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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2009, 07:02:19 PM » |
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The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of limitations of governmental power, not the increase of it. - Woodrow Wilson Speech in New York, September 9, 1912
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Yeah, but his "predictions" are wrong most of the time. Old shaky-head Pat.  His prediction was right about the price of oil, but I think he's just a closet-listener of Lindsey Williams on the AJ show...I can see him hiding in a closet with a short-wave radio and then he comes out and says, "hey guys, I was, um, prayin', here in this closet here, and God told me that OIL is gonna go DOWN to $50 a barrel....yeah, I know, that guy just said it on the Alex Jones Show, but MY word is from DIRECTLY ON HIGH...."
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To understand just how aware Pat Robertson is of whose interests he truly serves, consider the following excerpt from a book he wrote nearly two decades ago (in 1991): ------------------------------------------"Obviously, if any private group could guarantee easy money to the economy, they would be in a position to loan money, build factories, buy stocks, and participate in growth opportunities. Conversely, if they could guarantee tight money, they could reduce loan exposure, short stocks, sell businesses, and then buy them back later at discounted prices at the bottom of what is called a recession or a depression. All things being equal, the control of money is the ability to bring prosperity or disaster on a nation. "Any nation that gives control of its money creation and regulation to any authority outside itself has effectively turned over control of its own future to that body.... "Because most average voters do not understand money, they will blame their economic woes on their political leaders and will, by the same token, credit their leaders for prosperity. Therefore, if any group has control of a nation's money, it has the power to create economic conditions that will bring success or ruin to elected officials. "As a former candidate for the presidential nomination of the Republican party, and later as a surrogate speaker for the successful candidate of the party, George Bush, I made my share of speeches extolling the low inflation rates of the Reagan administration which created 17 million new jobs. I also took my share of digs at the previous Democratic administration that 'gave this country inflation at 13.5 percent, a 21.5 percent prime rate, and a major recession.' The next line would usually be, 'Do you want Michael Dukakis to bring you once again the failed economic policy of Jimmy Carter?' Crowds would cheer Bush and Reagan and boo Carter, then vote for four more years of prosperity. "What a stump speech of this sort would not say, however, is the very simple fact that the United States monetary policy of 1979 and 1980 was out of Jimmy Carter's control. Carter got the blame, but it was Paul Volcker, the man who really controlled America's money, who gave us the 21.5 percent prime interest rate and the recession that beat Carter. It was Paul Volcker who produced the low rate of inflation that allowed Ronald Reagan to begin massive deficit spending, create jobs, spur a powerful stock market rally, and enjoy his own reelection in 1984 and the successful succession of his vice president to the Oval Office in 1988. "If the power to create money is taken away from those whom the nation has elected to guide its destiny -- the president and the Congress -- then the people will have lost their democratic control. Obviously a nonelected body, serving terms that do not coincide with the terms of the presidents who appoint them and whose actions are not controlled or audited by Congress, does great violence to the carefully crafted system of checks and balances that our founding fathers established in the Constitution." -- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, pp. 118-9 ------------------------------------------Robertson may be many things, but an unwitting dupe he is not. He knows exactly what he's part of. A Judas goat if ever there was one!
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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2009, 07:57:52 PM » |
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Cant stand the man
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I think you guys are missing the point. He has been right about lots of things that he said god told him will come to pass. He is in the know. And he has a different god. I wouldn't dismiss his predictions lightly.
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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2009, 08:07:31 PM » |
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I think you guys are missing the point. He has been right about lots of things that he said god told him will come to pass. He is in the know. And he has a different god. I wouldn't dismiss his predictions lightly.
Well, if I want to hear his "predictions", all I have to do is read the think tank documents. I'd rather hear it from the top rather than sucking my info from a bottom-feeding scum-sucker like Robertson. Odds are, they're probably telling Robertson what he wants to hear, while inserting various pieces of info so he's more manageable. And the guy's getting old and probably has alzheimer's, so he may not even know what he's talking about.
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« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2009, 09:35:11 PM » |
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Pat Robertson makes me wish the Christians were right just so I could see Jesus talk to Pat Robertson. Oh and Pat on Prophecy... 
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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2009, 09:39:08 PM » |
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Pat Robertson makes me wish the Christians were right just so I could see Jesus talk to Pat Robertson. Oh and Pat on Prophecy...  Some on here would agree with most of his quote ;Ds.
