Greek youths break into state TV center, take over

[David Rothscum]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D953THE80&show_article=1
ATHENS, Greece (AP) - Protesters forced their way into Greece's state NET television news studio Tuesday and interrupted a news broadcast featuring the prime minister so they could urge viewers to join mass anti-government demonstrations.

For more than a minute, about 10 youths blocked a broadcast showing a speech by Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis. Instead, they displayed banners reading: "Stop watching, get out onto the streets," and "Free everyone who has been arrested." No one was hurt, and no arrests were reported.

NET chairman Christos Panagopoulos claimed the protesters violently forced their way into the studio. "This goes beyond any limit," he said.

It was the latest twist in 11 days of riots and protests after a policeman shot and killed a 15-year-old boy on Dec. 6. The violent protests have evolved from being just aimed at Greek police to being highly critical of Karamanlis' conservative government.

Karamanlis has rejected mounting demands to resign and call new elections.

Earlier Tuesday, masked youths attacked riot police headquarters in Athens and protesters clashed with police in the northern city of Thessaloniki.

Police said 30 youths threw petrol bombs and stones at the riot police building, causing extensive damage to seven cars and a police bus parked outside.

Students blocked streets in Athens and dozens of teenagers gathered outside the capital's main court complex and a maximum security prison—where some threw stones at police.

Protesters have called for riot officers to be pulled off the streets, for police to be disarmed and for the government to revise its economic, social and education policies.

The protests have brought higher education in Greece to a standstill. Lessons have stopped at more than 100 secondary schools that are under occupation by students, according to the Education Ministry. Scores of university buildings across Greece are also occupied.

After the shooting death of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos, furious youths smashed and burnt hundreds of shops in Athens' main shopping area, and attacked riot police who responded with massive tear gas.

Dozens of people have been injured in the rioting, while more than 300 people have been arrested. The policeman accused of killing the teenager has been charged with murder and is being held pending trial.

In the northern port of Thessaloniki, riot police fired tear gas Tuesday to disperse 300 youths throwing fruit and stones outside the city's main court complex. The disturbance followed a court decision that found eight police officers guilty of abusing a student following riots two years ago.

The policemen received suspended sentences ranging from three years and three months for grievous bodily harm to 15 months for being an accessory to the abuse.

In a symbolic gesture meant to revive riot-shocked Athens, city authorities will light a large Christmas tree Tuesday on central Syntagma Square—which has been at the center of many of the protests. The tree replaces one burnt during last week's riots.

Overnight, arsonists attacked three Athens banks with petrol bombs, causing extensive damage. There were no injuries or arrests. Every year, small anarchist groups carry out dozens of firebombings in Greece against government property, banks and diplomatic vehicles.

[psychicpollution]

Seems the Greeks have a spine unlike the cowardly sheep Americans.
They shouldve aired Terrorstorm after they took over.

[David Rothscum]

Greek protesters invade TV studio and demand to be put on air
Protesters attacked the headquarters of Greece's riot police in Athens and interrupted a national television news bulletin on Tuesday as violence resumed after a two-day lull.



 This TV grab shows the point of transition between two TV feeds showing Greek Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis addressing the parliament, and a banner reading "Stop watching and get out onto the streets", displayed by Greek youths who interrupted the broa  Photo: AFP/GETTY IMAGES

A group of around 100 hooded and masked protesters threw petrol bombs and rocks at the police station in the centre of the capital, damaging seven cars and a police bus, in a revival of the unrest which was triggered by the fatal shooting of a 15-year-old schoolboy by a police officer 11 days ago.

Violence also flared in the country's second city, Thessaloniki, where riot police fired tear gas to disperse an estimated 300 youths who threw stones and fruit outside the city's main court complex.

The disturbance followed a court's decision to hand down suspended sentences ranging from three years to 15 months to eight police officers who were found guilty of abusing a student during similar demonstrations two years ago.

Protesters occupied a studio at the state broadcaster, NET, interrupting a news bulletin by holding up banners calling for mass participation in the protests which have convulsed Greece since the shooting of Alexandros Grigoropoulos, 15, in Athens on Dec 6.

Footage of a speech by Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis was suddenly replaced by students who held up banners which read: "Stop watching, get out onto the streets," and "Free everyone who has been arrested."

The TV station claimed the students had infiltrated the station earlier in the day by pretending to be visitors and then threatened staff, demanding to be put on air.

