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« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2008, 01:42:41 PM »

Look like we all know where this is going.

Obama = pure NWO.


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« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2008, 01:44:29 PM »

Why was there even an election?

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« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2008, 01:46:44 PM »

Well we all know what happens when you get close to the 'Clintons'
It would seem Barry will not be prez for long..
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« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2008, 01:55:01 PM »

The British is having their media repeatedly print assassination articles about Obama, looks like they are trying to condition people fast i agree... scary. Although Obama is a disaster, Biden would be a bigger disaster. If he were assassinated it would cause his koolaid drinkers to go absolutely apeshit and the media would blame it on a white supremicist or al queda......

As for Bill Richardson he is another disaster, responsible for raiding social security funds during Clintons tenure to "balance" the budget, which is why social security is techiniquilly bankrupt. In addition to that, Richardson would like to open the Mexican boarder and allow the whole country of Mexico to cross over with no background checks, he's a piece of shit.

It is pretty shocking that Clinton has accepted this position, this would confirm that Obama will run absolutely nothing. He recently stated as his excuse he would like to be like Abe Lincoln in that abe had "enemies" in his cabinet..... It is no secret that Clinton is alot more conservative then Obama and hawkish so i would not be suprised if another conflict was started pretty fast .
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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2008, 01:55:59 PM »

Now only three people stand in her way from obtaining the Holy Grail.

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3    President pro tempore of the Senate    
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« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2008, 01:56:45 PM »

Why was there even an election?

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« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2008, 02:40:46 PM »

Why was there even an election?

We are living in the Soviet Union.

I have been thinking about this lately; what is the point in limiting the president for two terms when a lot of the same people have high posts within the White House from Republican administration to Republican administration and the same for the Democrats.  It seems like all that hapens is the chess board getting shuffled.
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« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2008, 02:50:48 PM »

some high-ups from the bush admin are joining the CNAS thinktank as the existing members leave to join the whitehouse too, according to an article on their website.. no word as to names yet. so the bush cronies go into the shadows and countinue the same policies alongside hillary.. change indeed.
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« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2008, 03:02:59 PM »

some high-ups from the bush admin are joining the CNAS thinktank as the existing members leave to join the whitehouse too, according to an article on their website.. no word as to names yet. so the bush cronies go into the shadows and countinue the same policies alongside hillary.. change indeed.

Oh yeah, I forgot about people that take jobs in think tanks or with cooperations that have connections with the government.
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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2008, 08:07:38 PM »

This Is Change? 20 Hawks, Clintonites and Neocons to Watch for in Obama’s White House
http://www.prisonplanet.com/this-is-change-20-hawks-clintonites-and-neocons-to-watch-for-in-obamas-white-house.html

Jeremy Scahill
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Friday, Nov 21, 2008

U.S. policy is not about one individual, and no matter how much faith people place in President-elect Barack Obama, the policies he enacts will be fruit of a tree with many roots. Among them: his personal politics and views, the disastrous realities his administration will inherit, and, of course, unpredictable future crises. But the best immediate indicator of what an Obama administration might look like can be found in the people he surrounds himself with and who he appoints to his Cabinet. And, frankly, when it comes to foreign policy, it is not looking good.

Obama has a momentous opportunity to do what he repeatedly promised over the course of his campaign: bring actual change. But the more we learn about who Obama is considering for top positions in his administration, the more his inner circle resembles a staff reunion of President Bill Clinton’s White House. Although Obama brought some progressives on board early in his campaign, his foreign policy team is now dominated by the hawkish, old-guard Democrats of the 1990s. This has been particularly true since Hillary Clinton conceded defeat in the Democratic primary, freeing many of her top advisors to join Obama’s team.

“What happened to all this talk about change?” a member of the Clinton foreign policy team recently asked the Washington Post. “This isn’t lightly flavored with Clintons. This is all Clintons, all the time.”

Amid the euphoria over Obama’s election and the end of the Bush era, it is critical to recall what 1990s U.S. foreign policy actually looked like. Bill Clinton’s  boiled down to a one-two punch from the hidden hand of the free market, backed up by the iron fist of U.S. militarism. Clinton took office and almost immediately bombed Iraq (ostensibly in retaliation for an alleged plot by Saddam Hussein to assassinate former President George H.W. Bush). He presided over a ruthless regime of economic sanctions that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and under the guise of the so-called No-Fly Zones in northern and southern Iraq, authorized the longest sustained U.S. bombing campaign since Vietnam.

Under Clinton, Yugoslavia was bombed and dismantled as part of what Noam Chomsky described as the “New Military Humanism.” Sudan and Afghanistan were attacked, Haiti was destabilized and “free trade” deals like the North America Free Trade Agreement and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade radically escalated the spread of corporate-dominated globalization that hurt U.S. workers and devastated developing countries. Clinton accelerated the militarization of the so-called War on Drugs in Central and Latin America and supported privatization of U.S. military operations, giving lucrative contracts to Halliburton and other war contractors. Meanwhile, U.S. weapons sales to countries like Turkey and Indonesia aided genocidal campaigns against the Kurds and the East Timorese.

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The prospect of Obama’s foreign policy being, at least in part, an extension of the Clinton Doctrine is real. Even more disturbing, several of the individuals at the center of Obama’s transition and emerging foreign policy teams were top players in creating and implementing foreign policies that would pave the way for projects eventually carried out under the Bush/Cheney administration. With their assistance, Obama has already charted out several hawkish stances. Among them:

– His plan to escalate the war in Afghanistan;

– An Iraq plan that could turn into a downsized and rebranded occupation that keeps U.S. forces in Iraq for the foreseeable future;

– His labeling of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a “terrorist organization;”

– His pledge to use unilateral force inside of Pakistan to defend U.S. interests;

– His position, presented before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), that Jerusalem “must remain undivided” — a remark that infuriated Palestinian officials and which he later attempted to reframe;

– His plan to continue the War on Drugs, a backdoor U.S. counterinsurgency campaign in Central and Latin America;

– His refusal to “rule out” using Blackwater and other armed private forces in U.S. war zones, despite previously introducing legislation to regulate these companies and bring them under U.S. law.

Obama did not arrive at these positions in a vacuum. They were carefully crafted in consultation with his foreign policy team. While the verdict is still out on a few people, many members of his inner foreign policy circle — including some who have received or are bound to receive Cabinet posts — supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Some promoted the myth that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. A few have worked with the neoconservative Project for the New American Century, whose radical agenda was adopted by the Bush/Cheney administration. And most have proven track records of supporting or implementing militaristic, offensive U.S. foreign policy. “After a masterful campaign, Barack Obama seems headed toward some fateful mistakes as he assembles his administration by heeding the advice of Washington’s Democratic insider community, a collective group that represents little ‘change you can believe in,’” notes veteran journalist Robert Parry, the former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter who broke many of the stories in the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980s.