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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2009, 09:42:44 PM » |
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Some on here would agree with most of his quote ;Ds.
Oh the gay stuff? Yea, sad that some still fall into the us vs them trap the elites love to divvy us up with.
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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2009, 09:44:48 PM » |
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heavy i love your humor!
Hey thanks, I am great at parties. I always lead into the "wow, conspiracy theories are nuts"...then use the 'oh we are so ironic' type vibe to drop some real science on people. I get laughs and some people thinking. The key is to do it with a smile and make sure to give the one skeptic a "You and me? we know what is really going on" wink.
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national revival... conservative revolution?
Many evangelical Christians have bought the Big Lie that Pres. George Bush, Jr. (Skull & Bones, 1968), is a born-again Christian, and even a conservative who will lead America in a national revival of traditional values. This fiction has largely been believed by those who also hold fast to an illusion of endtime revival and are therefore hard at work reclaiming America for God. The patriotic theme is nothing new ~ a similar utopian motif was fabricated for the German masses and peddled to credulous Christians as well. The following excerpt from Richard Terrell's Resurrecting the Third Reich captures the patriotic devotion of Germans to their fatherland and the delusion that they were called to save the world. The patriotic fervor of the German people coupled with an irrational (mythological) perception of their origins and destiny was psychologically manipulated by Hitler to the point where a widespread flight from reason ensued:
"What was to take possession of the German consciousness was a militant romanticism... According to this way of thinking, the Divine Spirit is manifested in the spirit of a people, in their collective genius and total culture or Volkgeist... Germany developed a kind of communal mysticism which contained its own Teutonic concept of a chosen people, called to redeem civilization from its decadence...rallies were glorious pageants that stirred the emotions, which depended not on any revelation of Scripture, but on pure feeling... Even today, still photographs of these meetings have a powerful and gripping presence... The Volkish concept of the social organism was effectively symbolized in mass meetings that expressed a sense of eternity, awe, and mystery, effects stimulated by cathedral of light nighttime mass meetings in which antiaircraft lights sent brilliant shafts of illumination into the darkened sky.’ 19. Little wonder that, prior to 1933, many of Germany's Protestant clergymen were naively impressed with the patriotic/conservative platform of the National Socialist Party and recommended the Nazi programme to Christians as worthy of their support. The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer provides a sobering account of one prominent minister who failed to recognize early enough that Hitler used Christian terminology only as an artifice to enlist the Protestant leadership in his service. "The Reverend Martin Niemoller had personally welcomed the coming to power of the Nazis in 1933. In that year his autobiography, From U-Boat to Pulpit, had been published. The story of how this submarine commander in the First World War had become a prominent Protestant pastor was singled out for special praise in the Nazi press and became a best seller. To Pastor Niemoller, as to many a Protestant clergyman, the fourteen years of the Republic had been, as he said, 'years of darkness' and at the close of his autobiography he added a note of satisfaction that Nazi revolution had finally triumphed and that it had brought about the 'national revival' for which he himself had fought so long -- for a time in the free corps, from which so many Nazi leaders had come. "He was soon to experience a terrible disillusionment.. 20. Many of the historic revivals, which modern day false prophets compare to the present pseudo-revival are found to be, upon closer inspection, planned and orchestrated by human agents for political purposes. The fruit of the 1904-05 Welsh Revival is a case in point. One convert of the Welsh Revival was David Lloyd George, who later became the British Prime Minister of Great Britain. The administration of Lloyd George (1915-1919) was chiefly influenced by the Cecil Rhodes-Milner Round Table, whose objective was to reestablish the British Commonwealth of Nations and, ultimately, to bring the world under the hegemony of a restored British Empire. During Lloyd George's war administration, the Milner Group dominated the British delegation to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, at which venue they founded the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) and Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Here is one account of the revival in Wales. Do we recognize the familiar theme of city transformation? (typically minus specifics to verify the assertions)
