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That would have been very enlightening to see if they did indeed just disappear into dust as previous footage suggests, or if they topple over or collapse, could have given real clues as to exactly how the central core came down.
but no the camera followed the cloud, damn
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It wasn't the core columns that seem to disappear. It is the outer columns. However they fall strait down in the cloud of dust. Maybe?
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it is a pity that near the end of the North Tower video that the camera person moves the camera to look at the dust/debris cloud (and its kyroplastic flows) when he/she just missed filming what happened to the central steel core columns.
That would have been very enlightening to see if they did indeed just disappear into dust as previous footage suggests, or if they topple over or collapse, could have given real clues as to exactly how the central core came down.
but no the camera followed the cloud, damn
still the most convincing video I have seen on that tower. there must be hundreds of videos that citizens gave to the police in the immediate aftermath as good patriots that have been sitting in some fricking NRO storage room with the words "Not to be opened unless Cheney signs in blood."
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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2008, 09:53:05 AM » |
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still the most convincing video I have seen on that tower.
there must be hundreds of videos that citizens gave to the police in the immediate aftermath as good patriots that have been sitting in some fricking NRO storage room with the words "Not to be opened unless Cheney signs in blood."
yep it is petty damned convincing, even more so for the building 7 footage but as you say there must be loads and loads of video, not to mention news services, all locked away never released, perhaps some 'lost' in warehouses or magically magnetically wiped, an of which would prove beyond any reasonabel doubt to even a moron that controlled demo took place and what about this person's footage, what the turn off their camera for tower 2, what about the hour between hits and collapse, surely they could have released more or more sound etc I guess they were too afraid anybody with such clear footage would I am sure be found at the bottom of a stairwell or have a prescription drugs overdose or similar 'suicide'/ 'accident' but for sure such footage could change the world damned quick, save having to spend hours and hours trying to convince skeptics and give those who have not studied 9-11 an absolute certainty of what happened. but at least these videos provide yet more evidence to add to the file, which is much better than nothing
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Biggs wrote: yep it is petty damned convincing, even more so for the building 7 footage It looks like the censors at Digg.com must think it is convincing also, for it has not been permitted to be popular even though the story got over 260 Diggs in under 24 hours. Also, Catspaw (me) made a comment - the third one on the page, about some of the windows in WTC 7 being blown out 21 seconds into the video and the Digg counter is stuck on +1 for that comment, although I can now see 17 friends names who Dugg it. Refer: http://digg.com/politics/New_Footage_of_WTC_Collapse_on_9_11_Has_Appeared_on_Internet
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when I click on to digg your comment it updated to plus 59, same with a troll who was on 1 and I buried and he went to -22
but on first view the numbers are stuck, only after digging can you see the exact figures
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« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2008, 04:17:41 PM » |
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who would sit on this for 7 years? where did it come from? who was holding the camera?
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who would sit on this for 7 years? where did it come from? who was holding the camera? And wait until the virtual end of the Bush Administration? It could have been any number of people couldn't it. Someone who was with the demolition company, someone who worked for Silverstein, a Rothschild, a bin Laden, a Bush, a member of the FBI or the CIA.. 
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« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2008, 04:45:09 PM » |
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it looks like a clear demolition explosion to me,Biggs never saw that vid before.
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« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2008, 04:49:57 PM » |
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« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2008, 05:13:12 PM » |
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Are there any clearer versions of it anywhere? It would be good to have the original wouldn't it, for high definition coverage of the windows being blown to bits on 7 and the flashes of demolition blasts shown in the North Tower's collapse. Hopefully a better quality version appears.
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« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2008, 03:13:30 PM » |
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a lot of people would have trouble immediately identifying that as wtc7 so i suggest the exposure of this video is done with a little subtlety
when showing it to people, don't tell them it is wtc7, ask only if they agree that it is 'a demolition job in a city somewhere' then quielty watch their fear and confusion when you tell them it is wtc7
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« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2008, 03:18:44 PM » |
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a lot of people would have trouble immediately identifying that as wtc7 so i suggest the exposure of this video is done with a little subtlety
when showing it to people, don't tell them it is wtc7, ask only if they agree that it is 'a demolition job in a city somewhere' then quielty watch their fear and confusion when you tell them it is wtc7
let their eyes not your words convince them
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« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2008, 03:20:01 PM » |
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I didn't rreally see anything different. I did see the puffs out 6 or 7 flors in one little section, but wouldnot an intentional demolition have the puffs comming all across the building instead of just one small section. Still don't see anything new or smoking-gunnish
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« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2008, 03:27:05 PM » |
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I tried to click on veoh's download link even when logged in and I get some stupid webplayer thing it wants me to have. I just want the damn video.
