How many non white folk post here and...

[skyfind]

It doesn´t matter the "color/race" and we have to stop with this kind of divisions, we are humans and this is all we need, what really matters is what is inside of the people, what is in their minds, their heart, their soul/spirit, or the way you want to call it.

If you read my post, you will find that I don't think it does matter what race someone belongs too, but what does matter is that the NWO has found ways to combat our ability to wake up people of various ethnic groups by their use of propaganda. To ignore that problem is to turn a blind eye to those who may not look at the information for fear of being labeled a anti Semite.

continue thinking in their way(even if it is to fight it) is spread their propaganda, in your mind and with the ones that you talk

[sacerd]

It doesn´t matter the "color/race" and we have to stop with this kind of divisions, we are humans and this is all we need, what really matters is what is inside of the people, what is in their minds, their heart, their soul/spirit, or the way you want to call it.
continue thinking in their way(even if it is to fight it) is spread their propaganda, in your mind and with the ones that you talk

What propaganda do you think I am spreading?
I am telling people "look the media is portraying us as klansmen we need to find a way to stop it, so that more people of all races will know what we are about, and that we do not come bearing flaming crosses!"

How is this spreading propaganda?

[skyfind]

just don´t think in that division that they put in the society, that is all, talk don´t thinking in "how to fight the virtual division" that they put in the world, or you will be spreading it believing that the only way to unite humans is "fighting" their ideas; just don´t think in that, do as this "division" doesn´t exist and you don´t have to "fight it"

[Freeski]

There may be some interesting stats and "trends" in all of this but it is all insignificant in the big picture. The issue remains: freedom vs. tyranny.

[John Gault]

How many "non white" folk post here and how did you hear about Alex Jones?

How do you guys/gals deal with being a part of a community that is often times associated with white supremacy, (although its not) and do you think that this stigma makes it more difficult to "wake up" those who belong to a minority group?

I dunno I just thought I would ask, as I have never met a member of of a minority group who was a aware of  the NWO in person as cant help but wonder if this is by design.

I do not believe you meant to have your post as racist. Maybe because I am not a minority, but when posting a hot topic you most choose your words carefully. Saying "non white" in your first sentence wasn't off to a good start, but you did ask good questions. Many gave you here why some minorities are enlighten, informed and organized against the vast machine which is very true. There is also many who are part of the vast machine, look at the ones who choose to vote. The vast majority of these minorities vote with the Democratic party and are part of the growing NWO.

BUT this is hardly a minority problem, the White Anglo Saxon gentlemen () started and control the NWO. So where I support your right to ask a provocative question and do not believe your post is wrong to ask, I disagree with your premise. I say your question needs to be directed at all citizens of the USA  no matter what their race, creed, or religion and enlighten to them the growing problems we all face. 

Sacerd keep up asking difficult questions, there is nothing wrong being thought provoking. No matter what others may think.   

[GoingEtheric]

9/11 turned me on to Alex. Don't have to be radical, no one has a monopoly over the truth.

[kermitthefrayer]

I'm Cherokee Indian Prussian Israeli Russian and Spanish....

[shirteesdotnet]

While im a white dude with roots from Poland & Germany, I will say many of the african/jamaican/reggae crowd is fully awake to the world and 'system' we live in. Id worked in the reggae biz back in the 90's for several years and everyone in the reggae biz I was in contact with talked about the system thats in place, the money masters, the world elite, etc. Their way to fix everything is with love and peace. Its a good idea, but I dont think its going to float if people like Blackwater are breaking in doors with automatic rifles.

Im still in touch with several prominent reggae musicians, almost all of them called me up on on election day and apologized to me for what their black brothers would be doing... voting for Obama. I mean everyone gets the "put a black guy in the white house" scenario, but Obama wasnt a good choice. One reggae guy I know has videos all over Youtube denouncing the new world order. He had won several top reggae awards in Jamaica, is an author and painter, not to mention 7 or 8 albums under his belt. I remember he called me up on 9/11 and said something didnt seem right about it. Like an inside job, but I thought he was crazy. He kept telling me "history repeats itself mon! history repeats itself!" I still thought he was a bit crazy  But when I showed him the 20 dollar bill trick by folding it, he was blown away. I told him to go fold a 5, 10, and 50 bill also. He has been a 9/11 truther ever since. God, how time flies. And then I found the PP forums and here I am. We are all one people. We need to work together and fight the system and fight the elite.