The schoolboy's death triggered some of Greece's worst rioting since the end of military rule in 1974, with protesters hurling petrol bombs and rocks at police and torching cars, shops, banks and offices in more than a dozen Greek cities.

Dozens of people have been injured in the rioting and more than 300 people arrested. The policeman accused of killing the teenager has been charged with murder and is being held pending trial.

In his address to parliament, Mr Karamanlis pledged to improve Greece's economic situation and the plight of the estimated 20 per cent of Greeks who live in poverty.

But he said his conservative government's options were limited by the fact that Greece will spend 12 billion euros, about 5 per cent of GDP, just to service its massive national debt.

"Our top priority is to support those hurt the most ... (but) this debt is a huge burden that reduces the government's flexibility at a critical time," he said.

He acknowledged that young Greeks were frustrated and angry with high unemployment, low wages and a poor education system.

"Long unresolved problems disappoint young people: the lack of meritocracy, corruption in everyday life, a sense of social injustice. The fight against them is hard and constant and we are committed to it."

Political analysts said the prime minister was likely to sacrifice some ministers to inject new blood into his conservative government.

"Today the prime minister accepted partial political responsibility," said Theodoros Livanios, director of research at a polling firm, Opinion. "Karamanlis will soon announce a reshuffle of his government."

The cost to Greece from the rioting has been huge. The National Confederation of Commerce estimates 565 shops were damaged in Athens alone, with damage costing 200 million euros.

[larsonstdoc]

Seems the Greeks have a spine unlike the cowardly sheep Americans.
They shouldve aired Terrorstorm after they took over.

  Yea, we are fluoride-infested, spineless nation.  But we still have part of the 2nd Amendment.  We may have to shoot the game controllers out of our son's hands to get them on the streets.

[TheCaliKid]

Sweet.

[Anti_Illuminati]

"Greek youths break into state TV center, take over"

And if we even TALK about mirroring *their ACTIONS* in the U.S., we get told to STFU because the feds that are embedded everywhere will get us (I'm not disputing that that isn't true at all, it's just--WHO'S FAULT IS THAT?  OURS.)  WE *FAILED* when WACO went down, THAT was THE turning point period.  Everyone involved with carrying out the WACO massacre was an enemy alien, or a genuine unlawful enemy combatant, enemy of the sovereign of the Constitution and should have resulted in immediate mass extermination by the state militias.

When Bilderberg met in Ottawa Canada at the hotel, someone should have taken a fighter jet and fired missiles into it obliterating the entire group.  Part of the biggest problem is people don't even know WHO the enemy is, they don't know WHERE they are.  That is their fault for being ignorant.

[navarino]

I want to find for you guys the official statement these students made and translate. It will give you the goosebumps.

[70983]

To me right now Greece looks like heaven.

[Mber]

To me right now Greece looks like heaven.

same

[TheCaliKid]

Americans do not give a damn about anything, UNLESS it will affect their personal pocketbook...

2009 = the year of massive wakeups

[Anti_Illuminati]

To put it another way.  If the people who took part in this act of righteous indignation, posted on pp forums or any other forum in the U.S., they would all be called provacateurs and permanently banned from the site, when the fact of the matter is, if people don't push back worldwide, IT IS OVER.  If you think fear of neutron b_o m_bs should frighten you, that's a pathetic cop out.

The hell with them and their trillion dollar weapon systems.  FORCE THEM TO USE THEM THEN.  Would you rather get killed from mass gamma radiation or die from food and chemical poisoning, brutal, vicious rape, torture, slave labor, being thrown alive into one of the acid baths that Alex has talked about, or being boiled or burned alive?  The latter option offers ZERO chance of preserving liberty.  I commend what the Greek have done and I hope they can override the TV station and broadcast something factual.

[BlueBaron]

Its obviously the Brainwashing program in Greece had a bug in it, their using version 3.6 here, thats why the people are so dumbed down in the West.

Will be interesting to see what the final outcome in Greece is, seems that the Government maybe losing control but somehow I doubt it.

Even if the people overturned the Government the slimeballs of the EU would sent in a Peace Keeping Force to reinstall the Government leaders.

[Mber]

Its obviously the Brainwashing program in Greece had a bug in it, their using version 3.6 here, thats why the people are so dumbed down in the West.

Will be interesting to see what the final outcome in Greece is, seems that the Government maybe losing control but somehow I doubt it.

Even if the people overturned the Government the slimeballs of the EU would sent in a Peace Keeping Force to reinstall the Government leaders.

