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« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2008, 08:29:30 PM »
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There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and
ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by
full-time guards, but they are all empty.

BS.  Make that 799 and I doubt even that.

Camp Ripley MN has a juvenile camp, not some empty prison with full time guards, all buildings are built for the MN National Guard, this is not a Federal owned site, a state based and owned site.  How do I know?  Every summer I work as a grounds keeper, know every acre of the area, know most workers and full time Guardsmen based at Ripley; Ripley allows civilians to enter this base for hunting, fishing, exercising or the military mueseum; so don't say "one" cannot take pictures of this supposed FEMA site.  BS.  Tell me exactly where this prison is or better yet get a picture of all these full time guards standing around--this is a good laugh.

What's scary is this disinformation campaign works among Truthers and Patriots.


1. Make dates-prophecy of some impending event, like Y2K, a Rapture and the coming 2012--this will cause people to wait and do nothing, as they rely on the date to fix the problem and not themselves to fix it.  This stall tactic will create burnout to lessen the numbers and intensity.

2.  Plug the "time isn't right" to take action because not enough sheep are awakened, and that the WWW or whatever media platform will deliver them from evil and the movement with the right amount of money and people will snowball into millions. Post, Post, read, wait & listen will be the mantra--stay in house, don't come out "just yet."

3.  Always hint at a possible political solution (Ron Paul) that will save the day and we won't need to do hard work, the Republic will come as a feather bed.

4.  Have your movement hinge on one personality, no real hierachy beyond that.  Listen to him/her like it was the word of God.

5.  Be paranoid and negative and not progressive and hopeful.


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« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2008, 08:36:34 PM »
Sorry I had to move the pictures and re-post them.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2008, 08:48:20 PM »
BS.  Make that 799 and I doubt even that.

Camp Ripley MN has a juvenile camp, not some empty prison with full time guards, all buildings are built for the MN National Guard, this is not a Federal owned site, a state based and owned site.  How do I know?  Every summer I work as a grounds keeper, know every acre of the area, know most workers and full time Guardsmen based at Ripley; Ripley allows civilians to enter this base for hunting, fishing, exercising or the military mueseum; so don't say "one" cannot take pictures of this supposed FEMA site.  BS.  Tell me exactly where this prison is or better yet get a picture of all these full time guards standing around--this is a good laugh.

What's scary is this disinformation campaign works among Truthers and Patriots.


1. Make dates-prophecy of some impending event, like Y2K, a Rapture and the coming 2012--this will cause people to wait and do nothing, as they rely on the date to fix the problem and not themselves to fix it.  This stall tactic will create burnout to lessen the numbers and intensity.

2.  Plug the "time isn't right" to take action because not enough sheep are awakened, and that the WWW or whatever media platform will deliver them from evil and the movement with the right amount of money and people will snowball into millions. Post, Post, read, wait & listen will be the mantra--stay in house, don't come out "just yet."

3.  Always hint at a possible political solution (Ron Paul) that will save the day and we won't need to do hard work, the Republic will come as a feather bed.

4.  Have your movement hinge on one personality, no real hierachy beyond that.  Listen to him/her like it was the word of God.

5.  Be paranoid and negative and not progressive and hopeful.



Good advise there. I know I'm guilty of a few things like that at times.
For all we know that Beech Grove place might just be where they plan to work on money trains and the gas is for welding and such. I wish for that to be the case.
I fall into the trap of thinking EVERYTHING is sinister at times.
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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2008, 08:51:17 PM »
Have you looked very closely at the facility in the lower right hand corner of that picture?  It is actually attached to the Amtrack facility by rails.  It has a massive tank.  The pipes either go to the Amtrack facility or the large refrigeration warehouse across the street.

The wooded area at the top of the picture is where the FEMA dog training area is located.

If you look at two military camps in southern Indiana, you can see that they are already connected to Beech Grove by rail...Camp Atterbury(which already has a minimum security prison), and The Jefferson Proving Grounds which has it's own airfield and switch yards.

Raytheon also has a big presence in South Central Indiana...

USJFCOM signs cooperative research and development agreement with Raytheon
http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2006/pa110806.html

U.S. Joint Forces Command signed a cooperative research and development agreement with Raytheon to collaborate and conduct basic, applied and advanced research to address some of the challenges joint warfighters face in the urban environment.

By Robert Pursell
USJFCOM Public Affairs

(NORFOLK, Va. - Nov. 8, 2006) - U.S. Joint Forces Command (USJFCOM) signed a cooperative research and development agreement (CRADA) with Raytheon earlier this week to address some of the difficult and emerging challenges joint warfighters face in the urban environment.

A CRADA represents a non-Federal Acquisition Regulation legal agreement between USJFCOM and one or more non-government parties, such as private industry and academia. CRADAs offer both parties an opportunity to share knowledge, personnel and facilities when conducting mutually beneficial research and development (R&D).

The CRADA between USJFCOM and Raytheon is a two-year cooperative agreement, with three one-year options, focused on developing a nationally accessible operations-oriented test bed for exploration and rapid deployment of net-centric capabilities and components for use in urban environments.

Various sites throughout Indiana, including Indiana National Guard's Muscatatuck Urban Training Center and Camp Atterbury facilities, the Naval Surface Warfare Center located at Crane, Ind., and facilities owned by Purdue University will serve as this test bed. Raytheon will provide USJFCOM network access to the Indiana test bed at their Suffolk offices.