[life0repeats]

i get the point of the initial post.  i think some posters just gotta relax.  this is a real issue that was brought up.  a lot of times 9/11 truth groups and other similar groups get painted by the mainstream media as being fringe loonies and will make sure to have footage of a white supremist and/or anti-semetic group as being the main part of the movement.  this plays into discrediting the movement.  it also is a way to keep the "divide and conquer" assault going.  I know even for myself there was a transitional period.  At times I felt uncomfortable cause the piece of the forum that is at times too passionate about something like welfare and start to paint the same stereotypical picture of it being minorities cheating the system and not nearly as passionate about corporate welfare when that's a much larger problem.  but even with little things like that we gotta remain focused on the bigger picture.  trying to get 9/11 truth out there and trying to stay alert as to what's going on with the government and it doing its best to take away our rights while playing us against each other to distract us.

[aLLyOuRbAsE]

im glad this thread has seen some more rational replies now.

sacerd, obviously the choice of using the words "non-whites" in your opening sentence probably coloured a few opinions, as John Gault mentioned, whether you used those words jokingly, ignorantly, or facetiously, matters little to me in context.

racism is a funny one, to merely talk or think of humans as different races, is in effect, racist, however, as we cannot deny our own eyes, a more suitable definition would be a crime or discrimination based on a personal motive toward the race of another person.

in the latter, it would not be racist to think ill, as it were, of different races, as the crime is defined by the action, however, it would not be healthy either. the only way to combat what would essentially be "thought crime" (thinking ill of someone based on their race), would be the independent and peaceful action of friends, family, communities, and the world at large.

thus, the post made by skyfind, saying to fight racism we must use love, or in other words there's nothing to fight/it doesnt exist, is actually pretty much the truth.

lastly, sacerd, as mod of this board, i did not find your OP racist, although please from now, do not be surprised by reactionary replies if your post has controversial and possibly inflammatory content.

[xfahctor]

I do find it strange that when ever I post in a mainstream forum on topics of the patriot movement, there is always at least one who inevitably, in obsessive compulsive fashion, responds with charges of me in white sheets or that I'm racist or something to thateffect. I try hard not to fault the individual and keep it in perspective that it is the social programming at work.
 Right after the elections, I found a post online, the most blatent call for open revolution I have seen yet, far surpassing anything I have seen even in here. It was taken down quickly for obvious reasons, but realizing it would disapear, I was quick enough to copy it. I later posted the quote to illustrate a point in a mainstream forum, using quotes and making sure everyone understood it wasn't my words, I was just trying to illustrate the mood that is growing out there. The post said nothing about race, yet it was immediatly branded as being by a white supremecy group by a few people. The person who wrote it, was in fact african american.

[Pheonix Renewed]

I think that waking up the minority races is a VERY important thing, and I make a point to talk with every one of them I come into contact with who will sit down and chat with me for a few.

There was a post here the other day about a black woman who had been sterilized as a young woman. It's important to speak with people of ethnic descent (it's so hard to know what words we can use these days that won't offend SOMEONE  ) because they are a MAJOR target of the eugenics program themselves.

Please don't fall for the trap of racism. Even if someone says something that is racist, remember that they have been INDOCTRINATED TO THINK THAT WAY, and they know no better way. Often, they say things that are racist without even being aware they are being racist. Their intent may well be the best, and they simply don't GET IT.

Obviously, some people are clearly racist, but if a person says something ignorant, but does so in a way that shows that it's ignorance, not hate... perhaps educating them kindly would be better than feeding into the NWO's desire to use race as a weapon AGAINST US ALL. A way to divide and conquer.

If the truth movement is seen as racist, then while that may be the fault of some truthers, remember that its roots are straight in the NWO and the vampires that seek to leech off of us all and kill us ALL.

With respect, if you wish to be respected for, in spite of, or without regard to the color of your skin, do unto others as you would have done unto you. Don't judge me by the color (or lack thereof) of my skin, either. Like you and everyone else, I'm just doing the best I can. I want very much to see equality for all people, our HUMAN rights protected against those Usurpers who think themselves above us ALL.

I might be ignorant and not really know how to act "properly" in the presence of people of whatever ethnicities. But I want to do the best I can, I would die for them just as fast as "my own kind," and when I say stupid shit, it ain't because I hate you, it's because I've been raised in a culture that set out from day one to MAKE ME STUPID. I'm doing my best not to be, but cut us some slack. Some of us are trying, however inadequately or even inappropriately. We care, we mean well, and there are two ways in which we ARE absolutely all equal:

-- The usurpers want to kill me just as much as they want to kill you. They want to kill you just as much as they want to kill me. However you want it worded.

-- We're human beings.


I may not know a lot else in how to relate to your culture or your opinions or the pain you experience as a result of the race wars. But I do give a damn. I do want to stand beside you and choose life for each other and our children. I don't give a shit what color your skin is, I care that you're a human being.