Any ideas how I can get that?
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« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2008, 06:44:35 PM » |
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scary stuff but will the sheep listen no they wont
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« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2008, 07:17:22 PM » |
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Sheep only believe what they've been told by the mainstream media. Look how many times the video of the second plane has been burned into our memories. It takes time to get the sheep to start to accept anything other than what they've been led to believe.
We all know 9/11 was an inside job by the government to bring about a police state. Now that Obama has been "elected", more and more sheep are starting to wake up and think for themselves. Keep spreading the truth.
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« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2008, 08:28:39 PM » |
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can someone please post more pics on this thread?
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« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2008, 08:53:05 PM » |
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Very interesting.
Can they confirmed to be new?
If so, like another poster said, who the hell is releasing this and why at this time.
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« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2008, 09:36:45 PM » |
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My God....
I don't know who really posted these, but if it is a government operative, this is a total flaunt to us. This is not just one new video, but several. Over 7 years later. It smells foul. Perhaps this is send a message to us that "Yeah, we did it. Here's the proof. No one is gonna believe you. Remember that this election season." I mean, if it is that, this is the government showing us that America is dead. That this is what is in store for you. They love shoving their past victories down our throat as they slice us up into tiny pieces.
I might be losing my mind, but all of these videos showing up at once is very suspect and it makes me even more uneasy about the election, which I'm not sure was even possible.
you know what? after some thought i think you hit the nail right on the head.
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« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2008, 01:24:58 PM » |
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I slowed down the footage from bldg 7's collapse, what the hell is this weird flash? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DauCozNmd8&watch_responseIt can be seen clearly in the original footage at roughly 6-7 seconds in.
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« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2008, 04:21:18 PM » |
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The best clip I have seen. Thanks.
Now what.
I'm fairly certain we all know this was an inside job, even the majority of the sheeple know it. Though they may not admit it for lack of courage to face the truth. They will declare us Unamerican F&**%S , disloyal, dissenters, and wiggle their flags, afterall its a much easier path of less resistance.
Its fine and dandy for some Iraqi to run down the street screaming with the body parts of his children in his arms, afterall he is not an American and its happening over there. F&**K it drink a Bud and watch the muppets.
The Gov, could shiite in the faces of most Americans, and they would smile and lick their lips. WMD's lies being a fine example of our SM's interest in the genocide, shoved in our faces. The bailout, WOW did citizens squeel, money of course, 95% of our citizens honkered. But a million humans slaughtered by lies and deceptions, Oh gee its ok, wiggle the old flag.
If a consciense was a necessary body part, to say without it a human would die, our population would decrease alarmingly. Isn't that the bottom line.
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« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2008, 08:38:06 PM » |
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Oh, hey James. Thx for the link. Enjoy your work. Very informative. Have only donated once since that's all I good spare. Looking forward to the new episode.
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« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2008, 05:16:08 AM » |
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its really frustrating how far some people will go to try and prove to us and themselves that this wasn't a controlled demolition, lookin at the youtube comments ppl will just cling on to whatever little sign that its not Sheep: "it wasnt a controlled demolition there was massive damage on the south side and alot of fires, u can see the smoke!" Me: "ok, then how do u explain how it collapses straight down so neatly in about 6 seconds, if it was due to the damage and fires it would be assymetrical and probably topple towards the south" Sheep: "it does topple towards the south, towards the end of the collapse u can see it!!!" Me: "you can see explosions crawling up the corner!" Sheep: "Yeh well it can't be coz there are firemen who say they heard no explosions." Me: "How many? We've got about 50 firemen who say they did hear explosions and even a countdown!" Sheep: "well it can't be a controlled demolition coz how would they wire up all the explosives and still have people work inside the building afterwards, and the damage to the building would have moved some of the explosives and the fires would have melted wires making the demolition uneven anyway." Me: "that's not the point, we don't need to know how they did it we just need to prove that a collapse of this kind is impossible unless it was a CD" Sheep: "but it's not impossible!!!! there was heavy damage from the debris and lots of fires!!!" Grrr 
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« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2008, 05:50:29 AM » |
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its really frustrating how far some people will go to try and prove to us and themselves that this wasn't a controlled demolition, lookin at the youtube comments ppl will just cling on to whatever little sign that its not They're hopeless cowards. Period. Let 'em find out the hard way who the real terrorists have been all along, and what complete idiots they were for mindlessly supporting them all these years.
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They're hopeless cowards. Period.
