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« on: November 14, 2008, 07:42:24 PM »

It's become appearent that George soros , the creator and funder of Obama has been lobbying various people such as Barney Frank to Dr-Criminalize and attempt to legalize Marijuana. I am not againt marijuana but why is he attempting to do this?
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 07:47:40 PM »



If I was not a cynic I would say he is doing this to keep kids out of jail.

Ah, but im cynical, and im sure there is a profit to be made, and some serious ID procedures.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 07:51:45 PM »

finally the tax beast comes out of the airplane bathroom.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 08:10:32 PM »




 Probably to make millions on marijuana, like chris jones said.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 08:16:17 PM »

*chuckles*  because he lost money in the stock market crash and is looking to cool his nerves! 
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 06:11:32 AM »

...maybe george is a "closet POT-HEAD!" BONG..BONG..BONG...!
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 06:37:44 AM »

...maybe george is a "closet POT-HEAD!" BONG..BONG..BONG...!

legalizing marijuana and taxing the shit out of it..is fiscally responsible...people are gonna smoke anyways..why not have the govt supply it and profit from it...it's easier for a 10 year old to get pot then beer, because of the govt..
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 10:06:36 AM »

Obviously it would be way better were it not taxed, but this is certainly a better solution than slamming 14 year old's faces into concrete for possession.
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 10:08:14 AM »

Because with the credit crunch, they need the extra capacity in the Prison system.

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 10:22:13 AM »

Because with the credit crunch, they need the extra capacity in the Prison system.

They could also just slap anklets on all the debtors and put them to work laying roadbeds. Not that I want to give them any ideas.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 10:24:09 AM »

They could also just slap anklets on all the debtors and put them to work laying roadbeds. Not that I want to give them any ideas.

I think it reflects

(a) Just how many pot heads are in Jail
(b) Just how many people they forecast on locking up next.

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 10:29:29 AM »

I wonder if these people who are in jail for pot possesion will be evaluated to see if they have been influenced by the prison system and have become sociopaths and will be encourage to work in Obama's civil defense forces. Hitler and Stalin used prisoners.

I do believe in pot decriminalization and it would give Obama some cool points in the black community but I wonder if some of these guys have been changed by prison in a negative way.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 10:31:11 AM »

I wonder if these people who are in jail for pot possesion will be evaluated to see if they have been influenced by the prison system and have become sociopaths and will be encourage to work in Obama's civil defense forces. Hitler and Stalin used prisoners.

I do believe in pot decriminalization and it would give Obama some cool points in the black community but I wonder if some of these guys have been changed by prison in a negative way.

That is a very good point, and I've got to comment that Prison does not teach chrisitian or community values as sublte understatement  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 10:42:09 AM »

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people are gonna smoke anyways..why not have the govt supply it and profit from it

WHY? WHY? WHY?

Why do people always recommend government control and taxing? Alex even said that the other day with that ex-cop.

It's just a plant anyone can grow. Keep the government out of our lives! Damn it!
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 10:44:32 AM »

Not 100% that George Soros is working to legalize marijuana but if he is I think you are all missing a few things.  First and foremost marijuana would be very difficult to tax. If it were legal any pot smoker would just start there own garden or have a houseplant on there window ledge.  Seeds are easy to come by and with the plants legalized clones would be even easier to come by so i doubt many people would end up paying taxes as I doubt many people would end up paying for weed.  They would grow it themselves, after all it is a weed and grows fairly easy.

If he does want to legalise it I feel it would be for the tax revenue and industrial profits that could be made from the hemp industry.  As Ron Paul said we could make a much more efficient fuel out of hemp vs. corn. So why use up our cornfields to make the ethanol? Paper industry, clothing industry, resins. Hemp productions always seems to surge during tough times such as wars, because the cannabis plant is such a wonderful plant.  The female works in a mental way and the male in a physical matter.  
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2009, 10:45:13 AM »

It's become appearent that George soros , the creator and funder of Obama has been lobbying various people such as Barney Frank to Dr-Criminalize and attempt to legalize Marijuana. I am not againt marijuana but why is he attempting to do this?

I don't know...but if Alcohol is LEGAL...why can't Marijuana be LEGAL?

Alcohol is by far a more dangerous drug than Marijuana is.

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2009, 10:53:53 AM »

WHY? WHY? WHY?

Why do people always recommend government control and taxing? Alex even said that the other day with that ex-cop.

It's just a plant anyone can grow. Keep the government out of our lives! Damn it!

I make my own wine.  It cost me a dollar a bottle for 18% alcohol.

Tobacco is not grown at home - so it is easy to tax.

Pot is easy to grow at home as you state.  No one will buy weed.  Seeds will be gold but can be exchanged amongst growers.

Paper to role the weed could be taxed, pipes, bongs, fertilizer.  However, the gov knows the pot tax would bring very little.


