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I was debating voting for Baldwin or (Obama) for the last 3 weeks. I was considering voting for Obama because I could see right through John McCain's B.S. and it was the same policy that we've seen for the past 8 years. I was also thinking about Obama because as far as bones in the closet I did not see any and he does not have much of an established negative record. Then this past week and last last week something just did not make since about Obama. You don't make it this far without being bought off. If Obama was a Ron Paul he would never have made it this far. I was not going to vote for him because I liked his policies but it was it was just the hope that he would make things better. It was a vote that I could not make. There is something about Obama that I just do not like. From the pictures of him dipicted as a holly man or people calling him "the one". There is no substance there. He is not like me. He would only want to strengthen government to have more and more control over our lives. The issue with the birth certificate, the marxist friends, the terrorist, the leftwing foundations, The lack of history on this guy. The trip to Germany. "Where did he come from?" There is to much of a cult of personality.
A cult of personality or personality cult arises when a country's leader uses mass media to create a heroic public image through unquestioning flattery and praise. Cults of personality are often found in dictatorships. A cult of personality is similar to general hero worship except that it is created specifically for political leaders. However, the term may be applied by analogy to refer to adulation of religious or non-political leaders.
Anyway I voted for my principles. I voted for what I believe in. My vote adds to the others to show that we are not happy with the two choices that the establishment puts in front of our face.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 09:13:21 PM » |
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Good choice. I wish I could vote for Baldwin but I can't in PA.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 09:15:53 PM » |
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Good call
I also voted for Chuck Baldwin by absentee ballot today!
It was simply the right thing to do!
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 09:43:09 PM » |
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I too will be voting Chuck Baldwin this Tuesday, he impressed me in the recent debate and Ron Paul endorsed him. In addition, I will vote OUT all incumbents. In my State, The Constitution Party is on the ballot and I will vote straight Constitution Party. If this State were to only have the other two on the ballot.. I'd not vote.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 09:54:58 PM » |
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Congrats. I'm handing out Baldwin fliers, stickers, and buttons this weekend, can't wait.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 10:26:10 PM » |
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I will not be voting. There is no point in voting since your vote does not count. Besides, they want people to vote because it shows them that people believe in THEIR system. The controllers know that people who think they have a say in their system will never work to bring about a change from outside that system. It's the sham of elections that has prevented there from being any revolutions in this country.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 10:54:17 PM » |
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I will not be voting. There is no point in voting since your vote does not count. Besides, they want people to vote because it shows them that people believe in THEIR system. The controllers know that people who think they have a say in their system will never work to bring about a change from outside that system. It's the sham of elections that has prevented there from being any revolutions in this country.
It's a tough pill to swallow but he's right. I'm in Canada and after 30-plus years of voting in EVERY municipal, provincial and federal election, I now see the light. We can have all the belief we want, but it won't change the fact that the entire system is an illusion - especially elections - and voter turnout is just a measure for the elite know how good or badly they're doing. But if you HAVE to vote, do Chuck for sure! |
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 10:57:04 PM » |
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umm...ok...Good luck with that. It's all over except for the shouting anyways! Noone is going to review the votes and say, hey look, they're some folks who want it like they say it! If you're not voting for one of the two parties, then you're not really voting at all. We can not fix this problem through yard signs and elections. You eat what they give you, and you like it or you puke. There's no talking our way out of this shit. Peaceful revolution? That's like telling your mom that the local bully is giving you shit. Either you beat his ass by any means, or you continue to take it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 11:12:51 PM » |
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The people who voted for Baldwin; are you Christians?
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 11:16:14 PM » |
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I will not be voting. There is no point in voting since your vote does not count. Besides, they want people to vote because it shows them that people believe in THEIR system. The controllers know that people who think they have a say in their system will never work to bring about a change from outside that system. It's the sham of elections that has prevented there from being any revolutions in this country.
