G7 False Flag Mumbai massacre...Official story is TOTAL BS! Hindu Undercover!

[Brocke]

One terrorist survives. It's the one that's been on all the TVs and newspapers.

What are your thoughts the fate of this "terrorist". Will he survive to stand trial?

[jeremiah]

Notice that the baby faced survivor is wearing a HINDU Kalava on his right wrist

[Revolt426]

The guy already spilled the beans, he told Indian investigators he was told he would come back alive and he was  told to kill as many as possible. And he doesn't want to die etc...... I can tell you one thing, if he has a trial the public will never know what he says The Indian Gov is not saying who his handlers are

[Dig]

Risk cover to help hotel duo limit loss
- Oberois, Tatas busy assessing damage
OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1081130/jsp/business/story_10185603.jsp


Mumbai, Nov. 29: The Oberois and the Tatas are fully insured against the terrorist attack that ripped two of the largest hotels in Mumbai.

The Oberois-owned EIH Ltd had taken out an insurance policy with New India Assurance and United India Insurance Company Ltd — the two-state-owned insurers — for the Oberoi-Trident hotel.

Tata-owned Indian Hotels Company, which operates the 565-room Taj Mahal Palace and Towers — has a risk cover with Tata-AIG General Insurance Company and a few other insurers. Apart from Tata-AIG, a 30 per cent insurance cover was provided by ICICI Lombard and a 5 per cent by Iffco-Tokio General Insurance.

EIH has also taken a loss of profit insurance that protects it against business losses arising from any untoward events.
P.R.S. Oberoi in Mumbai on Saturday. (PTI)


Addressing his first press conference after the hotel was liberated from a terrorist siege, EIH chairman P.R.S. Oberoi said the terrorism risk cover (which comes along with fire insurance) and the loss of profit insurance would cover the makeover cost for the bombed-out hotel and the loss of profit during the period that it remains closed.

The hotel in the tony Nariman Point business district contributes around 45 per cent of its revenues.

During the year ended March 31, 2008, the company posted a total income of Rs 1,151.12 crore.

The EIH chief said it was difficult to compute the losses the hotel would suffer because of the terrorist attack or set a date for the resumption of the hotel’s operations.

He, however, added that the extent of damage to the Oberoi property was more than that of the Trident.

“We are assessing the damage of the Trident and The Oberoi. From our preliminary assessment, the damage at The Oberoi appears to be much greater than at the Trident. At this point, it is very difficult to tell you when we can reopen each of these hotels. However, our effort is to open both hotels as soon as we can,” he said.

The initial assessment indicated that there was no structural damage to the property.

While the National Security Guard (NSG) had sanitised the Trident property and handed it over to the company management, the process was still on at the Oberoi till late Saturday evening.

EIH vice-chairman S.S. Mukherjee, who accompanied Oberoi, said the horrific events would not significantly affect the company’s bottomline. However, it could not afford to keep such a property idle for a long period of time.

General insurance companies offer risk covers against terrorism through a common pool with the present corpus estimated at about Rs 1,000 crore. The money is later used for settlement of terrorism-related insurance claims.

On Saturday, Tata group chairman Ratan Naval Tata and Indian Hotel Company Ltd’s vice-chairman R.K. Krishna Kumar visited the Taj Mahal Palace & Towers.

A Tata group spokesperson said the management had not yet drawn up a plan of action for revamping the iconic building.

“First, we have to conduct an analysis on the extent of damage to the building,” he added. The Taj has suffered greater damage than the Oberoi-Trident complex

[Revolt426]

That in itself proves the f**king globalists did it, they are going to have US pay for it through the nationalized AIG blackhole that will suck our economy into a hellish nightmare through derivatives already, now we have to insure the Taj Hotel in India.

[Dig]

More proof of an inside job...

Has anyone heard that over 350 people died in Nigeria yesterday?

Of course not!  It was not sponsored by the G7 false flag network (directly anyway)!

'Hundreds Die' In Nigeria Clashes 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Nigeria-Violence-Hundreds-Die-And-Thousands-Flee-Jos-As-Christians-And-Muslims-Clash/Article/200811415166344?lpos=World_News_News_Your_Way_Region_5

Hundreds have been killed in Nigeria after Christians and Muslims clashed over the result of a local election, witnesses say.

The violent clashes, which took place in the central Nigerian city of Jos, have also led thousands to flee their homes, according to reports.

Four districts of the city have been placed under a curfew and police have been ordered to fire on anyone breaking it, following the violence that broke out on Friday.

One eyewitness, Aminu Manu, described the carnage: "I was at the central mosque this afternoon and I counted 378 dead bodies - but just as I was about to leave, three more bodies were brought in."

Another witness, Christian clergyman Yakumu Pam, said: "Hundreds of people have been killed in the last two days since the riots started.

"Remains of burned bodies litter some parts of the town. It is so terrible."

There has been no confirmation of the death toll from any official source.

The unrest is the most serious of its kind in Africa's most populous nation, roughly equally split between Christians and Muslims, since a new president took power last year.

A brief government statement late on Friday said that the Nigerian president, Umaru Yar'Adua, had sent in army troops to contain the situation.

Jos is the administrative capital of the Plateau state. It was the scene of a week of violence between Christians and Muslims in September 2001, which also left hundreds dead.

[Revolt426]

There you see, Albert Pike comes to haunt us again Christians and Muslims murdering each other in Nigeria

[Dig]

More G7 v. BRIC motive...