As part of the agreement, USJFCOM and Raytheon will provide scientific, engineering, and
operational expertise as needed. Both will also provide material, equipment, concepts, scenarios, modeling and simulation tools, and network access to facilitate experimentation and evaluation of capabilities and concepts.

Dr. Russ Richards, who heads the USJFCOM Office of Research and Technology Applications (ORTA), explained the importance of this CRADA.

"Joint Forces Command is the executive agent for joint urban operations and to really explore new concepts and new capabilities that support urban operations we need to do experimentation. But, we don't have a place that we can do live experimentation very well," he said.

"This CRADA will be partnering with Raytheon, but there are other players will be working with us to develop this true live urban operations test bed up in Indiana."

The Muscatatuck Urban Training Center is an ideal urban environment for joint concept development and experimentation on urban operations. It's a complete town consisting of approximately 70 buildings, a hospital, power station, and subterranean tunnels located on a thousand acres of rural, isolated property in the heart of Indiana.

The Camp Atterbury installation is the home base for many Army National Guard and United States Army Reserve units that train and mobilize in Indiana. Camp Atterbury offers the unit commander the support required to function as a complete unit for mission training.

Dr. Richard Carter, science and technology advisor for USJFCOM's Joint Urban Operations Office, said the command will benefit by using the sites to experiment with new urban-related technologies.

"We're going to have access to both Camp Atterbury and Muscatatuck. Basically the National Guard troops who will be training there will be testing our technologies," he said.

"It's the Indiana National Guard that's giving us access to Muscatatuck and Camp Atterbury. Raytheon is providing us a lot of their urban-related technologies that they want us to test and access to their network operations data center. We're bringing subject matter experts and technology to the table also," said Carter.

USJFCOM will also have access to the Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center, focused on harnessing the power of technology for the warfighter, and Purdue University, which will offer its facilities as needed.

The agreement with Raytheon is the fifth USJFCOM has entered since the Office of the Secretary of Defense delegated technology transfer authority (TTA) to the command last year.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2008, 05:57:57 AM »
Great research everyone. TY. I'm convinced.... I'm in that stage of "So what do I do NOW?" Processing the reality of all of this, balancing my persoanl life situation, family, interpersonal, job and so forth, staged food shortages etc.... I wonder what did ppl in Nazis germany and nations invaded by them do to resist..... Surviving martial law.... WOW. I have to resist and still live to carry on, hopefully.
My head is spinning.... No presidential candidate is a knight in shining white armor. There is no quick fix. The resistance will go on a very long time.... I listen to Armchair Survivalist. That has helped me. I won't go to any camps....

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2008, 10:22:08 AM »
I won't go to any camps....

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The Fema Camp 'round everybody up" theory has been around since the early 1990s

The "Fema camps" have helped the misinformation agents with point #1 greatly:

1.  Make dates-prophecy of some impending event, like Y2K, a Rapture and the coming 2012--this will cause people to wait and do nothing, as they rely on the date to fix the problem and not themselves to fix it.  This stall tactic will create burnout to lessen the numbers and intensity.

2.  Plug the "time isn't right" to take action because not enough sheep are awakened, and that the WWW or whatever media platform will deliver them from evil and the movement with the right amount of money and people will snowball into millions. Post, Post, read, wait & listen will be the mantra--stay in house, don't come out "just yet."

3.  Always hint at a possible political solution (Ron Paul) that will save the day and we won't need to do hard work, the Republic will come as a feather bed.

4.  Have your movement hinge on one personality, no real hierachy beyond that.  Listen to him/her like it was the word of God.

5.  Be paranoid and negative and not progressive and hopeful.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2008, 05:18:22 PM »
Alex mentioned on one of his videos - where he brings out the Civilian Inmate Labor Camp Papers - that for ten years the american government ran a program with some 10,000 people in these places - Does anyone have any more info on this?  Are there people who have come out and talked about it?  I had to rewind this bit 3 times to make sure I heard right!!!  It sounds unbelievable - who were these people - were they already prisoners or what???

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2008, 04:52:59 PM »
Alex mentioned on one of his videos - where he brings out the Civilian Inmate Labor Camp Papers - that for ten years the american government ran a program with some 10,000 people in these places - Does anyone have any more info on this?  Are there people who have come out and talked about it?  I had to rewind this bit 3 times to make sure I heard right!!!  It sounds unbelievable - who were these people - were they already prisoners or what???
Perhaps........Google?

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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2008, 12:08:07 AM »
Thanks Guys, some great sites there and lots of info, but still nothing from people who have already been part of the trial runs - I'm still looking for any one speaking about this - let me know if anyone has a link to something like that, I have searched Google, etc.. and found lots of info on the camps themselves, but not on that program they already ran with people in them!

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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2008, 07:35:57 AM »
There is a strategy for mass arrests and detentions.  It is a ten year plan to remove all "deport-able aliens".  It is called The Endgame Plan.

http://www.aclum.org/issues/ice_doc_gallery.php


ICE and FEMA and DHS have been field testing the mass arrest techniques...

Look into the FEMA operation at the cattle congress in Waterloo, Iowa, Spring '08 and the Swift Meat Raids, also in Iowa several years ago.