Well I agree that if you vote dem or repub for president, then you are showing support for their system. But if you vote for someone opposed to their system in a third party then you are showing your disdain for their system. So your vote does count as a protest to their system. I agree that elections in general are a sham. To me thats all the more reason to vote third party because if enough people do that, then third party candidates can begin to build momentum and bring more exposure to the fact that the game is rigged. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2008, 11:35:39 PM » |
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Vote? Oh!!! The illusion of choice? Ha ha!!! Good one!!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2008, 11:56:42 PM » |
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Free to choose from their choices = American freedom... no thanks.
The system must die and be eradicated before anyone will ever have Freedom. But if voting makes people feel powerful then so be it, but in the end you will hear the 3rd, 4th, 5th party candidates once on Tuesday night. Well maybe once if you're lucky. We cannot and will not win this way.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2008, 02:22:59 AM » |
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When the Bilderberg puppets push too far, and it is inevitable they will, we will need the Libertarian and Constitution Parties and their members to reform a more perfect union.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2008, 02:56:43 AM » |
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I will be writing in Chuck Baldwin/Darrell Castle on Tuesday, they are not on my ballot.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2008, 05:41:50 AM » |
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Is it true that they just throw the write in ballots away? I want to vote for Chuck Baldwin, but he's not on the ballot in PA. So if they're just going to throw my ballot away then I don't even see the point in voting.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2008, 11:59:44 AM » |
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Imagine for a second... we as a movement for truth, for liberty, for the constitution, all got together and began talking about objectives, hopes, and began sharing information with a concerted effort to best affect our freedom. My letter to liberty leadership- http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=67547 |
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2008, 12:26:27 PM » |
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Good for you voting on principle instead of leaning on the Lesser evil excuse.
Let's think of some funny things to say to people who use that Lesser evil excuse.
"Yea, I was a Mormon but because it wasn't as big as the Evangelical Christian sects--the biggest basic category of Judeo-Christianity, I joined them."
"Yea, as soon as America has latinos as the majority, I'm going to learn spanish and eat mexican food--gotta join the crowd ya know."
"As soon as Islam overtakes Christianity as the leading World religion as predicted by 2040, I will become Islamic, should I become Sunni or Shite?"
"If I get a divorce, it's no big thing as half do it anyway."
"I felt bad just driving a Saturn, so I contemplated on more mainstream brands like Chrysler or Ford, I got a Ford."
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2008, 12:28:05 PM » |
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My stupid california absentee ballot only had:
BARR
OBAMA
MCCAIN
NADAR
And since I dont trust the 'write in' method...
I voted for Nadar/Gonzalez
I wished Ron Paul stayed on there...
Does anyone know if you can CHECK if your vote is correct?
My ballot had a number.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2008, 03:24:09 PM » |
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My stupid california absentee ballot only had:
BARR
OBAMA
MCCAIN
NADAR
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2008, 04:54:19 PM » |
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I plan on voting for him on Tuesday.  |
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2008, 06:02:10 PM » |
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Go Chuck Go!!!
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2008, 07:44:12 PM » |
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Good choice. I wish I could vote for Baldwin but I can't in PA.
Sure you can -write in. |
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2008, 08:24:20 PM » |
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To add to this I also voted to fire my congressman. It's sad because I looked at his issues and I support damn near all of them but he voted for just about all the garbage aswell that threatens the issues that are good. I also voted on some issues that I found pretty troubling to amend the constitution to protect private property rights in ground water, lakes and other watercourses. Which was a good idea. One of the things it does is it lets the property owner be able to retrieve water off of their own land and not have to worry about being hounded from the water district. Water the falls on your property is yours. And you have a right to siphon off water from a lake or river that flows on part of your property.
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2008, 10:42:55 PM » |
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Yeah throw out all the bums except Kucinich and Paul.
We seriously need to get the Constitution and Libertarian parties on all the ballots in all the states.
I'm in Florida so they are both on already.
Any state that doesn't have them on we should spend the next 4 years getting them on.
That is of course if we are having elections in 2012 providing we aren't in a 2nd Civil War by then.