As news breaks and speculation abounds about cabinet appointments, here are 20 people to watch as Obama builds the team who will shape U.S. foreign policy for at least four years:

Joe Biden

There was no stronger sign that Obama’s foreign policy would follow the hawkish tradition of the Democratic foreign policy establishment than his selection of Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate. Much has been written on Biden’s tenure as head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, but his role in the invasion and occupation of Iraq stands out. Biden is not just one more Democratic lawmaker who now calls his vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq “mistaken;” Biden was actually an important facilitator of the war.

In the summer of 2002, when the United States was “debating” a potential attack on Iraq, Biden presided over hearings whose ostensible purpose was to weigh all existing options. But instead of calling on experts whose testimony could challenge the case for war — Iraq’s alleged WMD possession and its supposed ties to al-Qaida — Biden’s hearings treated the invasion as a foregone conclusion. His refusal to call on two individuals in particular ensured that testimony that could have proven invaluable to an actual debate was never heard: Former Chief United Nations Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter and Hans von Sponeck, a 32-year veteran diplomat and the former head of the U.N.’s Iraq program.

Both men say they made it clear to Biden’s office that they were ready and willing to testify; Ritter knew more about the dismantling of Iraq’s WMD program than perhaps any other U.S. citizen and would have been in prime position to debunk the misinformation and outright lies being peddled by the White House. Meanwhile, von Sponeck had just returned from Iraq, where he had observed Ansar al Islam rebels in the north of Iraq — the so-called al-Qaida connection — and could have testified that, rather than colluding with Saddam’s regime, they were in a battle against it. Moreover, he would have pointed out that they were operating in the U.S.-enforced safe haven of Iraqi Kurdistan. “Evidence of al-Qaida/lraq collaboration does not exist, neither in the training of operatives nor in support to Ansar-al-Islam,” von Sponeck wrote in an Op-Ed published shortly before the July 2002 hearings. “The U.S. Department of Defense and the CIA know perfectly well that today’s Iraq poses no threat to anyone in the region, let alone in the United States. To argue otherwise is dishonest.”

With both men barred from testifying, rather than eliciting an array of informed opinions, Biden’s committee whitewashed Bush’s lies and helped lead the country to war. Biden himself promoted the administration’s false claims that were used to justify the invasion of Iraq, declaring on the Senate floor, “[Saddam Hussein] possesses chemical and biological weapons and is seeking nuclear weapons.”

With the war underway, Biden was then the genius who passionately promoted the ridiculous plan to partition Iraq into three areas based on religion and ethnicity, attempting to Balkanize one of the strongest Arab states in the world.

“He’s a part of the old Democratic establishment,” says retired Army Col. Ann Wright, the State Department diplomat who reopened the U.S. embassy in Kabul in 2002. Biden, she says, has “had a long history with foreign affairs, [but] it’s not the type of foreign affairs that I want.”

Rahm Emanuel

Obama’s appointment of Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel as Chief of Staff is a clear sign that Clinton-era neoliberal hawks will be well-represented at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. A former senior Clinton advisor, Emanuel is a hard-line supporter of Israel’s “targeted assassination” policy and actually volunteered to work with the Israeli Army during the 1991 Gulf War. He is close to the right-wing Democratic Leadership Council and was the only member of the Illinois Democratic delegation in the Congress to vote for the invasion of Iraq. Unlike many of his colleagues, Emanuel still defends his vote. As chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in 2006, Emanuel promoted the campaigns of 22 candidates, only one of who supported a swift withdrawal from Iraq, and denied crucial Party funding to anti-war candidates. “As for Iraq policy, at the right time, we will have a position,” he said in December 2005. As Philip Giraldi recently pointed out on Antiwar.com, Emanuel “advocates increasing the size of the U.S. Army by 100,000 soldiers and creating a domestic spying organization like Britain’s MI5. More recently, he has supported mandatory paramilitary national service for all Americans between the ages of 18 and 25.”

While Obama has at times been critical of Clinton-era free trade agreements, Emanuel was one of the key people in the Clinton White House who brokered the successful passage of NAFTA.

Hillary Rodham Clinton

For all the buzz and speculation about the possibility that Sen. Clinton may be named Secretary of State, most media coverage has focused on her rivalry with Obama during the primary, along with the prospect of her husband having to face the intense personal, financial and political vetting process required to secure a job in the new administration. But the question of how Clinton would lead the operations at Foggy Bottom calls for scrutiny of her positions vis-a-vis Obama’s stated foreign-policy goals.

Clinton was an ardent defender of her husband’s economic and military war against Iraq throughout the 1990s, including the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which ultimately laid the path for President George W. Bush’s invasion. Later, as a U.S. senator, she not only voted to authorize the war, but aided the Bush administration’s propaganda campaign in the lead-up to the invasion. “Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability and his nuclear program,” Clinton said when rising to support the measure in October 2002. “He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members … I want to insure that Saddam Hussein makes no mistake about our national unity and for our support for the president’s efforts to wage America’s war against terrorists and weapons of mass destruction.”

“The man who vowed to deliver us from 28 years of Bushes and Clintons has been stocking up on Clintonites,” New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd recently wrote. “How, one may ask, can he put Hillary — who voted to authorize the Iraq war without even reading the intelligence assessment — in charge of patching up a foreign policy and a world riven by that war?”

Beyond Iraq, Clinton shocked many and sparked official protests by Tehran at the United Nations when asked during the presidential campaign what she would do as president if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons. “I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president, we will attack Iran,” she declared. “In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”

Clinton has not shied away from supporting offensive foreign policy tactics in the past. Recalling her husband’s weighing the decision of whether to attack Yugoslavia, she said in 1999, “I urged him to bomb. … You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?”

Madeleine Albright

While Obama’s house is flush with Clintonian officials like former Secretary of State Warren Christopher, Defense Secretary William Perry, Director of the State Department Office of Policy Planning Greg Craig (who was officially named Obama’s White House Counsel) and Navy Secretary Richard Danzig, perhaps most influential is Madeleine Albright, Bill Clinton’s former Secretary of State and U.N. ambassador. Albright recently served as a proxy for Obama, representing him at the G-20 summit earlier this month. Whether or not she is awarded an official role in the administration, Albright will be a major force in shaping Obama’s foreign policy.

“It will take time to convince skeptics that the promotion of democracy is not a mask for imperialism or a recipe for the kind of chaos we have seen in the Persian Gulf,” Albright recently wrote. “And it will take time to establish the right identity for America in a world that has grown suspicious of all who claim a monopoly on virtue and that has become reluctant to follow the lead of any one country.”

Albright should know. She was one of the key architects in the dismantling of Yugoslavia during the 1990s. In the lead-up to the 1999 “Kosovo war,” she oversaw the U.S. attempt to coerce the Yugoslav government to deny its own sovereignty in return for not being bombed. Albright demanded that the Yugoslav government sign a document that would have been unacceptable to any sovereign nation. Known as the Rambouillet Accord, it included a provision that would have guaranteed U.S. and NATO forces “free and unrestricted passage and unimpeded access throughout” all of Yugoslavia — not just Kosovo — while also seeking to immunize those occupation forces “from any form of arrest, investigation or detention by the authorities in [Yugoslavia].” Moreover, it would have granted the occupiers “the use of airports, roads, rails and ports without payment.” Similar to Bush’s Iraq plan years later, the Rambouillet Accord mandated that the economy of Kosovo “shall function in accordance with free-market principles.”

