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« Reply #120 on: January 03, 2009, 01:30:53 AM »

The top ten advances towards tyranny in the United States during the tenure of the Bush administration, from the Patriot Act to the latest expansion of the illegal eavesdropping surveillance program.

1) The USA Patriot Act

The party line often heard from Neo-Cons in their attempts to defend the Patriot Act either circulate around the contention that the use of the Patriot Act has never been abused or that it isn't being used against American citizens. Here is an archive of articles that disproves both of these fallacies.

The Patriot Act was the boiler plate from which all subsequent attacks on the Constitution were formed.

2) Total Information Awareness

"Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine subscription you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit and e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade you receive, every bank deposit you make, every trip you book and every event you attend — all these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense Department describes as "a virtual, centralized grand database," infamously wrote New York Times writer William Safire, announcing the birth of Total Information Awareness, a kind of Echelon on steroids introduced a year after 9/11.

TIA was not canned, it was simply removed from the newspaper, renamed and continues to operate under a guise of different programs.

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3) USA Patriot Act II

The second Patriot Act was a mirror image of powers that Julius Caesar and Adolf Hitler gave themselves. Whereas the First Patriot Act only gutted the First, Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, and seriously damaged the Seventh and the Tenth, the Second Patriot Act reorganized the entire Federal government as well as many areas of state government under the dictatorial control of the Justice Department, the Office of Homeland Security and the FEMA NORTHCOM military command.

The Domestic Security Enhancement Act 2003, also known as the Second Patriot Act is by its very structure the definition of dictatorship.

4) Military Commissions Act

Slamming the final nail in the coffin of everything America used to stand for, the boot-licking U.S. Senate gave President Bush the legal authority to abduct and sexually mutilate American citizens and American children in the name of the war on terror in passing the Military Commissions Act and officially ending Habeas Corpus.

There is nothing in the "detainee" legislation that protects American citizens from being kidnapped by their own government and tortured.

The New York Times stated that the legislation introduced, "A dangerously broad definition of “illegal enemy combatant” in the bill could subject legal residents of the United States, as well as foreign citizens living in their own countries, to summary arrest and indefinite detention with no hope of appeal. The president could give the power to apply this label to anyone he wanted."

Yale Law Professor Bruce Ackerman states in the L.A. Times, "The compromise legislation....authorizes the president to seize American citizens as enemy combatants, even if they have never left the United States. And once thrown into military prison, they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any other of the normal protections of the Bill of Rights."

Similarly, law Professor Marty Lederman explains: "this [subsection (ii) of the definition of 'unlawful enemy combatant'] means that if the Pentagon says you're an unlawful enemy combatant -- using whatever criteria they wish -- then as far as Congress, and U.S. law, is concerned, you are one, whether or not you have had any connection to 'hostilities' at all."

5) John Warner Defense Authorization Act

The Bush Junta quietly "tooled up" to utilize the U.S. military in engaging American dissidents after the next big crisis, with a frightening and overlooked piece of legislation that was passed alongside the Military Commissions Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, which greased the skids for armed confrontation and abolishes posse comitatus.

6) Illegal Domestic Wiretapping Program

"Months after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying, according to government officials," reported the New York Times on December 16, 2005

The secret warrantless spying program was a complete violation of both the 4th Amendment and FISA.

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7) Expansion of Illegal Domestic Wiretapping Program

Not content with now being lawfully allowed to force ISP's and cell phone companies to turn over data about customers without a warrant, the Bush administration is pushing for even more authority to spy on American citizens, and has already been handed a 6 month window within which to impose any surveillance policy it likes, and for that program to remain legal in perpetuity.

The administration has a 6 month window in which to impose any surveillance program it chooses and that program will go unchallenged and remain legally binding in perpetuity - it cannot be revoked. Under the definitions of the legislation, Bush has been granted absolute dictator status for a minimum of 6 months.

