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Author Topic: ***Israel initiates genocidal ground war into Gaza: 1,300 killed > 6,000 wounded  (Read 135483 times)
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« Reply #1240 on: January 04, 2009, 07:52:07 PM »

Not to trivialize the use of DIME and DU here, but civilian populations worldwide are continuously breathing dangerous poisons from the chemtrail spraying.  Also, our exposure to fluoride, aspartame, GMO foods and toxic vaccines essentially make all of us Palestinians.




That is the sickest chemtrail photo I've ever seen. Oh but I'm sure it's just atmospheric conditions.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1241 on: January 04, 2009, 07:54:31 PM »

That is the sickest chemtrail photo I've ever seen. Oh but I'm sure it's just atmospheric conditions.  Roll Eyes

Yeah, but at least we still have the simple comforts to keep us relatively "happy" while we die, like a warm bed, clean water, and morphine.

They have NONE of those.
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« Reply #1242 on: January 04, 2009, 07:56:10 PM »

Yeah, but at least we still have the simple comforts to keep us relatively "happy" while we die, like a warm bed, clean water, and morphine.

They have NONE of those.

If you mean those in Gaza, yeah true, except I'd disagree about the clean water part...at least what comes out of the tap.  Tongue
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« Reply #1243 on: January 04, 2009, 07:58:53 PM »

If you mean those in Gaza, yeah true, except I'd disagree about the clean water part...at least what comes out of the tap.  Tongue

No, fluoride at least takes a while before it starts to produce symptoms ; they have HUMAN WASTE running down the STREET. Which means it has probably contaminated the water supply with all kinds of friendly parasites and bacteria like malaria and e. coli...those will kill you within DAYS.
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« Reply #1244 on: January 05, 2009, 04:18:13 AM »

Depleted uranium found in Gaza victims 


04/01/2009 11:17:00 PM GMT
http://aljazeera.com/news/articles/34/Depleted_uranium_found_in_Gaza_victims.html
 
 Medics have found traces of depleted uranium in some Gazan residents wounded in Israel's ground offensive into the strip.


A wounded Palestinian boy is carried into a hospital in Gaza January 4, 2009.


Medics tell Press TV they have found traces of depleted uranium in some Gazan residents wounded in Israel's ground offensive into the strip.

Norwegian medics told Press TV correspondent Akram al-Sattari that some of the victims who have been wounded since Israel began its attacks on the Gaza Strip on December 27 have traces of depleted uranium in their bodies.

The report comes after Israeli tanks and troops swept across the border into Gaza on Saturday night, opening a ground operation after eight days of intensive attacks by Israeli air and naval forces on the impoverished region.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned on Sunday that the wide-ranging ground offensive in the Gaza Strip would be "full of surprises."

A ground offensive in the densely-populated Gaza is expected to drastically increase the death toll of the civilian population.

The latest assaults bring the number of Palestinians killed to over 488 with 2790 others wounded. The UN says that about 25 percent of the casualties were civilian deaths - including at least 34 children.

According to Israeli army officials, at least 30 of its soldiers have been wounded since the start of the ground campaign.

Amid global condemnation of the ongoing violence in the region, the UN Security Council failed to agree on a united approach to resolve the crisis.

" Once again, the world is watching in dismay the dysfunctionality of the Security Council," UN General Assembly chief Miguel d'Escoto said Sunday.

According to diplomatic sources, the US blocked a Security Council resolution, with US Deputy Ambassador Alejandro Wolff arguing that an official statement that criticizes both Israel and Hamas would not be helpful.

The White House has so far declined to comment on whether an Israeli ground incursion into Gaza is a justified measure.


-- Press TV

 
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« Reply #1245 on: January 05, 2009, 04:36:19 AM »

depleted uranium kills for years, it should be banned from all warfare..
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« Reply #1246 on: January 05, 2009, 05:41:49 AM »

Presstv are reporting now it is 538 killed and 3000 wounded, this is a worse salughter than the attack on Lebanon in terms of a lot more killed and wounded within the first 10 days (from a population a quarter of the size)
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« Reply #1247 on: January 05, 2009, 07:03:47 AM »

Israel is gonna keep on with their genocidal slaughter:
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« Reply #1248 on: January 05, 2009, 08:38:13 AM »

depleted uranium kills for years, it should be banned from all warfare..

As I understand it, it already is banned:

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Bunker buster bombs containing depleted uranium warheads used by Israel against civilian targets in Lebanon

by Dr. Doug Rokke
Global Research
November 6, 2006


Depleted Uranium Situation Worsens Requiring Immediate Action By President Bush, Prime Minister Blair, and Prime Minister Olmert

The delivery of at least 100 GBU 28 bunker busters bombs containing depleted uranium warheads by the United States to Israel for use against targets in Lebanon will result in additional radioactive and chemical toxic contamination with consequent adverse health and environmental effects throughout the middle east. Israeli tank gunners are also using depleted uranium tank rounds as photographs verify.