That's really just it too. No matter how applauding and righteous the Greeks are right now, realistically, the people will NEVER defeat the NWO by physical force. We're up against the military, and only a small minority are whiling to even go that far. It has to come down to a peaceful coming together of the masses and simpley saying NO. Will that happen? I don't know.

[Garythemessage]

Its obviously the Brainwashing program in Greece had a bug in it, their using version 3.6 here, thats why the people are so dumbed down in the West.

Will be interesting to see what the final outcome in Greece is, seems that the Government maybe losing control but somehow I doubt it.

Even if the people overturned the Government the slimeballs of the EU would sent in a Peace Keeping Force to reinstall the Government leaders.

I think BlueBaron mistyped.  We're up to 36.0.  See?  The dot was in the wrong place.

[molarediere]

Seems the Greeks have a spine unlike the cowardly sheep Americans.
They shouldve aired Terrorstorm after they took over.

"America will watch the revolution on tv" Marshall McLuhan

[Anti_Illuminati]

That's really just it too. No matter how applauding and righteous the Greeks are right now, realistically, the people will NEVER defeat the NWO by physical force. We're up against the military, and only a small minority are whiling to even go that far. It has to come down to a peaceful coming together of the masses and simpley saying NO. Will that happen? I don't know.

"Willing to go that far."  I have bad news for you.  We are not going to have a choice.  Tell me how peaceful you are going to handle things in light of this news release here:

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Dec16/0,4670,WashingtonGunBan,00.html

Excerpt from article:

No constitutional right is absolute, nor is this right to possess a gun in the home for self defense," said councilwoman Mary Cheh, a law professor at George Washington University.

[David Rothscum]

To put it another way.  If the people who took part in this act of righteous indignation, posted on pp forums or any other forum in the U.S., they would all be called provacateurs and permanently banned from the site, when the fact of the matter is, if people don't push back worldwide, IT IS OVER.  If you think fear of neutron b_o m_bs should frighten you, that's a pathetic cop out.

Oh, the neutron bombs don't frighten me. The race specific bioweapons don't even really frighten me. What frightens me is the idea of our people locking themselves in their home, having spent their money on guns, stored food, gold and colloidal silver, and waiting for the New World Order to come and force them into the FEMA camps. They poison your vaccines, but you find out about it so stop taking them so they put it in your water. When you find out about the poison in your water they put the poison in your food. When you find out about the poison in your food they rename it. When you stop buying their food they put the poison in your environment. they've got something new. We can't just sit this out and constantly react to their moves. We can't wait for them to assault us, they already have. With one in 66 having autism, a 9000% increase in Alzheimer's in 30 years, and our children intellectually behind 3 years on the previous generation at their age we're the only ones left standing amongst our army after the first assault. We need a popular revolt, the only question is, how does one start it.

[navarino]

To me right now Greece looks like heaven.

Because I used to live in America until I was 15 (now I'm 23) I appreciate the revolution going on in Greece much more than most of the guys I protest with, not that they don't realize that they are making history, but it's just I have first hand experience of what my country can look like if we don't revolt NOW.

I just want to kind of relay the vibes and feelings in the atmosphere right now in Greece. Theres this extreme sensation of solidarity between everyone participating in these demonstrations, protests, riots, or whatever you want to call it.

Listen, I'm not going to lie to you guys because I think you'd understand. I have SO MUCH fury and rage pent up inside me for my corrupt government and it's puppet master bilderberg scum. If you don't agree with our tactics of throwing rocks and molotovs (only at cops, ministries, banks, multinationals, and police stations, never at mom and pop shops, that's for the provocateurs, and I've seen it with my own eyes, NEW VIDEOS WERE JUST RELEASED 2 HOURS AGO ON A GREEK TV SHOW CLEARLY SHOWING THE POLICE WORKING WITH A GROUP OF THUGS THAT ARE BREAKING SHOP WINDOWS) I'm not in the mood for a lecture.

You don't live here, you don't know what we go through, and finally you might not know what it means to be a Greek, and that to me would be the biggest reason you wouldn't understand the reasons why we have to resort to these means. We have freedom and rebellion in our DNA, there is no we can bend over and take it deep by these cvnts.

Out on the streets when were fighting those bastards we are like one clenched fist, I've been on a basketball team my whole life and Ive never felt such close teamwork with people in my life. This unity is driven by a common desire to be free and have a chance to live out your basic God given rights that NO NWO bastard is gonna take from us.

