***Israel initiates genocidal ground war into Gaza: 1,300 killed > 6,000 wounded

[Boubear]

Israeli Arabs ferment over IAF Gaza op

Following the IAF assault on Gaza, outbreaks of rioting were being reported in East Jerusalem Saturday.

Hundreds of Palestinians at the entrance to the Shoafat refugee camp were hurling rocks at police and Border Police forces, who were attempting to disperse the demonstration. On Salah-a-Din street in the city, dozens of protesters set garbage containers ablaze.

Earlier, several demonstrators were arrested after hurling rocks at police at the Flowers Gate in the Old City, and in the Muslim Quarter.

A police officer was hit by a private car and taken to Augusta Victoria Hospital in east Jerusalem Saturday afternoon. Police were investigating whether the officer was deliberately hit in an improvised terror attack avenging IAF actions in Gaza.

Meanwhile, the Higher Committee for Arab Citizens in Israel called on Israeli Arabs to hold protests against "Israeli aggression wherever it happens."

Israeli Arabs were holding protests in Umm al-Fahm, Nazareth, Tamra and Sakhnin according to Israel Radio.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230111718524&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

[OldSchool]

Looks like we didn't have to wait for the fuse in the middle east to finally be lit. Only a matter of time until either Hamas launches a huge response with their longer range missiles or Israel invades the strip with ground forces. There's a media blackout on this for some reason, I'm thinking the Israelis' jumped the gun. I see a spark between India and Pakistan on the horizon. TS is really gonna hit that fan now. Hasn't Israel been threatening to attack Lebanon again? They attacked Syria not that long ago and Syria hasn't responded as is their right. Could we see a response from Lebanon and Syria? Things could escalate very quickly here as we all know the entire middle east is a powder keg.

It almost looks like the globalists have set a fuse in many parts of the east. Their 'chaos' would reign supreme over there with multiple conflicts, all posing as a sacrificial smokescreen for more clandestine uphievals. All of this on the heels of the 150,000 strong assembly of Palestinians remembering Bhuto's assassination. I'm sure Lebanon will be in it soon. Just as soon as Israel crosses the border ISO Hezbollah factions. And although paltry in quantity, those 10 MiG 29's Russia gave them will come in handy right about now, eh?

[larsonstdoc]

Larson, we already gave Israel money for this offensive. We also gave them that new anti-missile system not too long ago. Russia gave Lebanon 10 migs recently as a gift and has decided to follow through with their deal to give Iran the S-300 anti-missile system (correct me if I'm wrong please), so Israel is running out of time on their ambitions to attack Iran, Syria, Lebanon and wipe out the whole Palestinian society. All paid for by the bankers. OH S**T, it just dawned on me. The Banksters funded both world wars, the govt. just gave them $8 trillion. This HAS to be where the money is going, another world war. It's so freakin obvious, next thing you know Obama will be assasinated by some guy who looks to be Iranian or Pakistani. Then Biden can call for a draft and declare war on either country, or even both. If you haven't prepared, you better hurry the hell up people. the brown stuff is gonna hit the fan and it won't be pretty.

thadividedsky,  I have the same problem.  I start typing and more stuff pops into my brain.  Yes, the bankers are on both sides of 90% of the wars.  YOU YOUNG PEOPLE, IF THERE IS A DRAFT SAY "HELL NO, I WON'T GO".  The NWO thrives on greed, money, hate, and war.  They can't fight wars without young people!

[thadividedsky]

I got this from another thread and feel it is related to the situation in Gaza due to Russia promising to support Palestine and sell S-300 Missile systems to Iran, Syria, Libya and Venezuela. Russia is an ally to Palestine, they will have something to say about this very soon. credit goes to Devotional Soul.
thread found here with more connections.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=77029.0


http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/35084

Moscow promises to support Palestine
Russia is ready to provide financial support to Palestine, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said. Lavrov made the announcement at a meeting with the President of the Palestinian National Authority Mahmoud Abbas in Moscow. Lavrov also said that Russia was fully supportive of Abbas's policy in the Middle East.

