be used as an antenna, with extremely long leads going into the ground. Various other means are taken to construct radio stations with substantially smaller sizes, such as electrical lengthening.

The US maintained two sites, in the Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest, Wisconsin and the Escanaba River State Forest, Michigan (originally named Project Sanguine, then downsized and rechristened Project ELF prior to construction), until they were dismantled, beginning in late September 2004. Both sites used long power lines, so-called ground dipoles, as leads. These leads were in multiple strands ranging from 22.5 to 45 kilometres (14.0 to 28.0 mi) long. Because of the inefficiency of this method, considerable amounts of electrical power were required to operate the system.

Radio into water, why not the earth's crust?

Ionospheric penetration characteristics of ELF waves radiated from a current source in the lithosphere related to seismic activity
Ionospheric penetration characteristics of ELF waves radiated from a current source in the lithosphere related to seismic activity

M. Ozaki

Graduate School of Natural Science and Technology, Kanazawa University, Kanazawa, Japan

S. Yagitani

Graduate School of Natural Science and Technology, Kanazawa University, Kanazawa, Japan

I. Nagano

Kanazawa University, Kanazawa, Japan

K. Miyamura

PFU Ltd., Kahoku-shi, Japan

Electromagnetic wave radiation from an underground current source related to seismic activity is discussed. In order to estimate the ionospheric effects on the electromagnetic waves associated with the seismic activity, ELF waves in the frequency range from 10 Hz to 1 kHz in the ionosphere radiated from a possible seismic current source modeled as an electric dipole located in the lithosphere, are precisely computed by using a full-wave analysis. In this calculation, the ionosphere is assumed to be an inhomogeneous and anisotropic medium, and the Earth's crust is assumed to be a homogeneous and isotropic conductive medium. Especially, the effects of the geomagnetic field on the ionospheric wave propagation are precisely considered. The results of the calculations in the frequency range from 10 Hz to 1 kHz show frequency dependence in spatial distributions of the wave intensities due to the geomagnetic field-aligned whistler propagation in the ionosphere and the Earth-ionosphere waveguide propagation. Wave intensities which could be observed on the ground and in the ionosphere are determined by assuming the magnitude of the current moment of a seismic dipole source. In a possible situation, the current moment is estimated to be about 80 A·m/Hz1/2 which generates a detectable wave magnetic field on the ground just above a seismic source. However, if we try to detect it in the ionosphere, the source current moment must be thousands of times more intense.

Received 4 June 2008; accepted 1 December 2008; published 3 February 2009.

Citation: Ozaki, M., S. Yagitani, I. Nagano, and K. Miyamura (2009), Ionospheric penetration characteristics of ELF waves radiated from a current source in the lithosphere related to seismic activity, Radio Sci., 44, RS1005, doi:10.1029/2008RS003927.


The Lightning Bolt
There are several types of lightning strikes; cloud-to-cloud, cloud-to-air, and cloud-to-ground. By far the most dangerous is the cloud-to-ground (this is assuming that you are not in an airplane. Cloud-to-plane-to-ground lightning is common, because of the charge differentials caused by planes. These bolts scare the be..sus out of the paying customers, but only cause a moderate sweat for the crew, unless the navigation is knocked out).

Lightning is created when a separation of the positive and negative charges within a cloud becomes so great that the insulating power of air is exceeded and great amounts of electricity are then released.

Exactly how such a charge separation is created in a cloud is not entirely understood, but several necessary ingredients to the process have been identified. The main two are ice pellets and rising air. Both of these are found in cumulonimbus clouds, most common in the late-spring and summer. The ice pellets pick up net charges through collisions, and are sorted out by the updrafts, leaving an abundance of the larger negatively charged pellets at the bottom of the clouds and the smaller, positively charged ones near the cloud tops. As the negative charge grows, it begins to draw a positive charge on the surface of the earth under the cloud, since opposite charges attract. When the negative charge is great enough it leaves the cloud and heads towards the surface as the first stage of a lightning bolt.

This first surge of electrons is called a stepped leader. The leader moves towards the ground in a succession of 50m steps, creating a pathway of electrical flow. As the stepped leader nears the ground, a strong positive charge is induced beneath it. Eventually, the electrical attraction is so strong, that the positive charge rises up out of the ground or out from objects protruding from the ground (houses, people, especially people on roofs of houses fixing television antennae), in an attempt to meet the stepped leader.

They seem more than a little bit behind! Where did the Tesla school of electromagnetic theory go?