"On January 11th The Times noted that David Lloyd-George, who later became the British Prime Minister, said the Welsh revival gave hope 'that at the next election Wales would declare with no uncertain sound against the corruption in high places which handed over the destiny of the people to the horrible brewing interest...'. "Lloyd-George even saw one of his political rallies taken over by the Welsh revival. He was impressed as a young girl prayed in the presence of 2,000 people. He said in one town the tavern sold only 9 cents worth of liquor drinks on Saturday night! "The Times observed that 'The whole population had been suddenly stirred by a common impulse. Religion had become the absorbing interest of their lives. They had gathered at crowded services for six and eight hours at a time. Political meetings and even football matches were postponed... quarrels between trade-union workmen and non-unionists had been made up...'" 21. Also among Evan Roberts' converts were George and Stephen Jeffrys who in 1915 founded the Elim Foursquare Gospel Alliance. The Jeffrys taught the British-Israel Replacement doctrine which maintains that the Anglo-Saxon nations are the lost tribes of Israel. To promote the current false revival as authentic, Richard Riss, leading PR agent for said false revival, quotes George Jeffrys' account of the Welsh Revival: "...during the Welsh revival (1904-1905), Evan Roberts, its primary leader, wrote, 'after many had prayed, I felt some living energy or force entering my bosom, restraining my breath, my legs trembling terribly; this living energy increased and increased as one after another prayed. Feeling strongly and deeply warmed, I burst forth in prayer.'" 22. The Elim Foursquare Gospel Alliance launched the ministry of Aimee Semple McPherson, who founded the Foursquare Gospel Churches in the United States. Mrs. McPherson's ministry was fundamentally unscriptural and her personal life was fraught with scandal -- moral failure, divorce, worldly extravagance and family strife. Sister Aimee committed suicide in 1945. According to some occult sources, which are usually behind the promotion of phony revivals, Aimee considered herself to be the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene, the wife of Jesus Christ in British Israel doctrine. Daniel Mark Epstein's biography, Sister Aimee: The Life of Aimee Semple McPherson, identifies the origins of the Foursquare Gospel Church and the Assemblies of God in the Elim Foursquare Gospel Alliance, which was the evil fruit of the false Welsh revival. Note the Foursquare symbols which in British-Israel doctrine represent the tribes of Judah, Ephraim, Reuben, and Dan.
"She called her religion the Foursquare Gospel, after a vision she had in Oakland in 1922. Aimee was preaching on the prophet Ezekiel's vision of Man, Lion, Ox and Eagle, when suddenly she began to shake with emotion. She saw in the mysterious symbols 'a complete Gospel for body, for soul, for spirit and eternity.' ... Those four cornerstones -- Regeneration, Baptism in the Spirit, Divine Healing, and the Second Coming -- upheld an evangelistic association called the Elim Foursquare Gospel Alliance, which George Jeffrys founded in Ireland in 1915. He and his brother Stephen were England's greatest evangelists after Wesley and Whitefield, and Aimee had worked with Jeffrys. The Elim Foursquare Gospel influenced the American Assemblies of God, which embraced the same four principles before Aimee had her vision in Oakland in 1922." 23. According to British-Israel literature, the Lion represents Great Britain and the Eagle (or Serpent) the United States. England is considered to be the tribe of Judah and the United States, the tribe of Dan, which will produce the Antichrist: "...ancient Israel traveled in four brigades of three tribes each (see the on-line tract, 'What Is The Gospel?' - listed under Bible Doctrines, and also the reference given there to Alfred Edersheim's 'History of the Old Testament.') Each of these brigades had a dominant tribe; these were: Judah, Ephraim, Reuben, and Dan. These four tribes provided four chief emblems: Lion, Ox or Unicorn, Man, and Eagle or Serpent. To quote briefly from W.H. Bennett, 'Of the twenty-two tribal emblems of ancient Israel, at least nineteen still are, or until very recently have been, emblems of one or another section of the Celto-Saxon people. We also noted that, of the four Brigade emblems, two, the lion and the Eagle, are the chief emblems of Britain and the United States; that another, the Man, is a prominent feature of the official Arms of Denmark, Iceland and Greece; and that the Ox is also common to the heraldry of several sections of the Celto-Saxons. So all four of Israel's Brigade emblems are in use among the Celto-Saxons today.;" (Symbols Of Our Celto-Saxon Heritage, page 89) 24. Nesta Webster's much maligned volume, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, informs the uninitiated that the Grand Lodge of England also displays these emblems which are the Masonic Coat-of-Arms and an important symbol used in the black art of Jewish Cabala: "...At any rate, the masonic coat-of-arms still used by Grand Lodge of England is undoubtedly of Jewish design.' 'This coat,' says Mr. Lucien Wolf, 'is entirely composed of Jewish symbols,' and is an attempt to display heraldically the various forms of the Cherubim pictured to us in the second vision of Ezekiel---an Ox, a Man, a Lion, and an Eagle---and thus belongs to the highest and most mystical domain of Hebrew symbolism.' 