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« on: November 14, 2008, 05:43:04 AM »



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNAy2hs6oI

Ever since Obama began talking about expanding the war in Afghanistan and attacking Pakistan, the so-called liberal talking heads have been silent, no longer talking about the need to bring our troops home.

Now they're becoming war hawks, propogandizing for an expansion of the war and suggesting that we may need to attack Pakistan to get you used to the idea.

This is what happens when you go from presenting what you believe is true to presenting what your bosses tell you is true.

Your brain responds "This does not compute! This does not compute!"
and you turn into a giggling imbecile.

Rachel, save yourself before its too late.  Give up the money and go somewhere you can follow your conscience.

BRING ALL OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!!

We need to respect the right of other countries to decide their own fate and stop sacrificinng our young men and women for nothing.
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 05:44:56 AM »

Evidence: Republicans and Democrats are in fact identical.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 06:14:32 AM »

Yep, what a sellout.

I hope some of her lesbian sisters kick her butt for being a traitor.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 06:26:07 AM »

LOL , like most of us did not know prior to the election that this very thing would happen if barry won.   Well I do know of a few on here who are still clueless, but then they have been doing mental gymnastics for quite some time now to cut  the democrats slack for their partisipation in the bush regime afterall.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 06:31:27 AM »

Well duhh, they were all behind Clinton when he was bombing aspirin factories. They are all the same.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 06:38:05 AM »

Yes, and Madeline Albrecht or however you spell her name said the deaths of 1 million Iraqis, a large number of whom were children, because of the US sanctions against Iraq dring the Clinton regime was "worth it."
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 06:59:07 AM »

I knew Obama was gonna go back on his promises to bring the troops home..he likes the power of being a war hawk....screw those lefty tree huggers, that got him his power...this guys gonna metamorphisize into obamahawk..the renegade..
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 08:53:28 AM »




  This article is dated but Barkey wants to leave 100,000 troops in Iraq INDEFINITELY and 140,000  BLACKWATER personnel INDEFINITELY!  I heard this on Rense last night.  Ralph Schoenman reported what Obama said and still believes.

http://votersforpeace.us/press/index.php?itemid=142

April 02 2008
Obama Would Leave More Than 100,000 Troop -- Public and Private -- in Iraq

Obama's credentials as a peace candidate are shrinking quickly. Late last week he described his approach to foreign policy as like George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and JFK. Those president's were involved in many wars. The escalation of Vietnam into a quagmire occurred under JFK. Reagan found in Latin American, Nicaragua and El Salvador, and his administration was involved in the Iran-Conta violations. And George H.W. Bush's Gulf War laid the ground work for Clinton's sanctions which led into George W. Bush's invasion and occupation. Now, Obama describes with greater detail what he would do in Iraq and it sounds like he would leave more than 100,000 troops, close to 200,000 in Iraq. Troops meaning U.S. soldiers and military contractors which some call mercanaries. See below. Is he beginning to run to the center-right thinking he has the nomination sewed up? Sadly, other than his initial speech before he was a U.S. senator his voting record has included support for the war.

UPDATE: OBAMA'S POSITION ON IRAQ
April 1, 2008

AMY GOODMAN: Senator Obama, quick question: 70 percent of Iraqis say they want the US to withdraw completely; why don't you call for a total withdrawal?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, I do, except for our embassy. I call for amnesty and protecting our civilian contractors there.

AMY GOODMAN: You've said a residual force-

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Yeah, but-

AMY GOODMAN: -which means [inaudible] thousands [inaudible].

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, no. I mean, I don't think that you've read exactly what I've said. What I said is that we do need to have a strike force in the region. It doesn't necessarily have to be in Iraq; it could be in Kuwait or other places. But we do have to have some presence in order to not only protect them, but also potentially to protect their territorial integrity.

AMY GOODMAN: Can you call for a ban on the private military contractors like Blackwater?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: I've actually-I'm the one who sponsored the bill that called for the investigation of Blackwater in [inaudible], so-

AMY GOODMAN: But would you support the Sanders one now?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Here's the problem: we have 140,000 private contractors right there, so unless we want to replace all of or a big chunk of those with US troops, we can't draw down the contractors faster than we can draw down our troops. So what I want to do is draw-I want them out in the same way that we make sure that we draw out our own combat troops. Alright? I mean, I-

AMY GOODMAN: Not a ban?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, I don't want to replace those contractors with more US troops, because we don't have them, alright?
 