A few years ago, a friend mentioned that he had noticed a peculiar pattern of the earthquake frequency in Southern California. In all recent instances except the 1993 Northridge blockbuster, the space shuttle had been aloft at the time. (Conspiracy researcher and radio show host Dave "I Read It In A Book So It Must Be True" Emory has commented on this as well.) Even though it was meant as a joke, there are obvious implications for anyone who could control this final frontier of the natural world. Perhaps this has already been accomplished. In the last years of the 19th century, technological alchemist Nikola Tesla may have harnessed this principle to similar effect.
Tesla has been called everything from a genius to a quack. The fact remains that the alternating current electrical system now used worldwide was his conception, and among other inventions he perfected a remote controlled boat in 1897&emdash;only a few years after the discovery of radio waves. This device was publicly demonstrated at Madison Square Garden the next year to capacity crowds.
In 1896, Tesla had been in the United States for 11 years after emigrating from his native Croatia. After a disastrous fire in his former laboratory, he moved to more amenable quarters at 46 Houston St. in Manhattan. For the past few years, he had pondered the sigificance of waves and resonance, thinking that along with the AC system, there were other untapped sources of power waiting to be exploited. The oscillators he designed and built were originally designed to provide a stable source for the frequencies of alternating current&emdash;accurate enough to "set your watch by."
He constructed a simple device consisting of a piston suspended in a cylinder, which bypassed the necessity of a camshaft driven by a rotating power source, such as a gasoline or steam engine. In this way, he hoped to overcome loss of power through friction produced by the old system. This small device also enabled Tesla to try out his experiments in resonance. Every substance has a resonant frequency which is demonstrated by the principle of sympathetic vibration&endash;the most obvious example is the wine glass shattered by an opera singer (or a tape recording for you couch potatoes.) If this frequency is matched and amplified, any material may be literally shaken to pieces.
A vibrating assembly with an adjustable frequency was finally perfected, and by 1897, Tesla was causing trouble with it in and near the neighborhood around his loft laboratory. Reporter A.L. Besnson wrote about this device in late 1911 or early 1912 for the Hearst tabloid The World Today. After fastening the resonator ("no larger than an alarm clock") to a steel bar (or "link") two feet long and two inches thick:
He set the vibrator in "tune" with the link. For a long time nothing happened-&endash;vibrations of machine and link did not seem to coincide, but at last they did and the great steel began to tremble, increased its trembling until it dialated and contracted like a beating heart&endash;and finally broke. Sledge hammers could not have done it; crowbars could not have done it, but a fusillade of taps, no one of which would have harmed a baby, did it. Tesla was pleased.
But not pleased enough it seems:

He put his little vibrator in his coat-pocket and went out to hunt a half-erected steel building. Down in the Wall Street district, he found one&endash;ten stories of steel framework without a brick or a stone laid around it. He clamped the vibrator to one of the beams, and fussed with the adjustment until he got it.
Tesla said finally the structure began to creak and weave and the steel-workers came to the ground panic-stricken, believing that there had been an earthquake. Police were called out. Tesla put the vibrator in his pocket and went away. Ten minutes more and he could have laid the building in the street. And, with the same vibrator he could have dropped the Brooklyn Bridge into the East River in less than an hour.

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WASHINGTON -- The Office of Naval Research has awarded BAE Systems a $35.4 million contract to manufacture 132 high frequency (HF) transmitters for installation in the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program's (HAARP) phased array antenna system. The contract was finalized April 19 with BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems in Washington, D.C.
The HAARP program collects and assesses data to advance knowledge of the physical and electrical properties of the Earth's ionosphere. "We look forward to contributing to this critical program. This is an opportunity for BAE Systems to play an important role in expanding knowledge of the Earth's ionosphere. Significant potential applications include long-range communication, sensing and satellite vulnerability to nuclear effects," said Ramy Shanny, BAE Systems vice president and general manager for Advanced Technologies (AT).
In 1992, AT was awarded a contract to design and build the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), the HAARP program's primary tool used to study ionospheric physics. The IRI is currently composed of 48 antenna elements and has a power capacity of 960,000 watts. When installed, the additional 132 transmitters will give HAARP a 3.6 mega-watt capacity. The HAARP build-out is jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U. S. Navy and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
BAE Systems is an international company engaged in the development, delivery, and support of advanced defense and aerospace systems in the air, on land, at sea, and in space. The company designs, manufactures, and supports military aircraft, surface ships, submarines, radar, avionics, communications, electronics, and guided weapon systems. It is a pioneer in technology with a heritage stretching back hundreds of years. It is at the forefront of innovation, working to develop the next generation of intelligent defense systems.
BAE Systems has major operations across five continents and customers in some 130 countries. The company employs more than 90,000 people and generates annual sales of more than $20 billion through its wholly owned and joint-venture operations.
BAE Systems North America is a high-technology U.S. company employing more than 25,000 people who live and work in some 30 states, the District of Columbia, and the United Kingdom. The company is dedicated to solving its customers' needs with highly innovative and leading edge solutions across the defense electronics, systems, information technology, and services arenas.
BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems employs 5,700 people at 11 major facilities in eight states. The business unit is a major producer of aircraft self-protection systems and tactical surveillance and intelligence systems for all branches of the armed forces. Other major business areas include microwave, mission and space electronics; infrared imaging; and automated mission planning systems.
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I forgot to include the reason I became interested in BAE in the first place...  :o ::) :'(
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Atmosphere becomes a waveguide!!