My parents generation went through a similar revolution in 1974, but then they got on the train. They got good paying jobs, joined a political party, and basically got really comfortable. TOO COMFORTABLE. And now were left holding the bill.

I really wish you prison planet guys over in America can one day feel the emotions I'm feeling right now. As I said, I used to live in America for 15 years, was born there, raised there, and to tell you the truth, I hated it. I haven't kept in touch with anyone I knew there because they were all spoiled, ignorant, brainless morons who had no respect for me simply because they couldn't pronounce my name.

But after finding Alex Jones and this forum I regained some hope for that godforsaken place. Please Americans, if push comes to shove stand up for your rights! Even if your neighbor doesn't do it, YOU DO IT!  If your on this forum reading this post, that means that you most probably are a guy of morals, character, and in general, made up of good stuff.

Know that fear is not real and is simply an illusion, when the time comes for you guys to revolt, chances are your gonna have to use your 2nd Ammendment rights, and what I'm getting at is this, were all gonna die at some point anyway, what's the difference really between 30, 40, 50, or 90 years old. It's a blink in the eye of humanity.

What matters is going with HONOR! Doing the right thing! If the right thing is to stay indoors and not fight because your family needs you alive then do it, and know that you did the honorable thing in your heart, do not be rash. But for alot of you guys out there, and you know who you are, your Jimminy Cricket's gonna tell you to get the hell out there and fight and you better do it and do it good!

Were setting the precedent over here, and BELIEVE ME that what is happening in Greece was not staged or planned, sure it was expected, but it is one of the few things you'll hear in the news that wasn't planned at a CFR or Bilderberg meeting. So please follow our lead! I'm doing all I can over here to educate everyone I talk to about the NWO, because the most important thing as RATM says, is to KNOW YOUR ENEMY.

[SuzakaDusk]

Good for them . How come we became so spineless is beyond me :S

[Anti_Illuminati]

@David Rothscum

That is why I said we failed by doing nothing about WACO.  We have failed countless times.  How did the National Security Act in 1947 get passed? (I don't know.)  America is finished.  People always talk about how 3% of the population participated in the Revolutionary war.  IMO, even if 3% did today, I doubt that would be enough, because the people were on a more level playing field in terms of armament back then.  Today, they can kill us from space, from 100,000 feet up in the air, with stealth craft, robots that we don't know about, mass aerial nerve gas, etc.

I don't have the answers.  I don't have a photo ID.  When someone tries to force me to get ID, you will never hear from me again.  I refuse to be a slave anymore.

[David Rothscum]

Navarino, could you explain to me what the general ideology of the people revolting now is? The media says that these people are anarchists and the radical left fighting a right wing government, is that right? Are these people fighting the globalists or simply opposed to the right wing government? Do you see people discussing the real issues? Are people for example protesting the police state in Greece, where the government uses traffic camera's to spy on people?

[Xill]

It is not a century of oil, or wars, or new world order. It's a century of revolutions.

[navarino]

Navarino, could you explain to me what the general ideology of the people revolting now is? The media says that these people are anarchists and the radical left fighting a right wing government, is that right? Are these people fighting the globalists or simply opposed to the right wing government? Do you see people discussing the real issues? Are people for example protesting the police state in Greece, where the government uses traffic camera's to spy on people?

The media is full of shit man. The people protesting are mostly high school and university students. This has nothing to do with left vs. right. These kids could give a crap about "politics" in the traditional sense.  I'd like to fist answer your question about whether they are protesting the police state because this is what actually sparked the riots.

The police state in Greece is really bad guys, the cops frequently beat the crap out of ppl they arrest, rape women, deal drugs, offer "protection," and believe that they are above the law. The Prime Minister is on record telling the police that they "are the law." So you can imagine the reaction when Alexandros was murdered! Even now, the government is not officially calling it a murder although it is so unbelievably blatant. (the official story of how the 9mm bullet ricoched from 25 meters and somehow hit him in the chest is crazier than the 911 story)

Pandora's box is opened now. The "extremists" (that's what the Greek news calls us), and I'm very proud of them for this, have unraveled the false right left paradigm and KNOW that even if the socialist party comes to power, nothing will change. There are talks now of creating a new third party for the people, totally independent from right, left, and communist, that will represent the interests of the youth of Greece. Kind of like a check and balance in the parliament. As for the Globalist agenda, 20% of the graffiti sprayed these past 2 weeks (and there's been ALOT!) is against NATO. I've even seen 911 is an inside job graffiti!!

