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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2009, 12:19:11 pm »
I use toothsoap.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2009, 07:39:56 pm »
ya know, there is no medicinal value to toothpaste, its just flavours and filler.  you don't need to put anything on yer toothbrush.  just use water on yer toothbrush, its the  physical brushing that keeps teeth clean, not what u put on the brush.  other then being a breath freshener, there is no need for any toothpaste of any kind. 

That's true. Toothpaste is not necessary.

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However, I think it's a good idea to use it when we can, for the same reason we use soap to wash our hands, and I guess to soften the rubbing, and therefore, prevent damage to the gums.

If you ever come to Portugal, look for an orange pack. It's the only one I know of that is not fluoridated and it's relatively easy to find.



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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2009, 10:30:45 pm »
ya know, there is no medicinal value to toothpaste, its just flavours and filler.  you don't need to put anything on yer toothbrush.  just use water on yer toothbrush, its the  physical brushing that keeps teeth clean, not what u put on the brush.  other then being a breath freshener, there is no need for any toothpaste of any kind. 

Toothpaste is an abrasive (contains small hard particles), that's how it helps to clean teeth. Maybe you don't need it but it would probably take longer and wouldn't do as good a job.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2009, 10:52:25 pm »
I just started using baking soda or baking soda with hydrogen peroxide to make a paste. Amazing! My teeth have never felt so clean.

I will continue using this, however, I did read people saying it will harm your teeth because its abrasive. I wonder if this is true. I really love the stuff.
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« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2009, 12:12:10 am »
Thanks for the info. I will go buy some non-floride tooth paste!!!

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2009, 04:46:53 am »
I have discovered, via Dr Weston A Price, that indeed, tooth brushing is solely cosmetic. It has no or little real value as a prophylactic. I'll be writing a full article soon, but in essence, you need a good diet, with plenty of fat soluble vitamins. The establishment forces us off these, often locally produced foods, onto their corporatist crap by spreading the lie that cholesterol is a deadly poison (just as much a lie as CO2).

Price reckons whole (raw) milk and milk products, seafood, organ meats, etc. are enough to have good teeth. He came to this conclusion after a couple decades of field work analysing the reason why natives had good teeth, and lost them after moving to western diets. He also carried out many tests on animals and humans in his lab and clinic. The human tests were extrememly humane!! He found poor people with bad teeth, and experimented with nutritious diets that he had previously determined to be nutritious. He cured his clients whom he treated in this manner.

Its a long story, and I'll go into it in detail in a seperate post soon. His whole book is here: http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html  and its available on Amazon.

I have a small library on his kindof work: http://www.meetup.com/Campaign4RealMilk-London/about/  and the main organization that promotes his work is: westonaprice.org

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2009, 03:52:25 am »


This is the brand i use, they make mouthwash too.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2010, 11:11:47 pm »
Natural Care Tom's of Mains Flouride Free Toothpaste. :)

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2010, 01:27:28 pm »
Toms has Sodium Laurel Sulphate, it is a bio-accumulating carcinogen.  It also has Glycerin, which coats the enamel stopping it from re-mineralizing from the saliva (this is how the enamel is nourished).

I use French Green Clay, mix it with water to form a paste. Glycerin coats the enamel for up to a month. All toothpastes have it. You just have to make your own, and its easy.

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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2010, 09:27:09 pm »
Also Tom's is owned by Colgate now.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2010, 09:46:09 pm »
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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2010, 11:32:59 pm »
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I just started using baking soda or baking soda with hydrogen peroxide to make a paste. Amazing! My teeth have never felt so clean.

I will continue using this, however, I did read people saying it will harm your teeth because its abrasive. I wonder if this is true. I really love the stuff.

I was told by a dentist a long time ago that baking soda and hydrogen peroxide was the best thing to use on your teeth.  I don't think he would have said that if it would have been harmful.  He was retired so he had nothing to gain by his advice to me.
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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2010, 12:16:00 am »
http://www.naturalnews.com/028636_toothpaste_cleanser.html

Make Your Own Safe, Natural and Healthy Toothpastes and Cleansers

by Tony Isaacs, citizen journalist

(NaturalNews) Virtually all commercial toothpastes contain one or both of two problematic ingredients: fluoride and glycerin. Fluoride, a mining by-product, is one of the bigger scams perpetrated on an unwitting public. Instead of being beneficial it actually damages teeth. Glycerin coats the enamel and prevents natural re-mineralization of teeth. The solution in avoiding those two items may be making your own tooth paste or tooth cleanser at home.