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2008, 12:48:01 PM » |
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Yeah Baldwain sounds like a good pick. I usually go Nader but someone on this forum turned me on to Baldwin with the debate the other day.
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2008, 05:51:02 PM » |
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Baldwin is my favourite out of the third party candidates.
However, due to the media's biased lack of coverage, there are only 2 viable candidates: John McCain and Barack Obama. I will be voting for Obama, because he is at least competent.
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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2008, 11:25:13 PM » |
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I voted for the only independent candidate since I hate the party system, but Chuck was probably my favorite of the Party players.
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2008, 12:11:20 AM » |
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Baldwin is my favourite out of the third party candidates.
However, due to the media's biased lack of coverage, there are only 2 viable candidates: John McCain and Barack Obama. I will be voting for Obama, because he is at least competent.
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2008, 06:51:43 AM » |
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Chuck Baldwin, has my vote on Tuesday!!!!!!!
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2008, 01:45:37 PM » |
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Baldwin is my favourite out of the third party candidates.
However, due to the media's biased lack of coverage, there are only 2 viable candidates: John McCain and Barack Obama. I will be voting for Obama, because he is at least competent.
Obama just said other day he was going to "End this war and go get Osama Bin Laden for killing 3,000 Americans on 9/11" Seems like more of the same to me. I'll be writing in Chuck Baldwin here in the "Constitution State". |
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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2008, 08:49:36 PM » |
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Baldwin is my favourite out of the third party candidates.
However, due to the media's biased lack of coverage, there are only 2 viable candidates: John McCain and Barack Obama. I will be voting for Obama, because he is at least competent.
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2008, 06:02:26 PM » |
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Thank god I Voted for baldwin a couple of days ago, while my family voted for nobama sadly.
Nobama is a globalist.
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I'm not a fan of either party, I'm an American and a partiot and thank god ron paul gets my vote.
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2008, 06:03:54 PM » |
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Baldwin is my favourite out of the third party candidates.
However, due to the media's biased lack of coverage, there are only 2 viable candidates: John McCain and Barack Obama. I will be voting for Obama, because he is at least competent.
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I'm not a fan of either party, I'm an American and a partiot and thank god ron paul gets my vote.
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2008, 07:48:47 PM » |
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Baldwin is my favourite out of the third party candidates.
However, due to the media's biased lack of coverage, there are only 2 viable candidates: John McCain and Barack Obama. I will be voting for Obama, because he is at least competent.
yup, he sure is competent. Competent at giving over a Trillion US$ to the international banking elite. Voting to genocide millions of Iraqi civilians 5 times. Voting to grant immunity to anti-constitutional telecoms that engaged in sadistic violations of the 4th/1st amendment pre 9/11. Stresses the need for a National ID card. Competent in building support for additional brigades in Afghanistan to genocide more civilian populations. Hope you can sleep at night knowing you voted for such a highly competent NWO puppet. WTF? |
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2008, 07:56:10 PM » |
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Im writing in Baldwin tomorrow.
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2008, 08:05:16 PM » |
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Just imagine that the election is fair and Chuck actually wins!
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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2008, 08:09:38 PM » |
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Just imagine that the election is fair and Chuck actually wins! unfortunately even a fair election wouldnt help Baldwin win, but im voting my conscience regardless |
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« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2008, 08:13:52 PM » |
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unfortunately even a fair election wouldnt help Baldwin win, but im voting my conscience regardless
You're right: we'd also need a non corrupt media. Good on you, though, I'm a non-voter (in Canada) but I'd be proud to vote for Baldwin or Paul. |
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« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2008, 08:19:12 PM » |
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You're right: we'd also need a non corrupt media Yeah i was going to say that. If you included educated public and non corrupt media Ron Paul should be in there. But thats not where we are at  |
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« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2008, 08:27:33 PM » |
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I will be casting my vote for Baldwin tomorrow, though I mourn this country's descent into chaos.
All of you voting for McCain or Obama, you are all suckers. Plain and simple.
There is no excuse for casting a ballot in favor of these swine.
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