Google Civilian Inmate Labor program and notice how many "retired" military bases now have prison complexes located on their grounds.  Military bases have their own internal rail systems (and airstrips) and a connecting line to civilian railways...often these connecting lines aren't marked on maps.


I have not heard that they ran a "program" already.  So, I'm not sure what you are looking for.  The best that can be provided is evidence of a plan, the locations, and the agencies involved running mass arrest tests...including the FBI raiding large numbers of subprime mortgage lenders on the same day.
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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2008, 07:49:47 PM »
There is a strategy for mass arrests and detentions.  It is a ten year plan to remove all "deport-able aliens".  It is called The Endgame Plan.

http://www.aclum.org/issues/ice_doc_gallery.php


ICE and FEMA and DHS have been field testing the mass arrest techniques...

Look into the FEMA operation at the cattle congress in Waterloo, Iowa, Spring '08 and the Swift Meat Raids, also in Iowa several years ago.


Google Civilian Inmate Labor program and notice how many "retired" military bases now have prison complexes located on their grounds.  Military bases have their own internal rail systems (and airstrips) and a connecting line to civilian railways...often these connecting lines aren't marked on maps.


I have not heard that they ran a "program" already.  So, I'm not sure what you are looking for.  The best that can be provided is evidence of a plan, the locations, and the agencies involved running mass arrest tests...including the FBI raiding large numbers of subprime mortgage lenders on the same day.

I wonder how many of us will be classified as "deportable aliens". Deportation will be a convenient cover for executions.

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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2008, 11:34:26 PM »
We already have FEMA camp locations - they are called "ghettos" of America - where whites keep blacks and so called "Hispanics/Latinos" territorially locked!!

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« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2008, 02:32:06 AM »
We already have FEMA camp locations - they are called "ghettos" of America - where whites keep blacks and so called "Hispanics/Latinos" territorially locked!!

Know reality/Truth!!

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« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2008, 02:32:27 AM »
We already have FEMA camp locations - they are called "ghettos" of America - where whites keep blacks and so called "Hispanics/Latinos" territorially locked!!

Know reality/Truth!!

Are you for real?  ???
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« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2008, 08:02:31 PM »
Are you for real?  ???
Racist yet, very dillusional.... :D

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« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2008, 04:40:17 AM »
There are distinct... VERY distinct messages in this Video. Want proof?

Ask yourself the following questions.

1. WHY did they name the project REX-84
2. What does REX actually stand for.
3. WHY, back then, when we were fighting a cold war was it Taboo to even mention the
    Rex-84 program. When the cold war could have easily been thrown out there as the reason for it.
4. WHY did Ronald Reagan, president at the time, name the white house Dog "Rex"

These are a couple questions to get you doubting experts out there in the mix alright. The answers lie in the subtle ways certain things are hidden in plain sight. I am really curious to see who actually researches things before posting opinions on here.

There are very specific reasons the FEMA camps are located where they are. and there are very specific reasons why there are so many. Its very difficult to wrap your brain around what these camps are actually going to be used for. One way or another everyone is going to find out soon enough.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
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Preparing for Civil Unrest in America

Legislation to Establish Internment Camps on US Military Bases

By Michel Chossudovsky
 
Global Research, March 18, 2009
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12793

The Economic and Social Crisis

The financial meltdown has unleashed a latent and emergent social crisis across the United States.

What is at stake is the fraudulent confiscation of lifelong savings and pension funds, the appropriation of tax revenues to finance the trillion dollar "bank bailouts", which ultimately serve to line the pockets of the richest people in America.   

This economic crisis is in large part the result of financial manipulation and outright fraud to the detriment of entire populations, to a renewed wave of corporate bankruptcies, mass unemployment and poverty.

The criminalization of the global financial system, characterized by a "Shadow Banking" network has resulted in the centralization of bank power and an unprecedented concentration of private wealth.

Obama's "economic stimulus" package and budget proposals contribute to a further process of concentration and centralization of bank power, the cumulative effects of which will eventually resul in large scale corporate, bankruptcies, a new wave of foreclosures not to mention fiscal collapse and the downfall of State social programs. (For further details see Michel Chossudovsky, America's Fiscal Collapse, Global Research, March 2, 2009).

The cumulative decline of real economic activity backlashes on employment and wages, which in turn leads to a collapse in purchaisng power. The proposed "solution" under the Obama administration contributes to exacerbating rather than alleviating social inequalities and the process of wealth concentration.

The Protest Movement

When people across America, whose lives have been shattered and destroyed, come to realize the true face of the global "free market" system, the legitimacy of the Wall Street, the Federal Reserve and the US administration will be challenged.

A latent protest movement directed against the seat of economic and political power is unfolding.

How this process will occur is hard to predict. All sectors of American society are potentially affected: wage earners, small, medium and even large businesses, farmers, professionals, federal, State and municipal employees, students, teachers, health workers, and unemployed. Protests will initially emerge from these various sectors. There is, however, at this stage, no organized national resistance movement directed against the administration's economic and financial agenda.   

Obama's populist rhetoric conceals the true nature of macro-economic policy. Acting on behalf of Wall Street, the administration's economic package, which includes close to a trillion dollar "aid" package for the financial services industry, coupled with massive austerity measures,  contributes to precipitating America into a bottomless crisis.

"Orwellian Solution" to the Great Depression: Curbing Civil Unrest

At this particular juncture, there is no economic recovery program in sight. The Washington-Wall Street consensus prevails. There are no policies, no alternatives formulated from within the political and economic system. .