Mumbai attacks chill India economic prospects: analysts
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/11/30/08/mumbai-attacks-chill-india-economic-prospects-analysts
Agence France-Presse | 11/30/2008 10:14 AM

MUMBAI - The deadly Islamist militant strike on India's financial nerve centre clouds the future of Asia's third-largest economy at a time when it already faces a significant slowdown, analysts say.

Ruthless gunmen stormed luxury hotels, including the iconic Taj Mahal Palace, a landmark restaurant and the main train station, killing at least 195 people in a brazen attack that paralysed Mumbai for 60 hours.

The murderous rampage, which Indians are calling their own 9/11, was clearly intended to "destabilise markets and scare off tourists," said Nikhilesh Bhattacharyya, an economist at Moody's Economy.com.

The attack -- which also saw the gunmen single out Americans, Britons and Israelis -- "signifies an attack by extremists on India’s economic success and its closer and warmer economic and diplomatic ties with the West," said Deepak Lalwani, India director at London's Astaire and Partners.

And the timing of the attack, the most devastating of a string this year, was "abysmal" from an Indian economic viewpoint, he said.

The stock market is down by 55 percent this year, banks are facing a huge fund outflow due to the global financial crisis, the rupee is at record lows and growth has slowed significantly amid a widening global recession.

"There has been a continuing attempt to undermine India's economy over the past four or five years and this (attack) is part of it," said Ajai Sahni, head of the New Delhi-based Institute for Conflict Management.

The images of gunbattles between militants and commandoes "flashed around the world are not going to be helpful," said a Singapore banker on condition of anonymity.

"The effect on investor sentiment and tourism will be pronounced."

Finance Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram conceded the attacks could have a "negative" short-term impact but insisted the economy will "overcome" it.

"Investor sentiment will be affected. But within a few weeks or months it will recover," he said. India remains "an attractive investment destination."

He expects growth of at least seven percent for this year to March after three years of at least nine percent expansion. However, economists forecast growth as low as six percent this year and four percent for next year.

In the immediate aftermath, the attacks will scare away tourists and business travellers, analysts say.

"The singling out of American, British and Israelis as hostages indicates a new and worrying action by terrorists as this indicates an international agenda being fought on Indian soil," Lalwani said.

"The impact on tourism will be horrible. People will be scared, worried," said Vijay Prakash, manager of a posh Mumbai restaurant.

Foreign investors will "likely be worried about the safety of their employees and establishments," said Rajeev Malik, economist at Australia's Macquarie Research.

But in the longer-term, as long as there are no major follow-up attacks, the impact should recede, analysts said.

The "negative effects of the current attacks on tourism, investor confidence, rupee and equities will probably turn out to be temporary," Malik said.

Also "what the Islamist terrorist movement has been able to demonstrate in the past few years there is no place you can that is completely safe," said security expert Robert Ayers at London's Chatham House, an international affairs think-tank.

"If people made inward investments based on the fear of terrorist attacks, there would be no investments... in all sorts of the places," he said.

However, cautioned Sahni of the Institute for Conflict Management, "if we keep seeing attacks of this magnitude, perceptions of India's security are going to shift and it will impact directly on investment decisions."

Global credit ratings agency Standard and Poor's said Friday it had no plans to downgrade India's rating as long as the attack was "an isolated case."

as of 11/30/2008 10:25 AM

[Dig]

Please do not believe that only one terrorist was caught alive!

UK NEWS
TERRORIST: I DON’T WANT TO DIE
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/73571/Terrorist-I-don-t-want-to-die
At least 195 died in the attacks

Sunday November 30,2008
By Barry Keevins

THE only terrorist captured alive after the Mumbai massacre in which 195 people died begged hospital doctors to save his life, it was revealed yesterday.

Baby-faced Azam Amir Kasav, who was shot in the hand during a gun battle, pleaded: "I don't want to die." Kasav, 21, holds the key to unmasking the evil mastermind of the atrocity.

He has already revealed that his terror boss arrived in the city a month ago to pick targets after training the gang "to kill till the last breath".

Kasav, who despises Western culture but likes to dress in Versace clothes, was initially thought to have been shot dead during a gunfight with police on a Mumbai beach.

It was not until he arrived at hospital that he was found to be still breathing and the casualty department, packed with his victims, was evacuated.

Kasav, from Pakistan, was beginning to crack under intense questioning yesterday from Indian security agents.

He was hauled before Mumbai magistrates last night and remanded in custody until December 8. He has been put on suicide watch and is under 24-hour armed guard.

He faces months of interrogation until he names the paymasters who hatched and funded the terror plot, and under Indian law he will then be executed.

Agents from MI6 and the American secret service are assisting with the questioning. "Most of the men who participated in this attack are dead and in hell. He will get a fair trial, but on being found guilty he will hang," a secret service source based in India's capital New Delhi told the Sunday Express.   SEARCH UK NEWS for:

"We believe he shot dead a police inspector and other innocent people. We won't be giving him back to Pakistan." Early reports of a British link to the gang were dismissed by Downing Street, the Foreign Office and Scotland Yard.

But the Pakistan connection will leave the already troubled diplomatic relations between the two nations on a knife edge.

Some of the terrorists posed as Hindus as they set about their killing spree, wearing red dots on their foreheads and red threads around their wrists.

Kasav was one of the first to start shooting, picking off innocent men, women and children at Mumbai railway station, smiling as the body count mounted.

He and another of the gang then stole a Skoda car and drove to a beach popular with Bollywood film stars. His accomplice was shot dead by police. Kasav began revealing details of the plot after seeing the mutilated corpse of another terrorist.