Propagation of internal gravity waves in an atmospheric waveguide generated by turbulent eddies
Journal   Radiophysics and Quantum Electronics
Publisher   Springer New York
ISSN   0033-8443 (Print) 1573-9120 (Online)
Issue   Volume 31, Number 7 / July, 1988
DOI   10.1007/BF01038499
Pages   557-562
Subject Collection   Physics and Astronomy
SpringerLink Date   Sunday, January 23, 2005

Also look at this WTF book description!  :o Bermuda Triangle Much?

And please, is anyone here interested in the idea of a parallel space program i.e., and was that what Carl Sagan decided had happened and explained UFOs with this theory?

And is this site legit??


Spray Plane

"Boiling" Sky

"Black line" phenomena


Research shows the amount of Barium in our atmosphere exceeds by 8 times the level deemed safe for humans to breathe.  The toxicity of Barium is comparable to Arsenic.  EPA guidelines state that Barium is unsafe for humans at more than 5 ppm (parts per million). We're exposed to levels of airborne Barium that are far greater ("by a factor of 8") than the level considered safe.

Do you know

What is the greatest cause of environmental destruction?

Answer:  WAR

X-Wars: Wars which are conducted while pretending that conditions of peace are being maintained.

In 1970, former National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in  Between Two Ages, that:

"Technology will make available to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised.....techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm." 

Dystopian visionary quotes from Brzezinski's 1970 book:

"a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations"

Washington's New World Order Weapons Have the Ability to Trigger Climate Change

Cube sprayer

Cube sprayer Photos

Cube sprayer Article


Electrosmog Dangers
The HAARP patent calls for spraying barium in the atmosphere to enhance the effects of HAARP.<>

When chemtrails contain compounds for conducting or amplifying electromagnetic energy, we're exposed to an increased risk of harm from the intense radiation emitted by cell phone and microwave transmitter towers, radar installations at military bases, high-voltage power lines, high-power military relay towers and the myriad other well-documented sources of "electronic smog" - 15 million times more intense than natural background levels.

Germany warns citizens to avoid using Wi-Fi and warns of "electrosmog" from a wide range of other everyday products.

Facts About War and the Environment

War is the greatest cause of environmental destruction.

Many Nations, (including the U.S.) use environmental destruction as a weapon of war.

The military is the largest single source of environmental pollution in the United States.

 The cost of clean-up of military related sites is estimated to be upwards of $500 billion.

The Pentagon generates five times more toxins than the five major U.S. chemical companies combined.

 About one quarter of the world's jet fuel is consumed by the armed forces.

Bizarre Chemtrail Clouds

Great YouTube video shows fake aerosol-created clouds.
Many of these clouds display what I call "electromagnetic signatures" presumably caused by HAARP.  (I just noticed more of these here today in Minnesota 2/17/10.)

Barium: The Poison No One Talks About  Barium is just as dangerous as arsenic, mercury and lead and it shows up regularly in public water supplies.  Barium is a major component of chemtrails.  When it falls to earth it also contaminates our water supplies.

Exposure to small amounts of barium, dissolved in water, may cause a person to experience these problems:
1. Breathing difficulties
2. Increased blood pressure
3. Heart rhythm changes
4. Stomach irritation
5. Muscle weakness
6. Alterations in nerve reflexes
7. Damage to your brain, liver, kidney and heart

Barium Tests are Positive -- Clifford Carnicom

Our sky is a platform for advanced military technologies.