Here are some recipes you can make at home which contain neither fluoride or glycerin:

Old Fashioned Tooth Powder

Ingredients:

2 tbsp dried lemon or orange rind
1/4 cup baking soda
2 tsp salt

Directions:

Grind the rinds in a food processor until they become a fine powder. Add baking soda and salt then process for a few more seconds until you have a fine powder. Store in an airtight container. Dip moistened toothbrush into the mixture and brush as usual.

Mix ingredients to make a paste, dip toothbrush into the mix and then brush as usual.

Basic Toothpaste

Ingredients:

1 Tsp of the above Old Fashioned Tooth Powder
1/4 Tsp Hydrogen peroxide

Directions:

Mix into a paste and brush as usual.

Vanilla, Geranium and Honey Toothpaste

Ingredients:

1/2 ounce powdered chalk
3 ounces powdered orris root
4 teaspoons of tincture of vanilla
15 drops oil of rose geranium
Raw honey, enough to make a paste

Directions:

Combine all ingredients and mix until you have the consistency you want. Scoop the paste onto brush. Store the paste in an airtight container.

Simple Mint Toothpaste

Ingredients:

Bicarbonate of soda
Salt
Water
Bentonite clay powder
Peppermint oil

Directions:

Mix 3 parts bicarbonate of soda with one part salt. Add 3 tsp of bentonite clay for every 1/4 cup of this mixture, and then add enough water to make a thick paste. Add a few drops of peppermint oil for better taste.

Herbal Mint Toothpaste Recipe

Ingredients:

1/4 tsp peppermint oil
1/4 tsp spearmint
1/4 cup arrowroot
1/4 cup powdered orrisroot
1/4 cup water
1 tsp ground sage

Directions:

Mix all dry ingredients in a bowl. Add water until paste is desired thickness/consistency. Store at room temperature in a tightly covered jar.

Substitute 1/2 tsp each of oil of cinnamon and oil of cloves for peppermint/spearmint if desired.

Refreshing Super Mint Toothpaste

Ingredients:

6 teaspoons baking soda
1/3 teaspoon sea salt
4 teaspoons bentonite clay powder
15 drops peppermint

Directions:

Mix thoroughly until you get the toothpaste consistency you desire. If desired, add a few drops of peppermint or wintergreen.

Strawberry Tooth Cleanser

Ingredients:

1 tsp of the above Old Fashioned Tooth Powder
1 tbsp crushed ripe strawberries

Directions:

Mix strawberries and powder into a paste and brush as usual.

Basic Tooth Cleanser

Ingredients:

Hydrogen peroxide (a few drops)
Baking soda

Directions:

Make a paste by combining the two ingredients. You can also gently rub this paste along your gums twice a week for maximum benefit.

Lemon and Cloves Herbal Tooth Cleanser

Ingredients:

Small amount of finely powdered sage
1 ounce of finely powdered myrrh
1 pound powdered arrow root
3 ounces powdered orris root
15 drops oil of lemon
8 drops oil of cloves
10 drops oil of bergamot
10 drops of coconut oil (you may have to warm slightly to melt)

Directions:

Mix the powdered ingredients first and then add and mix the oils into the mixture.

Notes:

Supercharge any of the above recipes by adding tea tree oil or plant derived mineral powder (or both).

When you use items which contain lemon, rinse your mouth and teeth thoroughly afterward to prevent damage to teeth enamel.

Sources included:

http://www.tbyil.com/Toothpastes_and_Tooth_Cleansers.htm
http://www.ultimate-cosmetics.com/beauty/homemade-recipes/toothpaste.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/5877451







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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2010, 11:26:16 am »
Check out Natures Gate at http://www.natures-gate.com/. I think it tastes better than Tom's.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2010, 06:11:40 pm »
Again, Desert Fox, that toothpaste contains glycerin, which coats the enamel, inhibiting the re-mineralization that should occur via saliva.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2010, 02:09:44 pm »
didn't you guys say like baking soda works?