As he was led away from the hospital after four hours of treatment he reportedly told medical staff: "Now I don?t want to live."

Indian police have established that he speaks fluent English and is from Faridkot in Pakistan.

He told his interrogators that the gang left the Pakistani port of Karachi in a trawler. They were confronted by Indian coastguards, killing one and taking a second hostage.

Once close to their target they killed their hostage by cutting his throat and boarded three dinghies, landing under cover of darkness at Colaba jetty.

Kasav claims there were just 10 terrorists, who split into three groups and had orders to begin shooting at exactly 9.45pm.
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10 fricking guys brought a whole city to its knees and took out over 10 high value targets?  Over 200 dead? This message brought to you by the same people that use Osama Bin Laden Cartoons to justify more terror funding (like SITE).

WTF?

WAKE UP!

THEY ARE LYING BEYOND ANYTHING EVEN SURREAL, IT IS TOTAL FANTASY!

[Revolt426]

obviously, as soon as the foreign rep's arrived they let the real trained mercs go and now you have the lone surviving patsy that has no idea what is going on, that sounds familar.

[Dig]

Taj Mahal hotel owner: We had warning
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/29/india.hotel/?iref=mpstoryview
From Taylor Gandossy CNN

Watch the full interview with Ratan Tata on "Fareed Zakaria GPS" at 1 p.m. ET Sunday on CNN.

The Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai, India, temporarily increased security after being warned of a possible terrorist attack, the chairman of the company that owns the hotel said Saturday. But Tata Group Chairman Ratan Tata said those measures, which were eased shortly before this week's terror attacks, could not have prevented gunmen from entering the hotel. "If I look at what we had ... it could not have stopped what took place," Tata said in an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria that will air Sunday. "It's ironic that we did have such a warning, and we did have some measures," Tata said, without elaborating on the warning or when security measures were enacted. "People couldn't park their cars in the portico, where you had to go through a metal detector."

However, Tata said the attackers did not enter through the entrance that has a metal detector. Instead, they came in a back entrance, he said.  "They knew what they were doing, and they did not go through the front. All of our arrangements are in the front," he said. "They planned everything," he said of the attackers. "I believe the first thing they did, they shot a sniffer dog and his handler. They went through the kitchen." The 105-year-old hotel was one of nine sites attacked by gunmen in a 60-hour wave of terror that killed at least 183 people and injured hundreds more before it ended in a standoff at the hotel Saturday morning.   Authorities carried out a room-by-room sweep in the 565-room Victorian building late Saturday to make sure that all guests had been evacuated and no gunmen remained inside.

A. Vaidyanathan, an economist who was a guest in the Taj when the attacks occurred, told The Hindu newspaper on Friday that he had noticed tight security at the hotel when he stayed there last month. "First, when you enter the open parking, where the cars are parked, you had a very heavy metal frame; your baggage was searched," he said. "At the entrance of the foyer, there was another metal detector, and you were personally searched and so on." However, for this latest trip, he said, he could walk right into the hotel without encountering the same measures. Bullet holes and scars of grenade blasts marred the restaurant walls in the Taj Mahal hotel, Tata said.  See images from the battlegrounds »

Tata said the attacks revealed deficiencies in law enforcement, especially in the areas of crisis response and management. "We were getting the cooperation that they could give us, but the infrastructure was woefully poor," he said,  As an example, Tata said it took three hours for firefighters to get water to the Taj after a blaze broke out in the oldest part of the building. "We had people who died being shot through bulletproof vests," he added.

Tata said that not even the army or commandoes who ultimately took over the offensive were prepared for the level of organization and execution that the attackers seemed to have put into their plan. "They seemed to know [the hotel] in the night or in the daytime," he said of the attackers. "They seemed to have planned their moves quite well, and there seem to have been a lot of pre-planning." Tata said the attacks underscored the need for law enforcement to develop infrastructure for crisis management, even if it meant seeking outside expertise for training, equipment and strategic operations. "We've been very complacent, because we've really not had this kind of terrorism inflicted upon us," he said. "We should not stand on ceremony to hold back. We should go to the best place possible to get expertise." Tata was hopeful that the attacks would unite Indians behind a common goal of preventing a similar tragedy.

"Rather than have us succumb to this kind of terror, what it has done is given us a resolve that nobody can do this to us," he said. "We're indignant, but we're not scared. If there's a view that this has pulled us down, I think it will unite the country that much more." Tata said he derived those sentiments from members of his staff, who have pledged to stand behind him and restore the Taj to its former grandeur.

"The general manager lost his whole family in one of the fires in the building," Tata said. "I went up to him today and I told him how sorry I was, and he said, 'Sir, we are going to beat this. We are going to build this Taj back into what it was. We're standing with you. We will not let this event take us down.'"
Tata added, "And that is the feeling that they have, and I have a feeling that that's pretty much echoed throughout the country."

[Dig]

Newsweek again insults the world's intelligence...


ATTACK IN INDIA
Flunking the Intelligence Test
http://www.newsweek.com/id/171366
The only real question about the Mumbai attack was just when it would come.
October 29, 2008

Hey Newsweek, do you still think the SPP is a fantasy?

[Baihuigau]

So mi6 and secret service are the one interrogating this lone surviving terrorist guy wtf, thought britain was just sending scotland yard in and now its mi6 and why is the us secret service even doing interrogations whouldent that be the job of the cia, does the sercret service even have the powers to go to operate in another country like that other than presidential protection?? o.0 way too much confusing information going around.