If he so chooses, and so long as it's implemented within the next half year, Bush could build a database of every website visited by every American - and the policy would be immune from Congressional challenge even after the "surveillance gap" legislation reaches its sunset

8 )   Martial Law Presidential Decision Directive 51

New legislation signed on May 9, 2007, declares that in the event of a "catastrophic event", the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.

The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, which also places the Secretary of Homeland Security in charge of domestic "security", was signed earlier this month without the approval or oversight of Congress and seemingly supercedes the National Emergency Act which allows the president to declare a national emergency but also requires that Congress have the authority to "modify, rescind, or render dormant" such emergency authority if it believes the president has acted inappropriately.

9) Destruction of the Dollar

Former World Bank Vice President, Chief Economist and Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz has predicted a global economic crash within 24 months - unless the current downturn is successfully managed. Asked if the situation was being properly handled Stiglitz emphatically responded "no,".

Stiglitz caused controversy in October 2001 when he exposed rampant corruption within the IMF and blew the whistle on their nefarious methods of inducing countries to fall under their debt before stripping them of sovereignty and hollowing out their economies. Stiglitz agreed that the process of hijacking and looting key infrastructure on the part of the IMF and World Bank, as an offshoot of predatory globalization, had now moved from the third world to Europe, the United States and Canada.

10) Amnesty & The North American Union

The open plan to merge the US with Mexico and Canada and create a Pan American Union has long been a Globalist brainchild but its very real and prescient implementation on behalf of the Council on Foreign Relations has finally been reported on by mainstream news outlets.

The framework on which the American Union is being pegged is the NAFTA Super Highway, a four football-fields-wide leviathan that stretches from southern Mexico through the US up to Montreal Canada .Coupled with Bush's blanket amnesty program, the Pan American Union is the final jigsaw piece for the total dismantling of America as we know it.


ALl this is un-Constitutional too despite George's citizenship.
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« Reply #121 on: January 03, 2009, 01:33:44 AM »

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The Sun Dance is a ceremony practiced differently by several North American Indian Nations, but many of the ceremonies have features in common, including dancing, singing and drumming, the experience of visions, fasting, and, in some cases, self-torture.

The Sun Dance was the most spectacular and important religious ceremony of the Plains Indians of 19th-century North America, ordinarily held by each tribe once a year usually at the time of the Summer Solstice.

The Sun Dance last from four to eight days starting at the sunset of the final day of preparation and ending at sunset. It showed a continuity between life and death - a regeneration. It shows that there is no true end to life, but a cycle of symbolic and true deaths and rebirths. All of nature is intertwined and dependent on one another. This gives an equal ground to everything on the Earth.

The Native American tribes who practiced sun dance were:


The Arapaho, Arikara, Asbinboine, Cheyenne, Crow, Gros, Ventre, Hidutsa, Sioux, Plains Cree, Plains Ojibway, Sarasi, Omaha, Ponca, Ute, Shoshone, Kiowa, and Blackfoot tribes.
Their rituals varied from tribe to tribe.
For many tribes of Plains Indians whose bison-hunting culture flourished during the 18th and 19th centuries, the sun dance was the major communal religious ceremony - the rite celebrates renewal - the spiritual rebirth of participants and their relatives as well as the regeneration of the living Earth with all its components - the ritual, involving sacrifice and supplication to insure harmony between all living beings, continues to be practiced by many contemporary native Americans.
The most renowned priest was also the best Lodge maker. He ran the entire ceremony and would instruct the participant in building a preparatory tepee and give direction to the other tribesmen who would gather the items needed for the construction. Men known for their eminence in their tribe were chosen to look for a tree with a fork in the top. This was to be for the first and center pole of the lodge. When a suitable tree was located a special qualified person was called in to cut the tree down. The fallen tree was then treated just like a fallen enemy. Then, depending on the tribe a bundle was placed on the fork. In the Sioux tribe the bundle contained brush, buffalo hide, long straws with tobacco in them and other religious offerings.