Global environmental warfare is real.
This means that earthquakes, droughts and floods can be used as weapons. The atmosphere over the USA, Canada, Australia, Japan and Europe is continually saturated with aerosols containing barium and other toxic substances utilized by the new geophysical arsenal.

Chemtrails = Aerosol spraying to change the atmosphere.
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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2010, 02:04:17 am »
Amazing how BAE seems to be a target of the cyber 9/11 false flag:

A long list of key facilities around the world that the US describes as vital to its national security has been released by Wikileaks.

The US State Department in February 2009 asked all US missions abroad to list all installations whose loss could critically affect US national security.
The list includes pipelines, communication and transport hubs.
Several UK sites are listed, including cable locations, satellite sites and BAE Systems plants.
This is probably the most controversial document yet from the Wikileaks organisation.
The definition of US national security revealed by the cable is broad and all embracing.

In addition to obvious pieces of strategic infrastructure like communications hubs, gas pipelines and so on, it contains, amongst other things, a cobalt mine in Congo, an anti-snake venom factory in Australia and an insulin plant in Denmark. The US missions were asked to list all installations whose loss could critically impact the public health, economic security or national security of the United States.  In Britain, for example, the list ranges from Cornwall to Scotland, including key satellite communications sites and the places where trans-Atlantic cables make landfall. A number of BAE Systems plants involved in joint weapons programmes with the Americans are listed, along with a marine engineering firm in Edinburgh which is said to be "critical" for nuclear powered submarines. 'Targets for terror'  The geographical range of the document is extraordinary.  If the US sees itself as waging a "global war on terror" then this represents a global directory of the key installations and facilities - many of them medical or industrial - that are seen as being of vital importance to Washington.  No wonder then that the Times newspaper in London has published the story under the headline "Wikileaks lists 'targets for terror' against the US".  Some locations are given unique billing. The Nadym gas pipeline junction in western Siberia, for example, is described as "the most critical gas facility in the world".
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« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2010, 10:59:51 pm »
Helluva thread...

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« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2010, 12:36:31 pm »
Helluva thread...

Thanks, It is amazing how this story (as shown by the recent posts) is still relavent.

It is probably the most important story next to 9/11 in the last twenty years. It shows how there is a HUGE off-shore slush fund of possibly trillions of dollars controlled by Anglo-American powers-that-be and those funds were used to produce the current massive economic bubble. And this slush fund is still out there ready to be used again.

People need to understand that these people get oil basically for free ($5-10/bll) and sell it to the public for $50 and up, they pay no taxes and the profits are offshored and off-book... and this has been on-going since the end of WWII.

When we combine that with the MIC Defence Industry and ITS growing slush fund ( Pentagon missing TRILLIONS of dollars) and that coincides with the RAND-Carlucci-Carlyle-UDI and the transfer of that power to BAE and its trillions of offshore slush fund and it's totally a dark unpublished story.

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« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2011, 01:12:07 pm »
Just amazing...

The FBI had photos of Mohammed Atta's car driving to visit a Saudi family that suddenly disappeared mysteriously just days before Atta executed the most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history and the bureau never told anyone about it

An address:  Atta visits  the home at 4224 Escondito Circle, Sarasota Fla.

see below:

ESAM GHAZZAWI and ABDULAZIZ  AL-HIJJI left and the house was owned by Esam Ghazzawi, a Saudi financier ...

The Esam Ghazzawi name goes back to the BCCI scandal!!!

The Mysterious Saudi Family That Vanished Two Weeks Before 9/11

Did you know that a Saudi family living in Sarasota, Fla., that met with 9/11 mastermind Mohammed Atta disappeared without a trace—leaving behind their cars, food, and furniture—two weeks before the attacks? Neither did Congress, or the 9/11 Commission! The FBI didn't think to tell them.

It's amazing what stuff starts coming out ten years later. You'd think that 9/11 was one of the most picked-over events in history, with thousands of journalists, intelligence agents, and investigators poring over every aspect of the attacks. Not really! Some recorded radio communications from that day are just coming to light now. And today we learn that a Saudi family that actually met with Atta up and disappeared without a trace just days before the attacks, something that the FBI investigated but never bothered to tell Congress or the 9/11 Commission. Writing for the Miami Herald, Anthony Summers and Dan Christensen report:

Just two weeks before the 9/11 hijackers slammed into the Pentagon and World Trade Center, members of a Saudi family abruptly vacated their luxury home near Sarasota, Fla., leaving a brand new car in the driveway, a refrigerator full of food, fruit on the counter - and an open safe in a master bedroom....