Today, U.S., British, and now Israeli military personnel are using illegal uranium munitions- America's and England's own "dirty bombs" while U.S. Army, U.S. Department of Energy, U.S. Department of Defense, and British Ministry of Defence officials deny that there are any adverse health and environmental effects as a consequence of the manufacture, testing, and/or use of uranium munitions to avoid liability for the willful and illegal dispersal of a radioactive toxic material - depleted uranium.

The use of uranium weapons is absolutely unacceptable, and a crime against humanity. Consequently the citizens of the world and all governments must force cessation of uranium weapons use. I must demand that Israel now provide medical care to all DU casualties in Lebanon and clean up all DU contamination.

U.S. and British officials have arrogantly refused to comply with their own regulations, orders, and directives that require United States Department of Defense officials to provide prompt and effective medical care to "all" exposed individuals. Reference: Medical Management of Unusual Depleted Uranium Casualties, DOD, Pentagon, 10/14/93, Medical Management of Army personnel Exposed to Depleted Uranium (DU) Headquarters, U.S. Army Medical Command 29 April 2004, and section 2-5 of U.S. Army Regulation 700-48. Israeli officials must not do so now.

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US Forces' Use of Depleted Uranium Weapons is 'Illegal' 

by Neil Mackay
CommonDreams.org
March 30, 2003
 

BRITISH and American coalition forces are using depleted uranium (DU) shells in the war against Iraq and deliberately flouting a United Nations resolution which classifies the munitions as illegal weapons of mass destruction.

DU contaminates land, causes ill-health and cancers among the soldiers using the weapons, the armies they target and civilians, leading to birth defects in children.

Professor Doug Rokke, ex-director of the Pentagon's depleted uranium project -- a former professor of environmental science at Jacksonville University and onetime US army colonel who was tasked by the US department of defense with the post-first Gulf war depleted uranium desert clean-up -- said use of DU was a 'war crime'.

Rokke said: 'There is a moral point to be made here. This war was about Iraq possessing illegal weapons of mass destruction -- yet we are using weapons of mass destruction ourselves.' He added: 'Such double-standards are repellent.'

[Continued...]


Why Weapons Containing Depleted Uranium Are Illegal
A Bring Them Home Now! Special Report

by Karen Parker, J.D.
Sep 30, 2003


There are two ways to determine if the use of a particular weapon in military operations is illegal. The easiest way is if the weapon is used in violation of a treaty that forbids its use and the State using it is a party to that treaty. If there is no treaty on a specific weapon, then one must determine if the use of that weapon would violate existing rules and principles of binding humanitarian (armed conflict) law. Under these rules (the "weapons test") – derived from The Hague Conventions, the Geneva Conventions, and all other sources of military law – a weapon may be banned if:

(1) it has harmful effects outside the legal field of battle (the "geography" test);
(2) it has harmful effects after the war is over (the "time" test);
(3) its use is unduly inhuman or causes undue suffering (the "humaneness" test); or
(4) it has a harmful effect on the environment (the "environment" test). The first two tests arise from the requirement that weapons may not be indiscriminate. Because there is no specific weapon treaty forbidding the use of depleted uranium, the illegality of DU must be shown by the second method.

Weaponry containing depleted uranium (DU) fails all four tests. It is indiscriminate in geography as the effects of DU weapons cannot be contained to the legal military targets. Instead is air-born far afield of legal targets to illegal (civilian) targets: hospitals, schools, civilian dwellings and even neighboring countries with which the user is not at war. DU weapons are indiscriminate in time, and cannot be "turned off" when the war is over. Even with rigorous clean-up of war zones, the air-born particles have a half life of billions of years and can keep killing and injuring former combatants and non-combatants long after the war is over. DU weapons "kill" in inhumane ways, causing cancers, kidney problems, eye problems, lung diseases, and according to the medical researchers who have investigated it, many other serious conditions. Additionally, DU weapons cause disabilities in the children of those exposed – cranial-facial anomalies, missing limbs, grossly deformed and non-viable infants and the like – so in this sense are tetragenic. As these conditions can occur to non-combatants or may arise long after military operations have concluded, DU weapons are necessarily inhumane. The tetragenic nature of DU weapons raises the possibility of a genocidal effect. Finally, DU weapons unduly contaminate the natural environment, including water and agricultural land necessary for the subsistence of the civilian population for beyond the lifetime of that population.