The eldest woman of the camp leads a group of elaborately dressed maidens to the tree to strip off its branches. The next morning, right as the sun is seen over the eastern horizon, armed warriors charge the sun-pole. They attack the tree in effort to symbolically kill it with gunshots and arrows. Once it is dead it is cut down and taken to where the Sun Dance Lodge will be erected. Before raising the sun-pole, a fresh buffalo head with a broad center strip of the back of the hide and tail (is) fastened with strong throngs to the top crotch of the sun-pole. Then the pole is raised and set firmly in the ground, with the buffalo head facing toward the setting-sun." The tree represents the center of the world, connecting the heavens to the earth.

The lodge is then built by the main dancer and his clansmen. The fork of the lodge represents the eagle's nest. The eagle plays a large part in the Sun Dance for it is one of the Plains Indians' most sacred animal. The eagle flies high, being the closest creature to the Sun. Therefore it is the link between man and spirit, being the messenger that delivers prayers to the Wakan-Tanka (god).

In addition to being a messenger, the eagle also represents many human traits. We can see what values and traits these cultures saw as being important in a person by those traits imposed upon such a sacred animal. The eagle is seen as courageous, swift, and strong. He has great foresight and knows everything. "In an eagle there is all the wisdom of the world."

During the Sun Dance the eagle is the facilitator of communication between man and spirit. The Crow may be accompanied by a dancing eagle in his visions, the eagle instructing him about the medicine acquired through the vision. The eagle's feathers can cure illnesses. During the Sun Dance a medicine man may use his eagle feather for healing, first touching the feather to the sun-pole then to the patient, transferring the energy from the pole to the ill people.

It is the buffalo, however, that makes up the main theme of the Sun Dance. In various stories it was the buffalo that began the ritual. The Shoshone believe that the buffalo taught someone the proper way to carry out the dance and the benefits in doing it. Buffalo songs, dances, and feast commonly accompany the Sun Dance.

You can see from the symbolic influences of the buffalo in the Sun Dance how important the animal was to Plains Indians' day-to-day life. It was the buffalo that symbolized life for it was the buffalo that gave them quality of life. Plains Indians relied on buffalo for their food, clothing, shelter, and most all utensils from fly swatters to children's toys. These peoples' lives were intertwined with the buffalo's. And this relationship was praised and blessed with the Sun Dance.

The buffalo was incorporated in many ways in the Sun Dance. The Cheyenne held a principle that all essential sacred items in the sun dance (be) related to the buffalo. The Lakota would place a dried buffalo penis against the sun-pole to give virility to the dancers. This reinforces the symbolic meaning of the ceremony as a celebration of the generative power of the sun.

The sun dance was a significant part of the Crow Indian people's spirituality. It was a spiritual retreat in which a large number of participants would fast, pray and dance for a period of days. They asked for answers to events going on in their lives.

The buffalo skull is used as an alter during the Sun Dance. Offerings are presented to the skull, the Cheyenne stuffing the eye and nose sockets with grass, representing bountiful vegetation for the buffalo, which in turn meant healthy buffalo for the people. For others the grass represents bringing the buffalo back to life for grass is what gives the animal life. The Dakota believe that the bones of bison they have killed will rise again with new flesh. The soul was seen to reside in the bones of people and animals, to reduce a living being to a skeleton is equivalent to re- entering the womb of this primordial life - a mystical rebirth.

During the dance the buffalo also has a great role in the visions. The buffalo may knock down a dancer, or the dancer may challenge the buffalo by charging at it. Passing out for too long means one was too afraid to face the buffalo. One must show courage and stand up to the buffalo before the buffalo finds him worthy to give him what he desires. At a certain point the Crow will notice he is seeing through the buffalo's eyes, that he has become one with the buffalo.

The Sun Dance symbolizes a resolution with the conflict between being a people that view the buffalo as wise and powerful, even closer to the creator than humans, and having to kill and eat them to survive. Making the buffalo sacred, symbolically giving new life to it, and treating it with respect and reverence acts a s a sort of reconciliation. Without the buffalo there would be death, and the Plains Indians saw that the buffalo not only provided them with physical well-being, but kept their souls alive, too.