[voodo0]

plan was to kill 5,000

The only terrorist captured alive after the Mumbai massacre has given police the first full account of the extraordinary events that led to it – revealing he was ordered to ‘kill until the last breath’.

Azam Amir Kasab, 21, from Pakistan, said the attacks were meticulously planned six months ago and were intended to kill 5,000 people.

He revealed that the ten terrorists, who were highly trained in marine assault and crept into the city by boat, had planned to blow up the Taj Mahal Palace hotel after first executing British and American tourists and then taking hostages.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090546/I-told-kill-breath-Captured-terrorists-account-Mumbai-massacre-reveals-plan-kill-5-000.html

[jeremiah]

So if this lone survivor was as they say a Pakistani Muslim, how come he has a Hindu Kavala on his right wrist? Its a dead giveaway that he is an Indian and not a Pakistani as alleged.  See:-

http://luqmaninbmore.blogspot.com/2008/11/pictures-from-mumbai-attack.html

[IridiumKEPfactor]

Notice that the baby faced survivor is wearing a HINDU Kalava on his right wrist

YOU ARE RIGHT SIR!






Kalava (Sanskrit: कलावा) is the sacred Hindu thread. It is worn while performing Hindu rituals like 'Yajna' or Puja. It is tied by a priest on the wrists of all the people attending the prayer ceremony. Kalava is tied on right hand of males and unmarried females, and on left hand of married females. Sometimes it has small yellow parts in between the mostly red string. It sometimes has knots which are tied up while reciting Sanskrit mantras to invoke God and is worn to ward off evil from the person who wears this red thread.
(Courtsey wikipedia)

[spangler]

So if this lone survivor was as they say a Pakistani Muslim, how come he has a Hindu Kavala on his right wrist? Its a dead giveaway that he is an Indian and not a Pakistani as alleged. 

Or is it a false flag?

[Hawkwind]

So if this lone survivor was as they say a Pakistani Muslim, how come he has a Hindu Kavala on his right wrist? Its a dead giveaway that he is an Indian and not a Pakistani as alleged.  See:-

http://luqmaninbmore.blogspot.com/2008/11/pictures-from-mumbai-attack.html

my guess is he was given the whole outfit before the operation as a disguise planned to muddy the waters, you have very westernized clothing with a hindu kavala, whoever clothed him wanted him to look hindu/western, if you look closely at the shoes you can still see the barcodes attached, meaning the clothes where freshly purchased....so we can assume the kavala was freshly bought aswell.

[IridiumKEPfactor]

my guess is he was given the whole outfit before the operation as a disguise planned to muddy the waters, you have very westernized clothing with a hindu kavala, whoever clothed him wanted him to look hindu/western, if you look closely at the shoes you can still see the barcodes attached, meaning the clothes where freshly purchased....so we can assume the kavala was freshly bought aswell.

Very good point but I wonder if the Kalava would be a little to much. If this guy is an Muslim extremist the Kalava to him might be as repulsive to him as a pentagram and the goats head inside of it. I would not want to die with one of those medalions around my neck.

[Hawkwind]

Very good point but I wonder if the Kalava would be a little to much. If this guy is an Muslim extremist the Kalava to him might be as repulsive to him as a pentagram and the goats head inside of it. I would not want to die with one of those medalions around my neck.

it could be a military tactic aswell used to throw off the mainly hindu population in mumbai, while they were gearing up and carrying around suspicious backpacks full of weaponry the hindu garb could have been used as a false sense of security for the victims....for all we know he could be an atheist British agent and just viewed the kavala as another form of "camouflage".

[spangler]

Something else fishy about this is the latest I've been hearing from the media. I'm wondering just how dumbed down they think we are. Or maybe they're confused or desperate to tone the scope of this down to make a cover up easier.

They're making the bizarre claim that only 10 gunmen were involved. In fact BBC just "reported" it may be fewer than 10 men saying "as many" as 10 gunmen were involved.
Now this is false and is false by their own words. You don't need a military or law enforcement background to figure it out. At the same time these media are reporting the 10 men figure they are also saying that the attacks took place in 7-9 locations.

How could "as many" as 10 gunmen launch near simultaneous attacks involving shooting sprees, hijackings, hostages and standoffs  in 7-9 locations?

[jeremiah]

"It wouldn't be Thanksgiving without a false flag terrorist attack in which innocent people are murdered in cold blood." See:-

http://www.daily.pk/world/asia/8386-it-wouldnt-be-thanksgiving-without-a

[LoreOnTerror]

Only 10 eh?

Terror Tale
A group of 12 took the sea route: Qasab
Shiv Kumar
Tribune News Service

Mumbai, November 29
The lone terrorist, who was arrested in the wake of Wednesday’s terror attacks in Mumbai, has given important information to the investigating agencies about the Lashkar-e-Toiba’s plans to launch sea-borne terror attacks on India.

Police sources said the terrorist, said to be around 22-year-old and identified as Ajmal Azam Qasab, had provided investigators with startling information about how the terrorists sneaked into Mumbai from Karachi.

The terrorists hijacked a fishing trawler off the Western Coast and killed the crew on board. One of the fishermen was kept alive to provide the terrorists with enough directions to reach the city’s coast. The hostage was then killed and the terrorists landed on the coast of south Mumbai.

Qasab has told the police that there were 12 terrorists.

The information provided by Qasab reportedly corroborates the information provided by the investigating agencies that the LeT’s marine wing had provided a number of terrorists with commando training and provided them with logistics support.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20081130/main1.htm#1

[spangler]

Only 10 eh?

One of the fishermen was kept alive to provide the terrorists with enough directions to reach the city’s coast. The hostage was then killed and the terrorists landed on the coast of south Mumbai.

