US Supreme Court: Obama must present Birth Cert by Dec 1

[Capt. Obvious]

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter’s Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

“I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”

Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.
http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-obamas-birth-certificate/

and

http://www.rightsidenews.com/200811072518/editorial/america-the-beautiful.html

and

http://obamacrimes.com/

and on the supreme court website: http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

[vcif]

Is there anything official that says he is required to present the Certificate by 12/1? It looks like he just has to respond to the Writ.

By the way, there is no president-elect at this time because there has not been a presidential election. That occurs on 12/13. There won't even be a president elect at that time because CONgress has to count and certify the votes on 1/4/2009.

[cathiasus]

It's not like the sheep would even care if it turns out he is Kenyan.

[Protean]

Believe me--if "they" can pull off the Federal Reserve, the JFK, MLK, RFK, MX assassinations, the Warren Commission and 911--they can pull off this one. ----->Closed door session, a favor or two, judicial careers in serious jeopardy ANNNDDDDD wala--free as a birdie.

How do you like your corruption, over easy or sunny side up?

 

[LeftyLeo]

Imagine the fallout if the court finds Obama is not a citizen and decertify him and name McCain the winner! I suspect the African-American community will blow a gasket, with some claiming the white man has stole the election. Maybe that is what all this civil unrest preperations are about, knowing there is a chance Obama will be found out, and people will cry foul. God help us.

[Intruth]

OR just call him the first born of the new citizens of the one world government

[Nailer]

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter’s Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

“I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”

Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.
http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-obamas-birth-certificate/

