homosexuality promotion in the MSM and the right to marry

[thnkfstpal]

I know the promotion of homosexuality in the MSM is to destroy the family unit and condition us for all types of sexual immorality that the elite engage in (it's one of their sick little games they like to play on the population). However I find it hard to explain to Sheople the way this works, SANE or BIGGS or DJ or ANYONE could you help me clarify my thoughts on this subject? Pretty please?

[Geolibertarian]

I'll say it again: the State has no more rightful business licensing marriages (heterosexual or otherwise) than it does licensing friendships.

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http://www.newswithviews.com/Ohara/debbie5.htm

SEPARATION OF MARRIAGE AND STATE
 

By Debbie O'Hara
August 24, 2003
NewsWithViews.com

Christians are up in arms about the onslaught of anti-family bills that the homosexual activists have been pushing around the country, many of which have passed. Here in California, our governor, in his desperation to try and hang onto his job at any cost says he intends to sign a gay "marriage" bill even though it has more hurdles to pass before reaching his desk. As usual everyone is blaming the atheists and the liberals for trying to destroy God's institution of marriage, but who really deserves the blame? Who gave government the right to interfere with marriage in the first place?

There is now a blur between the supposed "liberal" Democrats, who many people think are godless, and the so-called "conservative" Republicans, where most people who consider themselves Christians reside. They both believe that government is the answer to every problem. The Democrats are probably more honest because at least they admit that they think government is the answer to all of society's problems while the Republicans say they believe in "smaller government" and "individual responsibility" while voting for more socialist government intervention programs, including those regarding marriage.

Right now Christians are championing a federal amendment that's floating around Capitol Hill that says we must keep marriage between one man and one woman. Isn't that what got us into trouble in the first place, getting government involved in marriage? If we allow government to define marriage even if they define it as between one man and one woman, what is to keep them from changing its definition later on to something else? There is no Constitutional or biblical foundation for government to define or regulate marriage. Why did we hand God's institution of marriage over to government in the first place? We even handed it over on a silver platter when Christians decided that being married in the sight of God wasn't good enough; we wanted to get permission from the government via a state license! God's Holy State of Matrimony then became a civil union effectively regulated and controlled by the State. If we continue to allow the state to control marriage, we will see polygamy, two men and a woman, three women and a man, a man and his dog, etc. and probably worse being defined as marriage. And we Christians will be to blame!

Carrying government control of marriage to its logical conclusion, they would also control any product of that marriage, like the children. Should it surprise us that the State is defining what proper parenting is? We get angry and wonder what makes them think that they have the right to push the homosexual agenda and other perversions on our children in the government schools, but why wouldn't they have that right? They control what they permit us to do through the licensing process.

[Continued...]

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http://www.mises.org/story/2209
http://www.lewrockwell.com/gregory/gregory68.html

[redpill]

This divisive issue contributes to their agenda;

To Divide and Conquer

[creat3d]

I know the promotion of homosexuality in the MSM is to destroy the family unit and condition us for all types of sexual immorality that the elite engage in (it's one of their sick little games they like to play on the population). However I find it hard to explain to Sheople the way this works, SANE or BIGGS or DJ or ANYONE could you help me clarify my thoughts on this subject? Pretty please?

Yes, homosexuality is immoral... and abortion is for HEARTLESS BABY KILLERS!

Go get some more kool-aid

[Geolibertarian]

This divisive issue contributes to their agenda;

To Divide and Conquer

Exactly! That's why I always shout expletives at my TV screen whenever I hear this brought up during televised debates.

"Pay no attention to that expanding police state behind the curtain!"

[thnkfstpal]

It may be divisive, but I'm tired of homosexuality being PROMOTED and CONDONED on my television screen and in society in general. I mean I work with homosexuals and what not and I'm not mean to them or anything. I just know that homosexuality is a PRODUCT of the New World Order and not a "born with" dissorder or whatever you want to call it, it's a choice. PERIOD.

[creat3d]

It may be divisive, but I'm tired of homosexuality being PROMOTED and CONDONED on my television screen and in society in general. I mean I work with homosexuals and what not and I'm not mean to them or anything. I just know that homosexuality is a PRODUCT of the New World Order and not a "born with" dissorder or whatever you want to call it, it's a choice. PERIOD.

A product of the New World Order? You think there were no homosexuals before the Illuminati even existed?

[roguewave]

This would be hilarious if it was biting satire, but sadly this seems to be how a lot of Americans think.

