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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2007, 12:35:10 PM » |
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Love, the IHS in the "Jesuit crest" - which does not solely belong to the Jesuits - stand for the three consonants in the Latin spelling of Jesus: IHESUS. (There is no "J" in the Latin language. The real name of Caesar was spelled Iulius, not Julius.) On many medieval Latin (non-Jesuit) inscriptions, you will see the name abbreviated IHS. Seriously, if you're going to engage in conspiracy theories, please make them historically plausible.  The transliteration of Jesus from the greek  The Jesuit IHS, besides being set in the male/female sun symbol is traced back to it's pagan meaning in another of Prof.Veith's videos on Secret Societies. The Jesuits claim IHS stands for something else, but Veith well documents it. It is clearly a sun symbol. This in no way has anything to do with Jesus. |
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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2007, 04:11:47 PM » |
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I would dearly love to see Veith's so-called "documentation" - because I am a medieval studies scholar and archaeologist, and have seen the usage of IHS as reference to Jesus in many inscriptions. Really... there is truth, and there are wingnut conspiracy theories. This is one of them. |
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2007, 07:44:36 PM » |
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It was very wrong to do a documentary mixing 9/11 with religion.
The religion aspect of it was terrible.
I would not recommend this to anyone.
That's exactly why I didn't watch it. Someone showed me a trailer of it and apparently it was a trailer for the religious part. It was horrible. |
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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2007, 08:19:10 PM » |
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You can watch parts 2 and 3 without seeing 1. I recommend parts 2 and 3 most highly. Just don't watch 1 if you believe it's against your faith.
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« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2007, 09:34:41 PM » |
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Remove the blinders first, ready......., We have a pretty good idea who runs the Fed and they are all backed by the Vatican Bank thru the banker Rothschilds. The Rockefeller ran CFR has full political control over the United States and Israel, Rockefeller is under the Rothschilds. Many of the politicians were educated at Jesuit universities. Rupert Murdoch is a papal knight, the rest of the media as well controlled thru the CFR.
The Vatican has a long history of fascism.
Nonsense. The Vatican asked the Rothschilds to finance their money. Rothschild signed the Balfour declarartion, so one could reasonably conclude that they are Zionists, and that the Zionists are fascists. (an arpatheid, genocidal, supremacist, fascist bunch) It is a legitimate argument. I could also argue that AIPAC has full political control over the United States but I won't. I could also say that they control the media (all forms) exclusively, but I won't. I could also argue that the control the FED, but I won't. The power in my opinion rests with the money changers. Period. Follow the money. They are your "illuminati". It's not some religious bugaboo. Watch the money masters. It's to convenient to say that the bankers, with all their trillions, gave it over to the Vatican and a bunch of old men and pedophiles. The bankers financed the all the wars. They were responsible for the Great Depression and they consolidated. They are the power. They control the IMF/World bank through their useful idiots. I could go on. They are the top in my view. What a joke, but you will believe this until time immemorial I'm certain. |
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« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2007, 05:27:06 AM » |
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Nonsense. The Vatican asked the Rothschilds to finance their money. Rothschild signed the Balfour declarartion, so one could reasonably conclude that they are Zionists, and that the Zionists are fascists. (an arpatheid, genocidal, supremacist, fascist bunch) It is a legitimate argument. I could also argue that AIPAC has full political control over the United States but I won't. I could also say that they control the media (all forms) exclusively, but I won't. I could also argue that the control the FED, but I won't.
The power in my opinion rests with the money changers. Period. Follow the money. They are your "illuminati". It's not some religious bugaboo. Watch the money masters. It's to convenient to say that the bankers, with all their trillions, gave it over to the Vatican and a bunch of old men and pedophiles. The bankers financed the all the wars. They were responsible for the Great Depression and they consolidated. They are the power. They control the IMF/World bank through their useful idiots. I could go on. They are the top in my view.