What is the way out? How will the US government face an impending social catastrophe?

The solution is to curb social unrest. The chosen avenue, inherited from the outgoing Bush administration is the reinforcement of  the Homeland Security apparatus and the militarization of civilian State institutions.

The outgoing administration has laid the groundwork. Various pieces of "anti-terrorist" legislation (including the Patriot Acts) and presidential directives have been put in place since 2001, largely using the pretext of the "Global War on Terrorism."

Homeland Security's Internment Camps

Directly related to the issue of curbing social unrest, cohesive system of detention camps is also envisaged, under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon.

A bill entitled the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645) was introduced in the US Congress in January. It calls for the establishment of six national emergency centers in major regions in the US to be located on existing military installations. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

The stated purpose of  the "national emergency centers" is to provide "temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster." In actuality, what we are dealing with are FEMA internment camps. HR 645 states that the camps can be used to "meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security."

There has been virtually no press coverage of HR 645.

These "civilian facilities" on US military bases are to be established in cooperation with the US Military. Modeled on Guantanamo, what we are dealing with is the militarization of FEMA internment facilities.

Once a person is arrested and interned in a FEMA camp located on a military base, that person would in all likelihood, under a national emergency, fall under the de facto jurisdiction of the Military: civilian justice and law enforcement including habeas corpus would no longer apply. 

HR 645 bears a direct relationship to the economic crisis and the likelihood of mass protests across America. It constitutes a further move to militarize civilian law enforcement, repealing the Posse Comitatus Act.

In the words of  Rep. Ron Paul:

"...the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough... Even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt-based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next." (Daily Paul, September 2008, emphasis added)

The proposed internment camps should be seen in relation to the broader process of militarization of civilian institutions. The construction of internment camps predates the introduction of HR 645 (Establishment of Emergency Centers) in January 2009. There are, according to various (unconfirmed) reports, some 800 FEMA prison camps in different regions of the U.S. Moreover, since the 1980s, the US military has developed "tactics, techniques and procedures" to suppress civilian dissent, to be used in the eventuality of mass protests (United States Army Field Manual 19-15 under Operation Garden Plot, entitled "Civil Disturbances" was issued in 1985)

In early 2006, tax revenues were allocated to building modern internment camp facilities. In January 2006,  Kellogg Brown and Roots, which at the time was a subsidiary of  Halliburton, received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security's  Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE):

"The contract, which is effective immediately [January 2006], provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs...

The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. (KBR, 24 January 2006, emphasis added)

The stated objectives of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) are to:

"protect national security and uphold public safety by targeting criminal networks and terrorist organizations that seek to exploit vulnerabilities in our immigration system, in our financial networks, along our border, at federal facilities and elsewhere in order to do harm to the United States. The end result is a safer, more secure America" (ICE homepage)

The US media is mum on the issue of the internment camps on US soil. While casually acknowledging the multimillion dollar contract granted to Halliburton's subsidiary, the news reports largely focused their attention on possible "cost overruns" (similar to those which occurred with KBR in Iraq).

What is the political intent and purpose of these camps? The potential use of these internment facilities to detain American citizens under a martial law situation are not an object of media debate or discussion.

Combat Units Assigned to the Homeland

In the last months of the Bush administration, prior to the November 2008 presidential elections, the Department of Defense ordered the recall of the 3rd Infantry’s 1st Brigade Combat Team from Iraq. The relocation of a combat unit from the war theater to domestic front is an integral part of the Homeland Security agenda. The BCT was assigned to assist in law enforcement activities within the US.

The BCT combat unit was attached to US Army North, the Army's component of US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM). The 1st BCT and other combat units would be called upon to perform specific military functions in the case of civil unrest:

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.(

(See Gina Cavallaro,  Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1, Army Times, September 8, 2008).

Under the proposed withdrawal of US forces from Iraq under the Obama administration, one expects that other combat units will be brought home from the war theater and reassigned in the United States.

The evolving national security scenario is characterized by a mesh of civilian and military institutions:

-Army combat units working with civilian law enforcement, with the stated mission to curb "social unrest".

- the establishment of new internment camps under civilian jurisdiction located on US military facilities. 

The FEMA internment camps are part of the Continuity of Government (COG), which would be put in place in the case of martial law.

The internment camps are intended to "protect the government" against its citizens, by locking up protesters as well as political activists who might challenge the legitimacy of the Administration's national security, economic or military agenda. 

Spying on Americans: The Big Brother Data Bank

Related to the issue of internment and mass protests, how will data on American citizens be collected?

How will individuals across America be categorized?

What are the criteria of the Department of Homeland Security?

In  a 2004 report of the Homeland Security Council entitled Planning Scenarios, pertaining to the defense of the Homeland, the following categories of potential "conspirators" were identified: 

 "foreign [Islamic] terrorists" ,

"domestic radical groups", [antiwar and civil rights groups]

"state sponsored adversaries" ["rogue states", "unstable nations"]

"disgruntled employees" [labor and union activists].

In June of last year, the Bush administration issued a National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD 59- HSPD 24) entitled Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security (For Further details see Michel Chossudovsky, "Big Brother" Presidential Directive: "Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security", Global Research, June 2008)

Adopted without public debate or Congressional approval, its relevant  procedures are far-reaching. They are related to the issue of civil unrest. They are also part of the logic behind the establishment of FEMA internment camps under HR 645. .
 