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For additional info, see:

     http://www.ratical.org/radiation/DU/

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« Reply #1249 on: January 05, 2009, 09:13:41 AM »

see above

Absolutely Horrified

IF they really want that land for israel, WTF are they doing dumping depleted uranium.

ALSO

Consider if depleted Uranium is used AND there is a fire, in a Bunker, Tank or what ever, the container can cause extreme tempratures which will vapourize the depleted uranium.
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« Reply #1250 on: January 05, 2009, 10:10:21 AM »

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NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg pays a visit to the Southern Israel town of Sederot to get a first hand look at damage from Hamas terror. Pictures courtesy of The Muqata's good friend:



New York Congressman Gary Ackerman (D) and NY Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly are traveling with Bloomberg.

According to the AP:

    In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Bloomberg said he fully understood Israel’s actions. “You should rest assured, if anyone in New York was being threatened, my instruction to the NYPD (New York police) would be to use all the resources at their disposal to protect civilians,” Bloomberg said.

    “I think as a New Yorker, we’ve been attacked twice by al-Qaida itself,” said the mayor, who is Jewish. “We’ve seen enormous devastation and courage and after that you sort of feel you have a bond, if you will, for those who live in a dangerous world and subject to someone trying to kill them.”
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« Reply #1251 on: January 05, 2009, 10:11:27 AM »

Bloomberg is a sick disgrace, when people like him go begging to the Palestinians to ask for forgiveness then we will know the world has some sense of morality again
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« Reply #1252 on: January 05, 2009, 10:18:06 AM »

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NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg pays a visit to the Southern Israel town of Sederot to get a first hand look at damage from Hamas terror. Pictures courtesy of The Muqata's good friend:



New York Congressman Gary Ackerman (D) and NY Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly are traveling with Bloomberg.

According to the AP:

    In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Bloomberg said he fully understood Israel’s actions. “You should rest assured, if anyone in New York was being threatened, my instruction to the NYPD (New York police) would be to use all the resources at their disposal to protect civilians,” Bloomberg said.

    “I think as a New Yorker, we’ve been attacked twice by al-Qaida itself,” said the mayor, who is Jewish. “We’ve seen enormous devastation and courage and after that you sort of feel you have a bond, if you will, for those who live in a dangerous world and subject to someone trying to kill them.”


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« Reply #1253 on: January 05, 2009, 10:29:47 AM »


Attn. Infowarriors:

I could use a little help with this fellow Ohio blogger and her blind support for the Israeli offensive.

No registration required for comments.

http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/


She is supposedly open to other views and seems not to censor any post.
Her blog is read by many folks worldwide  ( why I dont know).
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« Reply #1254 on: January 05, 2009, 10:45:25 AM »

Attn. Infowarriors:

I could use a little help with this fellow Ohio blogger and her blind support for the Israeli offensive.

No registration required for comments.

http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/


She is supposedly open to other views and seems not to censor any post.
Her blog is read by many folks worldwide  ( why I dont know).


Scratch that part about not censoring. She just said my last post was Hate speech and censored part of it. I said if you support the Israelis seige there is a special palce in hell for them. Is this hate?
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« Reply #1255 on: January 05, 2009, 11:09:30 AM »

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NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg pays a visit to the Southern Israel town of Sederot to get a first hand look at damage from Hamas terror. Pictures courtesy of The Muqata's good friend:



New York Congressman Gary Ackerman (D) and NY Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly are traveling with Bloomberg.

According to the AP:

    In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Bloomberg said he fully understood Israel’s actions. “You should rest assured, if anyone in New York was being threatened, my instruction to the NYPD (New York police) would be to use all the resources at their disposal to protect civilians,” Bloomberg said.

    “I think as a New Yorker, we’ve been attacked twice by al-Qaida itself,” said the mayor, who is Jewish. “We’ve seen enormous devastation and courage and after that you sort of feel you have a bond, if you will, for those who live in a dangerous world and subject to someone trying to kill them.”


I truly don't see anything that is Human in that Horrid Picture of Evil NWO lying demons...

lie to the world while causing genocide.

you're going to pay for your evil works/lies/sins/rape/murders/genocides/endless list of evil doings/etc,etc

The most High of Angles said "Even the most high of demon is humbled to its knees before the almighty creator of the Heaven & the Universe"
Can't wait to see the looks on their evil demon faces then......

Evil in human skin planing more diabolical deeds is what we're seeing here.




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« Reply #1256 on: January 05, 2009, 11:32:56 AM »

Israel battles Hamas as toll mounts
Tuesday, January 06, 2009 » 12:41am
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Israel allowed a convoy of humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza Strip, as it pressed on with a massive offensive on Hamas.