It has been eight months since Mahmoud Abbas last visited Moscow, and in that period his political challenges have changed dramatically. Back in April he was hoping for the best, and now he is trying to avert the worst.

Air strikes, funerals, and vows to fight the enemy - the bloody circle continues as Hamas abandons a ceasefire, while contenders for Israel’s highest office promise to topple the Gaza leadership. The fragile peace process is once again on the brink of collapse.

Russia is a member of the ‘Quartet’ – along with the U.S., EU, and the UN – that seeks to broker peace in the Middle East. However, unlike other Quartet members, Russia recognises the legitimacy of Hamas, the Islamic party that controls the Gaza Strip. Moscow maintains ties with both Hamas and its rival party Fatah.

Nevertheless, the Russian Foreign Minister stressed Russia’s support for Abbas and called on all the parties to exercise restraint.

Speaking at a joint media conference, Sergey Lavrov said:

“The Russian government supports Mahmoud Abbas as the leader of Palestine in a variety of areas. First and foremost, this concerns the security efforts deployed by the Palestinian government. We are also ready to encourage co-operation in investment.”

The Palestinian leader responded by saying that he hoped “the upcoming Moscow conference on the Middle East will lay a good foundation towards peace in the region”.

”I want to say that we highly value Russia's role in the peace process,” Mahmoud Abbas added.

Abbas has also met with President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. The Russian and the Palestinian leaders discussed ways to co-operate on peace in the Middle East.

Medvedev thanked the Palestinian leader for visiting the Russian internal republic of Chechnya, and expressed hopes that more leaders would come to the region to witness the transformation of the area. Abbas also met with its president Ramzan Kadyrov and visited the tomb of his slain father Akhmat Kadyrov.

Abbas has become the first Arabic leader to visit Chechnya after the 1990s armed conflict in the North Caucasian region, when some forces in the Islamic world openly supported Chechen militants. Hosting an Arab leader in Chechnya means a lot for the Kremlin, which has long maintained Chechen militants were supported by Islamic terrorist networks.

“This is not your first time in Russia but recently the geography of your trips has widened - you’ve visited the city of Grozny in Chechnya. We think that’s very useful,” Medvedev said.

Now almost completely rebuilt, a decade ago Chechnya seemed as far away from peace as Palestine is now. Abbas even hinted the Chechen example may come in handy. “We had a chance to familiarise ourselves with the experience of the Chechen leadership both in political and social issues,” Abbas said.

Earlier on Monday, Abbas was honoured by Russia's Muslim leaders for his contribution in bringing peace to the region.

This is likely to be the last foreign visit for the Palestinian leader, whose term in office ends next month.

[Boubear]

((This could get worse))

Report: Iran preps humanitarian aid ship to Gaza Strip
By Haaretz Service
Tags: Gaza Strip, Iran

An Iranian freighter carrying tons of humanitarian equipment destined for the Gaza Strip will set sail from the Islamic Republic on Saturday, Iranian media reported on Friday.

The Iranian Red Crescent Society organized the shipment which it says will reach the Gaza shoreline in defiance of the Israeli military blockade imposed on the territory since Hamas' ascendancy to power.

"The ship will carry medicine and foodstuffs including rice, flour, sugar as well as six tons of medicine for the impoverished population of Gaza," said Hamed Taheri Jebelli, a spokesman for Iran's Red Crescent Society on Thursday.

"Despite the Zionist regime's opposition ... this consignment will leave Bandar Abbas for Palestine on Saturday and will arrive in 12 days," a provincial Red Crescent director, Ahmad Navvab, was quoted as telling the French news agency AFP.

"The cargo contains over 2,000 tons of food, medicine and appliances and it will be accompanied by 12 Iranian doctors and relief workers," he told AFP.