How convenient for the framers of the official story. A key player in their fairy tale, a crucial witness, just happens to be killed.

It's the same plays over and over.

The 12 figure is still suspect IMO.

[LoreOnTerror]

Tinker, tailor, fisherman, spy?

Chandan Nandy
KOLKATA, Nov. 29: The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence’s role is coming into prominence with revelations that the agency may have cultivated the Indian “fisherman” whose beheaded body was found on the fishing trawler Kuber seven nautical miles off the coast of Mumbai on 27 November.
Sources privy to the probe told The Statesman that the conspiracy to attack Mumbai could have been “hatched years in advance”. The first indication of this is evidence that the murdered fisherman, identified as Amarsinh Solanki, was in a Pakistani jail three years back. It is very likely that Solanki, who had strayed into Pakistani waters, was captured and then “turned” into working for the ISI, said the source.
Sources disclosed that the terrorists did not capture Kuber but it was used as an integral part of the plan by the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba module. Investigators believe that the ship the terrorists embarked on in Karachi ~ possibly the Vietnam-registered vessel MV Alpha on its way to the ship-breaking yard in Alang ~ met Kuber at least 126 nautical miles off the Mumbai coast. The distance between Karachi and Mumbai can be covered by a vessel like MV Alpha in five days, but not Kuber which has a maximum speed of seven knots. Interrogation of Kuber’s owner has revealed that Amarsinh returned to Porbandar from a fishing trip on 13 November around 8 p.m. He went back to sea the very next day after refuelling the trawler and getting provisions. It is suspected that he may have been directed by ISI handlers to rendezvous with the terrorists and ferry them to just off the Mumbai coast from where they launched the rubber dinghies that brought them ashore. Investigators are consulting the Navy and Coast Guard to determine the coordinates of the GPS device found on the trawler. Solanki’s body was found on board the Kuber with his throat slit when the vessel was seized by the Coast Guard, while the bodies of four others, believed to be crew members, were found on the high seas.


http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=1&theme=&usrsess=1&id=233391

[Dig]

The MSM can only pile the bullshit so high until the 6.5 Billion inhabitants on the Earth realize...


Something stinks about this!

[Dig]

More evidence of an inside job---One command and control of the "official story"

PM to preside over all-party meeting, to discuss Mumbai terror strike fallout
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/pm-to-preside-over-all-party-meeting-to-discuss-mumbai-terror-strike-fallout_100125297.html
November 30th, 2008 - 9:55 am ICT by ANI -


New Delhi, Nov.30 (ANI): A day after reviewing the overall security situation in terror-hit Mumbai and the rest of the country with key civil, defence and intelligence officials, the Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh, will on Sunday preside over an all-party meeting to discuss the situation arising out of the terror attacks that have left 195 dead and 295 injured.
It is expected that the meeting will seriously consider a proposal to set up a federal agency that will have direct jurisdiction to investigate crimes with national and international ramifications.
The proposal has been in the pipeline since 2000 when former Home Minister L K Advani, asked the K Padmanabhaiah Committee on Police Reforms to examine the feasibility of declaring certain crimes as federal offences “to enable a central agency to undertake investigation, without any loss of time.”
The Padmanabhaiah Committee then opposed the creation of such a body, warning that it could affect federal balance.
The proposal was once again taken up in 2003 when the Justice V S Malimath Committee recommended that the time had come for setting up a federal investigating agency with an India charter.
In a bid to soothe federal sensitivities of states, the Malimath Committee said the proposed agency should have concurrent jurisdiction over federal crimes.
Home Minister Advani could not push through the federal agency proposal and his successor Shivraj Patil was confronted with an adverse recommendation from the Administrative Reforms Commission headed by Congress leader Veerappa Moily. The Moily-led commission then recommended that crimes of a federal nature could be investigated by a specialized wing of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI).
On Saturday, Dr. Singh met the chiefs of the three services and intelligence agencies to discuss the unprecedented terror attacks and ways to prevent the recurrence of such incidents in the future. The meeting reviewed the security situation after the National Security Guard (NSG)-led counter-terror operation to flush out terrorists was declared over.
Defence Secretary Vijay Singh, Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta, Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor, Naval Chief Admiral Suresh Mehta, Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major, Coast Guard Director General Admiral R F Contractor and Intelligence Bureau Chief P C Haldar attended the meeting.
Earlier, Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil met top officials of various forces and agencies and it was decided to step up security along the countrys coastline.
The Congress Working Committee also met on Saturday evening and was reportedly briefed by the Prime Minister about the actions taken by his government on internal security. (ANI)

[Cobra]

LOL. This just keeps on getting more ridiculous. The gunmen who was photographed the most just happened to be the lone survivor.

It honestly feels like the false flaggers figured they didn't need to put much effort into this one. Mass media, let alone alt media, is not widespread in India and westerners can prob. care less they figured.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090546/I-told-kill-breath-Captured-terrorists-account-Mumbai-massacre-reveals-plan-kill-5-000.html

'I was told to kill to my last breath': Captured terrorist's account of Mumbai massacre reveals plan was to kill 5,000

By Ian Gallagher
Last updated at 1:02 AM on 30th November 2008



The only terrorist captured alive after the Mumbai massacre has given police the first full account of the extraordinary events that led to it – revealing he was ordered to ‘kill until the last breath’.

Azam Amir Kasab, 21, from Pakistan, said the attacks were meticulously planned six months ago and were intended to kill 5,000 people.