Israeli warplanes have carried out intensive raids on Hamas targets as ground troops surround Gaza's main city.

The senior Hamas leader in Gaza promised 'victory is coming' for the Islamist group, but Israel's defence minister said 'we have hit Hamas hard' while insisting the operation to halt Hamas rocket attacks would continue.

Israel, under pressure over the mounting toll on civilians, agreed to let food and fuel into Gaza, but about 200 trucks were stuck at the border as the military said no one had turned up to receive the supplies.

Thousands of ground troops intensified their move into the Palestinian enclave of 1.5 million people, battling Hamas fighters in the east of the territory as they tightened their grip around Gaza City.

Israeli jets carried out more than 30 air strikes. The military said they hit a mosque in the northern town of Jabaliya 'where arms were being stored, as well as houses containing arms caches and vehicles that were transporting rocket launchers and armed men.'

Naval ships off the coast also bombarded targets to help the ground force advance launched on Saturday night.

The Israeli strikes killed another 14 Palestinians, including five children, on Monday, medics said.

Three children were killed by a tank shell in Zeitun and two were killed in Shati by a naval strike, according to the head of Gaza medical emergency services, Moawiya Hassanein.

More than 520 Palestinians - including at least 90 children - have been killed since Israel launched Operation Cast Lead on December 27, with about 2,500 wounded.

Israel says dozens of Hamas fighters have been killed, while one Israeli soldier has been reported dead and 55 wounded since Saturday.

Defence Minister Ehud Barak told parliament the Hamas war would go on.

'Gaza City is partially surrounded,' Barak told deputies. 'We have hit Hamas hard, but we have not yet reached all the goals that we have set for ourselves and the operation continues,' he said.

'We are doing everything that a state must do to protect its citizens,' he said. 'We want that the attacks against our citizens and our soldiers stop.'

Three civilians and one soldier have been killed by rockets fired from Gaza since Israel's operation started. More than 10 rocket and missile attacks were reported Monday.

Hamas remained defiant. 'Victory is coming, God willing,' the movement's senior leader in Gaza, Mahmud Zahar said in a television address.

Israel faces intense international pressure to agree a ceasefire and ease the suffering of the Gaza population which has no power or water supplies and endures a daily struggle to get food, according to aid agencies.

Israel agreed to let 200 trucks cross into Gaza on Monday but the military said no one turned up on the Palestinian side to receive the supplies.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy was due to hold talks with Israeli and Palestinian leaders on Monday on ways to seek a ceasefire.

An EU ministerial delegation and a Russian envoy were also due in the region. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called off a trip to China because of the Gaza crisis.

France's Sarkozy was scheduled to meet Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in Jerusalem and Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas in Ramallah, after a first meeting with Egyptian counterpart, Hosni Mubarak, in Cairo.

Czech Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg, whose country holds the rotating EU presidency, is heading a delegation to the Middle East, while Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's Middle East envoy, Alexander Saltanov, was also on the way.

The European Union and Russia are both part of the Middle East diplomatic Quartet, along with the United Nations and the United States.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said on Sunday he would be working with key players on ways to end the violence.

The Israeli offensive has sparked spiralling anger in the Muslim world and protests across the globe.

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« Reply #1257 on: January 05, 2009, 11:51:18 AM »


lie to the world while causing genocide.

you're going to pay for your evil works/lies/sins/rape/murders/genocides/endless list of evil doings/etc,etc

No one dares to make any move against Israel. W. approves of it. NObama says nothing. Zionist Sarkozy is a clown.

I would nuke them and get it over with.
This is the only way to keep these b*st*rd murderers quiet once and for all.
The final solution (revisited) needs to be applied.


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Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/04/israelandthepalestinians-middleeast
'There were shells, rockets everywhere'
As Israeli troops move deeper into Gaza, Hazem Balousha and Chris McGreal speak to people inside the besieged territory

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/05/civilian-catasrophe-gaza
Tanks, rockets, death and terror: a civilian catastrophe unfolding
Incessant bombardment, no electricity, no water, and the hospitals full to overflowing - how Gaza was torn apart

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« Reply #1258 on: January 05, 2009, 12:31:06 PM »



Is this white phosphorous?
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« Reply #1259 on: January 05, 2009, 12:31:50 PM »


I would nuke them and get it over with.

The final solution (revisited) needs to be applied.

Scr*w you J*ws!

what bloody stupidity you talk, f*** off moron
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« Reply #1260 on: January 05, 2009, 12:38:41 PM »

what bloody stupidity you talk, f*** off moron

agree, wtf?
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« Reply #1261 on: January 05, 2009, 12:47:24 PM »

Gaza wounded dying because ambulances can't reach them: Red Cross

GENEVA (AFP) — People wounded in fighting in the Gaza Strip are dying because ambulances cannot reach them, the International Committee of the Red Cross said Monday.