NSPD 59 (Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security) goes far beyond the narrow issue of biometric identification, it recommends the collection and storage of "associated biographic" information, meaning information on the private lives of US citizens, in minute detail, all of which will be "accomplished within the law":

"The contextual data that accompanies biometric data includes information on date and place of birth, citizenship, current address and address history, current employment and employment history, current phone numbers and phone number history, use of government services and tax filings. Other contextual data may include bank account and credit card histories, plus criminal database records on a local, state and federal level. The database also could include legal judgments or other public records documenting involvement in legal disputes, child custody records and marriage or divorce records."(See Jerome Corsi, June 2008)

The directive uses 9/11 and the "Global War on Terrorism" as an all encompassing justification to wage a witch hunt against dissenting citizens, establishing at the same time an atmosphere of fear and intimidation across the land.

It also calls for the integration of various data banks as well as inter-agency cooperation in the sharing of information, with a view to eventually centralizing the information on American citizens.

In a carefully worded text, NSPD 59 "establishes a framework" to enable the Federal government and its various police and intelligence agencies to: 

"use mutually compatible methods and procedures in the collection, storage, use, analysis, and sharing of biometric and associated biographic and contextual information of individuals in a lawful and appropriate manner, while respecting their information privacy and other legal rights under United States law."

The NSPD 59 Directive recommends:  "actions and associated timelines for enhancing the existing terrorist-oriented identification and screening processes by expanding the use of biometrics".

The procedures under NSPD 59 are consistent with an earlier June 2005 decision which consisted increating a "domestic spy service", under the auspices of the FBI.  (For further details see Michel Chossudovsky, Bush Administration creates "Secret State Police", June 30, 2005)

Working hand in glove with Homeland Security (DHS), the proposed "domestic intelligence department" would combine FBI counterterrorism, intelligence and espionage operations into a single service.

The new department operating under the auspices of the FBI would have the authority to "seize the property of people deemed to be helping the spread of WMD": They would be able to "spy on people in America suspected of terrorism or having critical intelligence information, even if they are not suspected of committing a crime." (NBC Tonight, 29 June 2005).\




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Text of H.R. 645: National Emergency Centers Establishment Act

This version: Introduced in House.

This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration. This is the latest version of the bill available on this website.

[SOURCE: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645]





HR 645 IH

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 645

To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 22, 2009

Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

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A BILL

To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘National Emergency Centers Establishment Act’.

SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--

(1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;

(2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;

(3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and

(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.

(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--

(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;

(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;

(3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;

(4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;

(5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;

(6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

(A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and

(B) the other shall be used daily for training; and

(7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.

(c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

(1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.

(2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.

(3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.

(4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.

(5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.

(6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.

(d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.

(e) Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.

(f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

(g) Reports-

(1) PRELIMINARY REPORT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an outline of the reasons why the site was selected;

(B) an outline of the need to construct, repair, or update any existing infrastructure at the site;

(C) an outline of the need to conduct any necessary environmental clean-up at the site;

(D) an outline of preliminary plans for the transfer of control of the site from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of Homeland Security, if necessary under subsection (e); and

(E) an outline of preliminary plans for entering into a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f).

(2) UPDATE REPORT- Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an update on the information contained in the report as required by paragraph (1);

(B) an outline of the progress made toward the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(C) an outline of the progress made toward entering a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(D) recommendations regarding any authorizations and appropriations that may be necessary to provide for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(3) FINAL REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) finalized information detailing the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(B) the finalized cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(C) any additional information pertinent to the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(4) ADDITIONAL REPORTS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act.

SEC. 4. LIMITATIONS ON STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.

This Act does not affect--

(1) the authority of the Federal Government to provide emergency or major disaster assistance or to implement any disaster mitigation and response program, including any program authorized by the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121 et seq.); or

(2) the authority of a State or local government to respond to an emergency.

SEC. 5. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

There is authorized to be appropriated $180,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2009 and 2010 to carry out this Act. Such funds shall remain available until expended.

SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act, the following definitions apply:

(1) CLOSED MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term ‘closed military installation’ means a military installation, or portion thereof, approved for closure or realignment under the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note) that meet all, or 2 out of the 3 following requirements:

(A) Is located in close proximity to a transportation corridor.

(B) Is located in a State with a high level or threat of disaster related activities.

(C) Is located near a major metropolitan center.

(2) EMERGENCY- The term ‘emergency’ has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(3) MAJOR DISASTER- The term ‘major disaster’ has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(4) MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term ‘military installation’ has the meaning given such term in section 2910 of the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note).



 

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2009, 04:36:18 PM »
We Have Seen the Enemy...

By Timothy V. Gatto

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22246.htm

March 19, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- The United States continues to show its ignorance to the rest of the world by grouping everyone into friends, enemies, and potential friends or enemies. This translates loosely into categorizing the nations or cultures around the world into friend or foe. The worst part of this whole scenario is that many in this country actually believe all this rhetoric. We are a nation that has elevated national opinion into a fine art. In reality, we are a country that has a media that tells us how to think. It tells us what we like, what we approve of, what we despise and how we should act. We have become what we once hated. Politically correct Americans today have become the “plastic people” we criticized in the sixties and seventies.