When Yugoslavia refused to sign the document, Albright and others in the Clinton administration unleashed the 78-day NATO bombing of Serbia, which targeted civilian infrastructure. (Prior to the attack, Albright said the U.S. government felt “the Serbs need a little bombing.”) She and the Clinton administration also supported the rise to power in Kosovo of a terrorist mafia that carried out its own ethnic-cleansing campaign against the province’s minorities.

Perhaps Albright’s most notorious moment came with her enthusiastic support of the economic war against the civilian population of Iraq. When confronted by Lesley Stahl of “60 Minutes” that the sanctions were responsible for the deaths of “a half-million children … more children than died in Hiroshima,” Albright responded, “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price — we think the price is worth it.” (While defending the policy, Albright later called her choice of words “a terrible mistake, hasty, clumsy, and wrong.”)

Richard Holbrooke

Like Albright, Holbrooke will have major sway over U.S. policy, whether or not he gets an official job. A career diplomat since the Vietnam War, Holbrooke’s most recent government post was as President Clinton’s ambassador to the U.N. Among the many violent policies he helped implement and enforce was the U.S.-backed Indonesian genocide in East Timor. Holbrooke was an Assistant Secretary of State in the late 1970s at the height of the slaughter and was the point man on East Timor for the Carter Administration.

According to Brad Simpson, director of the Indonesia and East Timor Documentation Project at the National Security Archive at George Washington University, “It was Holbrooke and Zbigniew Brzezinski [another top Obama advisor], both now leading lights in the Democratic Party, who played point in trying to frustrate the efforts of congressional human-rights activists to try and condition or stop U.S. military assistance to Indonesia, and in fact accelerated the flow of weapons to Indonesia at the height of the genocide.”

Holbrooke, too, was a major player in the dismantling of Yugoslavia and praised the bombing of Serb Television, which killed 16 media workers, as a significant victory. (The man who ordered that bombing, now-retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark, is another Obama foreign policy insider who could end up in his cabinet. While Clark is known for being relatively progressive on social issues, as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, he ordered bombings and attacks that Amnesty International labeled war crimes.)

Like many in Obama’s foreign policy circle, Holbrooke also supported the Iraq war. In early 2003, shortly after then-Secretary of State Colin Powell’s speech to the UN, where he presented the administration’s fraud-laden case for war to the UN (a speech Powell has since called a “blot” on his reputation), Holbrooke said: “It was a masterful job of diplomacy by Colin Powell and his colleagues, and it does not require a second vote to go to war. … Saddam is the most dangerous government leader in the world today, he poses a threat to the region, he could pose a larger threat if he got weapons of mass destruction deployed, and we have a legitimate right to take action.”

Dennis Ross

Middle East envoy for both George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Ross was one of the primary authors of Obama’s aforementioned speech before AIPAC this summer. He cut his teeth working under famed neoconservative Paul Wolfowitz at the Pentagon in the 1970s and worked closely with the Project for the New American Century. Ross has been a staunch supporter of Israel and has fanned the flames for a more hostile stance toward Iran. As the lead U.S. negotiator between Israel and numerous Arab nations under Clinton, Ross’ team acted, in the words of one U.S. official who worked under him, as “Israel’s lawyer.”

“The ‘no surprises’ policy, under which we had to run everything by Israel first, stripped our policy of the independence and flexibility required for serious peacemaking,” wrote U.S. diplomat Aaron David Miller in 2005. “If we couldn’t put proposals on the table without checking with the Israelis first, and refused to push back when they said no, how effective could our mediation be? Far too often, particularly when it came to Israeli-Palestinian diplomacy, our departure point was not what was needed to reach an agreement acceptable to both sides but what would pass with only one — Israel.” After the Clinton White House, Ross worked for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a hawkish pro-Israel think tank, and for FOX News, where he repeatedly pressed for war against Iraq.

Martin Indyk

Founder of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, Indyk spent years working for AIPAC and served as Clinton’s ambassador to Israel and Assistant Secretary of State for Near East Affairs, while also playing a major role in developing U.S. policy toward Iraq and Iran. In addition to his work for the U.S. government, he has worked for the Israeli government and with PNAC.

“Barack Obama has painted himself into a corner by appealing to the most hard-line, pro-Israel elements in this country,” Ali Abunimah, founder of ElectronicInifada.net, recently told Amy Goodman of Democracy Now!, describing Indyk and Dennis Ross as “two of the most pro-Israel officials from the Clinton era, who are totally distrusted by Palestinians and others across the Middle East, because they’re seen as lifelong advocates for Israeli positions.”

Anthony Lake

Clinton’s former National Security Advisor was an early supporter of Obama and one of the few top Clintonites to initially back the president-elect. Lake began his foreign policy work in the U.S. Foreign Service during Vietnam, working with Henry Kissinger on the “September Group,” a secret team tasked with developing a military strategy to deliver a “savage, decisive blow against North Vietnam.”

Decades later, after working for various administrations, Lake “was the main force behind the U.S. invasion of Haiti in the mid-Clinton years,” according to veteran journalist Allan Nairn, whose groundbreaking reporting revealed U.S. support for Haitian death squads in the 1990s. “They brought back Aristide essentially in political chains, pledged to support a World Bank/IMF overhaul of the economy, which resulted in an increase in malnutrition deaths among Haitians, and set the stage for the current ongoing political disaster in Haiti.” Clinton nominated Lake as CIA Director, but he failed to win Senate confirmation.

Lee Hamilton

Hamilton is a former chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and was co-chairman of both the Iraq Study Group and 9/11 Commission. Robert Parry, who has covered Hamilton’s career extensively, recently ran a piece on Consortium News that characterized him this way: “Whenever the Republicans have a touchy national-security scandal to put to rest, their favorite Democratic investigator is Lee Hamilton. … Hamilton’s carefully honed skill for balancing truth against political comity has elevated him to the status of a Washington Wise Man.”

Susan Rice

Former Assistant Secretary of Sate Susan Rice, who served on Bill Clinton’s National Security Council, is a potential candidate for the post of ambassador to the U.N. or as a deputy national security advisor. She, too, promoted the myth that Saddam had WMDs. “It’s clear that Iraq poses a major threat,” she said in 2002. “It’s clear that its weapons of mass destruction need to be dealt with forcefully, and that’s the path we’re on.” (After the invasion, discussing Saddam’s alleged possession of WMDs, she said, “I don’t think many informed people doubted that.”)

Rice has also been a passionate advocate for a U.S. military attack against Sudan over the Darfur crisis. In an op-ed co-authored with Anthony Lake, she wrote, “The United States, preferably with NATO involvement and African political support, would strike Sudanese airfields, aircraft and other military assets. It could blockade Port Sudan, through which Sudan’s oil exports flow. Then U.N. troops would deploy — by force, if necessary, with U.S. and NATO backing.”