"The situation is extremely dangerous and the coordination of ambulance services is very complex because of the incessant attacks and military operations," ICRC spokeswoman Dorothea Krimitsas said in Geneva.

"Wounded people have died while waiting for Palestinian Red Crescent ambulances," she added.

The International Committee of the Red Cross was also concerned about water supplies in the densely populated coastal strip.

Krimitsas said two out of the 45 wells in the Gaza Strip were out of action after having been hit during Israeli air raids, while the pumps on eight others were no longer working because of power cuts.

"Half a million people, that's about one third of the population of the territory, are threatened with being completely deprived of water," she said.

Krimitsas said technicians needed to gain access to the electrical installations damaged during the fighting.

A team of four ICRC medical staff, including a surgeon, were allowed into the Gaza Strip from Israel on Monday after three days' delay, the relief agency said.

They are due to help staff at the territory's Shifa hospital carry out complex operations on the wounded. The medical team also brought in tetanus vaccines for children and blood supplies, Krimitsas said.

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« Reply #1262 on: January 05, 2009, 12:49:27 PM »



Is this white phosphorous?

yes, here is the story http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=78335.msg438866;topicseen#msg438866
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« Reply #1263 on: January 05, 2009, 01:14:35 PM »

They're reorganizing to become AmeriCIAduh. That's the next boogey man coming from the West.
OR they are there in disguise, hired by Israel.
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« Reply #1264 on: January 05, 2009, 02:20:27 PM »

It seems ALQ has an alliance with Israel - an agreement to never attack Israel or support Hamas or Hezbollah, in return Israel never attacks ALQ.  This alliance may be behind the reports that Mossad was tracking the hijackers in 2001 and gave them intel to assist in the 9-11 attacks.
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« Reply #1265 on: January 05, 2009, 02:31:21 PM »



Is this white phosphorous?

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« Reply #1266 on: January 05, 2009, 02:55:53 PM »

and that's why not a single Jew died in 9/11.
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« Reply #1267 on: January 05, 2009, 03:01:19 PM »

and that's why not a single Jew died in 9/11.
for real?
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« Reply #1268 on: January 05, 2009, 03:17:34 PM »

Yes, it is white P.  It is illegal, and against the Geneva Conventions.  And yes the US is using it.

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« Reply #1269 on: January 05, 2009, 03:22:16 PM »

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=99c_1231061813

Banned under the Geneva convention for being classed a Chemical Weapon,White Phosphorus is being used by IDF in a similar way to US forces in the Fallujah,Iraq siege that was sparked by the Fallujah residents dragging the charred and mutilated Blackwater Security team's bodies around the town behind a truck,then the little that remained of these men was hung from a bridge in the city.

White phospho More..rus is allowed to be used militarily in smoke grenades, used as cover from snipers and for illumination when dispersed into the air from artillery,mortar or launched from an appropriate aerial platform.After Fallujah there where cases of deaths recorded that could not be attributed to gunshot wounds or fragmentation leading some Iraqi Doctors wondering where they the "field trial" for a microwave weapon or chemical attack.It seemed that WP had been used on Fallujah but only for "illumination purposes" and in accordance with with U.N. guidelines it seems.The more difficult the insurgency becomes the quicker such options may be put on the table
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« Reply #1270 on: January 05, 2009, 03:23:19 PM »

American Jews died on 9-11, but no Israelis.

I don't consider that very important - more important is the Mossad teams trailing and assisting the hijackers, the van of Israeli's celebrating the burning towers, and the revelations of Sibel Edmonds of a group of American neocons inside the Bush regime assisting Israel and Turkey in drugs and arms money laundering, and deporting 9-11 suspects out of the country before they could "spill the beans".

And the fact that ALQ never attacks Israel, attacks enemies of Israel (Syria, Iran, Russia, Hezbollah), and is nowhere to be seen in the Gaza crisis, just as they were nowhere to be seen during the Lebanon crisis or the Intafada.
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« Reply #1271 on: January 05, 2009, 03:23:47 PM »

Here is what it does.

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« Reply #1272 on: January 05, 2009, 03:39:17 PM »

No one dares to make any move against Israel. W. approves of it. NObama says nothing. Zionist Sarkozy is a clown.

I would nuke them and get it over with.
This is the only way to keep these b*st*rd murderers quiet once and for all.
The final solution (revisited) needs to be applied.