This has made life easier. We can join the conversation around just about any water cooler and fit right in. We know what we can say safely and what opinions to keep to ourselves. We have developed an entire vocabulary that enables us to sound wise and learned while not really saying anything of consequence. We have come to the realization that the only people who have valid opinions are in the media. If it hasn’t been uttered in front of a camera or written about in a newspaper or magazine, it just isn’t a valid opinion and not fit for public discussion. We have changed from the most innovative and revolutionary nation on Earth from our beginnings, into a nation of that has perfected the art of “group-think”. We have perfected the art of acquiescence and learned the waypoints to the paths of least resistance, and we have done so willingly.

Americans have learned where to tune into current opinions. We have designated the spokesmen for the right, the left, and the vocabulary we need to mimic the same arguments we hear in the media, replete with the “buzzwords” and catch phrases. We have freed ourselves from the burden of having our own opinions and making our own decisions. Critical thinking is frowned upon in our schools and in our boardrooms. Thinking “outside the box” has become a metaphor for saying the same thing in a different way. Those that truly “think outside the box” will find themselves looking up the latest keywords to slip into their resumes.

How did a nation that took so much pride in lively debate and different opinions become a nation that questions the loyalty of people who have dared to disagree with the policymakers in Washington? When did political dissent become a reason to end up grounded at an airport because you found out at a most inconvenient time that your name had been mysteriously added to a “no-fly list”? When did the American government begin building FEMA camps and what exactly is their purpose? When did Congress become the rubber stamp for policies of reading the correspondence and listening in on the conversations of the American public?

9/11 was the start. It doesn’t matter at this point who was behind the attack on America and what the reasons were, the results of that day have been etched into the moral fabric of the American nation. "We have met the enemy... and he is us" ( http://www.igopogo.com/we_have_met.htm )

Indeed! We have certainly met the enemy and he does appear to be us, who could have known that in 1951 such prophetic words would be written almost sixty years before they came to be the truth? Our society has become afraid of its own people. Who is the enemy? Why were the Patriot Acts, the Military Commissions Act of 2006, the expanded FISA laws, The John Warner Defense Act (that suspended Posse Comitatus) and all of the draconian attacks on our privacy and our freedoms enacted? Is the enemy of today so much more dangerous than the enemies that came before them? Exactly who ARE the enemies of today? How did it come to be that Congress was threatened with martial law if it didn’t pass the first bailout of the financial institutions? Is radical Islam the enemy? Are America’s enemies our own dissident citizens? Is our own government acting contrary to our own best interests? Are religions becoming political movements? What exactly is “Christian Zionism” and why are religious leaders praying for Armageddon? What is so wrong with the planet that the only solution to its problems is its destruction?

This nation is clearly at odds with itself. Are we working towards a society that stifles political diversity? Are we truly afraid of our own citizens? While the rest of the world gradually eases religion out of governmental policy, America seems to embrace religious extremes. We criticize Islamic religious fundamentalists; we accept Christian fundamentalists and support a Jewish State that denies the most basic freedoms to its citizens that are not Jewish while they support right wing Jewish leaders that become more radical in calling for the destruction of everything Palestinian with each passing day.
These are truly the times that try men’s souls by the discourse of the public. These problems exist but they are kept out of sight by a mainstream media that tries its best to ignore them. It won’t be too long before we realize that the freedoms we have fought for and respected are non-existent. We already need passports to travel to the Caribbean and laws are in place that will require passports to visit Canada and Mexico. The truth is that Mexico is swiftly becoming a failed State largely because of the American “War on Drugs” that has made drug trafficking such a lucrative business that it threatens the government that tries to enforce nearly impossible drug laws demanded by the United States.

Our “War on Dugs” our “Global War on Terror” and our meddling in other nations politics and our military bases in over 130 different countries have made America a nation to be feared. Meanwhile America can’t even come to terms with the problems that besiege it. We not only refuse to come to terms with our problems, we don’t even acknowledge them. The worldwide Depression has become the focal point of our government and the people; while we watch out freedoms we have enjoyed for so long come to an end.

We need to confront the all the situations that threaten the way we see ourselves. We have seen the enemy and he is us. We may not have started this assault on America, but through our silence and inaction we have encouraged our own demise. America could also become a failed State unless we face our greatest enemy; ourselves.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2009, 11:39:59 PM »
You have to think... the more important people... the thinkers and whatnot, they are the ones the gov will go for first. People that can plan shit out or create things or get people together. If stuff actually goes so far that we revolt or have to fight back, one of the first things we have to do is get these people out.

Right now, get the names of these places. Then, get directions and file it. Not on your computer but something printed out. Everything important, like field manuels and combat training and gardening... print all of it. I've got a library of this kind of stuff... and I'm an exsoldier and know most of it. I do it because I will teach what I need and it'd be good to think there are others prepared for the same thing. (of course, I'm probably guaranteeing my cell in one of these camps by saying this)
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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2010, 01:08:45 PM »
This is a great movie. Please check this out before they ship us out. Executive Order #1090 will shut down highways, get you at the check point, and away you go.

http://campfema.com/
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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2010, 01:53:39 AM »
I saw a few Halliburton camps during by brief stint working the oil fields in Wyoming in the 80's.  They were in very remote areas and were used to house the roughnecks.  It would not take much to convert these for a different application.  I have no idea if these camps still exist or not, but I'm sure Halliburton still builds camps for their workers. 