Earlier this month, the Red Crescent said it aimed to send a 1,000-ton shipment of grain, sugar, oil and medicine to the aid-dependent land.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050377.html

[ConcordeWarrior]

I hate tzipi livni she is such a mean woman! 

[OldSchool]

  Israel launches air strikes on Gaza AP 

 BBC JERUSALEM (AFP) – Israel vowed on Saturday to keep up deadly air strikes on Hamas-run Gaza Strip for "as long as necessary," saying it has "no other option" than a military operation on the Palestinian enclave to stop rocket fire.

"The operation will go on and be intensified as long as necessary," Defence Minister Ehud Barak said after Saturday's attacks, which Gaza emergency services say killed nearly 200 Palestinians.

"The battle will be long and difficult, but the time has come to act and to fight," he said in a televised news conference.

Barak said more than 150 Hamas fighters had been killed or wounded during the massive bombardment.

"We are not enthusiastic about the idea of confrontation, but we are ready for it. For months we have been preparing to hit hard at Hamas so that it stops its attacks against Israeli civilians," he said.

"This will not be easy and will take time. War against terror takes time," he said.

Massive Israeli air strikes, which saw some 60 warplanes bombard the overcrowded territory of 1.5 million people, killed 195 Palestinians, wounding some 300 others.

Speaking earlier to reporters, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said that "Israeli citizens have been under the threat of daily attack from Gaza for years.

"Only this week -- hundreds of missiles and mortars shells were fired at Israeli civilian communities including the firing of 80 missiles on a single day.

"Until now we have shown restraint. But today there is no other option than a military operation. We need to protect our citizens from attack through a military response against the terror infrastructure in Gaza.

"This is the translation of our basic right to self defence."

"Israel expects the support and understanding of the international community, as it confronts terror, and advances the interest of all those who wish the forces of peace and co-existence to determine the agenda of this region."

[nofakenews]

Death Toll Hits 200
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473145,00.html


Graphic Photos
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,6118,00.html

[goetface]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – Israeli warplanes retaliating for rocket fire from the Gaza Strip pounded dozens of security compounds across the Hamas-ruled territory in unprecedented waves of airstrikes Saturday, killing more than 200 people and wounding nearly 400 in the single bloodiest day of fighting in years.

Most of those killed were security men, but an unknown number of civilians were also among the dead. Hamas said all of its security installations were hit, threatened to resume suicide attacks, and sent at least 70 rockets and mortar shells crashing into Israeli border communities, according to the Israeli military. One Israeli was killed and at least six people were hurt.

With so many wounded, the Palestinian death toll was likely to rise.

The strikes caused widespread panic and confusion in Gaza, as black clouds of smoke rose above the territory, ruled by Hamas for the past 18 months. Some of the Israeli missiles struck in densely populated areas as children were leaving school, and women rushed into the streets frantically looking for their children.

[Avers]

Aren't these kind of reactions just disgusting?:

White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe called on Hamas to cease its rocket attacks on Israel and urged Israel "to avoid civilian casualties as it targets Hamas in Gaza."
(source: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/27/gaza.israel.strikes/index.html)

Freely translated: "Bomb them to hell and back, just try (not too hard obviously) to avoid situations which other countries may weakly object against".
No mention at all to cease any hostilities, so it might as well be a blessing to Israel to please continue with their mass murder. Besides that, I'm extremely pissed off that the Dutch foreign minister Verhagen (Bilderberg attendee, so not too surprised) has paroted the exact same statement a short while ago.

Not to mention my disgust at seeing any Israeli official doing their best to make it seem as if they are the victim...

[Triadtropz]

In Israels defense?..they did tell them to stop shooting the rockets...for 3 days..

[Capt. Obvious]

apparently it's only "terrorism" if you aren't the ones in power

[Triadtropz]

apparently it's only "terrorism" if you aren't the ones in power

they are both terrorists...I hope someone runs the israelis into the sea..love thy neighbor..pleeze

[Donald Baker]

So if Mexico started lobbing rockets and missiles into Texas on a daily basis for months on end, and the United States, after warning them time and time again to stop, finally decides to do something about it in the form of air strikes, Mexico becomes the victim?  If you guys were living on the border of Texas where those rockets were pounding on your neighborhood, would you not be expecting the USAF to make it stop?