3. 'In other words, this vision, known to the Jews as the 'Mercaba,' 4. belongs to the Cabala, where particular interpretation is placed on each figure so as to provide an esoteric meaning not perceptible to the uninitiated. 5.The masonic coat-of-arms is thus entirely Cabalistic..." 25. Anton Chaitkin's compelling expose of the British Origins of Pentecostalism reveals that British Freemasons and their intelligence agents have been masquerading as patriots and revivalists, using political and religious movements to mobilize the masses toward cooperation with Great Britain's political aspirations. Christians who are snared by their false teaching will be held accountable by God for following false prophets, of which Jesus warned in Matthew 7:15: "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
The promotion of an endtime revival by false prophets like Richard Riss contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture concerning the period which will immediately precede the Second Coming of Christ. Christians who fall for the revival propaganda, national or otherwise, are working for a movement which is in direct violation of God's Word, and are in fact advancing the agenda of the Antichrist. Instead of a great revival, Jesus and his apostles warned that there would be unprecedented deception leading to an apostasy from the true faith.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2 Thessalonians 2:3 In the final analysis, Evangelical Christians have foolishly played the role of pawns in the dialectical process, which is the secret societies' method for moving huge portions of humanity their way, slowly but inexorably. By organizing mass movements based on ideologies in dynamic opposition to one another, a huge shift away from absolute truth occurs. The philosophers Nietzsche, Heidegger and Hegel made up the antithesis to the thesis of what was left of tradition in the mid-nineteenth century. By using all three as the background to World War II, the conspirators forged the synthesis, which was the "holocaust." After the war, they claimed that since God had been so cruel, man must find a new way to think of God. The answer was immanent humanism, or that man is god. Everything that matters in the way of their revolution has devolved from this gnostic premise, the antithesis of Christian doctrine. The Order of Skull and Bones, which is part of a global network of secret societies known as the Brotherhood of Death, was created as an American chapter of the Thule Society which trained Hitler in gnostic thought. Dope, Inc.: The Book That Drove Kissinger Crazy is the Executive Intelligence Review's (LaRouche) expose of the Anglo-American oligarchy's drug smuggling syndicate since the days of the Opium Wars, in which covert operations George H.W. Bush was the kingpin. The authors identify the struggle for ideology of the gnostic Thule Society against the Judeo-Christian tradition:
"Adolf Hitler's Nazi Party is the paramount case in the West of a Gnostic movement come to power. Hitler's world conception was specifically Gnostic. As a child, Hitler attended the Lambach Abbey School in Lambach-am-Tram in upper Austria. Since at least 20 years before Hitler's birth, Lambach had been a center of Gnostic practice. Its abbot, Father Theodore Hagen, was adept in astrology and in the fundamentals of the Gnostic heresy, with particular affinity for thirteenth-century Catharism and Islamic Sufism. This Benedictine monk caused a swastika to be engraved over the entrance to the abbey school. "When Hitler went to the abbey in 1899, there was also a young Cistercian monk, Adolf Joseph Lanz, who was later to lead Hitler through the racialist cult networks of Vienna. In 1900, Lanz threw aside his habit, went to Vienna and founded the Order of the New Temple, inspired by the Knights Templar. In 1905, using the name of Georg Lanz von Liebenfels, he began to publish the racist cult journal Ostara, dedicated to propagandizing in favor of the war between the 'Sons of Light' and the 'Sons of Darkness'; that is, the war between the blond, blue-eyed Aryan and the dark, scheming Jew. "In Munich, Hitler was routed into Gnostic circles revolving around the Thule Society, named after the mythical 'Ultima Thule' homeland of the Aryans in the north, and made up of south German, Swiss, and British oligarchs dedicated to creating a mass-based party to indoctrinate defeated Germany with Gnostic ideas. Hitler became its chosen spokesman. "Hitler's mission was to destroy Christianity and Judaism in favor of the ancient pagan religion. When the war was lost, Germany being invaded on every front, catastrophe looming, Hitler's lieutenants clustered around him to know what the Fiihrer would do. Hitler told them that, whatever the outcome of the war, the greater war had been won. One hundred years after his death, he predicted, Christianity would no longer exist as a significant force in the world. That was victory, he said, To destroy Christianity, Hitler reasoned, one must first destroy its 'agent,' the 'bacillus the Jew'; that nation of priests,' as Nietzsche had angrily called them. The Holocaust was planned to do just that." 26. The synthesis has already occurred in the great mass of people. One Freemason correctly observed that there are very few who are "immune to the dialectic." This assertion would not have been made if the dialectic and