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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2009, 10:55:30 AM »

Hemp productions always seems to surge during tough times such as wars, because the cannabis plant is such a wonderful plant.  The female works in a mental way and the male in a physical matter.  

What do you mean? Are you saying that the male plant is what's used for making rope, cloth, etc?
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2009, 11:10:19 AM »

I make my own wine.  It cost me a dollar a bottle for 18% alcohol.

What kind of wine? I make beer at home, mostly german and polish styles. Ive got a big 180,000 btu burner to heat up my wort to a boil really quick. Its a lot of fun. With winemaking, are you heating anything?
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2009, 11:15:20 AM »

What kind of wine? I make beer at home, mostly german and polish styles. Ive got a big 180,000 btu burner to heat up my wort to a boil really quick. Its a lot of fun. With winemaking, are you heating anything?

I love to make wines from consintrate.  I make 6 gallons at a time.  Concord, white raspberry, white g, and a lot of other experiments. Grin

Dry wines are my favorite,


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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2009, 11:44:42 AM »

I make my own wine.  It cost me a dollar a bottle for 18% alcohol.

Tobacco is not grown at home - so it is easy to tax.

Pot is easy to grow at home as you state.  No one will buy weed.  Seeds will be gold but can be exchanged amongst growers.

Paper to role the weed could be taxed, pipes, bongs, fertilizer.  However, the gov knows the pot tax would bring very little.


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I'm sure if pot were legalized/decriminalized, Average Joes caught growing pot would still be arrested, only this time unauthorized pot growing would most likely be considered the same as bootlegging/moonshining.
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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2009, 09:49:07 PM »

WHY? WHY? WHY?

Why do people always recommend government control and taxing? Alex even said that the other day with that ex-cop.

It's just a plant anyone can grow. Keep the government out of our lives! Damn it!

Hear, Hear.

It really annoys me too when people suggest the government has any business, taxing or regulating my 'erbs too.

IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2009, 09:16:13 AM »

Hear, Hear.

It really annoys me too when people suggest the government has any business, taxing or regulating my 'erbs too.

IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.


If you allow me...I can prove this through Scripture...even if you don't believe...hear me out.

Genesis 1:
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.


It's a GIFT from God and the Government has NO right making it ILLEGAL or putting a tax on it...period!!!

If I want to GROW God's gift for me...no ONE has any right to suppress my God given freedoms!!!

Cheech and Chong need to SPEAK UP!  Cheesy  Grin  Cool

Carry on!

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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2009, 01:09:20 PM »

Obviously it would be way better were it not taxed, but this is certainly a better solution than slamming 14 year old's faces into concrete for possession.

"Oh no, the government's legalised potatoes but they are so expensive. All that tax! If only there was a way I could grow my own"

Sorry, I've had a shitty day. Gardening is a fun, stress relieving activity and people should pick a plant they like and grow it.

Speaking of which, I ought to repot a cactus of mine, but it's one of those horribly spikey ones and I don't have any suitable gloves. It's stubby and I need to get purchase on it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2009, 04:28:24 AM »

Probably the first thing I've ever agreed with Soros on.


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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2009, 04:29:33 AM »



Speaking of which, I ought to repot a cactus of mine, but it's one of those horribly spikey ones and I don't have any suitable gloves. It's stubby and I need to get purchase on it.

Repotting cacti can be a BITCH.  I've had spikes go right through the gloves.
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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2009, 04:35:59 AM »

It's become appearent that George soros , the creator and funder of Obama has been lobbying various people such as Barney Frank to Dr-Criminalize and attempt to legalize Marijuana. I am not againt marijuana but why is he attempting to do this?

Maybe the elite are tired of their own kids getting busted for it?

Or maybe it's their condescending way of tossing us a crumb of personal liberty after robbing us blind and destroying our economic futures?
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2009, 04:21:14 AM »

I can think of two reasons.

The first one, the obvious: the fact that drug consumption makes people stupid and alienated.

The second: to serve as a launchpad for the consumption of other hard, highly addictive, drugs, from the traffic of which the NWO elites profit.

Marijuana is not the same thing as alcoholic drinks that you can drink because you like the taste of it. It's something you consume just for the effect it has on your brain. It's the same principle behind the use of other illegal drugs. And if you start with a light one and like it, why not move to stronger ones, and increase the intensity of the pleasure experienced? You decide to make the move, and you get hooked. And there you are, another mindless pawn in the NWO conspiracy without ever knowing it. Stealing people's wealth and transferring it to the NWO elites, creating an excuse for more police presence on the streets (therefore advancing things in the direction of a police state) and ending up as a slave in the privately held prison system.

I know that consuming light drugs doesn't necessarily make people move forward to hard ones. I know several people who never made that move. But I also know people who did. And it does make it much easier. And, again, the people I know that didn't move to the hard ones, nevertheless, are not among the most intelligent and most informed people I've met.