Please tell me why Israel is in the wrong here?  The targets they are hitting are strategically located in civilian areas, and civilians are aiding the Hamas rocketeers.  Gaza is a very small enclave packed with 1.5 million people.  What's Israel supposed to do?  Collateral damage is likely to happen in such dense conditions, but they MUST stop the rocket attacks.  Can Israel respond in a greater measure than Hamas?  Yes, and thank God they can because if the roles were reversed, Hamas would annihilate Israel at first opportunity.

[master S]

I'm not surprised, Isreal probably gave Hamas some radically impossible requirements, and Hamas said no... and now Isreal is punishing them for not doing the (deliberately) impossible things they demanded of them.

Isreal is nothing but a petty tyrannical hegemony. I hope Hamas bombs the living you-know-what out of Isreal. Time to start aiming for some government headquarters, bubs.

Glad to see all the support for Palestinians on this forum. Shows you guys have minds and hearts.  Just some background info. I too have always wondered why Hamas can't strike sensitve Israeli targets as a pretext for real bargaining power.  Look at it's history. Hamas was started from seed money given to it by the Iraeli government, specifically Ariel Sharon inthe early 80's.  While the service sector of Hamas is legit, I believe the militant side is co-opted by Israel as a foil.  If you look at the tactics used by Hamas during the height of suicide bombings, you wll see the hand of Israel. What the Palestininians need is a real organized mass movement. yet that is difficult considering their real leaders (Marwan Bharghouti et.al.) are jailed mainly during election time.

[master S]

So if Mexico started lobbing rockets and missiles into Texas on a daily basis for months on end, and the United States, after warning them time and time again to stop, finally decides to do something about it in the form of air strikes, Mexico becomes the victim?  If you guys were living on the border of Texas where those rockets were pounding on your neighborhood, would you not be expecting the USAF to make it stop?

Please tell me why Israel is in the wrong here?  The targets they are hitting are strategically located in civilian areas, and civilians are aiding the Hamas rocketeers.  Gaza is a very small enclave packed with 1.5 million people.  What's Israel supposed to do?  Collateral damage is likely to happen in such dense conditions, but they MUST stop the rocket attacks.  Can Israel respond in a greater measure than Hamas?  Yes, and thank God they can because if the roles were reversed, Hamas would annihilate Israel at first opportunity.

Hey troll get your head out of your rectum and see things more than one dimensionally! MORON.

[Capt. Obvious]

So if Mexico started lobbing rockets and missiles into Texas on a daily basis for months on end, and the United States, after warning them time and time again to stop, finally decides to do something about it in the form of air strikes, Mexico becomes the victim?  If you guys were living on the border of Texas where those rockets were pounding on your neighborhood, would you not be expecting the USAF to make it stop?

Please tell me why Israel is in the wrong here?  The targets they are hitting are strategically located in civilian areas, and civilians are aiding the Hamas rocketeers.  Gaza is a very small enclave packed with 1.5 million people.  What's Israel supposed to do?  Collateral damage is likely to happen in such dense conditions, but they MUST stop the rocket attacks.  Can Israel respond in a greater measure than Hamas?  Yes, and thank God they can because if the roles were reversed, Hamas would annihilate Israel at first opportunity.

Well, first, no one was reported to be killed by the rockets from Gaza. Second, if I start shooting at your house with a 22, should you send it an air strike and kill everyone on my block? Would my neighbors not be victims?

It will never work for Israel to take out Hamas if there is such high levels of collateral damage. No one is going to accept their mother or kid being killed because some guy in the building next door launched something. The hostilities will never stop.

[Donald Baker]

Hey troll get your head out of your rectum and see things more than one dimensionally! MORON.

Now where is a moderator when you need him?