Nuking Israel would be the trigger to a world war and that is what they are trying to manipulate (plays right into their deglobalization agenda). Fact is, nuking Israel will do little to stop the Zionist agenda since they are in positions all over the globe. As a second thought, nuking Israel would also be nuking both Palestinian states (Gaza and West Bank). That would make America the scapegoat for Zionist gameplaying. Our best offensive is to neutralize and erradicate the Zionist/Illuminati/NWO regime. Then, and only then, will we be able to make global restoration and harmony a valid goal.
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« Reply #1273 on: January 05, 2009, 03:49:09 PM »

It seems ALQ has an alliance with Israel - an agreement to never attack Israel or support Hamas or Hezbollah, in return Israel never attacks ALQ.  This alliance may be behind the reports that Mossad was tracking the hijackers in 2001 and gave them intel to assist in the 9-11 attacks.

I find it quite Ironic that Al-CIA-duh would have a pact with Israel, but 'attack the US'. It sounds ludicrous, doesn't it? So far the current consensus is that  AlQaida is a product of the CIA, much like Hamas is a product of Mossad. AlQaida, if it were real, would have been all over Israel by now, as the attacks on Gaza are far from a 'defensive move' of the IDF. The slaughter of their Palestinian brothers would have brought them to Jerusalem in a heartbeat.
 I'm guessing that's why AlQaida has been silent. They're all back home in the US, spending time with their families during new years.
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« Reply #1274 on: January 05, 2009, 03:57:05 PM »

Yes, it is white P.  It is illegal, and against the Geneva Conventions.  And yes the US is using it.

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it is well worth noting in case anyone is in doubt, that all the tactics used by israel are used on a far larger scale by the US military and intel multiheaded hydra, and of course in no small way by  'Her Britannic Majesty's Armed Forces' (chuck, hurl, uurrrgghh)
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« Reply #1275 on: January 05, 2009, 04:28:53 PM »

update on the situation, apologies it is BBC but it does describe  the strategic situation this evening

Casualties rise in Gaza offensive

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7812286.stm





Casualties have been pouring into over-stretched hospitals in the Gaza Strip as Israel presses on with its offensive against Palestinian militant groups.

Palestinian medical officials say at least 90 people, including many civilians and 26 children, have died since Israel's ground assault began.

Israel says it is targeting militants continuing to fire rockets into Israel.

Intense diplomatic efforts are under way to resolve the crisis, but Israel rejected calls for an immediate truce.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who is on a mission to the region, appealed for a halt to the violence to allow humanitarian aid through.

According to Palestinian medical sources, more than 500 people have been killed in Gaza and some 2,500 wounded since the Israeli military operation began 10 days ago. These figures cannot be independently verified.

Five Israelis have been killed.

'Mainly civilians'

There were reports of fierce fighting in northern Gaza as news began to emerge of the scale of the problems facing medical staff in the territory.
   

Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert, one of two foreign doctors working at Gaza's biggest hospital, al-Shifa, said they had received a "new wave" of very serious injuries on Monday.

"We have many amputations, head injuries, and of course for a hospital in this situation... it's extremely difficult to handle," he told the BBC.

He warned that the hospital would be unable to operate much longer unless it received fresh medical supplies.

"People are dying now because of lack of supplies. We have all operating rooms full. Yesterday we were operating on two patients in one operating room... This is a complete disaster".

Israel has insisted that it is not targeting civilians and accuses Hamas of using civilians as human shields by operating in densely populated areas.

But Dr Gilbert said the overwhelming majority of casualties he had treated were civilians.

"Among all the hundreds we have seen so far, we have seen two fighters," he said.

He said that women and children alone made up 25% of the death toll, and 45% of the wounded.

Civilians on the move

The Israeli army said it had hit 40 targets in the Gaza Strip on Monday, including several tunnels and the homes of a number of Hamas officials.
    One million people are without electricity. Crucially the hospitals in Gaza are running on emergency generators - this in my book amounts to a humanitarian crisis
UN spokesman Christopher Gunness


But information about what is happening is limited as Israel has barred foreign reporters from entering Gaza.

Fighting was reported around Beit Hanoun and Jabaliya, and Gaza city itself - a little further south - was said to have been encircled.

The BBC's Hamada Abu Qammar in Gaza said residents on the edges of Gaza City were heading into the city centre seeking safe places away from the fighting.

Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said Hamas had suffered a "hard blow" but insisted the offensive in Gaza would continue.

"We still haven't reached our objectives," Mr Barak told Israeli MPs.

The top Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip, Mahmud Zahar, told Palestinians in a televised address that they were headed for "victory" against Israel.

Israelis "have legitimised the murder of their own children by killing the children of Palestine", he said.

The Israeli army said Palestinian militants had fired 20 missiles into southern Israel on Monday.

Humanitarian crisis

For the people of Gaza, living conditions are deteriorating sharply. Supplies of fuel, food, water, and wheat are said to be running desperately low.