He revealed that the ten terrorists, who were highly trained in marine assault and crept into the city by boat, had planned to blow up the Taj Mahal Palace hotel after first executing British and American tourists and then taking hostages.
Destroyed: The charred interior of the the Taj Mahal hotel after the terrorists were finally stopped

Destroyed: The charred interior of the the Taj Mahal hotel after the terrorists were finally stopped

Mercifully, the group, armed with plastic explosives, underestimated the strength of the
105-year-old building’s solid foundations.

As it is, their deadly attacks have left close to 200 confirmed dead, with the toll expected to rise to nearly 300 once the hotel has been fully searched by security forces.

Yesterday, Kasab chillingly went through details of Wednesday night’s killing spree across the city, which ended when he was cornered by police.

He pretended to be dead, which probably saved his life. It was only when he was being transferred to hospital by ambulance that his accompanying officer noticed he was still breathing.

Once inside Nair Hospital, Kasab, who suffered only minor injuries, told medical staff: ‘I do not want to die. Please put me on saline.’

And as Indian commandos ended the bloody 59-hour siege at the Taj yesterday by killing the last three Islamic gunmen, baby-faced Kasab was dispassionately detailing the background to the mayhem.

He described how its mastermind briefed the group to ‘target whites, preferably Americans and British’.

Some of the militants, including Kasab, posed as students during a visit to Mumbai a month ago, filming the ‘strike locations’ and familiarising themselves with the city’s roads.

[Hawkwind]

looks like you were right about the death toll sane, i knew it would be greater than 250, it was far too sophisticated....now they are saying they are finding "piles of bodies" in hotel rooms.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3536220/Mumbai-siege-300-feared-dead-as-full-horror-of-the-terrorist-attacks-emerges.html

[spangler]

looks like you were right about the death toll sane, i knew it would be greater than 250, it was far too sophisticated....now they are saying they are finding "piles of bodies" in hotel rooms.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3536220/Mumbai-siege-300-feared-dead-as-full-horror-of-the-terrorist-attacks-emerges.html

They're also reporting that the death toll is being revised downward to 174

Too much.

[Tsul777]

Indian home minister quits over attacks

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=76978&sectionid=351020402
 
Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:11:32 GMT

 
 
India's Home (Interior) Minister Shivraj Patil has resigned over the recent attacks in Mumbai that claimed the lives of almost 200 people.

Indian television channels announced that Patil had submitted his resignation to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Sunday, Reuters India reported.

There is no clear information yet on whether the resignation has been accepted.

Patil said he felt obliged to take 'moral responsibility' for the violent attacks in Mumbai, a government source told AFP.

The interior minister resigned after Indian media criticized him for failing to ensure the country's domestic security.

Pride before the fall? 

[Dig]

there is literally so much bullshit in this story it may affect global warming.

[LoreOnTerror]

"Call records of mobile phones and satellite phones belonging to the killed terrorists would lead to Pakistan-based people who had masterminded the attack. The investigating officials have already conceded that it was a meticulously planned the attack and that some of the terrorists might have already obtained considerable information – including the layouts of Trident-Oberoi Hotels and Hotel Taj – before they embarked upon the attack. They have also confirmed that these terrorists were in regular touch with some persons based in Pakistan.

The fact that the marine commandos seized a Mauritius country's identity card, USD 1,100 and credit cards belonging to seven Indian banks from one of the terrorists gives another indication about the comprehensive nature of preparations made by them before they embarked upon their terror act. Intelligence sources say that the Mumbai attack was conceived in Pakistan-based terror camps eight to nine months ago. The LeT operatives involved in the Mumbai attack received substantial local support.

Apart from gathering more and more information and evidence about Pakistan's links with the Mumbai attack, the investigating officials are trying to establish the terrorists' local contacts. "

http://www.dailypioneer.com/137958/Conspiracy-unravels.html

[Revolt426]

uhm 12 terrorists? last night indian news sources reported that there were about 100 people that invaded via inflatable rafts from a ship

[spangler]

Tinker, tailor, fisherman, spy?

Chandan Nandy
KOLKATA, Nov. 29: The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence’s role is coming into prominence with revelations that the agency may have cultivated the Indian “fisherman” whose beheaded body was found on the fishing trawler Kuber seven nautical miles off the coast of Mumbai on 27 November.
Sources privy to the probe told The Statesman that the conspiracy to attack Mumbai could have been “hatched years in advance”. The first indication of this is evidence that the murdered fisherman, identified as Amarsinh Solanki, was in a Pakistani jail three years back. It is very likely that Solanki, who had strayed into Pakistani waters, was captured and then “turned” into working for the ISI, said the source.
Sources disclosed that the terrorists did not capture Kuber but it was used as an integral part of the plan by the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba module. Investigators believe that the ship the terrorists embarked on in Karachi ~ possibly the Vietnam-registered vessel MV Alpha on its way to the ship-breaking yard in Alang ~ met Kuber at least 126 nautical miles off the Mumbai coast. The distance between Karachi and Mumbai can be covered by a vessel like MV Alpha in five days, but not Kuber which has a maximum speed of seven knots. Interrogation of Kuber’s owner has revealed that Amarsinh returned to Porbandar from a fishing trip on 13 November around 8 p.m. He went back to sea the very next day after refuelling the trawler and getting provisions. It is suspected that he may have been directed by ISI handlers to rendezvous with the terrorists and ferry them to just off the Mumbai coast from where they launched the rubber dinghies that brought them ashore. Investigators are consulting the Navy and Coast Guard to determine the coordinates of the GPS device found on the trawler. Solanki’s body was found on board the Kuber with his throat slit when the vessel was seized by the Coast Guard, while the bodies of four others, believed to be crew members, were found on the high seas.


http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=1&theme=&usrsess=1&id=233391

This entire piece is meaningless. The main problem IMO is that this article quotes only anonymous sources.