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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2008, 09:02:33 AM »

Mr. Disinformation
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2008, 09:13:12 AM »

Well, come on. It's owned by General Electric. We all know how the two-party system works here... They're both owned. Come on, PP Forum... No surprises here.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2008, 09:17:26 AM »

I'd say by mid-February, it'll be glaringly obvious to the average American that Obama is as pro-war as Bush was, that U.S. troops will be stationed in Iraq for the indefinite future, and that it will be business as usual for the expanding police state.

What will Keith and Rachel be talking about then?

Will they still be obsessing over Sarah Palin (or some other meaningless distraction), so as not to draw embarrassing attention to how badly they deceived their anti-war/anti-police state viewers into supporting a pro-war/pro-police state candidate?

The question practically answers itself.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2008, 09:20:26 AM »

Rachel is much more stuck in the left/right paradigm then Keith.  She used to give some decent commentary but now her show has been turned into a complete cheerleading campaign for the Rockefeller (Pelosi/Obama) agenda.  Whenever rational thought pierces through her matrix of an absolute centralized controlled left paradigm, she squashes it (like during the f-d up bailout).  Her only faint attempt at genuinity occured when she allowed Ron Paul to tralk unhindered for 5 minutes.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2008, 09:43:14 AM »

Ms. Information as in misinformation. Double-think, woo!

They're even telling you its bullsh*t!
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2008, 10:19:24 AM »

It’s all a sports-like-game: Side A supports A while hating B and Side B supports B while hating A.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2008, 10:30:37 AM »

Quote

We need to respect the right of other countries to decide their own fate and stop sacrificinng our young men and women for nothing.


blame the crybaby cult.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2008, 10:45:58 AM »

http://darthchaosofrspw.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/rachel-maddow-presents-war-propaganda-on-msnbcanti-war-left-under-bush-warmongering-left-under-obama/

http://darthchaosofrspw.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/obama-would-leave-more-than-100000-troop-public-and-private-in-iraq/

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2008, 11:33:33 AM »

Yep, what a sellout.

I hope some of her lesbian sisters kick her butt for being a traitor.

Not likely, now they, too, will talk of the need for something to be done.
Expect lots of human interest stories to come from Afghanistan and Iraq now. Just like the MSM did for Croatia, Haiti and Somalia.
The Red branch of the Party does war for patriotic fervency while the Blue branch of the Party does war because it cares.

It's like people are hypnotized. Now Republicans will go back to non interventionist politics and limited government and the Democrats will take the place of military interventionism and big government. Smoke and mirrors. Bread and circuses. Divide and conquer.

I blame this thing:

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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2008, 12:39:42 PM »



I blame this thing:



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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2008, 11:57:25 PM »

Great job, saw this video and a link to the forum on PrisonPlanet!
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2008, 12:04:57 AM »

I saw this coming over a year ago. The Neolibs will be 100 times worse than the Neocons.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2008, 12:12:57 AM »

The Neolibs will be 100 times worse than the Neocons.

They neolibs are the neocons.

That's the whole point.

They're two sides of the same NWO coin.
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2008, 12:31:41 AM »

They neolibs are the neocons.

That's the whole point.

They're two sides of the same NWO coin.

I'm talking about the lower level Neolibs. Like the O-Bots that believe anything the Republicans do is bad, therefore anything the Dems do is good. The true suckers of the Left/Right paradigm.

But yes, at the top they are all the same.
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2008, 01:37:52 AM »

Remember the neo-cons ow their roots to cold war dem's which isn't much of a surprise considering the wretched Illuminati sculpted them to be the political vehicle, now they run the GOP and its a dead set one party dictatorship.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2008, 01:40:38 AM »

So, is MSNBC going to be the FOXNEWS of the Democrats?     
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2008, 05:01:21 AM »

The worst part is that people will go along with this under Obama.
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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2008, 05:54:05 AM »

So, is MSNBC going to be the FOXNEWS of the Democrats?     

Chris Matthews: My Job Is To Help Make Obama’s Presidency a Success
http://patterico.com/2008/11/08/chris-matthews-my-job-is-to-help-make-obamas-presidency-a-success/

It sure seems that way.
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2008, 09:52:31 AM »

Now the Obamaniacs are saying we NEED to go after Osama Bin Ladin and we NEED an Afghanistan surge.

Next it will be, we NEED troops in the streets--Obama says so--we NEED internment camps, forced vacinations, youth spies, forced national service, and on and on.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2008, 09:57:56 AM »

lol misinformation.
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