The couple, living with their small children at the three-bedroom house at 4224 Escondito Circle, had left in a hurry in a white van, probably on Aug. 30.

They abandoned three recently registered vehicles, including a brand-new Chrysler PT Cruiser, in the garage and driveway....

Berberich and a senior counterterrorism agent said they were able to get into the abandoned house, ultimately finding "there was mail on the table, dirty diapers in one of the bathrooms ... all the toiletries still in place ... all their clothes hanging in the closet ... TVs ... opulent furniture, equal or greater in value than the house ... the pool running, with toys in it."

"The beds were made ... fruit on the counter ... the refrigerator full of food. ... It was like they went grocery shopping. Like they went out to a movie. ... (But) the safe was open in the master bedroom, with nothing in it, not a paper clip. ... A computer was still there. A computer plug in another room, and the line still there. Looked like they'd taken (another) computer and left the cord."

Big deal, right? Who cares if some Saudi citizens happened to decide to go home, or move somewhere else, in late August 2001? Well, their neighbors found it suspicious, and one of them called the FBI on the day of the attacks to report the departure. And it turns out the couple, Anoud and Abdulazzi al-Hiijjii, had ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

A counterterrorism officer, who requested his name not be disclosed, said agents went on to make troubling discoveries: Phone records and the Prestancia gate records linked the house on Escondito Circle to the hijackers....

The counterterrorism agent said records of incoming and outgoing calls made at the Escondito house were obtained from the phone company under subpoena.

Agents were able to conduct a link analysis, a system of tracking calls based on dates, times and length of conversations—finding the Escondito calls dating back more than a year, "lined up with the known suspects."

The links were not just to Atta and his hijack pilots, the agent said, but to 11 other terrorist suspects, including Walid al-Shehhri, one of the men who flew with Atta on the first plane to strike the World Trade Center.

Another was Adnan Shukrijumah, a former Miramar, Fla., resident identified as having been with Atta in the spring of 2001. Shukrijumah is still at large and is on the FBI's Most Wanted list.

OK, you're saying, sure: A "link analysis" connects them to the hijackers. But the FBI can link Atta to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach if it wants to. So they called someone who called someone who called a hijacker. What does that prove?

But it was the gate records at the Prestancia development that produced the most telltale information. People who arrived by car had to give their names and the home's address they were visiting. Gate staff would sometimes ask to see a driver's license and note the name, Berberich said. More importantly, he added, the license plates of cars pulling through the gate were photographed.

Atta is known to have used variations of his name, but the license plate of the car he owned was on record.

The vehicle and name information on Atta and Jarrah fit that of drivers entering Prestancia on their way to visit the home at 4224 Escondito Circle, said Berberich and the counterterrorism officer.

So there you have it: The FBI had photos of Mohammed Atta's car driving to visit a Saudi family that suddenly disappeared mysteriously just days before Atta executed the most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history and the bureau never told anyone about it. Totally unrelated: The only major redaction in the 9/11 Commission report was a 28-page section spelling out connections between the hijackers and Saudi elites. I can't wait until the 20th anniversary, when we'll get to find out more. Happy 9/11 Day!

Saudi’s ESAM GHAZZAWI and ABDULAZIZ AL-HIJJI Link to Mohamed Atta and 9/11 Hijack Terrorists in Sarasota Fl From June 2000 to August 2001.

9/11 LINK TO SARASOTA FL: A new report revealing the hijackers met in Florida with a well-connected Saudi family, ESAM GHAZZAWI and ABDULAZIZ  AL-HIJJI, who fled to Riyadh just days before the attacks raises fresh concerns about the Saudis’ role in the plot.
The Saudi hijackers who entered the country from San Diego also met with Saudi handlers. So now we know al-Qaida had Saudi help from coast to coast. According to the Miami Herald, investigators believe the wealthy family at a minimum knew of their 9/11 HIJACKER guests’ evil plans, and possibly aided them.
Just two weeks before 9/11, and after meetings and calls with ringleader Mohamed Atta and other hijackers, the Saudi nationals, ESAM GHAZZAWI and ABDULAZIZ  AL-HIJJI, abandoned three cars, including a new Chrysler PT Cruiser, in the garage and driveway of their Sarasota home. In their haste to leave the country, they also left behind opulent furniture. A safe, however, was cleaned out. They also took a computer.
The Sarasota home at 4224 Escondito Cir, Sarasota, FL 34238, was owned by Esam Ghazzawi, a Saudi financier. He’d been on an FBI watch list for terror-fundraising. The FBI, however, never briefed the 9/11 Commission about his and the other Saudi occupants’ connections to the hijackers. Congress also was left in the dark about the house search.