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« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2011, 02:38:15 PM »
Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.
regarding the one listed at the fort wainwright mental health facility near fairbanks, alaska...

Ever since I started hearing people talk about how "The sports stadiums are the prison camps" I've been a little leery about an area I'm very familiar with.

It's the area on the left side of this picture, 'kiwanis park.' Follow the blue and purple lines. At the left is the park area, at the right is the "Fort Wainwright mental health facility," the area alleged to be the biggest detention center in america....  Right click/view image to see the whole thing


At the right side there's a small skatepark right in the middle of all those baseball fields, and I ride my bike through there all the time in the summer.

There's a little spot where there are always hummers/light tanks parked near a loading dock. I've always wondered what it was there for, because I've never seen anyone there. It's just a locked up parking lot with a loading dock-to-nowhere and a bunch of military vehicles, fenced off with razor wire. In recent years there've been more vehicles and they've built some structures. Put these coordinates into google maps/earth, use street view, and go past the tank... 64.842528,-147.75223

According to google maps, the place is called the "Alaska State Defense Force," and there's another building up the road that I just found out is called "Mechanical Contractors." Creepy.
There's another building right before it, I think a VFW building, with a tank sitting on the corner of the block.

All those baseball fields right there are fenced in and they all have bleachers/stadium seating and/or a watch/guard shack or tower of some sort.

There's a school to the right in the image, and a convention center to the left. The school was just rebuilt within the past few years and the playground is completely fenced in. The convention center has huge cement blocks in the back parking lot that have never been used to my knowledge, but they're the kind you see used as temporary roadblocks all. The school and the convention center are the tallest buildings in the area by far, and have a clear view over all of the fields.

In a direct straight line down from the convention center, about a half-mile down the road (out of frame) is our actual prison.

So I've been leery of that area for a while now, but my reason for replying to this thread is that the river, and the train tracks just on the other side of the river, both run directly to the spot marked at fort wainwright as a prison camp location. If I was suspicious before, I'm... uh... very suspicious now. The railroad also forks at one point and carries on to another 'prison camp spot marker' at eilson air force base...


Ironically, I was walking around town after getting out of jail a few years ago and noticed a military helicopter landing in one of the baseball fields, the one directly connected to the convention center parking lot. I got close enough to get an alright picture of it as it was taking off again -


There's a big hospital right under the word "center" in this image, I forgot to mark it.


There's an indoor ice hockey rink right next to the hospital, and a curling club building right next to the defense force building/complex, if that means anything to anyone...

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« Reply #63 on: August 24, 2011, 02:42:13 PM »
Ever since I started hearing people talk about how "The sports stadiums are the prison camps" I've been a little leery about an area I'm very familiar with.

It's the area on the left side of this picture, 'kiwanis park.'
Anyone know much about Kiwanis International, in regards to detention/disaster centers?
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Kiwanis International is an international, coeducational service club founded in 1915. It is headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana. Current membership is 240,000 members in 7,700 clubs in 80 nations. The average age is 57; the membership is 74% men and 26% women.

The name “Kiwanis” was coined from an Otchipew American Indian expression, "Nunc Kee-wanis", variously translated as "we trade," "we share our talents,"[4] "we make a noise," or "we meet."[5] This was originally translated as "We build" which became the original motto of Kiwanis.[6] The current motto is "Serving the Children of the World". Members of the club are called Kiwanians.

Kiwanis International is headed by a Board of Trustees, an International President and other officers. These officers are elected at the annual convention of Kiwanis International. There are fifty three administrative districts, each headed by a Governor, and the districts are further divided into service areas called divisions, comprising 12 to 20 clubs and headed by a Lieutenant Governor. Every club has a president and board of directors.

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« Reply #64 on: August 25, 2011, 04:10:19 AM »
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, but...

Parnell: Alaskans not prepared for disasters
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JUNEAU, Alaska - Individual Alaskans are not prepared for a disaster, Gov. Sean Parnell said Wednesday in urging residents to have enough food and water on hand to sustain themselves for up to a week.

Parnell, who has made disaster readiness a priority of his administration, said he remembers when Alaskans had supplies in their garages and pantries, particularly in the years after the magnitude 9.2 earthquake and tsunami that killed nearly 130 people in 1964. Today, Parnell said, many Alaskans are used to going to the store several times a week for food for dinner - a luxury they may not have if a disaster strikes.

During a news conference in Anchorage, in which he was joined by that city's mayor, Dan Sullivan, and state emergency management director John Madden, the governor emphasized personal responsibility and said everyone should have on hand a week's worth of food and purified water in case.

He said it's not so much a matter of if something will happen, but when.


Madden said the state itself in evaluating its own readiness looks at events that would disrupt delivery of essential services: food, water, shelter, power, medicine. He said those could include such things as an earthquake, tsunami or cold weather.

Parnell believes the state is doing pretty well when it comes to its own readiness. He said the Legislature this year appropriated money for generators and water purification. He said plans are also being worked on to establish food caches. He planned to hold a Cabinet meeting on the issue of readiness Friday.

Earlier this year, in announcing he wanted to focus greater attention on readiness, Parnell told key staff that he wanted Alaska to be prepared not only for natural disasters but also for unemployment and "civil unrest" in the Lower 48 "that could lead to an influx here."

He said Wednesday that unrest could include dissatisfaction in urban areas. He said he hasn't heard of any such issues so far.