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2010, 02:40:21 pm »
didn't you guys say like baking soda works?

My grandmother used pure baking soda for years!  Also peroxide is great to rinse with. 


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« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2010, 02:48:39 pm »
My grandmother used pure baking soda for years!  Also peroxide is great to rinse with. 


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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2010, 03:00:43 pm »
You're Welcome!   ;)
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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2010, 12:55:52 pm »
what about Nature's gate natural toothpaste with baking soda? (non-floride) I already using Nature's gate shampoo and I love it. :)

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2010, 05:33:41 pm »
about Nature's gate? DUDE, learn to read the label. Google the ingredients. I've said above things that aren't good. If it has them, it aint good.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2010, 08:49:47 am »
Burt's Bees toothpaste?

With Plaque-Fighting Cranberry Extract

100% Natural - Natural Products Association Certified

Natural, effective toothpaste clinically proven to improve oral health. With real cranberry extract known to block bacteria from adhering to teeth and gums, helping prevent plaque formation before it starts, plus added whitening power to brighten teeth.

No Artificial Colors, Flavors, Preservatives or Sweeteners

With regular brushing:

    * Whitens teeth in 2 weeks by gently removing surface stains
    * Reduces plaque
    * Contains calcium and phosphorus to promote strong, healthy teeth
    * Freshens breath
    * SLS-free

Natural Personal Care products for The Greater Good.™

    * Never any Sulfate, Parabens, Phthalates, or Petrochemicals.
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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #62 on: May 25, 2010, 08:09:03 am »
Oh, for goodness sakes, you haven't listed the ingredients. I've said that glycerin is damaging to enamel. Does it, or does it not contain glycerin. What are the ingredients, you have listed the marketing not the ingredients.

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« Reply #63 on: May 25, 2010, 08:18:09 am »
I use Tom's of Maine Fluoride free which you can buy at many Wal Mart supercenters....

You can also buy aluminum free deodorant which is great, as aluminum based deodorants cause alzheimers.
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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2010, 09:40:01 am »
I use Tom's of Maine Fluoride free which you can buy at many Wal Mart supercenters....

You can also buy aluminum free deodorant which is great, as aluminum based deodorants cause alzheimers.

EAURGH!!! Is ANYBODY listening? Damn it. Toms has carcinogenic, bio-accumulative sodium laureth sulphate and the glycerin in it coats the bloody enamel inhibiting mineral uptake from saliva and enamel needs this because it relies on saliva in the absence of a nearby blood supply. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Have any of you read my posts? Or are you just going to go round and round in circles parroting Toms of Main, Toms of Main and never bothering to look up the actual ingredients?

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2010, 09:58:01 am »


This is the brand i use, they make mouthwash too.

My gf & I use that too. Haven't seen their mouthwash yet though.

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« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2010, 12:05:01 pm »
Ugh. Looks like I have to find another toothpaste again, since Burt's Bees also has glycerin in it.

Plan, I'm not finding anything solid suggesting that glycerin is bad. Can you help me out?
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« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2010, 12:44:25 pm »
There is very little on glycerin. The best thing to do is contact those who produce glycerin free tooth powder.

Note, the reason why sugar depletes teeth is not because of fermentation, directly. It is because you need almost 50 molecules of magnesium to metabolize one molecule of glucose. But unrefined sugar, e.g. rapadura or mollasses, is rich in magnesium. So, the lack of magnesium then means saliva can't remineralize enamel, so it then becomes vulnerable to fermentation in the mouth. So you see, the bacteria aren't the actual cause.

The guy who runs this website, told me about glycerin and refers to it in the product description here:
 - http://www.red23.co.uk/Liquid-Tooth-Soap-Passion-Fruit-59ml_p_1058.html

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« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2010, 01:07:57 pm »
My wife just had three of my kids to the dentist - the dentist said that all three are collectively the healthiest set of teeth from one family that he's worked on in 20 years. My wife overheard the dental hygienist and dentist talking about while she was in the waiting area, before the dentist came out and told her.