Private Eye reports: "Prince Fahd bin Salman, eldest son of ... Prince Salman, the governor of Riyadh ... a court case brought by the BCCI liquidators over the little matter of $397,000 owed to the rogue bank. Since 1994 the liquidators had been seeking repayment of this money under a guarantee given by the prince for the overdraft of an offshore company, Colchest Corporation N.V.

In an unusual response, Prince Fahd sought to offset against this debt money held at another BCCI branch in the name of one Esam Ghazzawi, claiming that this was his money.

The court of appeal rejected this suggestion on the basis that it was unclear who owned what in the Ghazzawi accounts." This is an example of how Saudi princes get tangled up in their own financial web. They refuse to keep it simple. This leaves them open to unscrupulous advisors and lengthy, costly litagation. When will they learn! K99
Ghazzawi linked to BCCI and two dead Saudi Princes

Background checking since yesterday’s news account reveals evidence that Ghazzawi, who was on US government watch-lists along with his daughter and son-in-law, has a long history of association with Saudi financiers linked to terrorism and major global bank frauds in the 1980s and 1990s. He now lives openly in Jeddah and owns the posh Orient Restaurant in Khobar, KSA.
Prince Fahd’s death five weeks before Ghazzami suddenly fled his Sarasota home, barely 6 weeks before 9/11 might not in itself be more than coincidence. However, the unfolding story takes a particularly sinister turn when one realizes that Faud’s older brother, Prince Ahmed bin Salman died almost exactly a year later (November 17, 1958 – July 22, 2002), and his death has been labeled the first of a series of post-9/11 U.S. targeted killings of prominent figures identified as having had leading roles in the attacks.

In his 2003 book Why America Slept, author Gerald Posner writes that Prince Ahmed bin Salman had had ties to al-Qaeda and had advance knowledge of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. When 9/11 figure Abu Zubaydeh was captured, Posner claims that he revealed to American interrogators the identity of a number of top al-Qaeda backers, including Prince Ahmed, and the head of the Pakistani Air Force, who died with his family and closest aides in a February 2003 mid-air transport plane explosion.

To the timeline of events leading up to 9/11, including the 08/30/2001 flight of Ghazzawi and his family, we must now add the death five weeks earlier of Prince Faud and the death almost a year to the day of his older brother, Prince Ahmed. Their father is a co-director of the Saudi intelligence service along with Prince Turki bin Faisal, who suddenly resigned his 25 year commission as the Director of the Saudi General Intelligence agency and departed his long-time post in Washington suddenly on September 4, 2001. That is another important date that should put on anyone’s 9/11 timeline.

It is now past time for the redacted material in the 9/11 Report about Saudi al-Qaeda finance to be released, and the case reopened to examine new evidence.

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« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2012, 03:03:04 pm »
regarding Bush - Update now Obama gets a taste of the Saudi  Offshore accounts:

State Department cables previously leaked and those that have to be revealed show that U.S. diplomats are the prime facilitators of U.S. graft and corruption, with member companies of the US Chamber of Commerce and top Pentagon contractors reaping a financial whirlwind as a result.
Anonymous plans to release 40 more videos outlining the connections between U.S. political leaders and top-level bribery and kickbacks, including a deal worked out by then-President George W. Bush between Saudi Arabia and Boeing that saw Boeing receive a major Saudi Air Force contract in return for the King of Saudi Arabia receiving a plane similar to the Boeing 747 used as Air Force One.

In the deal, Bush pocketed a “handling fee” that ended up in a Bush numbered account from a Saudi numbered account in an off-shore bank.

And the trove of fused data from the cables and financial and email data show that Bush and Rove are not alone in receiving payola from his fronting for U.S. firms: the recipients of bribes and kickbacks include

Hillary and Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney, Vice President Joe Biden, and President Obama.

Anonymous has uncovered details of Obama personally lobbying overseas for Boeing, with the now “accepted” practice of kickbacks ending up in the president’s off-shore accounts.