The second is that it provides nothing concrete to support the anonymous officials' statements. Reliance on the hypothetical - use of words like "could", "may" (authorities) "believe" "suspected" and "likely" is speculation and not the a substitute for real investigation and hard evidence.

Thirdly, this fisherman looks like a placed patsy. What a happy coincidence that they found this man's body on a trawler on the high seas. How do they know he was killed by the attackers? How do they know he even met the attackers??

Fourth, the article is contradictory. It says at the top that Solanski was beheaded but at the bottom says his throat was slit.

The anonymous officials statement that this fisherman was turned by the ISI while in a Pakistani prison is interesting. But wheres the proof or evidence?
Where are the Pakistanis on the fisherman's alleged jail time in one of their prisons? Will they confirm his tenure as an inmate in a Pakistani jail?

[Dig]

Balst from the past...2005

G8 and Terror - Qui bono?
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/07/317484.html
Thierry Blanc | 08.07.2005 15:57 | G8 2005


Terror and who profits? The G8 becoming a farce.
terror in London compared to US-British involment in Iraq. The causes of terrorism and how we can fight them.

G8 & terror
Qui bono?

Forgotten the climate change – with terror striking now what do we have to worry about the future? Bush and Blair – the leaders against terror - can prove their agenda again.

Whoever is behind the terror – and there is no question that yesterday act is terror against the innocents – the beneficiary is the military industrial complex. Like last year's blast in Istanbul - when Bush visited England - pushing all the attention away from the demonstration against him, yesterday's bombs destroyed any attempts for real resolutions concerning global warming and true poverty alleviation.

No head of State can voice true critique against environmental degradation when terror strikes the host. Instead of real debt alleviation and major steps against global warming we hear the typical, empty phrases. Why - should we ask – did this act of terror just stroke now when the G 8 are meeting? So-called “Islamic terror” seems to work perfectly for those who do not want any agreements on carbon dioxide reduction or real poverty alleviation.
Fear is the main ingredient needed to justify the war on terror and to keep the taxpayer willing to pay – a billion dollar a day! When we look at Iraq – behind the frame the mass media lets us see – yesterday's terror in London pales compared to the horrors caused by US and British involvement there.
Speeches on the graves of the victims for a free world, for spreading democracy, for fighting evil shadow successfully the possibilities for real actions the G8 conference was supposed take.

US-Brittish involvement in war was and is not the answer to terror. On the contrary, it is one of the means to perpetuate it: The ongoing human rights violations against the local population in Iraq, the unspeakable humiliation of innocent prisoners, the war crimes – almost unmentioned in the media – from cluster bombs to depleted uranium munitions drive the people to the extremists far more efficient than any Islamistic tub-thumper.

The other cause of terrorism is the very poverty the G8 summit was supposed to address: In Gandhi's words “A non-violent system of government is clearly an impossibility so long as the wide gulf between the rich and the hungry millions persists. ... A violent and bloody revolution is a certainty one day unless there is a voluntary abdication of riches and the power that riches give and sharing them for the common good.” What we need is not a white-wash for the rich nations and transnational companies. What we need is true capacity building in and for the poorest nations, fair trade regulations and debt relieve without cancelling the aid. The masses of the poor in Asia and Africa are not a burden. They are the future and they might be the solution for an over-aging of western society. Instead of policies enriching a few (and greedy) and impoverishing millions we need policies that empower the poor, so that they can come out of poverty by themselves. We need policies for the modest, that ensures the basic needs of a human being. If we succeed to fulfil the poor's basic needs, lift them up so that they can earn a living in dignity, the overall improvement of efficiency will eventually help our own society in a few decades when young people are a scarcity. Proper development aid and fair trade regulations will not only dry out the causes of terrorism but in long term secure our own future. There is enough money around, it's just spent on the wrong sector. There are enough political organisations that can take steps, but they just white-wash the agenda of the greedy. There are enough ways to fight terrorism, it's just done by the wrong people in the wrong way.

[LoreOnTerror]