Those born before 1970 say that they "understand the youth that is doing this but they don't agree with their tactics." People in Greece right now are starting to bind together. I know alot of shops were broken but that's not important to me or anyone else really. Are you gonna feel sorry for the shop that sells Rolex and Breitlings when you have a PHD and have been unemployed for 5 months? It's either now or never in everyone's mind. They are in it for the long haul.

Their biggest demand at the moment is that the government fall...

[David Rothscum]

America is finished.  People always talk about how 3% of the population participated in the Revolutionary war.  IMO, even if 3% did today, I doubt that would be enough, because the people were on a more level playing field in terms of armament back then.  Today, they can kill us from space, from 100,000 feet up in the air, with stealth craft, robots that we don't know about, mass aerial nerve gas, etc.

Within a few years, the internet as we know it no longer exists, a revolutionary source of information, because it allows us to access multiple articles at the same time, at any time we want, from multiple sources, instead of reading a single point of view, within a few days of it being published.

They did not seem to realize the knowledge this gave us. We could read the articles dating back to early 2001 after 9/11/01, and read how our government was creating alliances against the Taliban before the attacks, and combine this information with other articles showing how the war plans were ready 2 days in advance, and we put these articles out for everyone to see, and because of this everyone now knows what they did to us.

We can access thousands of scientific studies whenever we want, and find out we are being poisoned, without the men in their ivory towers realizing that just because the internet is convenient for them does not mean that we the dumbed down masses can not read what they've done to us as well. They want to shut our source of information down, but it's too late, we have thousands of people worldwide who know everything they have to know.

We know who the enemy is, we know what they've done to us, and we know what we're up against. And yes, they may have better weapons, and America as we know it is probably finished and won't come back.  Our enemy may have nerve gas, neutron bombs and God knows what more, but in the end, the only enemies we face are a bunch of sick old delusional men in ivory towers. We know what we're up against, but they clearly do not. They can't hide forever, and their neutron bombs and taser drones will not protect them when they are confronted with a sole man with nothing to lose that knows how his entire family has been murdered by these people.

[David Rothscum]

The media is full of shit man. The people protesting are mostly high school and university students. This has nothing to do with left vs. right. These kids could give a crap about "politics" in the traditional sense.  I'd like to fist answer your question about whether they are protesting the police state because this is what actually sparked the riots.

The police state in Greece is really bad guys, the cops frequently beat the crap out of ppl they arrest, rape women, deal drugs, offer "protection," and believe that they are above the law. The Prime Minister is on record telling the police that they "are the law." So you can imagine the reaction when Alexandros was murdered! Even now, the government is not officially calling it a murder although it is so unbelievably blatant. (the official story of how the 9mm bullet ricoched from 25 meters and somehow hit him in the chest is crazier than the 911 story)

Pandora's box is opened now. The "extremists" (that's what the Greek news calls us), and I'm very proud of them for this, have unraveled the false right left paradigm and KNOW that even if the socialist party comes to power, nothing will change. There are talks now of creating a new third party for the people, totally independent from right, left, and communist, that will represent the interests of the youth of Greece. Kind of like a check and balance in the parliament. As for the Globalist agenda, 20% of the graffiti sprayed these past 2 weeks (and there's been ALOT!) is against NATO. I've even seen 911 is an inside job graffiti!!

Those born before 1970 say that they "understand the youth that is doing this but they don't agree with their tactics." People in Greece right now are starting to bind together. I know alot of shops were broken but that's not important to me or anyone else really. Are you gonna feel sorry for the shop that sells Rolex and Breitlings when you have a PHD and have been unemployed for 5 months? It's either now or never in everyone's mind. They are in it for the long haul.

Their biggest demand at the moment is that the government fall...

I'm really glad to see that the people in Greece do not buy into the fake solutions they're given, unlike the people in the US who went with the fake solution in our last election. You're in an excellent situation to inflict change, one you may not be in again, and many of us may never be in. Keep waking people up, now is the time.

[Xill]

Within a few years, the internet as we know it no longer exists, a revolutionary source of information, because it allows us to access multiple articles at the same time, at any time we want, from multiple sources, instead of reading a single point of view, within a few days of it being published.

