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Author Topic: Any immediate alternatives to avoid fluoridated water?  (Read 8902 times)
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« on: April 25, 2011, 11:14:30 AM »

As a college student with mostly no spare cash laying around for Berkey Water filters or Reverse Osmosis Machines I find myself at a dead end. Are there any solutions that I can try right now that will allow me to at least drink non fluoridated water? Research I've done myself all lead to the same result(filter your own water), which would require about a month of money savings and a month more of drinking poison.

Are there any bottled water products that are safe to drink for example? I find it hard to spread the word about fluoride and have the only solution being spend $100-$200+ on a water filters.
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 04:10:56 PM »

Guess not
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 04:13:33 PM »

a water distiller is cheap.  ya can even make one yerself with pots and pans.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 04:45:33 PM »

Look for bottled brands that advertise they are from natural (non-fluoridated) sources, duh. As one site puts it, "check the bottle label and even the cap -- if it says "from a municipal source" or "from a community water system" this means it's derived from tap water. Again, you can call the bottler, or the bottled water program in your state or the state where it was packaged."
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 05:29:52 PM »

Maybe spring water, and as local as possible.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 05:38:02 PM »


Tap water really is awful stuff. The amount of contaminants that we absorb through our skin and inhale into our lungs while bathing is horrific.
When you look at the list below; think about all the tap water that domestic pets (dogs and cats) consume over their lifetimes. It is no wonder that cancer, neurodegenerative and autoimmune diseases are exploding in our pet population.

A good filter is a valuable investment.

Drinking Water Contaminants (from the FDA website)

DISINFECTION BYPRODUCTS

Bromate - Increased risk of cancer
 Byproduct of drinking water disinfection
 
Chlorite - Anemia; infants & young children: nervous system effects
 Byproduct of drinking water disinfection
 
Haloacetic acids - Increased risk of cancer
 Byproduct of drinking water disinfection
 
Trihalomethanes - Liver, kidney or central nervous system problems; increased risk of cancer
 Byproduct of drinking water disinfection
 
Chloramines - Eye/nose irritation; stomach discomfort, anemia
 Water additive used to control microbes
 
Chlorine - Eye/nose irritation; stomach discomfort
 Water additive used to control microbes
 
Chlorine dioxide - Anemia; infants & young children: nervous system effects
 Water additive used to control microbes
 
INORGANIC CHEMICALS

Antimony - Increase in blood cholesterol; decrease in blood sugar
 Discharge from petroleum refineries; fire retardants; ceramics; electronics; solder
 
Arsenic - Skin damage or problems with circulatory systems, and may have increased risk of getting cancer
 Erosion of natural deposits; runoff from orchards, runoff from glass & electronicsproduction wastes
 
Asbestos - Increased risk of developing benign intestinal polyps
 Decay of asbestos cement in water mains; erosion of natural deposits
 
Barium  - Increase in blood pressure
 Discharge of drilling wastes; discharge from metal refineries; erosion of natural deposits
 
Beryllium - Intestinal lesions
 Discharge from metal refineries and coal-burning factories; discharge from electrical, aerospace, and defense industries
 
Cadmium - Kidney damage
 Corrosion of galvanized pipes; erosion of natural deposits; discharge from metal refineries; runoff from waste batteries and paints
 
Chromium - Allergic dermatitis
 Discharge from steel and pulp mills; erosion of natural deposits
 
Copper - Short term exposure: Gastrointestinal distress Long term exposure: Liver or kidney damage

People with Wilson's Disease should consult their personal doctor if the amount of copper in their water exceeds the action level
 Corrosion of household plumbing systems; erosion of natural deposits
 
Cyanide - Nerve damage or thyroid problems
 Discharge from steel/metal factories; discharge from plastic and fertilizer factories
 
Fluoride - Bone disease (pain and tenderness of the bones); Children may get mottled teeth
 Water additive which promotes strong teeth; erosion of natural deposits; discharge from fertilizer and aluminum factories
 