Middle East envoy Tony Blair: 'We want an immediate ceasefire'

A spokesman for Unrwa, the UN aid agency for the Palestinians, said food was urgently needed and people were facing "serious hunger", with supplies for just 48 hours.

"One million people are without electricity. Crucially the hospitals in Gaza are running on emergency generators. This in my book amounts to a humanitarian crisis," Christopher Gunness told the BBC.

Israel said it had allowed a convoy of 80 lorries carrying food and medicines through Gaza's southern frontier.

Away from the front line, diplomatic efforts to halt the fighting in the Gaza Strip have been moving into high gear.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy held talks with Palestinian leaders in the West Bank town of Ramallah at the start of a series of meetings across the Middle East.

In remarks broadcast on French radio, he "condemned" the Israeli ground offensive but said Hamas had also "acted in an irresponsible and unforgivable manner" by ending a six-month ceasefire with Israel and resuming firing rockets.
   

US President George W Bush also blamed the current situation on Hamas militants and said he understood "Israel's desire to protect itself".

An EU delegation held talks with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni in Jerusalem, calling for a "cease-fire at the earliest possible moment".

But Ms Livni appeared to rebuff the call, saying: "When Israel is being targeted, Israel is going to retaliate."

"Israel is going to give an answer to it because this is an ongoing, long battle, war, against terror."

At the United Nations in New York, Arab ministers are pushing for a resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is expected to attend a meeting of the UN Security Council on Tuesday to discuss the situation.
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« Reply #1276 on: January 05, 2009, 08:52:49 PM »

Map of Israeli expansion         
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"How does a defensive action result in the total conquest of someone else's lands? The answer is that it does not. Israel is the aggressor. The maps of Israel then and now prove it.

Stop buying into what Sharon claims Israel "has to do" and look at what Israel has actually done. The maps tell the story of a nation eager to conquer lands which do not belong to it.

Israel has invaded virtually every nation it shares borders with, including Syria and Lebanon, and as the map above shows has almost conquered Palestine and is ready to "ethnically cleanse" the region. Far from being the poor victimized society desperately defending itself Israel likes to pretend it is in order to wrest more money from Americans, Israel is in fact the most militarily aggressive nation in the region.

Israel has ALWAYS portrayed non-Israelis as animals, in order to make it easier for the American tax payers who pay for the weapons accept their killing. And Israel has always resorted to staged terror bombings to further its agenda, such as the Lavon affair and more recently when a supposed suicide bomber turned out to be a known Israeli collaborator. In one recent case photos showed that what was reported as a suicide bomb in Jerusalem was actually a car bomb "

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« Reply #1277 on: January 06, 2009, 04:20:44 AM »

Video: Unconventional weapons used against Gazans

Akram al-Sattari, Press TV
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m50425&hd=&size=1&l=e


Jan 5, 2009

Dr. Gilbert confirms Dense Inert Metal Explosive are being used on Palestinians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSxdvkKoSC4&eurl=http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m50425&hd=&size=1&l=e

Doctor Mads Gilbert is a member of a Norwegian triage medical team present in the besieged Gaza Strip. The team has exposed that Israel has used depleted uranium weapons in its war on the impoverished territory which is home to 1.5 million Palestinians. He described the conditions inside Gaza in an exclusive Press TV interview.

Press TV: What can you tell about the uranium findings?

Dr. Mads Gilbert:The findings about the uranium I cannot tell you much about, but I can tell you that we have clear evidence that the Israelis are using a new type of very high explosive weapons which are called Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME) and are made out of a tungsten alloy.

These weapons have an enormous power to explode.

The power of the explosion dissipates very quickly and the strength does not travel long, maybe 10 meters, but those humans who are hit by this explosion, this pressure wave are cut in pieces.

This was first used in Lebanon in 2006, it was used here in Gaza in 2006 and the injuries that we see in Shifa [Hospital] now, many many of them I suspect and we all suspect are the effect of DIME weapons used by the Israelis.

On the long term, these weapons will have a cancer effect on those who survive. They will develop cancer we suspect. There has been very little research on this but some research has been among other places in the United States, which show that these weapons have a high tendency to develop cancer. So they kill and those who survive risk having cancer.

Press TV: And what do you have to say about this?

Dr. Mads Gilbert:All that is happening in Gaza here now is against international law, it is against humanity and I think it is against what it means to be a decent person. You don't treat other people like this. Even if you disagree with him… maybe even if you fight with them, you don't treat civilians, children and women like this.

And I have an appeal to the Israeli doctors and nurses. They are my colleagues. We belong to the same international community, the medical community. I wish that the good doctors and nurses in Israel tell their government to stop these atrocities. We cannot continue with this. We may differ in opinions, but you cannot treat the civilian Palestinian population in Gaza in this way.