What a joke, but you will believe this until time immemorial I'm certain. I know your answer is to just hate Jews, Christians and all religion as some control government, but it just does not work. You could remove all the zionist and the Vatican would still be the persecuting power as they have been for 1700 years, in fact this religion inquisition would serve the Vatican, that has been pagan since Babylon. Here's your problem, you say "religion booga boo" yet it is you who has the pagan religion of evolution that is the nwo religion, welcome to marxism. I bring that up because the bible is completely true cover to cover including creation, now that evolution has been removed what else is there? The bible tells of four endtime kingdoms, the last being the Holy Roman Empire, called the Beast of Revelation (13) and the antichrists. This is what was pointed out by the Glorious Reformation (1517). The RCC reply to this was a counter-reformation at the Council at Trent, and shortly after some false doctrine to counter the claims by the reformers. One counter reformation bible doctrine was that the antichrist would come in the future to the country of Israel to some Jews. Fortunately under the Holy Roman Empire they just happen to have a group of Babyloian Qabbalist calling themselves Jews, thus the Vatican created Zionism. Futurism is Zionism and Christian-ZionismFrancisco Ribera (1537-1591) was a Jesuit doctor of theology, born in Spain, who began writing a lengthy (500 page) commentary in 1585 on the book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, and published it about the year 1590. He died in 1591 at the age of fifty-four, so he was not able to expand on his work or write any other commentaries on Revelation. In order to remove the Catholic Church from consideration as the antichrist power, Ribera proposed that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse applied to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3 1/2 literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy. Then, he proposed, the antichrist, a single individual, would: -Persecute and blaspheme the saints of God. -Rebuild the temple in Jerusalem. -Abolish the Christian religion. -Deny Jesus Christ. -Be received by the Jews. -Pretend to be God. -Kill the two witnesses of God. -Conquer the world.  Rome, Rockefeller, the U.S. and Standard OilSecrets of the "Bank" of Rome |
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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2007, 11:08:07 AM » |
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I know your answer is to just hate Jews, Christians and all religion as some control government, but it just does not work. You could remove all the zionist and the Vatican would still be the persecuting power as they have been for 1700 years, in fact this religion inquisition would serve the Vatican, that has been pagan since Babylon. Here's your problem, you say "religion booga boo" yet it is you who has the pagan religion of evolution that is the nwo religion, welcome to marxism. I bring that up because the bible is completely true cover to cover including creation, now that evolution has been removed what else is there? The bible tells of four endtime kingdoms, the last being the Holy Roman Empire, called the Beast of Revelation (13) and the antichrists. This is what was pointed out by the Glorious Reformation (1517). The RCC reply to this was a counter-reformation at the Council at Trent, and shortly after some false doctrine to counter the claims by the reformers. One counter reformation bible doctrine was that the antichrist would come in the future to the country of Israel to some Jews. Fortunately under the Holy Roman Empire they just happen to have a group of Babyloian Qabbalist calling themselves Jews, thus the Vatican created Zionism. Rome, Rockefeller, the U.S. and Standard OilSecrets of the "Bank" of RomeOops, wrong again. I am a Christian, and evolution is a COMPLETE JOKE, A FRAUD for the hardened hearts of men who reject God and look for every way to rationalize their religion of evolution. I don't hate anything btw and I certainly don't appreciate the implication. I love Jews, I just don't support radical political ideologies like Zionism, fascism, communism, socialism, nor neo-conservatism.. If you can't see the difference than that is about you. You have been indoctrinated to believe that anyone who speaks ill will towards anything Jewish is anti-semitic and racist. That is your problem. Nobody is above the law, all must be exposed, all must be pulled out of the darkness and into the light. Like us, Israel has their share of crazies and they too deserve to be exposed. There are good Germans and there are bad Germans. Good Americans, bad Americans. Good Israelis, bad Israelis, should I only talk about the other two since I won't fear being labeled? American Zionists, (many are neocons) AIPAC, the ADL and yes even the pedophiles and criminals who have perverted the Catholic church deserve to be exposed. But to say the Vatican is the end all, be all, whatever. I'm sure they will have their demonic place in the end times, as the Bible states, but they are not at the top. Jesus showed his anger one time and it was directed at the money changers, and they are still up to their same old tricks today. Bankers financed wars, and the corporations and MIC benefited at our expense. We get to do their dirty work, pay for it with our money, BLOOD, sweat and tears, and they reap the profits and power. I don't believe that a bunch of old Jesuits had anything to do with 9-11, OKC, Waco, Iraq, Palestine, Zionism, the Bilderberger's, Vietnam, the FRB, the 16th amendment, Communism, the Holocaust, Skull and Bones, or any other horrible idea. I just don't see any strong connection. There are no Vatican/Jesuit names of those behind 9-11. We do know that Cheney, and many neocons had a hand in it though, it's easy enough to spot because they were careless and thank God for that. Their arrogance got the best of them and now they WILL be exposed. Btw, at risk of sounding too arrogant I will read, research, and consider what you provided at the end of your post. |