[Donald Baker]

Well, first, no one was reported to be killed by the rockets from Gaza. Second, if I start shooting at your house with a 22, should you send it an air strike and kill everyone on my block? Would my neighbors not be victims?

It will never work for Israel to take out Hamas if there is such high levels of collateral damage. No one is going to accept their mother or kid being killed because some guy in the building next door launched something. The hostilities will never stop.

If Hamas had stopped firing the rockets, this all could have been avoided.  Israel is not the bad guy here.  They have shown restraint every time.  Especially when Saddam was lobbing Scuds on them during the Gulf War.  Israel is tired of being targeted by ongoing rocket strikes.  Jeez!  How hard is this to comprehend?

[voodo0]

 

Hey troll get your head out of your rectum and see things more than one dimensionally! MORON.

[Triadtropz]

Please tell me why Israel is in the wrong here?  The targets they are hitting are strategically located in civilian areas, and civilians are aiding the Hamas

maybe they could go in and arrest them?..dude they are slaughtering people with advanced weapons, over a few errant rockets...where are they in the wrong..cmon.

[Capt. Obvious]

If Hamas had stopped firing the rockets, this all could have been avoided.  Israel is not the bad guy here.  They have shown restraint every time.  Especially when Saddam was lobbing Scuds on them during the Gulf War.  Israel is tired of being targeted by ongoing rocket strikes.  Jeez!  How hard is this to comprehend?

"They have shown restraint every time"

Obviously not! Look, this has been going on for years. It didn't start with the recent rocket launches from Gaza. You could argue that they were reacting to Israel. They are both bad guys. That is what you must comprehend. Neither is "in the right" and you need to comprehend that giving Israel the pass of reacting this way does not help the situation.

[Donald Baker]

"They have shown restraint every time"

Obviously not! Look, this has been going on for years. It didn't start with the recent rocket launches from Gaza. You could argue that they were reacting to Israel. They are both bad guys. That is what you must comprehend. Neither is "in the right" and you need to comprehend that giving Israel the pass of reacting this way does not help the situation.

Israel has a right to protect it's citizens from attack just like India has a right to protect its citizens.  Gaza is not a nation, it is a territory with some autonomy, but is apparently ruled by lawless Hamas thugs.  The suffering that the Palestinian people are experiencing is at the hands of their Hamas handlers who do not want peace with Israel, but only its destruction.  This attitude prevents the Palestinians from receiving a state of their own because Israel cannot trust a Palestinian state with sovereign access to military power since they cannot handle the autonomy they have responsibly.  Palestine will never be until they learn to co-exist with Israel in peace, and this will never happen so long as Hamas and Islamic Jihad brainwash the Palestinian masses with their corrupted version of Islam....period.

[Triadtropz]

the israelis treat them like less than dogs, they deny them basics like food, and medicine, while they live in gated communities,..on some land they grabbed. there will never be peace there.

[Donald Baker]

the israelis treat them like less than dogs, they deny them basics like food, and medicine, while they live in gated communities,..on some land they grabbed. there will never be peace there.

I understand that Israel deals heavy handedly with the Palestinians, but what else can they do with them?  The Jordanians kicked them out when Yasser Arafat tried to overthrow the Hashemite kingdom back in the 1970's so the Arabs don't want to take them in so they are compelled to live in limbo without a state of their own (albeit Israel is negotiating away land they won fair and square to give them a nation of their own).  I don't see Jordan parceling any land to them (as they should since the Palestinians are Jordanians ethnically anyway).  But with suicide bombers, daily rocket attacks, and statements calling for the destruction of Israel, I am not at all shocked that Israeli people harbor hatred for Palestinians.  I mean the Palestinians are practically begging the Israelis to hate them by their very actions.  Human nature is what it is.  Still, Shimon Peres and Yitzak Rabin have tried to negotiate with them usually with one sided deals where the Palestinians get land and money in exchange for a promise not to do Israel harm.  Still that is not enough for the likes of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.  They want all of Israel and will accept nothing less.