Boeing is headquartered in Obama’s hometown of Chicago.

And when it comes to this level of corruption, America can always count on its political police force, the FBI, to protect the criminals and attack the sources of the information, as the G-men are now doing to Anonymous.
“Bigger and badder” than Wikileaks:

“Anonymous” analyzes and fuses hacked data and cable information and reveals that President Obama not only shills for Chicago-based Boeing but gets kickbacks from defense deals overseas. George W. Bush also shilled for Boeing and received similar sweetheart financial deals.

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« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2012, 04:31:47 pm »
Tahoe, this is a truly fantastic thread and i am amazed that i haven't stumbled across it before.

Right from the first post you struck deep into the likely true secret heart of this affair, that took me years to figure out.

Im looking forward to reading this thread in depth.
Yet another giant research topic to add to my already humungous "to read" list
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« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2012, 05:45:48 pm »
Tahoe, this is a truly fantastic thread and i am amazed that i haven't stumbled across it before.

Right from the first post you struck deep into the likely true secret heart of this affair, that took me years to figure out.

Im looking forward to reading this thread in depth. Yet another giant research topic to add to my already humungous "to read" list

Thanks, This was and still is a target rich environment. In the U.S. we had a virtual news black out on the Riggs Bank and how BAE bought into the American MIC (just prior to 9/11).  In conjunction you have the Duetche bank take over of Bankers trust  1997 connections to the Carlucci/Carlyle -  BAE UDI Merger - It's a tangle web not covered much in the press...

reference must read:

Derivatives as a method of counterfeiting and destruction of the currency 

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« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2012, 02:51:28 pm »
Two large defense contractors, BAE Systems plc and European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company N.V. (EADS), are currently negotiating a potential merger which would create by far the world’s largest aerospace and defense company, dwarfing even the behemoth American war profiteers like Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman and Boeing.

EADS and BAE Systems discuss merger to create world’s largest defense and security group

Two large defense contractors, BAE Systems plc and European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company N.V. (EADS), are currently negotiating a potential merger which would create by far the world’s largest aerospace and defense company, dwarfing even the behemoth American war profiteers like Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman and Boeing.

According to Defense Update, BAE Systems and EADS would actually operate under “a dual listed company structure” under which they would both be operating as one group while still being listed separately on exchanges.

The companies stated that certain defense activities could be ringfenced (financially separated) in accordance with agreements with governments, the United States of America in particular, due to their strategic and national security importance and due to “the importance of that market [the USA] to the enlarged group.”

Indeed, BAE works quite closely with the U.S. government, evidenced by their work on electromagnetic weaponry with the Office of Naval Research and former BAE Systems employees working with the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

“In response to BAE systems’ announcement that came after sudden share price movement in the London Stock Exchange, EADS confirmed it is in talks with BAE but cautioned that the matter is subject to the approval of the Board of EADS and there can be no certainty that these discussions will lead to a transaction,” Defense Update reports.

The announcement from BAE stated that they will hold 40% of the group’s shares while EADS will own 60% and the board and management structure will have “identical boards and executive committees at each of BAE Systems and EADS.”

If shareholders approve, BAE Systems and EADS might give the British, French and German governments special shares in the companies in order “to replace the existing UK government share in BAE Systems and the stakeholder concert party arrangements in EADS.”

The discussion of a merger between BAE and EADS isn’t all that surprising since they already work together closely evidenced by their shared ownership of Eurofighter GmbH, the company behind the Eurofighter Typhoon, and their joint ownership of the MBDA missile development and manufacturing company.
That being said, this potential merger is not in any way minor. If it happens, they would create the largest aerospace, defense and security group on Earth. They would have at their disposal major manufacturing centers in America, Britain, France, Germany and Spain.

By combining they would increase their business volume to twice that of even the largest of today’s defense contractors, namely, Lockheed Martin.

“BAE Systems and EADS operate highly secure and sensitive defense businesses in the USA, the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Saudi Arabia and Australia, amongst other countries. Discussions have therefore been initiated with a range of governments about the implications of the potential transaction,”Defense Update reports.

“BAE Systems and EADS believe that the potential combination of their two businesses offers the prospect of significant benefits for customers and shareholders of both companies,” the announcement from BAE said. “These benefits include cost savings, such as from procurement and sourcing efficiencies available to the enlarged group, and substantial new business opportunities.”