Let 'em find out the hard way who the real terrorists have been all along, and what complete idiots they were for mindlessly supporting them all these years.
honestly some times i get the feeling that we could actually be chatting with the perpetrators themselves, some of them are way too attached emotionally to certain videos and will constantly troll a particular video for weeks if not months at a time, this shows all the hallmarks of a guilty conscience or a need to cover up certain topics for fear of future prosecution and most of all ive noticed they do use alot of cunning tricks in debate, often they know stuff that only someone present would know.
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honestly some times i get the feeling that we could actually be chatting with the perpetrators themselves, some of them are way too attached emotionally to certain videos and will constantly troll a particular video for weeks if not months at a time, this shows all the hallmarks of a guilty conscience or a need to cover up certain topics for fear of future prosecution and most of all ive noticed they do use alot of cunning tricks in debate, often they know stuff that only someone present would know.
most of these people are paid to troll the video comments in youtube and google, there is a team of people dedicated to the task all paid, some full time some part time. They use different identities and writing styles, often one professional troller/disinfo agent will have many id's and many back up stories (such as different ages, professions, gender, political leanings etc)
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« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2008, 08:36:18 AM » |
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And they say we're "a religion". When their the ones who are defending the NIST, FEMA and 9/11 Commission reports which are basically the 9/11 equivalents of the bible.
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Deep throat 'speaks' Details Emerge on new WTC Collapse Videos The Corbett Report talks to source connected to the footagehttp://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20081106_details_collapse_footage.htm According to the source, the videos available on the internet come from a DVD that was compiled from raw footage taken in New York on September 11. The video on the internet has not been edited or manipulated in any way from the footage on the DVD, although the 'replay' of each collapse has been slowed down by 50 percent. The source indicated, however, that the raw footage had been edited before it was put on the DVD, thus explaining the sudden cut from a close-up of the North Tower to a long shot of the entire building with the collapse already under way. This source also dismisses internet speculation that the person who took the footage was connected in any way to the collapses themselves. Digg and comment here: http://digg.com/world_news/Details_Emerge_on_New_WTC_Collapse_Videos#
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Come on now. Anybody that has had trouble opening up a bottle or can knows about "metal expansion." The video sure validates the NIST people that Building 7 came down because of "metal expansion" and the "79th column" was the culprit!
The question is, do Patriots get rope or do the Patriots ask NIST if they want a firing squad? Of course, there is always the electric chair...
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« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2008, 02:12:48 AM » |
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Oh, hey James.
Thx for the link.
Enjoy your work. Very informative. Have only donated once since that's all I good spare.
Looking forward to the new episode.
Thanks for the kind words. Please don't worry about donating, just getting the word out about the information is the most important thing. Right now I think this video is pretty incredible and worth bringing to people's attention.
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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2008, 05:20:31 AM » |
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Come on now. Anybody that has had trouble opening up a bottle or can knows about "metal expansion." The video sure validates the NIST people that Building 7 came down because of "metal expansion" and the "79th column" was the culprit!
The question is, do Patriots get rope or do the Patriots ask NIST if they want a firing squad? Of course, there is always the electric chair...
are you joking to show how absurd the official version of events is, or are you just trolling
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Nothing to see here.
It was just that, the building felt lonely after its 2 brothers were gone, and therefore WTC7 decided to fall into its own basement to end the misery.
A classical Lonely case of SBS (shocked building syndrome) Yeah, it happens.
move on an be happy! for the American dream once again ruled! A Black American was sele... erm Elected for president! What more do ya want huh?, some people are just so hard to please...
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"And now, I said, let me show in a figure how far our nature is enlightened or unenlightened: Behold! human beings living in an underground cave, which has a mouth open towards the light and reaching all along the cave; here they have been from their childhood, and have their legs and necks chained so that they cannot move, and can only see before them, being prevented by the chains from turning round their heads. Above and behind them a fire is blazing at a distance, and between the fire and the prisoners there is a raised way; and you will see, if you look, a low wall built along the way, like the screen which marionette players have in front of them, over which they show the puppets. . . . And now look again, and see what will naturally follow if the prisoners are released and disabused of their error. At first, when any of them is liberated and compelled suddenly to stand up and turn his neck round and walk and look towards the light, he will suffer sharp pains; the glare will distress him, and he will be unable to see the realities of which in his former state he had seen the shadows; and then conceive some one saying to him, that what he saw before was an illusion, but that now, when he is approaching nearer to being and his eye is turned towards more real existence, he has a clearer vision." (Plato, from Book Seven of The Republic, "Allegory of the Cave")
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I take it from that Plato quote (a good one) that you were just trolling and believe the official version of events, or something near to it.
i.e. you believe we are all wayward and deluded
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