Indian Intelligence not so intelligent
Aly Ahmed

Srinagar: If Indian Intelligence is to be believed then the infiltrators who plan to indulge in terror activities in India do not need to infiltrate. Instead they now breeze in through the waters on motorized fishing boats. Then after reaching the shores, they get their goods on to the mainland. Then perhaps take a walk, ask the fishermen to mind their own business, stretch themselves and then get down to business. But before you picture this, here is some more for the picture bank. After stretching themselves they wait for the police car to come along, shoot the policemen dead, drive the car around the lanes of Mumbai and then indulge in a shooting spree. On Wednesday night, militants made a mockery of the entire Indian intelligence set up. The act not only completely caught India’s Intelligence Bureau napping ( as usual) but this time around they also publicly humiliated the Research and Analysis Wing and even the Indian Navy , who till last night was basking in the glory of sinking a pirate ship. The impunity with which the group of militants went for a night out in India’s financial capital, firing at will, indulging in a bloodbath, blowing away hotels and killing foreigners reminds one of anarchy that can be seen closest in Iraq, not even Pakistan. But what is more worrying for India is not the fact that intelligence failed on Wednesday night but how it failed and has failed throughout the recent past. Even Mumbai’s Director General of Police A N Roy went on record to say that the attack that was carried out in Mumbai was a well planned attack. Yes, agreed but what was the Mumbai Police doing all the time when this attack was being 'elaborately' planned. A group of about two dozen well armed, well equipped, well trained militants walk into Mumbai and shake the entire Indian Union to its core, while India’s behemoth intelligence network looked on, says a story in itself. Moreover if indeed the planning of the Mumbai attacks took about two months, then it’s not just an attack but a full fledged conspiracy. And what makes it even worse that none of the celebrated intelligence agencies had a clue what is going on in and around the Indian sub continent. From the Indian Muslims and to some extent Kashmiri Muslims angle, Wednesday night could not have been sadder. Not only did the two collectively grieve the one hundred odd dead in Mumbai but among the dead was one man they all had their eyes on. Mumbai ATS Chief Hemant Karkare, the man who held all the information and leads to the Malegaon blasts and the alleged links Hindu right and Army personal had to the blasts. Moreover not only did the initial Mumbai carnage leave about one hundred dead but the militants also managed to wipe out almost the entire top brass of Mumbai police. We all saw Karkare wearing a helmet and a bullet proof vest on television, yet one fails to understand how he could have been shot through the chest thrice (as reported). The bullet proof vests senior police officials normally wear are state of the art and normally resist bullets fired at some distance. If indeed Karkare was shot through the bullet proof vest then how did the assassin manage to come so close to the slain officer without being shot. This of course stands for the theory if indeed Karkare was shot in the chest. If he was shot in the neck, then Karkare was a very unlucky man. If not, it leaves a lot of questions unanswered, at least to the Indian Muslim. Even in the emergency cabinet called by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Home Minister Shivraj Patil was reportedly criticized for his policies on National Security. Patil has been at the receiving end (rightly so) for the way his intelligence agencies function. Last time around Patil was seen at the Delhi Police Headquarters 'overlooking' the controversial Batla House Encounter. When was the last time you saw Indian Home Minister personally monitoring an encounter. Though the Prime Minister promise action against all those even remotely involved in Mumbai attacks, one can’t wonder but think who will be the suspects this time around. Will it once again be the bearded from India’s second largest minority or will the investigations dare to look beyond the obvious.

http://www.thekashmirmonitor.com/story.php?recordID=5975

[LoreOnTerror]

Mumbai sea attack alert came Nov 19
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Pranab Dhal Samanta Posted: Nov 30, 2008 at 0244 hrs IST

New Delhi: The most brazen and longest Terror attack on India has left several red faces in the Government with facts emerging that not only was there advance intelligence about this attack but even the time to have possibly thwarted it. But what happened, instead, was a case of competitive mistrust in the entire security establishment leading to a catastrophic misjudgement.

The Sunday Express has learnt that on November 19, just about a week before the attack, one of the intelligence agencies had circulated “top secret” information on the basis of an intercept the previous day that an attack had been planned from sea on Mumbai and would be effected very soon. While November 26 was not mentioned as a precise date, sources said, another date before the day of the attack was specified. It also said the terrorists could probably come by an Indian fishing trawler.

This input was passed on for further analysis to the National Security Council Secretariat and Joint Intelligence Council. Subsequently, this was shared with the Navy and the Coast Guard. Also, it was sent in the form of an advisory to Maharashtra. However, somewhere through the entire process, the seriousness and authenticity of the input were interpreted differently by different agencies. State agencies now claim such alerts had become a regular feature in recent months which, too, is arguably correct in many respects. Some have argued that the input was not specific enough and only mentioned the “possibility” of a trawler being used.


http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mumbai-sea-attack-alert-came-nov-19/392351/

[Tsul777]

Hence, Patil stepping down. No involvement there  

[LoreOnTerror]

Sea Warning Ignored

By Pramod Kumar

New Delhi

Nov. 29: Glaring intelligence lapses have come to the fore with reports indicating that the Maharashtra government was warned well in advance of an impending terror attack on Mumbai with the likelihood of terrorists arriving from the sea.

Central intelligence agencies issued specific advisories to the Maharasthra government that a terrorist outfit was preparing to target Mumbai through the sea route four times since January 2008.

Sources in the IB maintain that despite repeated advisories, the Maharashtra police, especially the Mumbai police, did not carry out any adequate follow-up action. The state government did not take the input seriously as there was no follow-up, the sources added. When the specific input was shared with the state government, it should have acted upon it.

Following the interrogation of the arrested terrorist it has been revealed that they had carried out a reconnaissance of Mumbai a few months ago. It was a well-planned operation, said an official.

"They had come along with at least 10 operatives, posing as students, and lived in a rented accommodation near Colaba. Investigations have revealed that the terrorists were given the impression that they would come back alive after carrying out their mission in Mumbai. They had enough explosives to blow up the hotel," the sources said. The interrogation has also revealed that the terrorists were trained in marine warfare and specialised commando raids. It is learnt that the arrested terrorist also revealed the names of other terrorists to the investigating agencies.

The intelligence agencies had sent a warning note to the Coast Guard to stay on the lookout for an unidentified Pakistani trawler sailing from Karachi which, they feared, may enter Indian waters. While the Coast Guard was looking for a Pakistani or unidentified vessel, the terrorists hijacked the Indian fishing trawler, killed its crew and entered the Mumbai seas.

As far as the involvement of Dawood's D-Company is concerned, the official said, "We are examining all aspects. It's too early to draw a conclusion. How the operation was funded, where the money came from, how the terrorists were provided arms and ammunition, we are examining all aspects."

http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/top-story/sea-warning-ignored.aspx