[bethanne]

back on topic, ive been watching the news for over an hour. and havent seen this reported?...whats up with that..talk about downplaying..

I'm thinking the same thing..........mainstream media is ignoring it

[Donald Baker]

maybe they could go in and arrest them?..dude they are slaughtering people with advanced weapons, over a few errant rockets...where are they in the wrong..cmon.

Would you want to go into Gaza on foot and try to arrest militants who are heroes to 1.5 million Palestinians in a land area the size of a few U.S. counties?  You're a braver man than I. 

[dkwannabe]

back on topic, ive been watching the news for over an hour. and havent seen this reported?...whats up with that..talk about downplaying..

Check it out here. http://www.presstv.ir/watch_live.aspx  <---live stream of news

Of course our news won't cover it....

Man...this is bad.

[Pheonix Renewed]

So if Mexico started lobbing rockets and missiles into Texas on a daily basis for months on end, and the United States, after warning them time and time again to stop, finally decides to do something about it in the form of air strikes, Mexico becomes the victim?  If you guys were living on the border of Texas where those rockets were pounding on your neighborhood, would you not be expecting the USAF to make it stop?

Please tell me why Israel is in the wrong here?  The targets they are hitting are strategically located in civilian areas, and civilians are aiding the Hamas rocketeers.  Gaza is a very small enclave packed with 1.5 million people.  What's Israel supposed to do?  Collateral damage is likely to happen in such dense conditions, but they MUST stop the rocket attacks.  Can Israel respond in a greater measure than Hamas?  Yes, and thank God they can because if the roles were reversed, Hamas would annihilate Israel at first opportunity.

Remember to preface that with the fact that Isreal invaded their country and stole it, and then have been starving people and keeping them from getting aid for months now. That might make you start lobbing some missiles, too. Nice American-style "can't remember past yesterday" memory ya got there, bubbo.

[Donald Baker]

Remember to preface that with the fact that Isreal invaded their country and stole it, and then have been starving people and keeping them from getting aid for months now. That might make you start lobbing some missiles, too. Nice American-style "can't remember past yesterday" memory ya got there, bubbo.

Sorry Palestinians didn't exist until Yasser Arafat began calling his Jordanian followers such.  Jews were granted a section of the land via the Balfour Declaration and were recognized as a state by the USSR before anyone else did in 1948.  Sorry fella, I'm a History grad student, I know the past yesterday very well.

[Devotional Soul]

Sending prayers for the innocent people...

[Pheonix Renewed]

Sorry Palestinians didn't exist until Yasser Arafat began calling his Jordanian followers such.  Jews were granted a section of the land via the Balfour Declaration and were recognized as a state by the USSR before anyone else did in 1948.  Sorry fella, I'm a History grad student, I know the past yesterday very well.

You need to do a little more research on what the truth is. Those who "gave" that region to Isreal had no ownership of it. With respect, stop listening to the history you are given by the victors, and start learning some truth. You ARE, after all, on a TRUTH forum, so spouting the party line that they taught you in the indoctrination centers doesn't really help your case here. No one who "gave" the Jews "a homeland" had any authority to give that land away. It wasn't theirs. That's like me giving you my neighbor's house and my neighbors getting pissed off, so you starve them to death and then their kids attack you, and you cry like a little baby because "it's MY F**KING HOUSE, YOUR NEIGHBOR SAID I COULD HAVE IT!"

The official US supported version of history leaves a lot to be desired. Time for you to bone up so you don't make yourself look foolish by sporting the standard state created fantasy version of "history."

[bethanne]

Check it out here. http://www.presstv.ir/watch_live.aspx  <---live stream of news

Of course our news won't cover it....

Man...this is bad.

Thanks for the link!