and

http://www.rightsidenews.com/200811072518/editorial/america-the-beautiful.html

and

http://obamacrimes.com/

and on the supreme court website: http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

~~~Date~~~  ~~~~~~~Proceedings  and  Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008) 
Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed.


" Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.  "  DENIED by the Obama judge snouter oops  Souter

[Darth Chaos]

Imagine the fallout if the court finds Obama is not a citizen and decertify him and name McCain the winner! I suspect the African-American community will blow a gasket, with some claiming the white man has stole the election. Maybe that is what all this civil unrest preperations are about, knowing there is a chance Obama will be found out, and people will cry foul. God help us.

But if McCain too is ineligible, then shouldn't the candidate who got 3rd place get the presidency? I wonder who finished in 3rd. Would the blacks be appeased if Cynthia McKinney end up getting the presidency?

[menace]

Ralph Nader finished in 3rd place.

Nader: 685,784
Barr: 504,068
Baldwin: 181,342
McKinney: 148,621
 
Ron Paul: 19,285... could be more..
 

 

[DireWolf]

We have before us a scenario that could very well prove to be the tipping point needed for Bush to implement PDD 51. Should Obama be unable or unwilling to produce the required proof required of him, the race factor could be used to create a potentially explosive scenario where we all lose, remember the NWO cares not who is called president so long as their agenda is advanced and such an outcome would go a long way towards that.

I am not predicting anything nor would I wish to see such a scenario happen, just musing on the many possibilities but keeping in mind who is behind it all and their reasons for doing so.

[Darth Chaos]

Ralph Nader finished in 3rd place.

Nader: 685,784
Barr: 504,068
Baldwin: 181,342
McKinney: 148,621
 
Ron Paul: 19,285... could be more..
 

 

So if Obama and McCain were both ruled ineligible and disqualified, Nader would be the president?

[Ford Falcon]

I thought I heard on the radio today that Kenya wants to create a national holiday in honor of Obama. My question is, why would any country want to do that for one of their own if they are no longer a citizen (supposedly)?

[Anti_Illuminati]

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/scotus-souter-t.html

Ok what's the bottom line on this?

UPDATE From Berg's site:

    Press Release 11-07-08: US Supreme Court awaits response to Berg Writ of Certiorari from Obama, DNC and co-defendants
    Saturday, 08 November 2008 04:23 administrator Main - News    For Immediate Release: - 11/07/08
    U. S. SUPREME COURT AWAITS RESPONSE TO BERG'S WRIT OF CERTIORARI FROM OBAMA, DNC and Co-DEFENDANTS (Contact information and PDF at end) (Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 11/07/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States filed a Writ of Certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on October 30, 2008, requesting review of the United States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Judge Surrick’s Dismissal of Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit against Barack H. Obama, Jr., the DNC and the other co-Defendants. Accordingly, the U. S. Supreme Court has set dates in which Barack Obama, the DNC and all co-Defendants are to respond to the Writ, which is on or before December 1, 2008.
    Mr. Berg remarked today, “I look forward to receiving Defendant Obama's response to the Writ and am hopeful the U. S. Supreme Court will review Berg v. Obama. I believe Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally-qualified natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of President of the United States.”
    Mr. Berg’s case, Berg vs. Obama was dismissed from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Docket # 08-cv-4083 for lack of standing. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari for review of the case and an injunction to stay the election pending review. Justice Souter denied the injunction. It is expected that the Court will decide whether or not to review Berg v. Obama after the Defendants file their response, and Mr. Berg has replied to the Defendant’s response. The Defendants' response is due by December 1st and Mr. Berg's reply will be submitted thereafter.

I expect Obama's response to be the birth certificate. What could it be? What else should it be? Another stall? Why?

UPDATE: Let me clarify, Obama does NOT HAVE TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, though he should.

He must respond and considering the fact he was elected .....

    Here is the SCOTUS website showing what is on SCOTUS's docket:

    Robert's  translation of what SCOTUS tells us on their webpage as far as Berg's case:

    Berg filed a lawsuit in the Third Circuit, which means in a federal court somewhere in PA or NJ (seeking to require Obama to disclose the birth certificate).  The Third Circuit denied that suit (on the basis that Berg doesn't have standing).  Berg applied to SCOTUS for a writ of cert -- this just asks SCOTUS to take a look at the merits of the case that got dismissed in the lower court.  SCOTUS gives Obama until Dec. 3 to respond to the application for a writ of cert. While SCOTUS is deciding whether to grant the writ and to then take a look at the merits (i.e., whether to decide if Obama has to produce the birth certificate), Berg files an application for an injunction -- I assume an injunction to delay the election until Obama shows the birth certificate.  That application is denied on Nov. 3 and the election continues.  SCOTUS has not yet decided whether to grant the writ or not.  By Dec. 3, Obama may or may not respond to the application for a writ of cert.  [INSERT:  Ok so the part in RED, is that the way it is then at this point?

In the Berg case, it is only after SCOTUS grants the writ of cert that SCOTUS will take up the issue of whether Obama has to produce the birth certificate.  That's the thing Berg is asking for, and right now that's not even being considered by SCOTUS, they're still on the issue of whether to take the case or not.

[otero1]

Rumors of order from the Supreme Court unfounded

http://obamacrimes.com/index.php/news/56-rumors-of-order-form-the-supreme-court-unfounded

Mr. Berg has been receiving phone calls today asking for a copy of  "the order from the Supreme Court requiring that Obama produce his citizenship documentation."

Mr. Berg has not received notification of any such order or anything similar to it, nor is it posted on the Supreme Court website.

This must be regarded as an unfounded rumor until it appears on the Supreme Court website or Mr. Berg receives notification.

If and when the Court does issue such an order, we will post it immediately.

Webmaster

[TahoeBlue]

If this comes to a head...
I predict a Senate resolution will declare Obama a Natural Born Citizen as they did Senator McCain - Voted - April 30, 2008 sr511 :

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/show

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself and Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee
_______________
 
RESOLUTION

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

[Byrne0ut]

So there is no court case pending.  Please double check your sources before you post things.

[peepnklown]

I’d take Nader rather than Obama and McCain.     

[Shewolf]

Bush has been looking like the cat that swallowed the canary lately. We'll find out soon enough what's going to happen.

[LeftyLeo]