its method of synthesis were not "the secret" of the occult societies. Also, the dialectic is evolutionary. The conservative revolution today, some new movement tomorrow. Thus, the dialectic itself represented a huge shift away from absolute truth. They mean to take the masses through revolutions fomented out of the dialectical operation toward a synthesis of all points of view, the third way politics of the radical center, to a society based on natural law, man's determination of morality in place of God's. Marilyn Ferguson's Aquarian Conspiracy describes precisely the nature of revolution which the conspirators planned for and has come to pass before our very eyes ~ abandonment of the moral values which inspired the revolution: "Most historical movements have their last will and testament along with their manifesto. They have known more surely what they oppose than what they are. By taking a firm position, they trigger on inevitable countermotion, one that will disorient their fragile identity almost at once. Then rapid metamorphosis and self-betrayal: pacifists who become violent, law-and-order advocates who trample law and order, patriots who undo liberties, 'people’s revolutions' that empower new elites, new movements in the arts that become as rigid as their predecessors, romantic ideals that lead to genocide." 27. Law-and-order advocates who trample law and order? patriots who undo liberties? romantic ideals that lead to genocide"? Like Rev. Neimoller and the German Protestants, we fear that American Evangelicals will live to rue the day they called for a political revolution: "By the beginning of 1934, the disillusioned Pastor Niemoller had become the guiding spirit of the minority resistance in both the 'Confessional Church' and the Pastors' Emergency League...On the first of July, 1937, Dr. Niemoller was arrested and confined to Moabit prison in Berlin. On June 27 he had preached to the congregation, which always overflowed his church at Dahlem, what was to be his last sermon in the Third Reich. As if he had a foreboding of what was to come he said, 'We have no more thought of using our own powers to escape the arm of the authorities than had the Apostles of old. No more are we ready to keep silent at man's behest when God commands us to speak. For it is, and must remain, the case that we must obey God rather than man.' "After eight months in prison he was tried on March 2, 1938, before a Sondergericht, one of the 'Special Courts' set up by the Nazis to try offenders against the State, and though acquitted of the main charge of 'underhand attacks against the State' was fined two thousand marks and sentenced to seven months' imprisonment for 'abuse of the pulpit' and holding collections in his church. Since he had served more than this time, the court ordered his release, but he was seized by the Gestapo as he was leaving the courtroom, placed in 'protective custody' and confined in concentration camps, first at Sacchsenhausen and then at Dauchau, where he remained for seven years until liberated by Allied troops." 28.
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« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2009, 08:59:43 AM » |
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« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2009, 09:07:32 AM » |
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Clearly a false prophet. No one should listen to him.
Oh, but they will. Trust me. The baby-boomers who stuck by both Bush's in the white house, and who are the mainline religious conservatives (got a BUNCH of 'em here, very self-righteous people) are going to suckle the kool-aid out of the tit of the judas goat, and love it dearly.
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« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2009, 09:09:03 AM » |
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Oh, but they will. Trust me. The baby-boomers who stuck by both Bush's in the white house, and who are the mainline religious conservatives (got a BUNCH of 'em here, very self-righteous people) are going to suckle the kool-aid out of the tit of the judas goat, and love it dearly.
Then they deserve what they get if they cannot discern the truth. A true prophet is never wrong.
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« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2009, 09:12:05 AM » |
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Is there some website that summaries the Heretic Pat Robertson ?
I dont want to read too much about him, I dont even live in America anymore. I just want the executive summary.
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Is there some website that summaries the Heretic Pat Robertson ?
I dont want to read too much about him, I dont even live in America anymore. I just want the executive summary.
Pat Robertson of The 700 Club fame has once again prophesied wrongly! This time in an interview on CNN, Mr. Robertson reversed himself on a prophecy given in January of 2004. In that prophecy Mr. Robertson declared the Mr. Bush would win re-election "in a walk" and added, " I really believe I'm hearing from the Lord its going to be a blowout." But yesterday he admitted that this prophecy was not the Lord speaking but his own thoughts. Mr. Robertson stated in the interview, "I thought it was gong to be a blowout, but I think its razor thin."