All I ask is that you don't oppress me, and that you don't hold me responsible for the actions of people in the past who did terrible things.I don't think that's a courtesy that is too much for either one of us to ask of each other.

[Dudicus_Maximus]

I like the above post.

[roWan99]

I think this post is legit.  Look at all of the good dialouge it has created.  We are definitely in this together, I do agree!  However, the topic of racism is pertinent to discussions of politics & society no matter how you slice it.  I have been here only a short time and have witnessed racism and misogyny/sexism much more frequently than I would have imagined.  Silence only perpetuates such destructive practices which leads to division.     

[Blowback]

A lot of people on this board are quick to label someone a troll or a racist.  I don't think your post was racist and I too would like to know in particular how many black folks we have here. 

It just nice to know the black folks are putting aside the cultural programming and listening to hillbilly Alex Jones for advice instead of Obama, or Jay Z.

[2Revolutions]

I'm black.  I woke up under the Clinton Administration.  There just wasn't something right about the "First Black President"  .  I started investigating the Clinton body count and  OKC bombing and went down the rabbit hole.  I started listening to Alex Jones a couple years after 9/11.  I knew it was inside job, but didn't know all the facts.  I very glad I found this forum.  I learned alot about eugenics aspect of NWO plan.  GMO food, vaccines, fluoride in the water, and so on.  I have made lifestyle changes that have improved my health. 

NWO likes create tension and hatred between blacks and whites and divide us with petty crap.  But we share a common fate in this country.  Bless all of you who stand and spread the truth. 

[Freeski]

I'm black.  I woke up under the Clinton Administration.  There just wasn't something right about the "First Black President"  .  I started investigating the Clinton body count and  OKC bombing and went down the rabbit hole.  I started listening to Alex Jones a couple years after 9/11.  I knew it was inside job, but didn't know all the facts.  I very glad I found this forum.  I learned alot about eugenics aspect of NWO plan.  GMO food, vaccines, fluoride in the water, and so on.  I have made lifestyle changes that have improved my health. 

NWO likes create tension and hatred between blacks and whites and divide us with petty crap.  But we share a common fate in this country.  Bless all of you who stand and spread the truth. 

Well said! I'm white and woke up when three things came to a head on 9/11. First, I was actually writing a novel at that time which involved, in part, a major war in the middle east. I was already a few years into my PR career so I knew a bit about propaganda, how the media works, and politics. Thirdly, 9/11 itself - September 11th, 2001. That just created too many questions.

[plantop14]

I'm black.  I woke up under the Clinton Administration.  There just wasn't something right about the "First Black President"  .  I started investigating the Clinton body count and  OKC bombing and went down the rabbit hole.  I started listening to Alex Jones a couple years after 9/11.  I knew it was inside job, but didn't know all the facts.  I very glad I found this forum.  I learned alot about eugenics aspect of NWO plan.  GMO food, vaccines, fluoride in the water, and so on.  I have made lifestyle changes that have improved my health. 

NWO likes create tension and hatred between blacks and whites and divide us with petty crap.  But we share a common fate in this country.  Bless all of you who stand and spread the truth. 

Amen Bro, you are so right about the tension and hate that they try to create..............oh, and by the way I'm a "cracker" and I love everyone!!!!!

[rampant]

I am a person of color.  I think that the problem we have is any time we use "color" it conotates (sic) racism.  I like to think like what Tony Brown (formerly the Tony Borwn Journal) proposes that we should look at our predicaments as similar to others mostly based on our economic situations not color.  We do share similar goals and desires, albeit not their racial agendas, of those that are white supremacists.  We do not have to love each other but make life more bearable for all.  Read Tony Brown's "Empower The People" (first part only) for an insightfull perspective.

[Triadtropz]

Im white, but dont think theirs anything supremicist about wanting to stay free....thats whats at stake..freedom.

[canandy]

i dont care what color  we are we are all one of the same   

[feellikemore_dot_com]

I'm korean and white, raised white, - as much as you can be around Fort Hood, Tx. There's such a cultural diversity, and sadly, relatively nothing prospering from the area that tries to suck the money out of gi's. except - that there is a huge acceptance of cultural differences. 

anyways, but make a long story short - i think the most important thing is to understand how policies/world view affects all cultures as best as possible, and to establish what you pursue in respects not just towards your fellow white-man, but towards all Americans.  certain views that may be affected:

[the following is speaking in generalities, as to how America has relationships with most people of these ethnicity's and certainly does not imply limitations/mindsets of individuals within those demographics. i know that this is prejudice;- prejudging, but bare with it for the overall idea that these are just considerations]