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« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2009, 04:23:15 PM » |
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Interviewer: "You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"
Albert Einstein: "Unquestionably. No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. How different, for instance, is the impression which we receive from an account of legendary heroes of antiquity like Theseus. Theseus and other heroes of his type lack the authentic vitality of Jesus."http://www.einsteinandreligion.com/einsteinonjesus.html
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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2009, 01:08:07 AM » |
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I personally think the belief that jesus never existed is borderline absurd. however the movie overall breaks down how religion can be abused as a tool for control of the mind and reality. As fas as the jesus thing, I think ring of power [immagine the intensity of zeitgeist for over 5 straight hours] present much more compelling arguments that satisfy my belief of jesus as a saviour, a king, and oone of the first "truthers" on the planet. Another article that presents other compelling information is: Jesus is an Anarchist: http://www.anti-state.com/redford/redford4.html(A free-market/libertarian anarchist, that is--otherwise what is called an anarcho-capitalist.) by James Redford The above title may seem like strong words, for surely that can't be correct? Jesus an anarchist? One must be joking, right? But you read correctly, and I will demonstrate exactly that. At this point you may be incredulous, but I assure you that I am quite serious. If you are a Christian and find the above title at all hard to believe then you of all people owe it to yourself to find out what the basis of this charge is, for if the above comes as news to you then you still have much to learn about Jesus and about the most vitally important struggle which has plagued mankind since the dawn of history: mankind's continuing struggle between freedom and slavery, between value producers and the violent parasitical elite, between peace and war, between truth and deception. This is the central struggle which defines mankind's history and, sadly, continues to do so. As Christians and as people in general, what we choose to believe and accept as the truth is equally as vitally important, for ultimately it is people's beliefs about the world that will shape and determine what outcomes transpire in the world. If the mass of people believe in political falsehoods and deceptions then mankind will continue to repeat the same gruesome mistakes, as it does presently, and the aforementioned struggle will continue to be no closer to a desirable resolution. Genuine change must first come by changing one's mind, and if what one had believed before was in error then one cannot expect good results to proceed forth from it. And all change starts with the individual. You can help change the world by simply changing your mind. All I ask of you is to believe in the truth--know the truth and the truth will make you free (John 8:32). It is the purpose of this document to demonstrate the above claim, and if you are a Christian then I submit that it should be your task to honestly consider what is presented here, for if the above claim comes as a surprise then I will show that what you thought you knew about Jesus was not the whole story: Jesus is far more radical than many would have you believe, and for good reason--it threatens the status quo. For the consequence of this truth becoming understood and accepted by even one-tenth of the population would be quite dramatic indeed: governments would topple like so many dominoes. For as the 16th century Frenchman Étienne de la Boétie observed in The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude ( http://www.blancmange.net/ tmh/articles/laboetie.html), all governments ultimately rest on the consent of the governed, even totalitarian dictatorships. Now this "consent" does not have to be in the form of active promotion and support of the State, it could simply be in the form of hopeless resignation, such as accepting the canard "nothing's as sure as death and taxes." All governments can only exist because the majority--in one form or another--accept them as at least being inevitable. They believe in the deception that even though government may be evil that it is nevertheless a necessary evil, and therefore cannot conceive of a better alternative. But if such were true then Jesus Christ's whole message is a fallacy. But such is not the truth, there is an alternative: liberty. And I will show that Jesus has called us to liberty, and that liberty and Christ's message are incompatible with government. Thank you for citing one of my articles, Sane. Below is the most recent version of this article: James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist," Social Science Research Network (SSRN), October 17, 2009 (originally published December 19, 2001) http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://theophysics.110mb.com/anarchist-jesus.pdfFor those interested in how the known laws of physics prove the existence of God (and that as a triune being) and the physical mechanism of how Jesus Christ could have performed the miracles recorded in the New Testament, see the below resources: "God Proven to Exist According to Mainline Physics," James Redford, May 8, 2009 http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=104607Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist http://theophysics.110mb.com , http://theophysics.chimehost.net |
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