They also believed that the buffaloes gave themselves to them for food, so the natural course to them would be to offer a part of themselves in return out of gratitude. Thus the sacrifice of the dancers through fasting, thirst, and self-inflicted pain reflects the desire to return something of themselves to nature.

Self-inflicted torture has also come to symbolize rebirth. The torture represents death, then the person is symbolically resurrected. The sun dancer is reborn, mentally and spiritually as well as physically,along with the renewal of the buffalo and the entire universe.

In an effort to curb such practices, the United States government outlawed the Sun Dance in 1904. Among a number of tribes benign forms of the ceremony continued, usually as part of Fourth of July celebrations. There were a few tribes, however, that have attempted to revive the Sun Dance in its original form and meaning.

After the dancers all tear free, or after four days, the Sun Dance ends. The dancers are laid down on beds of sage to continue fasting and to recite their visions to the priest. These visions may hold new songs, new dance steps, or even prophecies of the future. Whatever the outcome, the overall feeling for everyone present is of renewal and balance, the relationships between people and nature once again reaffirmed.

When the camp is ready to leave all sacred items is left in a pile by the sun-pole for they are too sacred to keep for personal use. The Sun Dance Lodge is then left standing for nature to do with it as it wills.


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« Reply #122 on: January 03, 2009, 01:34:35 AM »

ALl this is un-Constitutional too despite George's citizenship.

Great, so we determined that citizenship really doesn't matter. Thanks.



Seriously, do you guys have ANY plans that go beyond getting Obama's election, overturned?? Seriously? Do you even think beyond that? You're just driven by your hatred of him, and yet you have NO f**kING PLAN for what to do if you do get his election overturned, now do you? You don't. So quit wasting your energy on this crap, and focus it on issues where you're going to have real impact. You just look like a sorry bunch of losers. I'm not saying ANY of this to defend Obama, I'm saying it because I'm a realist.. NO BODY beyond a handful of people is going to take this shit seriously.


sacrifice and supplication

Really? that's the best you got? Seriously.. it doesn't say anything about HUMAN sacrifice.. nice try, though.

And again, what exactly are you trying to justify? Our taking of their land simply because they practiced rituals that our culture does not agree with??
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« Reply #123 on: January 03, 2009, 01:35:41 AM »

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« Reply #124 on: January 03, 2009, 01:37:53 AM »

Great, so we determined that citizenship really doesn't matter. Thanks.



Seriously, do you guys have ANY plans that go beyond getting Obama's election, overturned?? Seriously? Do you even think beyond that? You're just driven by your hatred of him, and yet you have NO f**kING PLAN for what to do if you do get his election overturned, now do you? You don't. So quit wasting your energy on this crap, and focus it on issues where you're going to have real impact. You just look like a sorry bunch of losers. I'm not saying ANY of this to defend Obama, I'm saying it because I'm a realist.. NO BODY beyond a handful of people is going to take this shit seriously.

No it proves that Americans care about their Constitution whether a citizen is "legitimately" elected or not.  Bush's electoral legitimacy has long been drawn into question.

No matter what Presidential decree gets signed the Constitution still stands, damn the NWO and all their minions.
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« Reply #125 on: January 03, 2009, 01:38:50 AM »

I'm done arguing with faux truth seekers and nitwits. enjoy your lynch fest.
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« Reply #126 on: January 03, 2009, 01:39:58 AM »

I'm done arguing with faux truth seekers and nitwits. enjoy your lynch fest.

cointel right there, it is not a matter of race you damn idiot its about liberty vs tyranny tell your bosses to go f**k themselves
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« Reply #127 on: January 03, 2009, 01:40:31 AM »

Great, so we determined that citizenship really doesn't matter. Thanks.