As previously reported by Moriel, Mr. Robertson has prophesied falsely before. In July of 1977, Mr. Robertson claims that God gave him a mission, not to be a religious leader but to be an educator who would influence the center of our culture -"from God's perspective" He has also claimed that God chose him "to usher in the coming of My Son." In 1982 and again in 1984, Mr. Robertson predicted the Tribulation would take place in those years.
Discussing his meeting with the Pope, he called John Paul II, "very warm" and "a humble and caring servant of the Lord" Also, in a hand-delivered letter Mr. Robertson said, "I believe the time has come where he must lay aside minor differences and focus on the common ground of our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ." Later Mr. Robertson was quoted in the New York Times in November of 1995, saying, "We all admire the Holy Father tremendously. We all want to build bridges with the Catholic Church." Also, in Robertson's book "The Turning Tide"(page 279) he states "Pope John Paul II stands like a rock against all opposition in his clear enunciation of the foundational principles of the Christian faith."
By God's definition of a false prophet in Deuteronomy 13 and 18, Mr. Robertson fits the mold. It is no wonder when God's Word states in 2 John that when one even greets false teachers they risk losing what they accomplished, we see the state the church is in today. We see some of those in the world recognizing this biblical fact that Mr. Robertson is losing popularity and influence when Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush, Karl Rowe distances himself from him both politically and theologically. But this action has brought even worse ecumenicalists like Ted Haggard to the forefront. The church is losing the battle, thus friends, family and neighbors to eternity, but Jesus will win the war. Mr. Robertson has much to answer for in his assault on the faith and his deception of the saints. I pray it isn't too late for other saints, elders and pastors to repent of participating in Mr. Robertson's writings, work, leadership, and deception and thus lose what they have accomplished. http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/church_issues/pat_robertson_false_prophet_again.htm
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« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2009, 09:29:14 AM » |
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Oh, but they will. Trust me. The baby-boomers who stuck by both Bush's in the white house, and who are the mainline religious conservatives (got a BUNCH of 'em here, very self-righteous people) are going to suckle the kool-aid out of the tit of the judas goat, and love it dearly.
I don't know how many here follow Robertson, but I don't think there is that many. The guy is just full of it!!
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« Reply #62 on: January 05, 2009, 09:35:15 AM » |
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Seeing as this relates to God, prophecy etc... If people haven't already done so, please register your choice in my poll here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=78007.0
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« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2009, 09:41:50 AM » |
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Oh, but they will. Trust me. The baby-boomers who stuck by both Bush's in the white house, and who are the mainline religious conservatives (got a BUNCH of 'em here, very self-righteous people) are going to suckle the kool-aid out of the tit of the judas goat, and love it dearly. Ewww. 
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« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2009, 09:56:44 AM » |
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Thanks for all the info folks . . . . For those of you who want to find out what there religon really belives check this out[urlhttp://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=76718]Mystery Babylon - 42 lectures by Bill Cooper[/url] http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=76718
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« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2009, 11:36:52 AM » |
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2+2=5
Slavery=freedom
War=peace
Oh, almost forgot. Pat Robertson is one of those Food Nazis who blames the obesity epidemic SQUARELY on the sheeple who make bad diet choices and actually gives a free pass to the food companies who DELIBERATELY put Monsanto-created ingredients - aspartame and MSG - in their foods, KNOWING that the ingredients are the root cause of obesity. Big Food which is funded by Rockefeller interests creates the obesity epidemic with aspartame and MSG, and then the Food Nannies who are ALSO funded by Rockefeller interests blame the PEOPLE - not Big Food - for the obesity epidemic. See, that's why New York is passing the fat tax. It isn't about combating obesity. It's about shifting the blame away from Big Food and onto the people.Wouldn't surprise me if Robertson was descended from the Rockefellers.
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"Pro is the opposite of con. That can be plainly seen. If progress means to move forward, then what does Congress mean?" - Nipsey Russell
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« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2009, 11:49:09 AM » |
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That guy is creeepy, he growls at the end of his sentences. And how come certain people can claim they have a direct connection with GOD, but if I said GOD told me, whatever, no one believes me?
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« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2009, 12:59:34 PM » |
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That's strange .. he told me they wouldn't.
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« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2009, 01:15:10 PM » |
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It's scary that people follow and believe this hack.