They did not seem to realize the knowledge this gave us. We could read the articles dating back to early 2001 after 9/11/01, and read how our government was creating alliances against the Taliban before the attacks, and combine this information with other articles showing how the war plans were ready 2 days in advance, and we put these articles out for everyone to see, and because of this everyone now knows what they did to us.

We can access thousands of scientific studies whenever we want, and find out we are being poisoned, without the men in their ivory towers realizing that just because the internet is convenient for them does not mean that we the dumbed down masses can not read what they've done to us as well. They want to shut our source of information down, but it's too late, we have thousands of people worldwide who know everything they have to know.

We know who the enemy is, we know what they've done to us, and we know what we're up against. And yes, they may have better weapons, and America as we know it is probably finished and won't come back.  Our enemy may have nerve gas, neutron bombs and God knows what more, but in the end, the only enemies we face are a bunch of sick old delusional men in ivory towers. We know what we're up against, but they clearly do not. They can't hide forever, and their neutron bombs and taser drones will not protect them when they are confronted with a sole man with nothing to lose that knows how his entire family has been murdered by these people.

The real revolution is made through new ideas and ideals - a new constitution and bill of right; the guns are only necessary to get rid of the opposition that tries to prevent the true social evolution in order to keep their power.

What we need is:
-A new convention for the people
-A revolutionary tribunal

[navarino]

Within a few years, the internet as we know it no longer exists, a revolutionary source of information, because it allows us to access multiple articles at the same time, at any time we want, from multiple sources, instead of reading a single point of view, within a few days of it being published.

They did not seem to realize the knowledge this gave us. We could read the articles dating back to early 2001 after 9/11/01, and read how our government was creating alliances against the Taliban before the attacks, and combine this information with other articles showing how the war plans were ready 2 days in advance, and we put these articles out for everyone to see, and because of this everyone now knows what they did to us.

We can access thousands of scientific studies whenever we want, and find out we are being poisoned, without the men in their ivory towers realizing that just because the internet is convenient for them does not mean that we the dumbed down masses can not read what they've done to us as well. They want to shut our source of information down, but it's too late, we have thousands of people worldwide who know everything they have to know.

We know who the enemy is, we know what they've done to us, and we know what we're up against. And yes, they may have better weapons, and America as we know it is probably finished and won't come back.  Our enemy may have nerve gas, neutron bombs and God knows what more, but in the end, the only enemies we face are a bunch of sick old delusional men in ivory towers. We know what we're up against, but they clearly do not. They can't hide forever, and their neutron bombs and taser drones will not protect them when they are confronted with a sole man with nothing to lose that knows how his entire family has been murdered by these people.

It's gonna be an uphill battle and the odds are probably stacked against us but we have to keep pushing. Let's get off of our keyboards, go on the streets, hand out DVD's, march down parliament, run for council or mayor, do something, do anything, but we have to keep fighting. The game is pretty much unbeatable physically imo. Just look at their weaponry as Anti_Illuminati said. It's an infowar now, you're gonna have to wake up the people that are behind the weapons I think. What are the chances of the soldiers waking up and turning against their masters?

[heavyhebrew]

"Greek youths break into state TV center, take over"

And if we even TALK about mirroring *their ACTIONS* in the U.S., we get told to STFU because the feds that are embedded everywhere will get us (I'm not disputing that that isn't true at all, it's just--WHO'S FAULT IS THAT?  OURS.)  WE *FAILED* when WACO went down, THAT was THE turning point period.  Everyone involved with carrying out the WACO massacre was an enemy alien, or a genuine unlawful enemy combatant, enemy of the sovereign of the Constitution and should have resulted in immediate mass extermination by the state militias.

When Bilderberg met in Ottawa Canada at the hotel, someone should have taken a fighter jet and fired missiles into it obliterating the entire group.  Part of the biggest problem is people don't even know WHO the enemy is, they don't know WHERE they are.  That is their fault for being ignorant.

Which is why I always advocate any organization involved in liberating the United States from financial elite control to practice rigorous counterintelligence protocols and not even hint at things on internet forums.

[David Rothscum]

The game is pretty much unbeatable physically imo.

That depends, we clearly can't really fight back against Neutron bombs. But look at Greece, they've now run out of Tear gas and need to buy from other countries. Imagine we had worldwide revolts. What would they do, start shooting us, the way they shot that Greek boy? They can use all the fancy weaponry they want, but all it does is bring more people to our side.