In fact, he asked her to bring in our brand of toothpaste so that he could see what our secret was. It's flouride-free Tom's of Maine.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2010, 02:24:07 pm »
I just changed to this toothpaste and love it!

http://www.vitacost.com/Xlear-Spry-Toothpaste


I also chew their gum! 

http://www.vitacost.com/Xlear-Spry-Gum-Spearmint
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« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2012, 01:17:33 am »
You can contact your pharmacist for increasing the selling of boots. You need not worry more about the ingredients of the toothpaste as i think every component used is natural only. These products are vegetarian also.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2013, 09:16:26 am »
Baking Soda and Cloves are your best friend. The cloves help with infection, pain and odors. Before you say this is carcinogenic or that is carcinogenic as if it were a flat fix for everything, realize our bodies need some form of challenge to them. Something about dull knives should go here. I don't get sick and when i hurt i endure and heal. I like to think your body can resist most of these nasty things to an extent and won't be limiting me exposure to some of it for that reason. Then again i'm the kind of person when you say it's dangerous to do, i note it then do it.

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« Reply #72 on: February 28, 2013, 05:08:46 am »
I have been using toothpaste since birth and i don`t find anything harmful in it. I feel it is the only way to keep your mouth fresh and without any gum related issues.

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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #73 on: March 20, 2013, 06:38:06 am »
I switched to a non-fluoride toothpaste for 6 months, when I visited the dentist I had 12 holes in my teeth..

I'm not saying correlation is causation, but considering I don't eat/drink sugary food often and brush regularly gave me enough reason to go back on the fluoride. Plus the dentist obviously swore by it

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« Reply #74 on: March 20, 2013, 02:52:26 pm »
I switched to a non-fluoride toothpaste for 6 months, when I visited the dentist I had 12 holes in my teeth..

I'm not saying correlation is causation, but considering I don't eat/drink sugary food often and brush regularly gave me enough reason to go back on the fluoride. Plus the dentist obviously swore by it

Sodium Fluoride pits your teeth--it doesn't prevent cavities, it causes them!  Beside Sodium Fluoride is a toxic waste.

I stopped using Sodium fluoride 10 years ago, and the only reason I have seen a dentist, in 10 years, is because a cap wound up getting loose and causing an abscess.  The dentist couldn't believe that I was cavity free.

You need to do more research before shrugging your shoulders and starting Sodium Fluoride again, thinking it will prevent tooth decay.

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Sodium fluoride is a crystalline mineral once widely used in the United States for control of larvae and crawling insects in homes, barns, warehouses, and other storage areas. It is highly toxic to all plant and animal life. The only remaining use permitted is for wood treatement.
Ref: Recognition and Management of Pesticide Poisonings, 5th Edition,
The Office of Pesticide Programs, US EPA. Chapter 8
http://www.epa.gov/oPrison Planet Forumead1/safety/healthcare/handbook/Chap08.pdf


Sources:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/pesticides/sodium-fluoride-page.htm
http://www.fluoride-history.de/chemicals.htm
http://wakeup-world.com/2011/05/27/fluoride-is-bad-for-you/
http://www.fluoridationfacts.com/science/papers/aspects_of_toxicity.htm
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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #75 on: March 20, 2013, 03:12:25 pm »
I switched to a non-fluoride toothpaste for 6 months, when I visited the dentist I had 12 holes in my teeth..

I'm not saying correlation is causation, but considering I don't eat/drink sugary food often and brush regularly gave me enough reason to go back on the fluoride. Plus the dentist obviously swore by it

um.. fluoride is what they put into the water in Nazi Germany's Hiltler Death Camps.   I don't believe this was to prevent cavities - would anyone believe that?

It's a chemical lobotomy, that also concentrates and de-activiates the Pineal Gland.  The Pineal Gland is what is basically our connection to God, or the spiritual side of ourselves.

Fluoride is responsible for passivity, inability to think clearly, lack of memory and general fogginess.  No folks, it isn't about getting old at 25-30...40..50..  - it's about the fluoride in your water.






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Re: Non-Fluoride toothpaste
« Reply #76 on: March 20, 2013, 04:20:00 pm »
Right On  Egypt!

Especially on this point.

It's a chemical lobotomy, that also concentrates and de-activiates the Pineal Gland.  The Pineal Gland is what is basically our connection to God, or the spiritual side of ourselves.


So here is my question to every Religious leader in the country.  Why is this not part of our Sunday Sermons to rid the body of Fluoride.