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« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2009, 03:31:17 PM » |
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And the Right of the false paradigm has their 'War on..." which achieves the same results as the Left's programs of 'social services'. It all ties into the original divider, race and religion, each aforementioned suited for its particular groupings. I have noticed as the time goes by that each side of the left/right gets its 'platform' more and more nebulously defined. In fact, they are beginning to merge. I would expect to hear more about "centrist" as Obama brings the elites plan home to roost.
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We work jobs we hate to pay for stuff we don't need to impress people we don't like. Am I the crazy one here?
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« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2009, 09:30:56 PM » |
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And the Right of the false paradigm has their 'War on..." which achieves the same results as the Left's programs of 'social services'. It all ties into the original divider, race and religion, each aforementioned suited for its particular groupings. And none of which matters. All of that stuff keeps our attention far away from what really matters. I hope I got your meaning because I liked it. I have noticed as the time goes by that each side of the left/right gets its 'platform' more and more nebulously defined. In fact, they are beginning to merge. I would expect to hear more about "centrist" as Obama brings the elites plan home to roost.
I think you can safely put socialism, communism, totalitarianism and fascism all under the same umbrealla. There all run by state-loving control freaks who are as brainwashed as the masses.
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« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2009, 09:34:27 AM » |
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I don't know how many here follow Robertson, but I don't think there is that many. The guy is just full of it!!
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« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2009, 09:38:38 AM » |
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I wonder how many pieces of silver the NWO is giving him?, whatever the amount it will not comfort him where he is headed.
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« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2009, 09:49:11 AM » |
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Oh the gay stuff? Yea, sad that some still fall into the us vs them trap the elites love to divvy us up with.
Thats why the NWO promotes queers, and their government worshiping agenda.
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« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2009, 09:57:06 AM » |
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« Reply #75 on: March 23, 2009, 10:02:02 AM » |
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thing is that debating things in that room setback most things elsewhere, i will never go back in there again.
The fundies are chasing everyone out of there, AMD. Intelligent conversation can be left outside the threads, but aren't really ever allowed in them.
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But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.
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« Reply #76 on: March 23, 2009, 10:06:44 AM » |
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« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2009, 10:20:35 AM » |
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This is insanity. How can I be living in this world?
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Dismissing the New World Order is like taking one piece of a 1000-piece jigsaw puzzle and saying, "Look, that's not a whole jigsaw puzzle!" People are not stupid. They have legitimate questions. Read my guide on how to wake people
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« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2009, 10:37:55 AM » |
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WHY IS IT that when I say God talked to me, no one believes me. But anyone who is on a pedestal, including my Family says God talked to them, it's believed?
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« Reply #79 on: March 23, 2009, 10:45:58 AM » |
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The sad part is that when it comes to people accepting socialism in lieu of increased economic suffering, Pat is 100% correct. The part where Pat is lying where he says he heard it from God. He heard it from his CFR/NWO buddies. He just uses "God" as a means to sell the snake oil to his hypnotized fan base.
Most of us here know that the plan is - and always has been - to integrate economic control with the control of government in a "top down" manner. The problem has been "how do we sell that tpo the people in a manner that they'll believe it's good?"
The orchestrated financial collapse is the answer to that question. Not only on a national level with increased socialism, but on a global level with increased international control of economies and reduced sovereign control over finance.
I'm sure that most people here already recognize the following, but I'll say it anyways for those who don't: The socialization of US government is in reality a defacto privatization of government. The corporations who have 100% control of our Executive Branch and all of it's massive and increasing agencies will assume defacto control of all private organizations that fall under a nationalization strategy. None will be handed to the Congress - all will be handed to the Executive.
In the past we witnessed private finance take advantage of market depressions by scooping up depreciated assets and using them to establish economic control. In recent history (last 100 years) economic control has been successfully used to usurp media and government. The current depression will be used to close the gap and marry the control of fianance with the control of government.
The upcoming nationalization process will not be socialism in the traditional sense. It will have the outward appearance of socialism bu the internal construct is designed to benefit private shareholders rather than the public.
We all know that the majority of Pat's audience would reject overt socialism. Which means that Pat is running interference. He's pushing forth the lie that Obama is implementing socialism, when in reality, Obama is implementing tyranny and an orchestrated overthrow of private enterprise by traitorous enemies who have usurped control of the US government from the people.
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