Seriously, do you guys have ANY plans that go beyond getting Obama's election, overturned?? Seriously? Do you even think beyond that? You're just driven by your hatred of him, and yet you have NO f**kING PLAN for what to do if you do get his election overturned, now do you? You don't. So quit wasting your energy on this crap, and focus it on issues where you're going to have real impact. You just look like a sorry bunch of losers. I'm not saying ANY of this to defend Obama, I'm saying it because I'm a realist.. NO BODY beyond a handful of people is going to take this shit seriously.
You are a realist? And you are on a forum trying to change others minds? lol ok.

Quit wasting our energy on this crap? What should we waste our energy on? Complaining about people wasting their energy on something? You have that department covered.

Only loser here is the one who thinks his opinion matters enough to make a difference, not here not now not ever. Have fun with your hatred of those who hate.
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« Reply #128 on: January 03, 2009, 01:40:55 AM »

I guess that illustration of a native american being sacrificed upset him. its ok to be wrong, just dont be an ass about it.
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« Reply #129 on: January 03, 2009, 01:43:29 AM »

I'm done arguing with faux truth seekers and nitwits. enjoy your lynch fest.

Wow linking a Constitutionality question with a lynch-fest, is that the best thing your COINTELPRO manuals tell you ??

Look soldier you took an oath to uphold the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.  The NWO fits this description so you had better decide which side you're on when the riots/rebellion start.  Cuz Americans aint taking prisoners.
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« Reply #130 on: January 03, 2009, 01:44:59 AM »

damn, this shit is funny.
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« Reply #131 on: January 03, 2009, 01:49:32 AM »

wow this thread was good until the battle began, or maybe it was after, lol -  Those were some interesting videos about Obamas parents and his back ground BTW


anyways Gangularis, I think you back your points of view well


I've been reading these forums a lot lately, and it seems like some of these posters have got to be teen-agers, the way they resort to name calling
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« Reply #132 on: January 03, 2009, 01:51:41 AM »

cointel right there, it is not a matter of race you damn idiot its about liberty vs tyranny tell your bosses to go f**k themselves


You really need to stop beating around the bush...
tell us how you really feel...
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« Reply #133 on: January 03, 2009, 01:55:59 AM »

wow this thread was good until the battle began.  Those were some interesting videos about Obamas parents and his back ground


anyways Gangularis, I think you back your points of view well


I've been reading these forums a lot lately, and it seems like some of these posters have got to be teen-agers, the way they resort to name calling
His view was, that the incidents of genocide against the Native Americans in the 1500's are comparable with the "ideas" that got us into Iraq -  and the U.S. Constitution is not "the end all be all" document, however  the U.S. constitution IS the end all be all document in the U.S., it is what we base our culture on and there is a reason why it was put there.

And as far as comparing native american genocide with the invasion and occupation of iraq that is pure idiocy, or comparing it with the constitution or whatever he was attempting to do.

He doesn't appear to know much about U.S. History or Native Americans in my opinion. Once one arguement went south he jumped on board another arguement to keep the bullshit going.
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« Reply #134 on: January 03, 2009, 01:56:52 AM »

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« Reply #135 on: January 03, 2009, 01:59:46 AM »

ok, but I kinda got the point he was making was that how ever much we can all love the constitution, we can probably agree that it is ever changing, and we could probably all agree that our leaders are not doing a very good job at following it to the T anyhow
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« Reply #136 on: January 03, 2009, 02:01:07 AM »

Gangularis is either an Obamanoid or a COINTELPRO hack who was rooted out rather quickly.

Be preparded for the next attack.
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« Reply #137 on: January 03, 2009, 02:41:15 AM »

It wasn't proven to be a fake by anyone, other than the people that SET OUT to debunk it. Again, thanks for the continued bigotry. At least I know what kind of mentality you all share here. You want to keep crying about this in this little thread, be my guest.
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« Reply #138 on: January 03, 2009, 02:43:15 AM »

Who the F cares?? Do you REALLY think you're going to get him kicked out of the president elect position?? And even if you were, what do you think would happen? Would Ron Paul be magically dubbed the new president? No, he wouldn't..Seriously,  get over this stupid petty bullshit. You're wasting your energy.