 

The only people that think it's a choice are the ones who can picture themselves potentially choosing to suck dick.

"Wow, the TV sure makes homosexuality enticing, I can barely contain myself!


THIS MUST BE STOPPED."

Focus your hostility on the PTB, not people who have different feelings and attractions than you do.

[creat3d]

The only people that think it's a choice are the ones who can picture themselves potentially choosing to suck dick.

"Wow, the TV sure makes homosexuality enticing, I can barely contain myself!


THIS MUST BE STOPPED."

Makes you wonder about the anti-gay positions of the church... maybe talking all day long about such horrible "sins" and "blasphemy" makes you curious about it? That might explain a lot...

[muggl3z]

Who gives a crap? Don't we have slightly more important things to worry about? Like our government stealing children and crushing their testicles?

[thrashbassist]

I just know that homosexuality is a PRODUCT of the New World Order and not a "born with" dissorder or whatever you want to call it, it's a choice. PERIOD.

And how the hell would you know?

[NWOSCUM]

Uh, I think its prolly DNA that makes you gay, NOT a concious choice.

[hyperqube]

The only people that think it's a choice are the ones who can picture themselves potentially choosing to suck dick.

that's absolutely right, if a person claims it's a choice then i would agree that the possibility exists that they could choose to, as you say, suck dick.

now if they claim that no way in hell would they do such a thing, then how is it a choice?

[Geolibertarian]

It may be divisive, but I'm tired of homosexuality being PROMOTED and CONDONED on my television screen and in society in general. I mean I work with homosexuals and what not and I'm not mean to them or anything. I just know that homosexuality is a PRODUCT of the New World Order and not a "born with" dissorder or whatever you want to call it, it's a choice. PERIOD.

 

First of all, the evidence of homosexuality being purely a "choice" (as opposed to being determined in large part by biological factors) is inconclusive at best:

• http://www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html#whatcauses
• http://www.salon.com/env/mind_reader/2008/09/12/gay_neurology/

Second, torture is "promoted and condoned" on your television screen as well, yet it wouldn't be if people like yourself would simply stop watching it! Shows don't stay on the air long unless they get good ratings; and shows don't get good ratings unless people watch them. Hello? Logic 101 calling? If you're watching this crap, then you're fueling the very fire you profess to oppose.

Third, if there's one thing people like Mark Foley, Larry Craig and Ted Haggard have demonstrated all-too-clearly, it's that those who obsess over this issue have a tendency to "protest too much."

Fourth, and perhaps most importantly, who friggin cares? Criminal corporate fascists have hijacked control of our financial system and are using that control to rob us blind; countless people are losing their jobs and/or homes; we're on the verge of the worst economic depression in U.S. history; we're one false flag attack away from all-out martial law being declared (goodbye America, hello Nazi Germany!); our food and water supplies are being poisoned; our "election" system is completely and utterly rigged in favor of the very parasitic elites who created all these problems in the first place -- yet countless people on the so-called "Right" are still waxing indignant about the whole "gay" issue. 

I think George Carlin said it best when asked about this: "More pus*y for me!"

[Vipercat]

It's not just the mainstream media, but the taxpayer supported state and federal schools and colleges. They jump up and down saying God is bad and religion is bad and straight people are bad, and every month they have "Pride" "GLBT Gay Lesbian Bi Teens" "Tolerance" and other events and names to literally shove "no pun intended" homosexuality and Satan worship down the throats of young children, teens, and college students, they have posters and banners every where, but if someone dares promotes being heterosexual or Christian they are labeled "hate groups" expelled from school, threatened and even arrested and disappeared. These groups all promote "tolerance" but only accept and allow their own homosexual anti God agenda, and are the most intolerant of state supported fascist groups. This being said I have nothing against any religion, any type of sexuality, or views, what I have a problem with is when the state and federal tax dollars support it, and these groups and people do not tolerate other views.

[agentbluescreen]

Jeheezus bullcrap, get a life and grow up for it!

Homosexuals do not cause abortions, heterosexuals do!

However I will allow that arrogant, irresponsible, greedy, destructive, disease ridden and selfish insatiably promiscuous bisexuals are the scourge of the nation and should all be imprisoned and devoutly oppressed.

  infidelity is a crime worse than theft, often as bad as murder!

[Vipercat]

I will agree that homosexuals cannot cause abortions, for obvious reasons. That said, heterosexual Christians cannot cause abortions either "if they actually believe and follow their own teachings" if someone has a abortion then they are not really Christian, or Islam, or most other religions for that matter. I don't pass judgment on others, I am not God, but tolerance is also a two way street.