So there is no court case pending.  Please double check your sources before you post things.

Not sure why you say no case pending. Berg's case is in fact "pending" as it is not been ruled on yet, which means it is pending!

[Byrne0ut]

the only thing it says it that the motion was denied.  Which means it is no longer pending.

[Triadtropz]

the only thing it says it that the motion was denied.  Which means it is no longer pending.

This is a NWO...he doesnt have to produce a birth certificate...the constitution is dead....

[EchelonMonitor]

What about this scenario:

Supreme court rules Obama not a natural born citizen

A consitutional convention is quickly called to change the constitution so any citizen can become president and Obama is inaugerated

Arnold gets the Republican nomination in 2012

[Capt. Obvious]

So there is no court case pending.  Please double check your sources before you post things.

Wrong. The defendant is required to respond by Dec 1. Apparently they doin't *have* to produce the birth certificate by then, but they do need to respond to the Supreme Court by then.

From Berg's own site:

U. S. SUPREME COURT AWAITS RESPONSE TO
BERG'S WRIT OF CERTIORARI
FROM OBAMA, DNC and Co-DEFENDANTS

(Contact information and PDF at end)

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 11/07/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States filed a Writ of Certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on October 30, 2008, requesting review of the United States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Judge Surrick’s Dismissal of Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit against Barack H. Obama, Jr., the DNC and the other co-Defendants. Accordingly, the U. S. Supreme Court has set dates in which Barack Obama, the DNC and all co-Defendants are to respond to the Writ, which is on or before December 1, 2008.

Mr. Berg remarked today, “I look forward to receiving Defendant Obama's response to the Writ and am hopeful the U. S. Supreme Court will review Berg v. Obama. I believe Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally-qualified natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of President of the United States.”

Mr. Berg’s case, Berg vs. Obama was dismissed from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Docket # 08-cv-4083 for lack of standing. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari for review of the case and an injunction to stay the election pending review. Justice Souter denied the injunction. It is expected that the Court will decide whether or not to review Berg v. Obama after the Defendants file their response, and Mr. Berg has replied to the Defendant’s response.

The Defendants' response is due by December 1st and Mr. Berg's reply will be submitted thereafter.

http://obamacrimes.com/

[disciplecore]

This is a NWO...he doesnt have to produce a birth certificate...the constitution is dead....

ITS OK!!! I know CPR: Constitution pulmonary Resuscitation!!!! lol i had to do it!

i think Mccain would be able to fight it and become president, being In the navy as a 06 captain he has more of a chance to prove being American born... 

[HWNA]

If they wanted to keep Obama out of the White House (or conversely, if they wanted John McCain IN the White House), the powers that be would have made this birth certificate thing an issue about a month or two before the election.

They would have recruited their assets in the media to help them push the story, the court would have found Obama to not be a natural born citizen and John McCain would be the one visiting President Bush at the White House this week.

OR...

They purposefully held back on this thing so as to create a state of chaos before Obama is to be sworn in, and will let the shit hit the fan in early January before Congress certifies the results. Then they will hit the country with a bio-terror attack and Bush will invoke the continuity plan that allows him to serve as dictator.

Otherwise, the CIA, FBI or NSA would have had this information in 2004 and when Obama declared they would have passed this to Bush who would have passed it to Hillary, or just had the FBI sit down with Obama and explain why he couldn't run.

[Darth Chaos]

What about this scenario:

Supreme court rules Obama not a natural born citizen

A consitutional convention is quickly called to change the constitution so any citizen can become president and Obama is inaugerated

Arnold gets the Republican nomination in 2012

That seems likely, however Obama would still be ineligible because such a change to the constitution cannot be applied retroactively.

I do think the "Obama not being a natural born citizen" thing is a trojan horse to get Ahnuld elected in 2012.

[plantop14]

He'll just produce a counterfeit certificate, out of thin air too!

[beijingyankee]

Imagine the fallout if the court finds Obama is not a citizen and decertify him and name McCain the winner! I suspect the African-American community will blow a gasket, with some claiming the white man has stole the election. Maybe that is what all this civil unrest preperations are about, knowing there is a chance Obama will be found out, and people will cry foul. God help us.

God help us if Barky beomes President.

[EchelonMonitor]

Looking at the details, I see that even if he was born in Hawaii, he was also a citizen of the UK (due to his father's UK citizenship) until 12th December, 1963 when he became a citizen of Kenya (due to Kenya's independence from the UK) until he turned 21, when he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship by not renouncing his US citizenship.

[den carts]

quite honestly the NWO has zero reason to put bush in as a dictator.

1. bush is nothing but a mask for them, a front man. They replace frontmen every election on the dot and just bring in new ones. The public has not figured this out yet.

2. They are into world government by stealth, slavery by stealth. Putting in such an obvious dictator as a bush with the lowest approval rating in history would not sit well with people and would not be a stealth move. Remember they are into slavery by deception, as soon as the general population realizes their freedoms are overtly phuked there will be needless resistance.

3. Obama is their man and he has charmed the people as if he is their savior! Why would they replace their own man at a huge loss of credibility for them?

IF bush were in control, obv. he would try to hold onto the office, but you forget there is a shadow government who put him there and he's always known his job is to play the part of pres.

This is why I get suspicious of naomi wolf. It has been LONG ENOUGH for her to realize that the destruction of the constitution and the governmental power grab is not about bush! It's about the NWO. The fact that she's still pushing bush as the evil after all this time puzzles me. How can she still be ignoring the elephant in the room?

[menace]

An new radio interview about the Berg vs Obama.

http://tinyurl.com/57afpl

[Q]

He'll just produce a counterfeit certificate, out of thin air too!

Yes, how difficult would this be? If he's their man, which he is, expect a beautiful, fully checkable, vault copy birth certificate with all the trimmings. But only if he is compelled to do so.

[menace]

'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birth location
Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see 'usurper' in Oval Office

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931

[LeftyLeo]

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

Yeah, it's not like somebody is going to steal his identity!