It sounds like you need to move to russia as we americans respect the upholding of the US Constitution  even though our Government does not  we do. It is a constitutional conflict if obama is allowed to take office if he has not shown actual certified proof that he is a natural born US citizen.
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« Reply #139 on: January 03, 2009, 02:44:19 AM »

Gangularis is either an Obamanoid or a COINTELPRO hack who was rooted out rather quickly.

Be preparded for the next attack.
Yep, these bastards are out in full force.
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« Reply #140 on: January 03, 2009, 08:45:47 AM »

Gangularis, I take it you don't give a shit about the constitution. You think I'm "stupid" for fighting to protect the constitution? Fine, in 2012, just so you can find out what it's like to live in a FEMA camp, I'm voting for Arney. I'm sure you won't have a problem with HIM running. So go and hide in the corner while the real adults fight for what's right. As for your argument about Native Americans, if you are not of Native American descent, then STFU. YOU do not represent my people. I'm sick of the non-native Americans thinking they can represent our people, YOU CAN"T. I can, I have a long blood line. How bout you? I am descended from an Irish Magistrate, to Benjamin Franklin, further back to a Chippewa Chieftain, all the way back to the Germanic tribes. In our family tree, we're descended from 1 of the pilgrims as well. We have been here for a very very long time. I have been fighting to restore the constitution, as my ancestors would expect, yet you think I'm "stupid" for doing it. Maybe the families of the founding fathers should just say "to hell with you all" and  just leave. You want the FEMA camps, big brother and all the other evil crap comming our way, then you can have it. Don't blame the founding fathers or their families because we HAVE been trying to save the constitution, with no help from you of course. I'll be sure to pass on your hatred of the constitution to the rest of the family.
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« Reply #141 on: January 03, 2009, 09:08:52 AM »


Check out the song Doomsday from this artist www.myspace.com/officialdoomsday  It plays alot of Bushs' doubletalk and lies.
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« Reply #142 on: January 03, 2009, 10:33:10 AM »

Well if you don't want to wait untill this turns out to be ture or not, here is a message you could send to Congress to ask them to challange Obama.

If the Constitution doesn't mean precisely what it says, then America is no longer a nation under the rule of law.

A nation no longer under the rule of law is, by definition, under the rule of men.

Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution clearly stipulates "No person except a natural born Citizen" shall be eligible to serve as president of the United States . That statement has clear meaning.

I urge you to take this matter most seriously – and judge it only on the clear, unambiguous words of the Constitution: A president must, be a "natural born citizen" of the United States .

The 14th Amendment does not convey the status of “natural born Citizen” in its text. It just conveys the status of “Citizen”. And it’s very clear that in the pre-amendment Constitution, the Framers made a distinction between a “Citizen” and a “natural born Citizen”. The requirement to be a Senator or Representative is “Citizen”, but the requirement to be President is “natural born Citizen”.

From the 14th Amendment:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.”

But even as to this conveyance of citizenship, those who were responsible for drafting the 14th Amendment made it clear that - to them - the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” meant subject only to the jurisdiction thereof.

If you agree that this clear constitutional requirement still matters,than Congress must use its authority to the objection to Barack Obama’s certification as the next President of the United States until it has been secured that he is in fact eligible to take office. The counting of electoral votes by Congress is January 8, 2009.

There is grave, widespread and rapidly growing concern throughout the American public that this constitutional requirement is being overlooked and enforcement neglected by state and federal election authorities. If the Supreme Court falls to dispel all doubt that America 's next president is truly a natural born citizen of the United States, than Congress must.

I am asking that you file a WRITTEN objection to Barack Obama’s certification as the next President of the United States until it has been secured that he is in fact eligible to take office.


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« Reply #143 on: January 03, 2009, 10:44:12 AM »

Have they gone now? -'Gangularis'?

Pretty obvious distraction job I feel.

