Hi all, first post.
Has anyone here voted for a real change on change.org. This website has been promoted as an official site of the president elect so much so that it will inform his policies.
I created a vote on change.org for a re-investigation of 9/11, naively wondering why no such poll had been made. Imagine my suprise when it recieved votes fast.
Anyway I posted this in a facebook forum full of trolls, so I thought I would put it on a more public forum.
I have just seen that for the second time this site has removed the threads to vote for a reopenning of the 9/11 investigation, for what reason it is unknown, yet the admin does not want to reply (I was not the poster). Apparently this idea was top rated before it was yanked. I smell a rat, but why? What has Obama's side got to loose by reopenning the case? Why remove a perfectly plausible plan. No matter if you believe or disbelieve to 9.11 commissions findings (although most of the commissions members do not themselves) there should be no logical reason not to persue a new investigation, unless a conspiracy of silence exists all the way to the Obama camp itself. It is scary that even on the internet 9/11 truth seekers are silenced.
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You wroteon 06 December 2008 at 14:59
Further to this that post was removed. Here is the email I recieved when that happened, it makes interesting reading....
Hello Alexander,
We wanted to send you a note about an idea you recently submitted on in the Ideas for Change in America competition titled "A new investigation into 9/11."
We support calls for truth and transparency in our government on every subject and welcome you to directly petition the new administration about this matter, which you can do at
http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople. However, this is unfortunately outside the scope of the Ideas for Change in America project, which aims to offer specific policy solutions rather than investigations into past government action. As such, it is not eligible to enter the second round of the competition.
We understand that good people may disagree with our vision. But this is a private effort not connected to the Obama campaign or transition team, and we reserve the right to keep the competition and its content aligned with the stated mission and overall spirit of the project.
Thank you for your understanding. As mentioned above, we welcome you to directly petition the Obama administration about your proposal at
http://www.change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople . And we hope you continue your work to advance change.
Best,
- The Ideas for Change in America Team
Ok so if you want to really vote for change go to the change.gov site please as this is a private site which censors.
This is my reply followed by a letter to president elect Obama.
Well your website is being promoted as being official. I have to say that I disagree whole heartedly. A new investigation would correct the lie and be the bedrock of policy solutions in any post-truth age as the official version of 9-11 has been the basis in this the pre-truth age.
Allow this to pass. All other policy changes as regards both foreign and domestic policy are meaningless without their basis in the real world.
If change is to happen it must be in a positive direction. The positive direction is that based on the truth.
Dear Sir,
It has come to my attention that your official website
www.changeorg has
been blocking votes and removing threads repeatedlyt on the same matter.
Whilst one may not agree the the idea surely the peoples right to express
their opinions and be listened to is paramount. Surely you would not like
to have you official web-site labelled anti-democratic? The subject is
emotive, but it is nonetheless paramount to Americas dometic and Foreign
policy pertaining the War on Terror. Whilst I am not an American, I am a
citizen of a country whose goverment marches in step with yours, namely
Great Britain, I am also affected by these wars and the reasons for them. I
have as much right to know what happened as a US citizen. I am of course
referring to 9-11. There should be no reason why your campaign will not
support a free investigation with full rights of supeona and prosectution.
The investigation should be transpaent, those with fore-knowledge and
complicity to whatever degree in those attacks should be prosecuted by the
appropriate bodies (national or international). one thing I suggest you
should make a priority to restore Americas standing with the world is to
sign America up to the ICC (International crimianal Court) and restore
faith in the UN as the brokers of war and peace. i would also submit that
reformation of the security council to stop unwarranted use of the
national veto by requiring any veto to be seconded to be a step in the
right direction. Pleace don't make hope and change join the list of empty
words like, freedom, peace and justice, made empty by the current
administration. It is time for real change and that means you could be
standing up to people who could kill you, and at the very least have the
power to make you unelectable in a second term. The election was easy
compared to to the real painful change that must be made to stop the world
slipping into another endless war, this time with no front lines
whatsoever.
Anyway those are my opinions at the time of writing. Im new to the movement, but have been awake to the lies since before BUsh came in. I guess I let my self fall into apathy knowing that there was no hope.
When Obama came I thought wow maybe just maybe this is a guy to topple the NWO agenda. Then I listened to the empty rhetoric of change. the campaign was a campaign of mass brainwashing with no thought. n Listening to the response of American voters when asked why they voted Obama all I heard was empty rhetoric with no substance quoted back, it was freaky but funny.
I am so worried because this guy is so much more charismatic and smart then the last obvious stooge. Hell he even had me hoping.
Later I found that this existed!
http://www.topratedbutcensored911idea.com/idea.htmlSo this has happened many, many times
Why would a democratic presidents people protect the previous administration?
There is a cross party agenda/conspiracy, obviously.
People just keep openning those polls please and record all of your attempts as proof.
Thanks