Lead - Infants and children: Delays in physical or mental development; children could show slight deficits in attention span and learning abilitiesAdults: Kidney problems; high blood pressure
 Corrosion of household plumbing systems; erosion of natural deposits
 
Mercury (inorganic) - Kidney damage
 Erosion of natural deposits; discharge from refineries and factories; runoff from landfills and croplands
 
Nitrate (measured as Nitrogen) - Infants below the age of six months who drink water containing nitrate in excess of the MCL could become seriously ill and, if untreated, may die. Symptoms include shortness of breath and blue-baby syndrome.
 Runoff from fertilizer use; leaching from septic tanks, sewage; erosion of natural deposits
 
Nitrite (measured as Nitrogen) - Infants below the age of six months who drink water containing nitrite in excess of the MCL could become seriously ill and, if untreated, may die. Symptoms include shortness of breath and blue-baby syndrome.
 Runoff from fertilizer use; leaching from septic tanks, sewage; erosion of natural deposits
 
Selenium - Hair or fingernail loss; numbness in fingers or toes; circulatory problems
 Discharge from petroleum refineries; erosion of natural deposits; discharge from mines
 
Thallium - Hair loss; changes in blood; kidney, intestine, or liver problems
 Leaching from ore-processing sites; discharge from electronics, glass, and drug factories
 
ORGANIC CHEMICALS


Acrylamide - Nervous system or blood problems; increased risk of cancer
 Added to water during sewage/wastewater treatment
 
Alachlor - Eye, liver, kidney or spleen problems; anemia; increased risk of cancer
 Runoff from herbicide used on row crops
 
Atrazine - Cardiovascular system or reproductive problems
 Runoff from herbicide used on row crops
 
Benzene - Anemia; decrease in blood platelets; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from factories; leaching from gas storage tanks and landfills
 
Benzo(a)pyrene (PAHs) - Reproductive difficulties; increased risk of cancer
 Leaching from linings of water storage tanks and distribution lines
 
Carbofuran - Problems with blood, nervous system, or reproductive system
 Leaching of soil fumigant used on rice and alfalfa
 
Carbon tetrachloride - Liver problems; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from chemical plants and other industrial activities
 
Chlordane - Liver or nervous system problems; increased risk of cancer
 Residue of banned termiticide
 
Chlorobenzene - Liver or kidney problems
 Discharge from chemical and agricultural chemical factories
 
2,4-D - Kidney, liver, or adrenal gland problems
 Runoff from herbicide used on row crops
 
Dalapon  - Minor kidney changes
 Runoff from herbicide used on rights of way
 
1,2-Dibromo-3-chloropropane (DBCP) - Reproductive difficulties; increased risk of cancer
 Runoff/leaching from soil fumigant used on soybeans, cotton, pineapples, and orchards
 
o-Dichlorobenzene - Liver, kidney, or circulatory system problems
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
p-Dichlorobenzene - Anemia; liver, kidney or spleen damage; changes in blood
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
1,2-Dichloroethane - Increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
1,1-Dichloroethylene - Liver problems
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
cis-1,2-Dichloroethylene - Liver problems
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
trans-1,2-Dichloroethylene - Liver problems
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
Dichloromethane - Liver problems; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from drug and chemical factories
 
1,2-Dichloropropane - Increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
Di(2-ethylhexyl) - Weight loss, liver problems, or possible reproductive difficulties.
 Discharge from chemical factories
 
Di(2-ethylhexyl) phthalate - Reproductive difficulties; liver problems; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from rubber and chemical factories
 
Dinoseb - Reproductive difficulties
 Runoff from herbicide used on soybeans and vegetables
 
Dioxin (2,3,7,8-TCDD) - Reproductive difficulties; increased risk of cancer
 Emissions from waste incineration and other combustion; discharge from chemical factories
 
Diquat - Cataracts
 Runoff from herbicide use
 
Endothall - Stomach and intestinal problems
 Runoff from herbicide use
 
Endrin - Liver problems
 Residue of banned insecticide
 
Epichlorohydrin - Increased cancer risk, and over a long period of time, stomach problems
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories; an impurity of some water treatment chemicals
 