Of course the benefit they don’t mention is a near complete dominance of the entire defense industry and the ability to choke out the competition. Unfortunately, it seems that these corporations realize that there is a long future in the business of war profiteering and unless the people of the world step up and start demanding an end to the perpetual wars we’ll have to continue to witness the constant expansion of these megalithic corporations.
Boeing insists BAE-EADS merger is no 'fundamental threat'
By Richard Blackden, US business editor
2:51PM BST 13 Sep 2012

America's Boeing has insisted a merger of BAE and EADS does not "fundamentally" threaten it even though the combination will create the world's largest aerospace company.
If successful, the two companies will have combined sales of £60bn, employ 220,000 people worldwide, be the main supplier of Europe’s military efforts, build Britain’s nuclear submarines and own Airbus, the world’s biggest plane manufacturer.
Merkel to discuss EADS/BAE merger with Hollande on Saturday
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:55 a.m. CDT

BERLIN (Reuters) - German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Wednesday she will discuss the planned merger between Britain's BAE Systems and Airbus-owner EADS with French President Francois Hollande when they meet on Saturday.
"The various checks are being carried out on the BAE/EADS merger at the moment by all governments and it will certainly be discussed by us as well, but the experts are of course working together on it permanently," she told a news conference.
Merkel, defining her relationship with France's new Socialist leader as a "trusting" one, said they would "seek solutions that are good for all of Europe

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« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2012, 09:16:56 am »
David Mackenzie Mills (born 1944) is a British corporate lawyer who specialises in international work for Italian companies. He was accused of money-laundering and alleged tax fraud, involving Silvio Berlusconi, he was convicted in first instance and in appeal, but the conviction was quashed by the Supreme Court of Cassation. He has been married to the Labour Party politician Tessa Jowell since 1979.

According to The Independent, his father Kenneth Mills, was a senior spy. At the end of World War II, Kenneth Mills was running MI5's operations from Gibraltar. Later, he was transferred to Jamaica and—according to a family legend—personally foiled an attempted revolution in Cuba.

In 2003, it was revealed he was involved in an unsuccessful deal for Iranian airline Mahan Air to buy a fleet of BAe 146 aircraft from British Aerospace.

This individual may be involved in all this somehow, which would then mean it connects back to Berlusconi
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David Cameron under pressure from Tory rebels to veto £28bn defence merger amid job fears
7 Oct 2012 00:00

A total of 45 Tory rebels fired off a joint letter to the PM urging him to veto the merger

Thousands of jobs could be lost if Britain’s biggest defence firm merges with its European rival, MPs have warned.

David Cameron faced pressure last night from both Conservative and Labour backbenchers to block the proposed £28billion tie-up of BAE Systems with French and ­German- owned EADS.

A total of 45 Tory rebels fired off a joint letter to the PM urging him to veto the merger.

They wrote: “We are concerned at a proposal that will put the bulk of Britain’s defence industrial base in the hands of a company predominantly owned by the French and German governments.

“Without some vital safeguards we do not think this deal will be in the UK’s national nor ­manufacturing interest.”

Labour MPs warned the move could lead to jobs moving abroad and a threat to Britain’s vital defence interests with America.

Ex-Chancellor Alistair Darling said it was “totally unacceptable” that France and Germany could have a stake in the new firm, but not our taxpayers. Britain holds a golden share in BAE which means the PM must approve any merger with Paris and Berlin-based EADS, the owners of Airbus

Back to drawing board after Berlin halts BAE, EADS deal

By Matthias Blamont and Jason Neely

BERLIN/LONDON | Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:25pm EDT
(Reuters) - Europe's two biggest aerospace firms will go back to the drawing board to find new strategies after Germany stymied the world's biggest arms and aviation company merger.
Britain's BAE Systems, which earns nearly half its revenue selling arms to the Pentagon, could end up a takeover target after failing to seal its $45 billion deal with the Franco-German maker of Airbus civilian jets, EADS.

Politically, the deal's failure may hurt British Prime Minister David Cameron, who failed to persuade Germany's Angela Merkel to allow the merger and now faces uncertainty over the future of his country's most important engineering firm.
Britain and France both backed the planned merger, but Germany never warmed to it, despite the companies saying they were prepared to pledge to keep jobs there, allow Berlin to hold a big stake and meet other conditions.
But without the deal, BAE remains exposed to severe cuts in U.S. defence spending as troops finish their withdrawal from Afghanistan. Among its many U.S. contracts, the British firm is the largest supplier of armored vehicles for the U.S. military.