[navarino]

That depends, we clearly can't really fight back against Neutron bombs. But look at Greece, they've now run out of Tear gas and need to buy from other countries. Imagine we had worldwide revolts. What would they do, start shooting us, the way they shot that Greek boy? They can use all the fancy weaponry they want, but all it does is bring more people to our side.

That's what I was thinking. Right now, the only way they could contain the situation is bring in Martial Law. They'd have to kill a few ppl who broke curfew, set the precedent, and basically have a 1984 lockdown situation. If it comes down to it they could even play their cards like that globally. They have the capability to do it, especially with the unmanned drones and robots soldiers they are creating. But I honestly don't think that's their game plan. This is the 1984 vs. Brave New World question really.

[oyk152]

It's gonna be an uphill battle and the odds are probably stacked against us but we have to keep pushing. Let's get off of our keyboards, go on the streets, hand out DVD's, march down parliament, run for council or mayor, do something, do anything, but we have to keep fighting. The game is pretty much unbeatable physically imo. Just look at their weaponry as Anti_Illuminati said. It's an infowar now, you're gonna have to wake up the people that are behind the weapons I think. What are the chances of the soldiers waking up and turning against their masters?

Navarino never but never a real Greek soldier will attack the Greek people i know what i am talking all my friends and me we are waiting for the moment the government will ask for our support,then real hell will break out.we are soldiers Kai pote den tha polemisoume enantion to lao mas.Emis imaste etimi kai emis exoume ta opla.alla we will be the last solution.

[BlueBaron]

What you need is to take the police Shields and weapons by a pincer movement then start from there by using there weapons against them.

I sure the will of the intelligent people of the earth is behind your cause.

P.S. Can someone play the End Game DVD on the T.V. Station, Start your address to the people of the Greek Nation, with,........

"There is nothing wrong with your tell-lie-vision set, do not attempt to adjust the picture, we are controlling transmission, if we wish to make it louder we will bring up the volume, if we wish to make it softer we will tune it to a whisper, we will control the horizontal, we will control the vertical, we can roll the image, make it flutter, change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity, for the next 2 hours sit quietly and will will control all you see and here, we repeat there is nothing wrong with your tell-lie-vision set, you are about to participate in a great adventure, you are about to experience the ore and mystery, which reaches from the inner mind to The Outer Limits,"

[navarino]

Navarino never but never a real Greek soldier will attack the Greek people i know what i am talking all my friends and me we are waiting for the moment the government will ask for our support,then real hell will break out.we are soldiers Kai pote den tha polemisoume enantion to lao mas.Emis imaste etimi kai emis exoume ta opla.alla we will be the last solution.

I've asked this question many times to the guys I was with in Polytexnio and many of them think that if they bring in Martial Law, they will not use the regular soldiers, fadari, like you and your friends. They will use the special forces who will be more willing to use force against the civilians. Alla exoume pesei toso poly san laos gia na pyrobolithoume for their entertainment? I personally don't think so.

What are the thoughts of the soldiers about what is going on? Where are you stationed re?

[navarino]

And something else. What have you heard about the possibility of arsi tou asylou. Leei na ginei kati tetoio?

[oyk152]

I've asked this question many times to the guys I was with in Polytexnio and many of them think that if they bring in Martial Law, they will not use the regular soldiers, fadari, like you and your friends. They will use the special forces who will be more willing to use force against the civilians. Alla exoume pesei toso poly san laos gia na pyrobolithoume for their entertainment? I personally don't think so.

What are the thoughts of the soldiers about what is going on? Where are you stationed re?

Navarino sorry but read my name on top of my picture oyk 152 i am a Loxias by the O.Y.K what means Omada ypovrixion katastrafon i am a special forces sodier and my friends also.i don't know what you know about as but 1 thing is for sure we will not fight aginst our familys.The only thing what could happen is to bring the Lokantsides or tous monimous apo to pesiko.We will not attack our own familys.Point

[navarino]

What you need is to take the police Shields and weapons by a pincer movement then start from there by using there weapons against them.

I sure the will of the intelligent people of the earth is behind your cause.

P.S. Can someone play the End Game DVD on the T.V. Station, Start your address to the people of the Greek Nation, with,........

"There is nothing wrong with your tell-lie-vision set, do not attempt to adjust the picture, we are controlling transmission, if we wish to make it louder we will bring up the volume, if we wish to make it softer we will tune it to a whisper, we will control the horizontal, we will control the vertical, we can roll the image, make it flutter, change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity, for the next 2 hours sit quietly and will will control all you see and here, we repeat there is nothing wrong with your tell-lie-vision set, you are about to participate in a great adventure, you are about to experience the ore and mystery, which reaches from the inner mind to The Outer Limits,"

If it had Greek subtitles I'd seriously think about it! TV stations were hijacked I think a few times this week, but private. Nothing like what happened today. This is equivalent to the BBC getting hijacked in England.