The governor has said he wants Alaskans to be prepared for anything. To that end, public service announcements urging readiness have aired.

Sullivan, who oversees the state's largest city, said officials are engaged in "constant" drills and exercises. Personally, though, he admits he's not as prepared as he should be. He noted that complacency can set in as there is distance from a major disaster.

Sullivan said he planned to use the weekend to do some shopping.

Read more: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - Parnell Alaskans not prepared for disasters

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« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2011, 05:13:39 AM »
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The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass
exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be
quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84
allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into
prisons.

I have read a lot about these camps and I am still confused. Nightmares like "1984" and "Prey World" will soon become reality if things go on like this. And the mass of the people just watches everything...

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2013, 08:10:03 PM »
I live in Ruidoso and play Texas Hold'em at the Indian casino with German Airforce quite often.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #67 on: April 29, 2013, 02:12:17 AM »
http://youtu.be/qbup0FGwZOU

Video showing that FEMA is listed in the Army manual (Internment and Resettlement Operations)

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« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2013, 05:36:47 AM »
I live in Ruidoso and play Texas Hold'em at the Indian casino with German Airforce quite often.

What is the conversation with German Airforce like?

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« Reply #69 on: April 29, 2013, 05:43:00 PM »
They are simple in their words, just because English is their second language.  However, I see more and more of them.  I ask them exactly what they are doing and most of them are medical, mechanic, or technology based fields.  I have played cards with a US soldier that specifically works on drones.  He gets weird when I ask him questions.

Another story...  I wait tables in this resort town during the Race Horse Season and other busy times of the year.  I waited on a table of 6 guys. All of them but one was 50 years plus.  The younger guy reminded me of a friend I had growing up.  I like to ask people questions like, "Were are yall from?" or "Who do yall work for?"
Well, I asked them who they worked for and it was like I asked them if they had panties on.  After about 5 seconds the oldest man and obvious leader said, 'FEMA'.  I said cool and walked away.  The way they acted made me search the net for FEMA because I had no clue what it was.  I consider myself a well informed person.

I did not know of FEMA or Alex Jones.  I had already concluded that 9-11 was conspired by criminal globalist elements.  I went home and searched the internet for FEMA and the rest is history. 

http://youtu.be/qbup0FGwZOU

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« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2013, 06:21:39 PM »
www.bepreparedkansas.com

That's what woke up 17 people I know.  Maybe not total wake up......but they have opened their eyes a little better.  I've seen the razor wire fences.  Had pictures I took with my wife but they were taken by highway patrol.  When I got my digital camera back later it was wiped.

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« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2013, 06:30:56 PM »
Ruidoso NM is by Area 51 and 3 Air Force Bases one of which is special forces.  There are German Military here too.

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« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2013, 06:46:39 PM »
I`m pretty sure there is something going on up in Taos, NM where the National Guard Armory is also. When I lived up there a few years ago, I witnessed a black unmarked helicopter just doing circle after circle until it had eventually covered the entire town. I had a perfect view from the foothills. It took most of the daylight hours to do. It never got overhead of me, but it came close enough that I could see it was unmarked.
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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2013, 06:51:44 PM »
I hear sonic booms 3 or 4 times a week.  Some of them are almost window shattering but most are fairly soft.

I am near White Sands MIssle Range where they are testing the lasers.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2013, 06:53:49 PM »
My buddy saw one come of the Sandia Mountains. Shot straight up. Scared the crap out of him,
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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #75 on: April 29, 2013, 08:33:32 PM »
I havent seen a laser yet.  But the booms are continuous.

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #76 on: April 29, 2013, 08:49:40 PM »
Yeah, it had to be a good 10 or 12 years ago since my bro. saw that massive laser fire from the National Laboratory. They`ve probably had to move it to a less populated area by now,
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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #77 on: April 29, 2013, 09:04:07 PM »
I have asked plenty of service men about lasers.  They are clueless

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Re: Known FEMA Camp Locations Listing
« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2017, 01:11:28 AM »
I have asked plenty of service men about lasers.  They are clueless

your average solider / service member wouldn't know about lasers as they  most likely do not have security clearance to even be briefed on it.

When future weapons become a reality for the military they will be trained on the use of those weapons in basic training.


as to FEMA camps, i have glazed at a few documents and responses.  The executive orders which are of no surprise to be in existence  and the camps as an idea to contain the civilian populace I find too hard for the US gov to accomplish on a scale other than local small areas or groups of dissidents / militia prisoners/ illegal immigrants/or refugees.

Does anyone  even question why FEMA has these camps , why they have barbed wire fencing with mini towers, and how that is supposed to help those of natural disasters which is what i an i think others original thought the organization was intended for. it makes sense to use some of these camps to ease overflow from prisons etc. 

The executive orders that claim all belongs to the government in the case of the apocalypse  or a take over by the government, i find those laws to be nonsense and to be overturned by the constitution and bill of rights so those laws can sit and spin. The FEMA Camps, Good luck to the government if they actually try to use them, that would mean something catastrophic has taken place either natural disaster in case or a time of war, in either instance it means our government will be spread thin and will need to consider where they are going to spread the man power to actually run and have armed guards in place that are semi competent.

It would take a hitler like person to have control of a country lock , n barrel to effectively put into place the executive orders and FEMA camps that makes some people fearful .