John Brennan

A longtime CIA official and former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, Brennan is one of the coordinators of Obama’s intelligence transition team and a top contender for either CIA Director or Director of National Intelligence. He was also recently described by Glenn Greenwald as “an ardent supporter of torture and one of the most emphatic advocates of FISA expansions and telecom immunity.” While claiming to oppose waterboarding, labeling it “inconsistent with American values” and “something that should be prohibited,” Brennan has simultaneously praised the results achieved by “enhanced interrogation” techniques. “There has been a lot of information that has come out from these interrogation procedures that the agency has, in fact, used against the real hard-core terrorists,” Brennan said in a 2007 interview. “It has saved lives. And let’s not forget, these are hardened terrorists who have been responsible for 9/11, who have shown no remorse at all for the death of 3,000 innocents.”

Brennan has described the CIA’s extraordinary rendition program — the government-run kidnap-and-torture program enacted under Clinton — as an absolutely vital tool. “I have been intimately familiar now over the past decade with the cases of rendition that the U.S. Government has been involved in,” he said in a December 2005 interview. “And I can say without a doubt that it has been very successful as far as producing intelligence that has saved lives.”

Brennan is currently the head of Analysis Corporation, a private intelligence company that was recently implicated in the breach of Obama and Sen. John McCain’s passport records. He is also the current chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA), a trade association of private intelligence contractors who have dramatically increased their role in sensitive U.S. national security operations. (Current Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell is former chairman of the INSA.)

Jami Miscik

Miscik, who works alongside Brennan on Obama’s transitional team, was the CIA’s Deputy Director for Intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. She was one of the key officials responsible for sidelining intel that contradicted the official line on WMD, while promoting intel that backed it up.

“When the administration insisted on an intelligence assessment of Saddam Hussein’s relationship to al-Qaida, Miscik blocked the skeptics (who were later vindicated) within the CIA’s Mideast analytical directorate and instructed the less-skeptical counterterrorism analysts to ’stretch to the maximum the evidence you had,’ ” journalist Spencer Ackerman recently wrote in the Washington Independent. “It’s hard to think of a more egregious case of sacrificing sound intelligence analysis in order to accommodate the strategic fantasies of an administration. … The idea that Miscik is helping staff Obama’s top intelligence picks is most certainly not change we can believe in.” What’s more, she went on to a lucrative post as the Global Head of Sovereign Risk for the now-bankrupt Lehman Brothers.

John Kerry and Bill Richardson

Both Sen. Kerry and Gov. Richardson have been identified as possible contenders for Secretary of State. While neither is likely to be as hawkish as Hillary Clinton, both have taken pro-war positions. Kerry promoted the WMD lie and voted to invade Iraq. “Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don’t even try?” Kerry asked on the Senate floor in October 2002. “According to intelligence, Iraq has chemical and biological weapons … Iraq is developing unmanned aerial vehicles capable of delivering chemical and biological warfare agents.”

Richardson, whose Iraq plan during his 2008 presidential campaign was more progressive and far-reaching than Obama’s, served as Bill Clinton’s ambassador to the UN. In this capacity, he supported Clinton’s December 1998 bombing of Baghdad and the U.S.-led sanctions against Iraq. “We think this man is a threat to the international community, and he threatens a lot of the neighbors in his region and future generations there with anthrax and VX,” Richardson told an interviewer in February 1998.

While Clinton’s Secretary of Energy, Richardson publicly named Wen Ho Lee, a scientist at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, as a target in an espionage investigation. Lee was accused of passing nuclear secrets to the Chinese government. Lee was later cleared of those charges and won a settlement against the U.S. government.

Robert Gates

Washington consensus is that Obama will likely keep Robert Gates, George W. Bush’s Defense Secretary, as his own Secretary of Defense. While Gates has occasionally proved to be a stark contrast to former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, he would hardly represent a break from the policies of the Bush administration. Quite the opposite; according to the Washington Post, in the interest of a “smooth transition,” Gates “has ordered hundreds of political appointees at the Pentagon canvassed to see whether they wish to stay on in the new administration, has streamlined policy briefings and has set up suites for President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team just down the hall from his own E-ring office.” The Post reports that Gates could stay on for a brief period and then be replaced by Richard Danzig, who was Clinton’s Secretary of the Navy. Other names currently being tossed around are Democratic Sen. Jack Reed, Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel (a critic of the Iraq occupation) and Republican Sen. Richard Lugar, who served alongside Biden on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Ivo H. Daalder

Daalder was National Security Council Director for European Affairs under President Clinton. Like other Obama advisors, he has worked with the Project for the New American Century and signed a 2005 letter from PNAC to Congressional leaders, calling for an increase in U.S. ground troops in Iraq and beyond.

Sarah Sewall

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Peacekeeping and Humanitarian Assistance during the Clinton administration, Sewall served as a top advisor to Obama during the campaign and is almost certain to be selected for a post in his administration. In 2007, Sewall worked with the U.S. military and Army Gen. David Petraeus, writing the introduction to the University of Chicago edition of the Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual. She was criticized for this collaboration by Tom Hayden, who wrote, “the Petraeus plan draws intellectual legitimacy from Harvard’s Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, whose director, Sarah Sewall, proudly embraces an ‘unprecedented collaboration [as] a human rights center partnered with the armed forces.’”

“Humanitarians often avoid wading into the conduct of war for fear of becoming complicit in its purpose,” she wrote in the introduction. “‘The field manual requires engagement precisely from those who fear that its words lack meaning.”

Michele Flournoy

Flournoy and former Clinton Deputy Defense Secretary John White are co-heading Obama’s defense transition team. Flournoy was a senior Clinton appointee at the Pentagon. She currently runs the Center for a New American Security, a center-right think-tank. There is speculation that Obama could eventually name her as the first woman to serve as defense secretary. As the Wall Street Journal recently reported: “While at CNAS, Flournoy helped to write a report that called for reducing the open-ended American military commitment in Iraq and replacing it with a policy of ‘conditional engagement’ there. Significantly, the paper rejected the idea of withdrawing troops according to the sort of a fixed timeline that Obama espoused during the presidential campaign. Obama has in recent weeks signaled that he was willing to shelve the idea, bringing him more in line with Flournoy’s thinking.” Flournoy has also worked with the neoconservative Project for the New American Century.

Wendy Sherman and Tom Donilon

Currently employed at Madeline Albright’s consulting firm, the Albright Group, Sherman worked under Albright at the State Department, coordinating U.S. policy on North Korea. She is now coordinating the State Department transition team for Obama. Tom Donilon, her co-coordinator, was Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs and Chief of Staff at the State Department under Clinton. Interestingly, Sherman and Donilon both have ties to Fannie Mae that didn’t make it onto their official bios on Obama’s change.gov website. “Donilon was Fannie’s general counsel and executive vice president for law and policy from 1999 until the spring of 2005, a period during which the company was rocked by accounting problems,” reports the Wall Street Journal.

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While many of the figures at the center of Obama’s foreign policy team are well-known, two of its most important members have never held national elected office or a high-profile government position. While they cannot be characterized as Clinton-era hawks, it will be important to watch Denis McDonough and Mark Lippert, co-coordinators of the Obama foreign policy team. From 2000 to 2005, McDonough served as foreign policy advisor to Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle and worked extensively on the use-of-force authorizations for the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, both of which Daschle supported. From 1996 to 1999, McDonough was a professional staff member of the House International Relations Committee during the debate over the bombing of Yugoslavia. More recently, he was at the Center for American Progress working under John Podesta, Clinton’s former chief of staff and the current head of the Obama transition.