[Monkeypox]

I know the promotion of homosexuality in the MSM is to destroy the family unit and condition us for all types of sexual immorality that the elite engage in (it's one of their sick little games they like to play on the population). However I find it hard to explain to Sheople the way this works, SANE or BIGGS or DJ or ANYONE could you help me clarify my thoughts on this subject? Pretty please?

I bet you have some deeply-repressed "urges", don't you?

 

[agentbluescreen]

Infidelity, stealing and lying aside the sin of coveting (lusting after someone elses collateral or partner) is a sin we should be more concerned about in the former than the latter case!

I have a very very low tolerance for sex crimes but infinite opposition to love crimes!

[Rock]

I am going to move this thread for a few reasons.

Who cares what Christians think?  Even though I am one does not mean we should impose our beliefs on others. No more so then the nutty ZeitGeist trolls want us to believe in utopia.

This is a wedge issue!

If you want to be homo that is between you and god.The government has no right to make laws to the contrary.  If you want to be Homo so be it.

Leave them alone.



Rock

[roguewave]

Also "if you are" not just if you "want."

[Celebrome]

I know the promotion of homosexuality in the MSM is to destroy the family unit and condition us for all types of sexual immorality that the elite engage in (it's one of their sick little games they like to play on the population). However I find it hard to explain to Sheople the way this works, SANE or BIGGS or DJ or ANYONE could you help me clarify my thoughts on this subject? Pretty please?

From what age you from?
are you mentaly chalenge?
im not homosexual but one of the brother of mi girl friend is gay and guess what?
he is just like everyone else.
doesnt mean that because your an homosexual that your a degenerate and immoral.
I will probably shock you but im from Canada Quebec and guess what ?  homosexual have the right to get married if they want and i think that it is a really really  great idea.
WHY?
because you see before gay couple couldnt get married so they would live together all there life and when one of them would die the other wouldnt get anything. The state would take most stuff usualy or give it to the family if they were still alive ( mother, father, sister, brother. ) So since they can get married they have the same right a  couple male and female have. Tell me why is it bad ?
And are you gona tell me that someone who doesnt have the same hormone has the majority should be force to love the opposite sex even if is gene tell him differently ? ( all gay arent gay because of there hormone there are different reason for homosexualty ) Its Like before when people who were left handed would be beaten by the nun and religious people who took care of our school to force left handed people to be right handed.Doesnt make any sense, and i do not believe that it is the elite playing game on us. Its like women right its a good thing why ? BECAUSE HUMAN RIGHT AND THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT ALL HUMAN ARE EQUAL. EQUAL!!!! Why should they be restricted from getting married if they are equal ?

YOu could have at least bring up the probleme that cloth store now sell G-string to 8and 9 years old girl and that most television show for kids make them more superficiel and have sex whit everyone just to be cool and tell the girl that a good guy is a guy that has as nice car or is rich and that they tell young boys that a good girl is a girl that does everything you see in porn movie. No you prefered to talk about homosexual and say that it isnt right.

[agentbluescreen]

I will agree that homosexuals cannot cause abortions, for obvious reasons. That said, heterosexual Christians cannot cause abortions either "if they actually believe and follow their own teachings" if someone has a abortion then they are not really Christian, or Islam, or most other religions for that matter. I don't pass judgment on others, I am not God, but tolerance is also a two way street.

So it's "kristian" to tolerate dehumanizing and oppressing other people with different beliefs and maliciously, selfishly and hatefully crippling and denying their rights to form strong committed, responsible relationships as long as they can breed little meat puppets of their own together?

And it's only a valid relationship as long as any other kind of any form of Satan in a robe or collar gets paid for a heterosexual contract ritual?

Who 'married' Adam and Eve?

And just who the hell did Cain hop into the sack with?