Black people are commonly more aware of government corruption, as being the main target of it since this country was founded. At the same time, I believe they are typically in a position of distrust for the system and more concerned about their own current problems (which i feel they should be). Given the timeline of this country they are just now starting to get out of the ghettos, they are just now starting to overcome the CIA's crack and heroin situations. I think in order to have a truth movement that would appeal to blacks, we need to state that we oppose the oppression of all people, and i personally believe we need to acknowlege former oppressions and set out to correct these problems, before trust can be established.

other issues include border patrol. As a Christian, i can't stand it when people say they want to close off the border because hospital aid is costing too much. This is because of federal law, and unfair issuance of our tax dollars. There are real reasons to want stricter border laws, like Mexican friends of mine, who hate the illegals from Mexico, that come here to act out, steal, murder - and then get nothing more than sent back to visit their families until they want to do it again.  also, in no way do i want a North American Union, but there's no reason we need to exploit our sister country and offer no credibility to their government when traveling to Iraq to 'liberate' them. Of course this goes back to a fundamental issue about whether we should have any influence in other lands.

Just the smallest things, like opposing Walmart. I do not shop there and I used to tell people it was because it was a monopoly, but once becoming more informed, I now say that I do not wish to support the Communist (almost)slave-labor of China, the pitiful working conditions, the lack of industry standards. Now that's a real ass reason.


I'm sure there's a lot to take from this that might not fit your bill, i also saw a lot of people were jumpy with the issue of 'racist'. Let me know what yall think. If we can't talk about it, it suppresses us. That's for real.

~Mike

[iamc]

i dont care what color  we are we are all one of the same   

  i concur: as we should be: "Color Blind"

[Pheonix Renewed]

  i concur: as we should be: "Color Blind"

No we shouldn't. God gave us various races and colors and cultures to enjoy, embrace, and appreciate. Let each enjoy and celebrate their race and the culture that attends it. Let us each enjoy our own and each other's differences, while respecting our equality.

The mistake in the feminist movement is the idea that equality must equal sameness. Celebrate the differences, for the differences compliment each other. The striking constrast of deep brown skin beside pale skin is striking and brilliant because of the difference. A tall man beside a short woman is striking because of the difference.

These differences are to be celebrated and appreciated and enjoyed, and when and if we so choose, even embraced- thus creating yet more wonderful and delightful variety and beauty.

Pretending the differences does not give anyone the right to feel great confidence, comfort, and self-acceptance for themselves exactly as they are. Appreciating the differences gives each of us a right to say, "I am beautiful, just as I am." If we can say that dark skin is beautiful, and so is white skin, and so is golden or olive skin, then we are each free to recognize our own beauty.

When we say, "let's pretend the colors don't exist," then we make it a point of shame to be different from one another.

But we are all humans, beautiful in the eyes of God simply by this fact alone. We are each precious, magnificent, and beautiful. Whether we wear brown skin or white, or any range in between. Whether our eyes are black, brown, blue, green, hazel, or any other color that may come to be. Whether we are male, female, or hermaphrodite.

It is being human that makes us equal, not the color of our skin or our eyes or our height or our weight or our gender. Respect the equality, but appreciate the differences, for in doing so, we give each other permission to love ourselves and each other.

[iamc]

  i concur: as we should be: "Color Blind"

I am saying 'color blind' in the sense of; "no racism" not 'diversity' [sorry that i was not more clear]
and i concur with everything you have written my friend pheonix

[Pheonix Renewed]

I am saying 'color blind' in the sense of; "no racism" not 'diversity' [sorry that i was not more clear]
and i concur with everything you have written my friend pheonix

I see. I was hoping you were saying that, but I've recently run into people who really do feel like we should ignore race differences (and this is a white woman with an adopted Chinese daughter, who really needs mom to SEE her race and help her love herself, since she looks entirely different from everyone in her family and in the area, too!!).

The quotes did give me the idea, but I really wanted to make sure. I'm seeing a lot of the "let's pretend there aren't any differences" lately in both race and gender issues.  There are differences, and therein lies beauty and the potential for harmony!

[5010]

well i'm sure if people stopped seeing and talking in black and white, opened they're third eye and realized we are all the same color. some a litter lighter and some a little darker than others. they wouldn't say that. racism doesn't naturally exist it was created to keep the masses distracted.

[Sub-X]

That until there no longer
First class and second class citizens of any nation
Until the colour of a mans skin
Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes -Bob Marley War

[iamc]

A BLIND MAN, WHO PRAYED HE COULD SEE...

A man who was born blind
Asked God: 'to be so kind'
And give him sight for a day...

God granted him sight
And his world turned bright
But remember: Watch what you pray...

Now he could see people of all different colors...
but one color would not get near to the other...

The blind man then said: 'i would rather be blind or dead...
if this is the way we treat our sisters and brothers...
I said God make me blind and i can leave this world of color behind..!'