You gotta watch your enemy within, so called Americans who think the Constitution 'isn't the be all and end all' or 'just a bit of paper'




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« Reply #144 on: January 03, 2009, 11:24:00 AM »

Some of this info may already be known to many people, but when assembled like this and when the dots are all connected, well, it is indeed
INTERESTING......

These videos were posted on Israpundit dot com last week:

Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tlYHC7wYsY

Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyHONEX4lU

Part III: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_CZVwQWCA

Part IV: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2470841028297126909&hl=en

Please view all four vids in order

certainly interesting stuff
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« Reply #145 on: January 03, 2009, 11:31:35 AM »

ya it was.  I gathered that his brother or his cousin is actively leading some coup in Africa right now? in or around Kenya? (it was last night I watched 'em)

His mother grew up with witches and communists?  (in Kansas and Oregon)

They sort of suggested that Ayers (?) was authoring his biography's, or at least large parts of them

The intensity of his Muslim faith is definitely alarming, and so are some of their beliefs

I'd have to watch them again, there was a bunch of info and the text wasn't on the screen long enough, I had to keep pausing the video to read everything lol
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« Reply #146 on: January 03, 2009, 12:31:13 PM »

not to mention what his brother is doing in china
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« Reply #147 on: January 03, 2009, 04:16:00 PM »

not to mention what his brother is doing in china

Huh?
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« Reply #148 on: January 03, 2009, 07:12:32 PM »

I found something strange on some forums but source?Huh?

 
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« Reply #149 on: January 03, 2009, 07:27:11 PM »

Wow so much for a legitimate conversation, here we go again. Stop claiming someone is cointelpro, if you keep this up and 90% of all americans will be classified as cointelpro according to these forums. Grow up people.

Maybe you're COINTELPRO, eh?

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« Reply #150 on: January 03, 2009, 07:33:39 PM »

I found something strange on some forums but source?Huh?

 
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How can someone with so many unanswered questions about his past be poised to be sworn-in as President of The United States?
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« Reply #151 on: January 03, 2009, 08:58:18 PM »

Huh?

I suggest searching "Mark Ndesandjo" and see what kind of business he is into and where its at.
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« Reply #152 on: January 03, 2009, 11:55:40 PM »

There are a slew of lawyers lining up to challenge Obama's legitimacy.  2009 will prove to be an interesting year.

It finally made it to the GLOBE as far as print media goes.    Undecided Undecided Undecided

We must wait and see...    Cool
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« Reply #153 on: January 04, 2009, 07:34:06 AM »

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The story claims that Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham, where not married, yet we have seen the divorce papers.  So I'm not sure how truthful this story is!!
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« Reply #154 on: January 04, 2009, 08:24:13 AM »

I'm done arguing with faux truth seekers and nitwits. enjoy your lynch fest.

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« Reply #155 on: January 04, 2009, 08:56:15 AM »

An interesting tidbit from BBC News:

Kenyan media gag law approved
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7808815.stm
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« Reply #156 on: January 10, 2009, 02:52:41 AM »

Obama's mother's original Social Security Number Application..

   
 
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« Reply #157 on: January 10, 2009, 07:03:09 AM »

Obama's mother's original Social Security Number Application..

   
 
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Okay...what does this do for us?
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« Reply #158 on: January 10, 2009, 10:07:50 PM »

The story claims that Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham, where not married, yet we have seen the divorce papers.  So I'm not sure how truthful this story is!!

Not very truthful at all?  Obama's parents divorced, we even have the divorce papers, (That weren't the bombshell as advertised lol) kind of hard to get a divorce without getting married beforehand lol.

The rest of the paper is just... weird.  Obama was really born in Indonesia, his full name includes Muhammed (Of course he's a Muslim too lol.), his mom is still alive, and those are the least way out-there pieces of "WTF?" in the article.
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« Reply #159 on: January 11, 2009, 04:21:14 AM »

Wouldn't a new election need to be convened if Obama is not eligible? Maybe the VP elect would be President up until the point of re-election, does anybody know about this? Does anybody know the procedure?
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