Ethylbenzene - Liver or kidneys problems
 Discharge from petroleum refineries
 
Ethylene dibromide - Problems with liver, stomach, reproductive system, or kidneys; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from petroleum refineries
 
Glyphosate - Kidney problems; reproductive difficulties
 Runoff from herbicide use
 
Heptachlor - Liver damage; increased risk of cancer
 Residue of banned termiticide
 
Heptachlor epoxide - Liver damage; increased risk of cancer
 Breakdown of heptachlor
 
Hexachlorobenzene - Liver or kidney problems; reproductive difficulties; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from metal refineries and agricultural chemical factories
 
Hexachlorocyclopentadiene - Kidney or stomach problems
 Discharge from chemical factories
 
Lindane - Liver or kidney problems
 Runoff/leaching from insecticide used on cattle, lumber, gardens
 
Methoxychlor - Reproductive difficulties
 Runoff/leaching from insecticide used on fruits, vegetables, alfalfa, livestock
 
Oxamyl (Vydate) - Slight nervous system effects
 Runoff/leaching from insecticide used on apples, potatoes, and tomatoes
 
Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) - Skin changes; thymus gland problems; immune deficiencies; reproductive or nervous system difficulties; increased risk of cancer
 Runoff from landfills; discharge of waste chemicals
 
Pentachlorophenol - Liver or kidney problems; increased cancer risk
 Discharge from wood preserving factories
 
Picloram - Liver problems
 Herbicide runoff
 
Simazine - Problems with blood
 Herbicide runoff
 
Styrene - Liver, kidney, or circulatory system problems
 Discharge from rubber and plastic factories; leaching from landfills
 
Tetrachloroethylene - Liver problems; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from factories and dry cleaners
 
Toluene - Nervous system, kidney, or liver problems
 Discharge from petroleum factories
 
Toxaphene - Kidney, liver, or thyroid problems; increased risk of cancer
 Runoff/leaching from insecticide used on cotton and cattle
 
2,4,5-TP (Silvex) - Liver problems
 Residue of banned herbicide
 
1,2,4-Trichlorobenzene - Changes in adrenal glands
 Discharge from textile finishing factories
 
1,1,1-Trichloroethane - Liver, nervous system, or circulatory problems
 Discharge from metal degreasing sites and other factories
 
1,1,2-Trichloroethane - Liver, kidney, or immune system problems
 Discharge from industrial chemical factories
 
Trichloroethylene - Liver problems; increased risk of cancer
 Discharge from metal degreasing sites and other factories
 
Vinyl chloride - Increased risk of cancer
 Leaching from PVC pipes; discharge from plastic factories
 
Xylenes (total) - Nervous system damage
 Discharge from petroleum factories; discharge from chemical factories

RADIONUCLIDES

Alpha particles - Increased risk of cancer
 Erosion of natural deposits of certain minerals that are radioactive and may emit a form of radiation known as alpha radiation
 
Beta particles and photon emitters - Increased risk of cancer
 Decay of natural and man-made deposits of certain minerals that are radioactive and may emit forms of radiation known as photons and beta radiation
 
Radium 226 and Radium 228 (combined) - Increased risk of cancer
 Erosion of natural deposits
 
Uranium  -  Increased risk of cancer, kidney toxicity Erosion of natural 


Drinking Water Contaminants
http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 05:53:02 PM »

If the global conspirators want total control, we can anticipate one diet for all of mankind, the perfect diet, and they'll be able to increase or decrease our nutrient/poison levels automatically, in real-time, thanks to the surveillance grid, nanochips and readers, and supercomputers that think for themselves.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 05:29:06 PM »

  Some recommend  Reverse osmosis,but   it seems it does not work because the  molecule  of fluoride ion  about the same as  water (in fact it is smaller)  If F   remains attached  to  Na, then it is  bigger but not much)   So if water   passes the filter, fluoride too. I guess the only way is by using  some compound  that binds to fluoride ion making  a bigger molecule unable to cross the filters.
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