[bethanne]

You need to do a little more research on what the truth is. Those who "gave" that region to Isreal had no ownership of it. With respect, stop listening to the history you are given by the victors, and start learning some truth. You ARE, after all, on a TRUTH forum, so spouting the party line that they taught you in the indoctrination centers doesn't really help your case here. No one who "gave" the Jews "a homeland" had any authority to give that land away. It wasn't theirs. That's like me giving you my neighbor's house and my neighbors getting pissed off, so you starve them to death and then their kids attack you, and you cry like a little baby because "it's MY F**KING HOUSE, YOUR NEIGHBOR SAID I COULD HAVE IT!"

The official US supported version of history leaves a lot to be desired. Time for you to bone up so you don't make yourself look foolish by sporting the standard state created fantasy version of "history."

And you could use a little research into scripture and the origin of Israel

[Biggs]

the Megaphonie retards are out in force today on the net, they must have sent round a Megaphonie appeal/alert to all the megaphonie Zionist dickheads, the internet is filled with them today, all over, quite disgusting

shows the coordination of military force and the psychological operations that are intended to cloud the truth and confuse the enemy (which as defined by the Pentagon and Mossad is not only hamas or women/childrenb or whoever they want to kill, but of course the 'enemy' is also the free thinking people on the internet - this is officially acknowledged in their public literature - there was a long thread on this very topic recently)

[xTruthSeekerx]

I understand that Israel deals heavy handedly with the Palestinians, but what else can they do with them?  The Jordanians kicked them out when Yasser Arafat tried to overthrow the Hashemite kingdom back in the 1970's so the Arabs don't want to take them in so they are compelled to live in limbo without a state of their own (albeit Israel is negotiating away land they won fair and square to give them a nation of their own).  I don't see Jordan parceling any land to them (as they should since the Palestinians are Jordanians ethnically anyway).  But with suicide bombers, daily rocket attacks, and statements calling for the destruction of Israel, I am not at all shocked that Israeli people harbor hatred for Palestinians.  I mean the Palestinians are practically begging the Israelis to hate them by their very actions.  Human nature is what it is.  Still, Shimon Peres and Yitzak Rabin have tried to negotiate with them usually with one sided deals where the Palestinians get land and money in exchange for a promise not to do Israel harm.  Still that is not enough for the likes of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.  They want all of Israel and will accept nothing less.

oh boy isreal is not jewish it is ZIONIST it is not the biblical holy land people

[Biggs]

IDF amasses forces near Gaza ahead of possible ground op.
By YAAKOV KATZ AND JPOST.COM STAFF Print   Subscribe   

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230111718610&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

The IDF was beefing up forces around the Gaza Strip on Saturday evening in preparation of a possible ground operation following a massive air assault earlier in the day.

Barak says 'now is the time to fight'; Livni explains Israel's stance to Int'l community

Defense Minister Ehud Barak and IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi were holding consultations on the army's next course of action.

Defense officials estimated that Hamas was capable of firing 150-200 rockets a day, adding that the operation could last for weeks.

Israel's goals, officials added, was to end Hamas rocket fire, end smuggling of arms into Gaza and severely disrupt any Hamas military activity.

[bethanne]

oh boy isreal is not jewish it is ZIONIST it is not the biblical holy land people

Israel as it is now is secular, yes. But the origins of the jews and what is going on with Israel will become clearer as time goes on here. God is not done with her.

[xTruthSeekerx]

Israel as it is now is secular, yes. But the origins of the jews and what is going on with Israel will become clearer as time goes on here. God is not done with her.

wonder who the whore of babylon is, us or them =\

[Pheonix Renewed]

And you could use a little research into scripture and the origin of Israel

Oh yes, this is how we have gotten to the place where Isreal can do no wrong. Their holy book and the holy book of the Christians claim that the Isrealites are "given" this land by "god," therefor the Isrealites can murder, slaughter, starve, and otherwise commit genocide in order to "claim" it, simple as that. Even the Bible admits it was never their land, they've just been claiming for a few thousand years that God said they could have it and therefor no atrocity is too great to commit in the aquisition of it. More evil in the name of the bible, no atrocity is too terrible for your god, is it.