Today, they were bombing in Gaza City; we received 150 wounded and more than 50 killed.

Press TV: Only at Shifa?!

Dr. Mads Gilbert:Yes, here in Shifa. I treated a ten-year-old boy. He had his whole chest filled with fragments from the bomb. On his lap was another person's leg that had been cut off. We resuscitated him and did everything we could do to save his life but he died between our hands.

This is such a terrible experience and behind the numbers that you report all the time, there are human beings, families, women, grandmothers, children. That is in fact the reality in this situation. Those who are paying the price for the Israeli bombardments now are the common people, the Palestinian people.

Half of the population in Palestine are below 15 years and 80 percent of the people in Gaza live below the level of poverty defined by the UN. Now they don't have food, they don't have electricity. It's cold they don't have warmth and in addition to that, they are killed.

This must be stopped.

Press TV How many people did you see that are effected by this weapon?

Dr. Mads Gilbert: Almost all of the patients we have received have these sever amputations. They seem to have been affected by this kind of weapon. Of course, we have many fragment injuries and burns but those who have got their limbs cut off, constitutes quite a large proportion.

You know we have a lot to do. Palestinian doctors, nurses and paramedics do an incredibly heroic job to save their people. Doctor Eric and I are just a small drip in the ocean, but we learn from them. Unfortunately, we don't have the time to do research, we have to save lives, but this question should be researched by the international community.

 

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« Reply #1278 on: January 06, 2009, 04:23:47 AM »

Media blackout continues; no foreign journalists let into Gaza

Ma'an news

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m50441&hd=&size=1&l=e

Jan 6, 2009



Bethlehem - Ma’an/Agencies - Despite a 1 January decision to allow foreign journalists into Gaza, not one has been able to enter the area.

A petition was handed to the Israeli High Court by the Foreign Press Association in Israel, demanding that Israel cease their media blackout in Gaza, imposed since early November.

Israeli officials announced on New Year’s Day that they would allow eight journalists at a time into the Gaza Strip through the northern Erez crossing, "When it is open."

The crossing was open briefly when Israel allowed almost 250 Gazans holding foreign passports to leave the area, but denied access to the journalists wishing to enter the Strip. Israeli sources said officers at the crossing were too busy processing the Gazans leaving the area to work on allowing access to the foreign press.

A small handful of international journalists are currently in Gaza, having refused to leave the area despite Israeli warnings that the crossings would be closed and they would be unable to leave. Several international news agencies have hired local journalists to report from the area, since they are prohibited from leaving the area by Israel.

The foreign journalists who demanded access to the Gaza Strip are for the most part now reporting from the border area outside Gaza.

The FPA demanded that journalists be allowed into the area, and accused Israel of allowing reporters to cover only "one side" of the conflict.

The organization was responsible for compiling a list of journalists to be allowed into Gaza, and confirms that not one has been allowed in despite thorough security checks. The FPA will not make the names public until the journalists are safely in Gaza.
 
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« Reply #1279 on: January 06, 2009, 04:46:50 AM »

Major fightings begin in Gaza City
Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:34:40 GMT

 http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=80709&sectionid=351020202



A fierce battle has erupted in Gaza City as the Israeli army engages in heavy exchanges of fire with Hamas resistance fighters.

The fighting broke out in the vicinity of Gaza City on Monday for the first time since the Israeli military crossed over the border on Saturday, beginning an incursion into the costal sliver.

According to AFP, large explosions and heavy exchanges of fire rocked eastern neighborhoods of Gaza City, as attacks on the densely-populated strip continues for a tenth day.

The Israeli army has reportedly prepared to face strong resistance in the city.

At least 50 Israeli troops have been wounded in the Operation Cast Lead; one has been killed and five others are reported in serious conditions.

Meanwhile, some 551 Palestinians have lost their lives, and at least 2,790 others are wounded -- most of whom are civilians.

Despite international calls for an immediate halt to the ongoing crisis in Gaza, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said earlier Monday that the ground incursion would be continued until the objectives are reached.

"Hamas has suffered a very heavy blow, but we have yet to reach the goals we set for ourselves, so the operation continues. International talks are being held simultaneously," Barak said.

Tel Aviv says through its military campaign, it aims to force Hamas stop its rocket attacks on southern Israel.

Hamas, the democratically-elected government of the strip, is said to agree to stop its retaliatory attacks should Tel Aviv lift its 18-month blockade of the coastal sliver.

The Gaza Strip has been under an Israeli blockade since the Hamas movement won a majority in the 2006 Palestinian election and took control of the area in mid-June 2007.
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