Mark Lippert is a close personal friend of Obama’s. He has worked for Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy, as well as the Senate Appropriations Committee and the Democratic Policy Committee. He is a lieutenant in the Navy Reserve and spent a year in Iraq working intelligence for the Navy SEALs. “According to those who’ve worked closely with Lippert,” Robert Dreyfuss recently wrote in The Nation, “he is a conservative, cautious centrist who often pulled Obama to the right on Iraq, Iran and the Middle East and who has been a consistent advocate for increased military spending. ‘Even before Obama announced for the presidency, Lippert wanted Obama to be seen as tough on Iran,’ says a lobbyist who’s worked the Iran issue on Capitol Hill, ‘He’s clearly more hawkish than the senator.’ ”

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Barack Obama campaigned on a pledge to bring change to Washington. “I don’t want to just end the war,” he said early this year. “I want to end the mindset that got us into war.” That is going to be very difficult if Obama employs a foreign policy team that was central to creating that mindset, before and during the presidency of George W. Bush.

“Twenty-three senators and 133 House members who voted against the war — and countless other notable individuals who spoke out against it and the dubious claims leading to war — are apparently not even being considered for these crucial positions,” observes Sam Husseini of the Institute for Public Accuracy. This includes dozens of former military and intelligence officials who spoke out forcefully against the war and continue to oppose militaristic policy, as well as credible national security experts who have articulated their visions for a foreign policy based on justice.

Obama does have a chance to change the mindset that got us into war. More significantly, he has a popular mandate to forcefully challenge the militaristic, hawkish tradition of modern U.S. foreign policy. But that work would begin by bringing on board people who would challenge this tradition, not those who have been complicit in creating it and are bound to continue advancing it.
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« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2008, 08:13:56 PM »

The new Treasury Secretary - Timothy Geithner - how is this for "change"?  He become head of the Federal Reserve Bank of NY in 2003.  His job includes regulation of NY financial institutions.  I'd say he did a bang up job.  Along with Greenspan then Bernanke, he let the housing bubble go insane, laughed while Wall Street ran amok and provided NO regulation for credit default swaps which directly led to the current economic fiasco.  As if that wasn't enough of a resume (what the captains of the Hindenburg and Titanic weren't available?) this guy is a former member of Kissinger & Associates, the lobbying firm that represents such wonderful regimes like the brutal Chinese autocracy (which is stealing US jobs) and many other third world dictatorships and US arms dealers.  He was also at the International Monetary Fund, which specializes in inflicting austerity programs in third world countries that lead to starvation and mass poverty.  No shock that he is a former Bush I and Clintonite who turned a blind eye to international drugs/arms money laundering and ex-CFR.  From wiki:


After completing his studies, Geithner worked for Kissinger and Associates in Washington, D.C., for three years and then joined the International Affairs division of the U.S. Treasury Department in 1988.

In 1999 he was promoted to Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs and served under Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers.

In 2002 he left the Treasury to join the Council on Foreign Relations as a Senior Fellow in the International Economics department. He then worked for the International Monetary Fund as the director of the Policy Development and Review Department until moving to the Federal Reserve in October 2003.[5] In 2006 he became a member of the influential Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty.

On November 21, 2008, it was reported that President-elect Barack Obama had decided to nominate Geithner for the position of Treasury Secretary.[6][7][8]

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« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2008, 08:23:40 PM »

I never heard of the Group of Thirty - from wiki:

The Group of Thirty was founded in 1978 by Geoffrey Bell at the initiative of the Rockefeller Foundation,[1] which also provided initial funding for the body.


AK - So along with being a Kissinger stooge I guess we can say he is a Rockefeller stooge as well, but I repeat myself, don't I?
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« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2008, 08:36:10 PM »

Also, Kissinger & Associates had a limited relationship with BCCI, which ended for PR reasons when the BBCI bank was indicted in Florida on drug money laundering charges.  BCCI, aside from handling accounts for the cocaine cartels and Asian heroin warlords, was also the bank of choice for the CIA, the Mossad, and fake Western financed terrorists Abu Nidal and Osama Bin Laden.

From Senate report by Sen. John Kerry:

The solicitation by BCCI of a relationship with Kissinger Associates was largely based on personal contacts. It began with overtures by Ambassador da Costa, a man Kissinger knew was simultaneously a consultant to Kissinger Associates and to BCCI. The solicitation then developed through the burgeoning personal relationship between BCCI officer Helmy and Kissinger Associates partner Stoga.

Although Henry Kissinger was never himself especially interested in this potential client, BCCI become aggressively interested in Kissinger Associates because of its political connections, at a time when BCCI was struggling for survival.

Following the Tampa indictments, Kissinger himself recognized the potential risk to the reputation of his firm should it perform services for BCCI, and by December or January instructed Stoga to advise BCCI that no relationship was possible. Unable to respond to Helmy's overtures directly, Stoga, with Kissinger's participation, eventually agreed to pass BCCI on to William Rogers at Arnold & Porter as a means of helping Helmy and BCCI, while protecting Kissinger Associates.

The result was that through the Kissinger Associates connection, BCCI retained lawyers who had previously represented the Justice Department, State Department, and Federal Reserve, agencies of some relevance to BCCI's predicament. That relationship failed to develop not because of any lack of willingness by Arnold & Porter or Helmy at BCCI, but as the direct result of Clifford and Altman's need to maintain control over BCCI's affairs in the United States.

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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2008, 08:38:54 PM »

He was on the official list released by bilderberg this year.
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« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2008, 08:41:13 PM »

well that seals the deal, Obama will not repeal any powers from the Treasury Secretary and he will run the countries economic system , until it completely collapses then replace it with whatever he pleases.
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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2008, 08:42:34 PM »

Again I ask...

Why were there even elections?
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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2008, 08:48:36 PM »

Again I ask...

Why were there even elections?

To create the illusion for the sheeple that they have free choice.
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http://www.infowars.com/?p=2615

Bilderberg Seeks Bank Centralization Agenda

Fresh off of the 2008 Bilderberg Meeting, it looks as if New York Federal Reserve president Timothy Geithner is set to push a new agenda in the world of central banking that was likely decided upon at Bilderberg. Geithner yesterday, wrote an article in the Financial Times calling for a global regulatory banking framework. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/807c8a64-355a-11dd-998d-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1
 In addition, Geithner called for the Federal Reserve to have an instrumental role in this new framework. Geithner cites all of the problems that were actually created by the central bankers in the first place as the rationale for having greater centralized power. It is interesting Geithner decides to write this piece right after the Bilderberg Meeting where some of the most powerful figures in the world of central banking attended. Not only did Geithner attend, but the attendee list included Ben Bernanke the Federal Reserve Chairman, Henry Paulson the U.S. Treasury Secretary, Jean-Claude Trichet the president of the European Central Bank, Robert Zoellick the president of the World Bank and other high profile bankers. With the who’s who of central banking attending the Bilderberg Meeting, it is highly unlikely that what Geithner is proposing in his Financial Times article was not discussed at the Bilderberg Meeting. It is no secret that the true objective of the Bilderberg Meeting is to steer the world into accepting a global government. By establishing a new global regulatory banking framework, this will inch the planet ever closer to a one world currency operating in a cashless society where microchips are used to facilitate transactions. Make no mistake about it, this system will not be good, because it will be controlled by a bunch of criminal psychopaths like the one’s who attended the 2008 Bilderberg Meeting.