[lazyhorse]

People always talk about how 3% of the population participated in the Revolutionary war.  IMO, even if 3% did today, I doubt that would be enough, because the people were on a more level playing field in terms of armament back then. Today, they can kill us from space, from 100,000 feet up in the air, with stealth craft, robots that we don't know about, mass aerial nerve gas, etc.

It's an infowar now, you're gonna have to wake up the people that are behind the weapons I think. What are the chances of the soldiers waking up and turning against their masters?

waking up civilians has reached sauration point now anyway. there is a vacuum of authority. we need the professionals now. the first domino is the heaviest. navarino, you are a real inspiration, man. you should go on the alex jones show. he would have you on the show for sure. ask him. somebody here ask him.

Which is why I always advocate any organization involved in liberating the United States from financial elite control to practice rigorous counterintelligence protocols and not even hint at things on internet forums.

which is why i didn't mention the secret weapon.

[heavyhebrew]

which is why i didn't mention the secret weapon.

Ah so it is you who took the missing U.S. nuke.

[navarino]

waking up civilians has reached sauration point now anyway. there is a vacuum of authority. we need the professionals now. the first domino is the heaviest. navarino, you are a real inspiration, man. you should go on the alex jones show. he would have you on the show for sure. ask him. somebody here ask him.

which is why i didn't mention the secret weapon.

I will for sure. I have some serious strategy questions for AJ about what to do here in Greece.

[vladimir]

To me right now Greece looks like heaven.

Yiasou, navarino! Romiosini, min tin kles!

I've been transfigured by the revolutionary spirit of the Greek people and their intransigent stand against Anglo-American-NATO imperialism in the region since I saw the film Songs of Fire (Tragoudhia tis Fotias) in a Greek theater in New York at the time when the Turkish Army invaded Cyprus. The film was a document showing the popular demonstrations, with interviews (one of an American who saw her Greek husband shot dead on the streets of Nicosia by agents of the CIA), and featuring a massive concert with the idols of the Greek popular music scene. Mikis Theodorakis, who wrote the music for Zorba the Greek, was an organizer and participant in the film, and his (very political) music was featured throughout.
 
I would defend the electronic takeover of the Greek TV report as an act of self-defense. It was a non-violent act, unlike the mindless petrol-bomb throwing and burning of family shops. Media propaganda has tried to focus public attention in Greece and worldwide on the few petrol bomb-throwing provocateurs, whether these be conscious or unconscious provocateurs. Such provocative elements represent only 1 out of 100 of Greek activists who have responded to the economic repression and the recent killing of 15-year-old school boy Giorgios Grigoropoulos. There are massive, serious, and non-violent demonstrations and rallies throughout Greece which get buried in the media. Unfortunately, this distortion has been reflected too much on the Prison Planet website.

Some more representative coverage of Greek activism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbMxo0TqOgo (Students December 9, 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epLa08tLrhc&NR=1 (Students December 9, 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq3avk3C7cU (September 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0o3DZsL4v4&NR=1 (earlier)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOx5TWgu5wo (earlier, and disrupted by provocateur bomb )

Songs of Fire (here called "Fire's Songs"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEkLXqQBoyA&feature=related (Songs of Fire - here "Fire's Songs", in parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wELBErLI_4w&feature=related (George Dalaras, a star of Songs of Fire)*

*The national culture of the Greeks plays a prominent role in Greek activism. Dalaras (Giorgos Ntalaras) is now known worldwide. This video shows George Papandreou holding up a sign "Ellas!" (Greece!), being arrested by suited thugs. Here is a song by Dalaras, who is a Cypriot, promoting brotherhood between Greek and Turkish peoples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG22hEHFREo&feature=related (with Turkish subtitles)

 
See, I'm not one of the ones who condemn Alex Jones for his passion. Passion is the soul of a culture and a necessary commodity in any true revolution. But passion and imprudence are not the same thing.

Navarino, my knowledge of Greek is modest, but I'd be glad to assist in any translation efforts you might wish to undertake. I'm taking an on-line Greek course now and am on the intermediate level. I'm also an experienced translator in other languages.