These are the reasons I can think of for such a move of legalizing light drugs. I don't believe they'll ever legalize the hard ones, because that would most likely mean loosing their monopoly, which would lower prices, decreasing their profit and drastically reducing the crime rate.


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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2009, 04:35:53 AM »

Maybe the elite are tired of their own kids getting busted for it?

Or maybe it's their condescending way of tossing us a crumb of personal liberty after robbing us blind and destroying our economic futures?

Senator Cobrun wants to ban tobacco. Get every body hype up over legalizeing marijuana to cover bills to ban tobacco?
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2009, 04:50:49 AM »

Whatever your own crooked reasons are Mr. Soros, I'll toke one up in tribute and disdain to your greedy, globalist ass. Cool
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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2009, 04:53:52 AM »

I can think of two reasons.

The first one, the obvious: the fact that drug consumption makes people stupid and alienated.


Huh?!? Where do you get that stupid, ignorant idea? Some of the most brilliant and creative minds in history have been drug users. Drugs are often considered performance enhancing, in the intellectual, creative and physical arenas. That's why athletes are banned from using them.

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The second: to serve as a launchpad for the consumption of other hard, highly addictive, drugs, from the traffic of which the NWO elites profit.

The myth that cannabis 'leads to harder stuff' is a pathetic argument used by people when confronted with the fact that cannabis does no harm. Some people just can't stand others having pleasure, dancing, having sex, smoking pot, tobacco, drinking wine, etc. Usually anal retentive puritans suffering OCD.

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Marijuana is not the same thing as alcoholic drinks that you can drink because you like the taste of it. It's something you consume just for the effect it has on your brain. It's the same principle behind the use of other illegal drugs. And if you start with a light one and like it, why not move to stronger ones, and increase the intensity of the pleasure experienced?

You obviously have very little experience, and therefore knowledge of drugs to make these statements. The effects of cannabis are different to other drugs. Each drug has a different, not more intense effect. Some people like cannabis, some like cocaine, some like opiates, some like amphetamines. These drugs are not simply more intense effects like going up a ladder of pleasure experiences. Different personalities like different drugs. Wall street stockbrokers like cocaine and are unlikely to smoke pot. Prostitutes are usually hooked on opiates. Truck drivers and nightclub bouncers prefer speed. Different strokes for different folks.
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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2009, 05:53:34 AM »

I make my own wine.  It cost me a dollar a bottle for 18% alcohol.

Tobacco is not grown at home - so it is easy to tax.

Pot is easy to grow at home as you state.  No one will buy weed.  Seeds will be gold but can be exchanged amongst growers.

Paper to role the weed could be taxed, pipes, bongs, fertilizer.  However, the gov knows the pot tax would bring very little.


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Make your own wine? Nice. That's an artform all it's own. Tasty I'm sure.

Tobacco? Bulk of it is commercial, but can be grown at home. Many varieties out there. Very doable and its key that, just like cannibis, people grow at home for personal consumption, and not distribution. This completely eliminates all the commerical trappings of commerce, such as taxes permits, etc. Plants can easily be grown indoors as house plants, but a person should be able to plant an acre if they choose. As said, it is not man-made. Rules for abuse and excess is one thing, but that applies to the action of a person and not the plant.

Smoking devices of all types can be, and are made right at home. All kinds of hand-carved pipes for tobacco have been made for centuries and are highly collectable. There's no justifiable need to go to a store for a smoking device. Even paper can be had outside of traditional "rolling papers". Rice paper works great and is all natural.

People these days seem to be trapped in their search for newer, faster, better so they have become professional consumers, and pre-packaged pot is exactly what they will want. Go to the grocery store and see how many prepared foods there are. People are busy and well, lazy. They seem to reason that for a fee they can save some time and hassle, and the commerical-minded folks will take advantage and get the product to market in no time, taxes and all.

Monsanto, Cargill, and others will have fields as far as the eye can see within a season as soon as they can get a sweet deal from Washington. But that doesn't mean we have to buy their stuff. And the overall number of new cottage industry types would spring up all over the place. Legalize hemp also as part of the deal.

If a person is going to use pot, it's better they grow their own and save themselves the added unnecessary costs. Unfortunately, many have no real useable space to grow, due to inner-city living. I don't think it's a bad thing to have cannibis as an integeral part of one's home herbs/spices garden.

Pot can be bad if abused, as with any thing out there. But it's the abuse that's bad, not the pot. The only "gateway" is the individual's own weakness. These types are addictive personalities. The problem isn't the drug, it's the person abusing it due to a lack of moderation.
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2009, 08:40:55 AM »

finally the tax beast comes out of the airplane bathroom.
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2009, 07:55:34 PM »

i dont do drugs myself but i think this is great news.
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