In his Financial Times article, Geithner wrote the following:

The institutions that play a central role in money and funding markets – including the main globally active banks and investment banks – need to operate under a unified framework that provides a stronger form of consolidated supervision, with appropriate requirements for capital and liquidity. To complement this, we need to put in place a stronger framework of oversight authority over the critical parts of the payments system – not just the established payments, clearing and settlements systems, but the infrastructure that underpins the decentralised over-the-counter markets.

Because of its primary responsibility for the stability of the overall financial system, the Federal Reserve should play a central role in such a framework, working closely with supervisors in the US and in other countries. At present the Fed has broad responsibility for financial stability not matched by direct authority and the consequences of the actions we have taken in this crisis make it more important that we close that gap.

Finally, we need a stronger capacity to respond to crises. The Fed has put in place a number of innovative new facilities that have helped ease liquidity strains. We plan to leave these in place until conditions in money and credit markets have improved substantially.

What Geithner is proposing is entirely insane but this is the same tactic that the financial elites used to establish the Federal Reserve back in 1913. They created a crisis and said that the crisis happened because they didn’t have enough power to prevent it. The Panic of 1907 which was used to justify the passage of the Federal Reserve Act was actually caused by JP Morgan and assorted elite financial interests. They did this so they could use the crisis as an excuse to centralize their control and power over the banking system. Through the Federal Reserve, banks were finally consolidated under its umbrella through the Great Depression which was deliberately caused by the tight monetary policies implemented the central bank. Throughout the 1920s money was made plentiful, but following the stock market crash of 1929, the Federal Reserve tightened the money supply which put hundreds of community banks out of business and allowed the central bankers to consolidate control over the nation’s banking system.

Geithner is using the excuse of the current financial crisis that was caused by the Federal Reserve and the world’s assorted central banks in order to again consolidate more power for the banking cartel. It is simply history repeating itself, only this time it is on a much larger scale.

Below is another blurb taken from Geithner’s Financial Times piece:

Since last summer, we have lived through a severe and complex financial crisis. Why was the financial system so fragile? What can be done to make the system more resilient in the future?

The world experienced a financial boom. The boom fed demand for risk. Products were created to meet that demand, including risky, complicated mortgages. Many assets were financed with significant leverage and liquidity risk and many of the world’s largest financial institutions got themselves too exposed to the risk of a global downturn. The amount of long-term illiquid assets financed with short-term liabilities made the system vulnerable to a classic type of run. As concern about risk increased, investors pulled back, triggering a self-reinforcing cycle of forced liquidation of assets, higher margin requirements, increased volatility.

What Geithner doesn’t say in his article is that the current global financial crisis was caused by the Federal Reserve and the world’s various central banks. Alan Greenspan intentionally set interest rates at incredibly low levels after the 9/11 attacks. This encouraged lenders to lend out money using all sorts of creative financing packages. It also encouraged borrowers to borrow money from the lenders because of the cheaper money. These policies lead to the continued devaluation of the U.S. Dollar and the U.S. housing crisis which have been the main drivers behind most of the economic problems we are currently seeing.
   
Geithner wants us to believe that giving the Federal Reserve and the rest of this private banking system more power is what’s needed to resolve all of the economic problems that were caused by the central bankers themselves. How stupid does Geithner and the rest of the global elite think we are? We have a historical track record of central bankers creating economic problems and bringing in phony solutions to expand their control. We need decentralization and free markets to resolve the economic problems that have been created by these people, not more centralized power.

If all of this wasn’t bad enough, Jim Tucker from the American Free Press speaking on the Alex Jones show today stated that one of his Bilderberg sources revealed to him that the global elite are planning to push forward their cashless society grid agenda with the use of implantable microchips. The implantable microchips would be sold as a way for people to easily move through the militarized control grid that they’ve setup via the bogus terror war. Tucker also mentioned that we would see the media hyping the phony terror war and specifically the phony “white Al-Qaeda terror threat” as a way for them to continue the justification of the enslavement grid. Assuming Tucker’s Bilderberg source is providing accurate information, this agenda that Geithner is pushing in his Financial Times article is right in line with their well documented plans to get rid of cash. The central bankers would need a global regulatory framework for the banking system so they can move closer to a global currency operating in a cashless society.

This is some incredibly scary stuff. Of course there was not one word of the 2008 Bilderberg Meeting in any major U.S. media outlets. The corporate controlled media maintained a blackout on any coverage of this incredibly important yearly meeting of the global elite. It is pathetic when citizen journalists like the ones at InfoWars, PrisonPlanet and RogueGovernment provide the best coverage of what is one of the most important geopolitical meetings of the year. Either way, the commentary from Geithner as well as the information from Tucker’s Bilderberg source seems to indicate that the global elite are getting ready to further centralize the banking system in order to establish their one world cashless society grid. These criminals must be exposed and their system of global corruption and tyranny must be defeated. Let’s tell these bastards that they can take their cashless society grid and their implantable microchips where the sun don’t shine.
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« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2008, 04:07:27 AM »

Another nail in the coffin is their choice for Treasury Secretary...

Timothy Geithner - President /CEO NY Federal Reserve
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/21/transition.wrap/index.html

Of all the qualified financial experts out there, they pick the head of the NY Fed? The only thing left is for them to come right out and say plainly the fix is in!
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« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2008, 07:12:06 AM »

>>>>Obama does have a chance to change the mindset that got us into war. More significantly, he has a popular mandate to forcefully challenge the militaristic, hawkish tradition of modern U.S. foreign policy. But that work would begin by bringing on board people who would challenge this tradition, not those who have been complicit in creating it and are bound to continue advancing it.<<<<<

I  wont hold my breath waiting for Obama to change the crap game we are in
,  Scahill's opinion is based on distorted facts.
Every friggin polly-tician promises change.....look at old file  footage of campaigns...
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« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2008, 07:19:43 AM »

8 more years!!!...that should have been "his" campaign slogan..imagine the tree hugging far leftys, cringing at their messiahs every move..gates is change?..lol the guy sold tow missles, and fighter jets to Iran, and helped set up jimmy carters crisis..his alliance is to the agency..CIA for life..I bet he keeps haydn too ..
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« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2008, 07:25:58 AM »

We saw this coming, and he cinched it calling on Powel to join his crew.

Stamp it NWO. the plan progrsses. Different puppet, sugar coated poison.
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« Reply #62 on: November 22, 2008, 09:45:25 AM »

My 2 cents, the NWO is having a gathering in their White House, new team, same faces,same goals, with the exception of Oba.