The only true Christian Sacrament is Charity, and it only takes 2 people anywhere in the temple that NEVER CLOSES  -FYI- all the rest of the phony ones are corporate party-rituals

[creat3d]

From what age you from?
are you mentaly chalenge?
im not homosexual but one of the brother of mi girl friend is gay and guess what?
he is just like everyone else.
doesnt mean that because your an homosexual that your a degenerate and immoral.
I will probably shock you but im from Canada Quebec and guess what ?  homosexual have the right to get married if they want and i think that it is a really really  great idea.
WHY?
because you see before gay couple couldnt get married so they would live together all there life and when one of them would die the other wouldnt get anything. The state would take most stuff usualy or give it to the family if they were still alive ( mother, father, sister, brother. ) So since they can get married they have the same right a  couple male and female have. Tell me why is it bad ?
And are you gona tell me that someone who doesnt have the same hormone has the majority should be force to love the opposite sex even if is gene tell him differently ? ( all gay arent gay because of there hormone there are different reason for homosexualty ) Its Like before when people who were left handed would be beaten by the nun and religious people who took care of our school to force left handed people to be right handed.Doesnt make any sense, and i do not believe that it is the elite playing game on us. Its like women right its a good thing why ? BECAUSE HUMAN RIGHT AND THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT ALL HUMAN ARE EQUAL. EQUAL!!!! Why should they be restricted from getting married if they are equal ?

YOu could have at least bring up the probleme that cloth store now sell G-string to 8and 9 years old girl and that most television show for kids make them more superficiel and have sex whit everyone just to be cool and tell the girl that a good guy is a guy that has as nice car or is rich and that they tell young boys that a good girl is a girl that does everything you see in porn movie. No you prefered to talk about homosexual and say that it isnt right.

Hello fellow québécois!

I never could understand the debate either...

"But gay people will take marriage away from us!!" Uh what? How does that make sense?

[agentbluescreen]

and just what business is it of you (or your greedy, parasitic filthy Satanic taxing, coveting and usuring banksters) whether other people have 5 wives or 3 husbands? What the hell business is it of yours?

If you are so terrorized and enslaved, stay in your ghetto, and keep your spawn trapped in there, with you!

And what the hell business is it of your hateful Satan you've obviously been brainwashed into worshipping in a conservative-fascist cathedral of greed that you can get locked out of, what other people do in the privacy of their own bed chambers?

[agentbluescreen]

note correction - sorry!
So it's "Kristian" to tolerate dehumanizing and oppressing other people with different beliefs and maliciously, selfishly and hatefully crippling and denying their rights to form strong committed, responsible relationships as strongly and faithfully as yours long as they but only if they can breed little meat puppets of their own together?

My friend you gave been deceived by the corrupt noble Tory Corporate Episcopal antiChrists (Satanic gnostic "ministry of socialisms") into believing that ALL LOVE ITSELF, our Father, Souls and Heaven, is some greedy old Hell owning despotic, feudalistic bastard with a ritzy noble castle guarded by a Top Biatch security guard named Satan who does His bidding! A greedy selfish tyrant who lives "over there" in a deluxe mystery cloud named heaven, and is only to be found in a 'noble sacred' Templar Cathedral of selfish hateful greed's locked 'tabernacle', who can only be heard from or begged to through a Satanic Proselytizer who uses tabloid hate propaganda to tell you just who "God wants you to hate" for Him and his bankster buddies this and every week!

Desolation is separating mankind from God (ALL LOVE ITSELF) and closing mankind from worship (the abomination) is impossible for true Christian's temple, unlike an old Jewish/Hebrew blood-sacrifice for hire slaughterhouse! OUR 'temples' CAN NEVER BE CLOSED for our temple is everywhere and anywhere two or more meet in Christ's Spirit of Loving Charity at ANY TIME OR ANY PLACE!

Such is the "Abomination of Desolation" that describes the excommunicated Saul/Paul and Luke's  Satanic Heretical 3-God corporatist antiChristianism which St John the Divine fought to his last days and gave us Christ's own Revalatonary Warnings about on Patmos and so distinctly and clearly warned all true agnostic Christians to beware of corporate human evil!

Nobody built ANYTHING UPON A ROCK in 1 BC without explosives! It would just wash away and slide off! The saying meant in the Cathedrals of mens brave loving souls, everywhere and anywhere 2 or more met in the true loving spirit of the Son of ALL LOVE ITSELF forever!

[Amd304912]

let them do what they will.

humility has no face race or genitalia, its like humble pie, everyone gets some..

if it does happen, women cant call us sexist 4 watching 2 girls go at it. the welfare state benefits from less people cheating the system as "single parents" and most importantly there is a catcher so the pitcher would know what child support encompasses in that 50-50.

[agentbluescreen]

Satan is the greedy devils in the hearts of mens hateful corporate socialist connivings  - ALL LOVE ITSELF is the parent of the precious flames that are mens eternal souls!

There is no deity but God - that was why and how Ciaphus so burdened and tempted our Lord

[thnkfstpal]

ok, ok...I'll get back to fighting the new world order, NEVERMIND.

sorry folks.......