By the way he is an exceptional actor. Beat the hell out of Reagan, then again its a staged senerio.

Why they don't get Acadmey Awards is beyond me. Ah, but they would have to admit they are acting, be nice to see their scripts.

It would be even nicer to see who writes them.

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« Reply #63 on: November 22, 2008, 09:57:43 AM »

With Hillary as Sec of State you will most likely see a push to make Bill Sec General of the U.N.

 It will take much to long for the T.V. hypnotised masses to awaken, and should they finally do so it will be with much sadness and regret, still we must not stop trying.
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« Reply #64 on: November 22, 2008, 11:24:24 AM »

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  Bush 43 screwed things up so badly that only the kool aid drinkers voted for McCain.  I agree, it is 8 more years of BS with all these war mongers.  The puppet masters want wars.
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« Reply #66 on: November 24, 2008, 04:15:08 AM »

My 2 cents, the NWO is having a gathering in their White House, new team, same faces,same goals, with the exception of Oba.

By the way he is an exceptional actor. Beat the hell out of Reagan, then again its a staged senerio.

Why they don't get Acadmey Awards is beyond me. Ah, but they would have to admit they are acting, be nice to see their scripts.

It would be even nicer to see who writes them.

It's the writer from 'The West Wing', Eli Attie, who writes most of Obama's speeches as far as I know.. or has at least written them in the past.
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« Reply #67 on: November 28, 2008, 07:49:54 PM »

This move didn't surprise me at all. Obama also said he was interested in Colin Powell being in his cabinet. I wonder how he would fit in there.
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« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2008, 10:27:59 AM »

The Obama Coup is the next 911.

Unfortunately not many people see the importance of Obama's lack of the native born status and the fight to get this into the courts. The Republicans are a wounded party from all the corruptions and indictments. The Dems have the power now. But--the Dems could be seriously wounded if the Obama birth issue can be exposed to the majority of the the American population.

With both the Dems and Repubs sullied, this would mean a third party, Ron Paul movement,  The Green Party, whatever, would stand a chance of getting a larger meaningful position in American politics.

This could be the opportunity for REAL CHANGE, not Obama's NWO Change.


I re-post the following information as a resource for anyone wishing to help get the word out:

MP3: Kenyan Ambassador Admits Obama's Birthplace was in Kenya
Interview from WRIF FM in Detroit, Michigan's Mike in the Morning

Direct Link to MP3 audio file:
http://www.gdrg.net/dm/kenya.mp3

Just after 12:15 (mins.) Kenyan Ambassador "His Excellency Peter N.R.O Ogego" admits Obama's Birthplace was in Kenya.

Obama: Hon. James David Manning Says "Produce the Dog Gone Birth Certificate"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/11/anyone-have-copy-of-this-yet.html

Hon. James David Manning tells people to support Alan Keyes and others who are demanding to see if Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to be President. Message was preached on Saturday, 15 November 2008.

This full-page ad appeared in the Washington Times National Weekly last week, Monday November 17th edition. It hit subscribers' mailboxes the next day.
Download PDF: 
http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/065_Obama%20Crimes%20Ad%20-%20Wash%20Times%2020081117.pdf

Lawsuits Proliferate Demanding Proof of Obama's Natural-Born Citizenship before Electoral Vote Count
Keyes warns against "an unprecedented and looming constitutional crisis"
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111903.html

Noam Chomsky talks about Obama (very interesting--approx 30 mins into the broadcast)
http://media.libsyn.com/media/democracynow/dn2008-1124-1.mp3
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/24/noam_chomsky_what_next_the_elections
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« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2008, 06:45:40 PM »

Obama no manifestation of change
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:27:28 GMT
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id=76864&sectionid=3510203

Alexander Cockburn the founder of Counterpunch website says Obama's new cabinet is made up of politicians who created the current economic mess.

In an exclusive interview with Press TV correspondent, Cockburn said that president-elect Obama has named Larry Summers as head of the White House National Economic Council .

According to Cockburn, Obama's economic team and economists like Summers are the same people responsible for the financial crises emanating from the US and gripping the globe.

Cockburn called Obama's economic team a neo-Yeltsininte regime and said that fiscal experts of Summers ilk were responsible for the US mortgage crises and the privatization of Russia--both of which are glaring failed economic models.

The renowned Counterpuncher called Summers an arrogant individual who as chief economic advisor at the World Bank in Dec. 1991, issued a scandolous memo calling for dumping toxic waste in underdeveloped countries and particularly in Africa where life expectancy usually did not exceed 30 years of age, according to the text.

Cockburn said that Obama does not represent a concrete manifestation of change as was promised in his campaign and his cabinet appointments from the Clinton administration is simply a retreading of old policies.

In the sprit of Thanksgiving, Cockburn illustrated a historical account of the event and said the Puritans who arrived in the New World on the Mayflower were responsible for spreading plague to the Native American tribe who saved them.

The full text of the interview with Alexander Cockburn will be published in the interview section soon.

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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2008, 11:53:03 AM »

  Ugly

Aint seen nothing yet:




Just goes to show that you don't get just Hillary, but Bill as well.
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All condensed articles taken from http://wearechange.org

What Do We Know About Susan Rice
Obama's Pick for Ambassador to the UN

She deserves a hefty portion of blame for the fact that Osama bin Laden wasn't neutralized during the 1990s.

"The FBI, in 1996 and 1997, had their efforts to look at terrorism data and deal with the bin Laden issue overruled every single time by the State Department, by Susan Rice and her cronies, who were hell-bent on destroying the Sudan," one-time Clinton diplomatic troubleshooter Mansoor Ijaz told radio host Sean Hannity in 2002.

Richard Miniter, author of the book "Losing bin Laden," concurred, saying Rice played a key role in scuttling the deal that could have prevented the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington.

In November 2003, Miniter told World Magazine that while Sudan was anxious to turn bin Laden over to the U.S., Rice - then a member of Clinton's National Security Council - questioned Khartoum's credibility.

Awarded a Rhodes Scholarship, she attended New College, Oxford, where she earned a M.Phil. in 1988 and D.Phil. in 1990.

Father was a Federal Reserve Bank Governor

The Rwanda Genocide happened on her watch
At an interagency teleconference in late April 1994, Rice stunned a few of the officials present when she asked: "If we use the word 'genocide' and are seen as doing nothing, what will be the effect on the November [congressional] election?" Rice later conceded "If I said it, it was completely inappropriate, as well as irrelevant."[
Eric Holder Brokered the Most Unjustifiable Pardon in US History
A Pardon to Remember

By GEORGE LARDNER Jr.
Published: November 24, 2008
Washington
WHEN President Bill Clinton pardoned a billionaire fugitive from justice on his last day in office, even usually loyal Democrats were dismayed. Representative Henry Waxman of California called it “bad precedent” and “an end run around the judicial process.” He said it appeared to set a double standard for the wealthy and powerful.
The billionaire was Marc Rich, a commodities trader, and his pardon is a subject of discussion again because Eric Holder, Mr. Clinton’s deputy attorney general at the time and a key figure in the clemency process, is reported to be Barack Obama’s choice for attorney general. In the years since the Rich pardon, Mr. Holder has said he “never devoted a great deal of time to this matter.” He also told an interviewer that, in hindsight, he wished that the Justice Department had been “more fully informed” about the case. As someone who helped cover the story for The Washington Post, I think the issue is far more complicated and deserves more scrutiny if Mr. Holder is to become our top law-enforcement official. Continued Here
What Do We Know About James Logan Jones Jr.
Obama's Pick for National Security Advisor





Graduated from Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in 1966( Jesuit priest Edmund A. Walsh founded the School of Foreign Service in 1919) Notable graduates include former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former U.S. Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet and former President Bill Clinton. With current faculty members like former Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith.

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* William H. Frist -- Trustee, CSIS
* Henry A. Kissinger** -- Chairman & CEO, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
* E. Stanley O’Neal -- Chairman and CEO, Merrill Lynch & Company, Inc.
* David M. Rubenstein -- Cofounder and Managing Director, The Carlyle Group
* James R. Schlesinger** -- Senior Adviser, Lehman Brothers, Inc.
* Brent Scowcroft** -- President, Forum for International Policy
* Rex Tillerson -- Chairman & CEO, Exxon Mobil Corporation
* Frederick B. Whittemore -- Advisory Director, Morgan Stanley

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By SHARON THEIMER, The Associated Press
1:53 p.m. November 24, 2008
WASHINGTON — Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, President-elect Barack Obama's top pick for Homeland Security secretary, heads a fundraising committee that collected thousands of dollars from special interests and gave money to Democratic House campaigns nationwide for the fall elections.
Napolitano is honorary chairwoman of the Competitive Edge PAC, which took in at least $390,000 in the 2007-08 election cycle. Its fundraising includes about $315,000 from individuals and $65,500 from political action committees...................Also giving were PACs for federal contractors Aramark, a Philadelphia-based food services, facilities management and uniform company; the Virginia-based MAXIMUS government operations and consulting firm; and Level 3 Communications, a Colorado communications services company whose clients have included the Homeland Security Department's Transportation Security Administration.
Napolitano's committee received $5,000 each from PACs representing financial services interests including Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of America, $4,000 from the Arizona Bankers Association .
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« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2008, 10:05:43 PM »

Obama's Presidency is going to be more unpopular then Jimmy Carter, i cant see a second term. The Economy itself will induce mass hatred over him when he diverts the infrastucture funds we need to Pakistan and GREEN technology, and destroys Coal Industiry profits thus making them lay off more people and making energy alot more expensive. His economic plan is a roadmap to hell.
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« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2008, 10:49:52 PM »

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=137112

Hey nObama, keep the f**king change!

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UNBELIEVABLE! LA RAZA VP, CECILIA MUNOZ, TO BE OBAMA'S DIR OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS

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Date: Thursday, 4 December 2008, 7:18 p.m.
Hows that for 'change' you can count on. You can count on Amnesty being pushed through, even though 75% of Americans protest it.

We're already broke, how are we going to absorb, and pay for, all the other illegals stealing from Americans? Oh, I forgot, Obama Hood is going to steal from the rich to give to the un-working poor.

Yes, this ought to make the depression easier to handle. No more of those vigilante policemen either. The ones who listen to the legal Americans and keep illegals from their city limits.

Viva la Amero! (NOT!)
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PS This woman lives on hate. Google her, or search her out on youtube, and her La Raza organization. See what you find. Honey, if you want to define racist, look in the mirror.
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Cecilia Muñoz, Director of Intergovernmental Affairs

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The pro-amnesty racist group La Raza has managed to slip one of it's own into the Obama staff at the White House. Cecilia Muñoz, Senior Vice President of La Raza has been appointed to the intergovernmental affairs position in the Obama White House. This is on top of the recent appointment of pro-amnesty for illegal aliens Bill Richardson as the Commerce Secretary. Anyone who didn't see all these pro-amnesty people being appointed into the Obama administration simply haven't been paying attention.

Here's her official positions she holds as released with the announcement...

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Cecilia Muñoz, Director of Intergovernmental Affairs

Cecilia Muñoz currently serves as Senior Vice President for the Office of Research, Advocacy, and Legislation at the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), where she supervises all legislative and advocacy activities conducted by NCLR policy staff. Muñoz is the Chair of the Board of Center for Community Change, and serves on the U.S. Programs Board of the Open Society Institute and the Board of Directors of the Atlantic Philanthropies.

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In her new post, Muñoz will be responsible for managing relations between the Obama administration and state and local governments.

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Muñoz spoke about how the public, including the media, did not understand the NCLR’s goal of economic equity and social justice for immigrants. “My organization in particular gets challenged, especially in the media,” Muñoz said. “I’m not just taking about talk radio or Fox, but even CNN. We get portrayed as a radical, U.S.-hating, brown beret-wearing separatist organization hell-bent on retrieving the Southwest United States for Mexico, which is really silly.”

Haha. You silly Americans. Thinking we are trying to overthrow portions of your country as we openly support politicians because they are Hispanic or Seriously pro-Hispanic only, who have other countries interests at heart, and all because we want your borders left wide open so that millions of our fellow foreigners of only our race can invade your country. Haha. You are all so silly to see that as a threat from our group.
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/003025.html

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Pro-Amnesty Activist Joins Obama White House Staff
Wednesday, December 03, 2008
By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer

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She cited legislation passed in Hazelton, Pa., for example, which made renting property to illegal aliens against the law, and road blocks on Georgia highways “because local police had gotten into the business of immigration enforcement.”

“They thought, ‘If we round people up, if we make the climate hostile, undocumented immigrants will go away,” Muñoz said. “So if you happen to look Mexican and you’re driving down the highway in Georgia, you’re very likely to be picked up by these road blocks.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=40162
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« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2008, 10:51:41 PM »



nice polish symbol page!

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« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2008, 10:53:54 PM »

nice polish symbol page!

That's the link from the Rense website, I don't know why it redirects you but I copied the article.
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« Reply #76 on: December 04, 2008, 11:01:57 PM »

Department of Intergovernmental Affairs looks to be a window position. The kind of job you sit in an office and stare out the window all day.
In other words, this guy is getting a make work job in the billion dollar civil service. Probably for his community activism in the Hispanic community.
This is someone on Obama's staff getting some good old fashioned patronization done.
And this is no way different than the shenanigans of Bush with the Arabian Horse Judge FEMA Leader Heckuvajob Browny.

Obama probably isn't to concerned with secondary and tertiary positions in the impersonal bureaucracy. Him and Biden have a war in Pakistan to brew up while ZBig returns to the nuclear chess board.
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« Reply #77 on: December 04, 2008, 11:45:12 PM »

They want to legalize the immigrants so they can tax them, just like the Womens civil rights movements, they wanted to tax the women then.
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« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2008, 11:52:10 PM »

More recruits for the Obama youth brigades.
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« Reply #79 on: December 05, 2008, 02:20:38 AM »

I'm not racist but I have to say that I see nothing good about La Raza.  Maybe if I was Mexican I would but otherwise I don't.
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