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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2007, 04:01:22 PM » |
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Alex has had Jordan Maxwell on in the past. I like Maxwell, but how much of what he says can be proven? For example, he says in schools they call the students "pupils" because its all to do with the eye of Ra. Thats fine, its believable, but how provable is it? I respect Alex Jones for broadcasting shows for all this time and never getting into the kind of stuff that cannot be 100% proven. Maybe Maxwell is right about all these similar connotations with words and origins of words etc but the reality is he could just be making it all up - you do realize that I hope? I am not saying he does make it all up I am saying how do we know for sure? With Alex Jones we always do know for sure, he cites the newspaper he has read the story in and so on. If you like Maxwell, you'll like Michael Tsarion - now I wouldn't mind if Alex had Tsarion on, such a humble guy and always gives all the people he has got his research from (like Maxwell) credit, unlike other people who just steal the research and call it their own. Go on Google Video (I know! Google Video not YouTube) and search for "tsarion granada" and you'll find a 3.5 hour long talk of his - thats a great talk he gave about so many thought provoking things. Or I could just put the link here, lol.... 2012 - The Future of Mankindhttp://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822&q=tsarion+granada&total=12&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 05:33:38 PM » |
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Alex has had Jordan Maxwell on in the past.
I like Maxwell, but how much of what he says can be proven? For example, he says in schools they call the students "pupils" because its all to do with the eye of Ra. Thats fine, its believable, but how provable is it? I respect Alex Jones for broadcasting shows for all this time and never getting into the kind of stuff that cannot be 100% proven.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&q=jordan+maxwell&total=523&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2In the above video Jordan Maxwell makes a number of baseless and false claims. He says that on each person's birth certificate the Mother's signature says "Informant." Guess what? Mine says "Mother's Signature." Jordan Maxwell, in my book, has no credibility due to his outrageous claims.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 09:10:39 PM » |
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"has no credibility due to his outrageous claims." I think that's a pretty outrageous claim, lol. That man has been researching this stuff for 40-50 years, and like he says on one of his videos, it would be impossible for him to explain everything in a few hours. I like Jordan. He woke me up. I would almost go as far as to say he is a genius...almost 
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 10:26:05 AM » |
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"has no credibility due to his outrageous claims."
I think that's a pretty outrageous claim, lol.
Not really because he puts a video on the internet that is total BS
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 10:36:48 AM » |
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Alex has had Jordan Maxwell on in the past.
I like Maxwell, but how much of what he says can be proven? For example, he says in schools they call the students "pupils" because its all to do with the eye of Ra. Thats fine, its believable, but how provable is it? I respect Alex Jones for broadcasting shows for all this time and never getting into the kind of stuff that cannot be 100% proven.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&q=jordan+maxwell&total=523&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2In the above video Jordan Maxwell makes a number of baseless and false claims. He says that on each person's birth certificate the Mother's signature says "Informant." Guess what? Mine says "Mother's Signature." Jordan Maxwell, in my book, has no credibility due to his outrageous claims. thats one thing, are you disregarding Jordon Maxwell based on that one thing?
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 10:48:10 AM » |
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Alex has had Jordan Maxwell on in the past.
I like Maxwell, but how much of what he says can be proven? For example, he says in schools they call the students "pupils" because its all to do with the eye of Ra. Thats fine, its believable, but how provable is it? I respect Alex Jones for broadcasting shows for all this time and never getting into the kind of stuff that cannot be 100% proven.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&q=jordan+maxwell&total=523&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2In the above video Jordan Maxwell makes a number of baseless and false claims. He says that on each person's birth certificate the Mother's signature says "Informant." Guess what? Mine says "Mother's Signature." Jordan Maxwell, in my book, has no credibility due to his outrageous claims. thats one thing, are you disregarding Jordon Maxwell based on that one thing? For him to say things that are just wrong makes me seriously question him. I really don't give much credence to conspiracy researchers who specialize in "symbolism" because most of the time they just make stuff UP! Both Jordan Maxwell and David Icke have made outrageous claims regarding the meaning of words without any respect for etymology. Jordan Maxwell picks and chooses words from distinctly different linguistic families perverts and contorts them to support ridiculous claims. He says that Jesus is the "Son" of God thus he is the "Sun" and that Christians transitively worship the sun. So yes I do believe that Jordan Maxwell has no credibility.
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 10:57:45 AM » |
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well, id be very interested to see you set the record straight? maybe you could provide some links?
personally, i dont agree with everything they say, as alot of it as you pointed out, is speculation. but i do find their work interesting and informative, and have discovered many things from them that i have gone on to research more.
you seem to profess a knowledge of etymology and symbolism, have you written any articles on the subjects? i'll read them if you post links.
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2007, 12:23:22 PM » |
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Alex has had Jordan Maxwell on in the past.
I like Maxwell, but how much of what he says can be proven? For example, he says in schools they call the students "pupils" because its all to do with the eye of Ra. Thats fine, its believable, but how provable is it? I respect Alex Jones for broadcasting shows for all this time and never getting into the kind of stuff that cannot be 100% proven.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&q=jordan+maxwell&total=523&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2In the above video Jordan Maxwell makes a number of baseless and false claims. He says that on each person's birth certificate the Mother's signature says "Informant." Guess what? Mine says "Mother's Signature." Jordan Maxwell, in my book, has no credibility due to his outrageous claims. You do NOT have your birth certificate. You have a fancied up copy of your birth certificate. What is on the original remains behind the curtain to us. Jordan is very seldom wrong about what he says. But who really knows? Does Jordan?
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2007, 12:24:29 PM » |
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well, id be very interested to see you set the record straight? maybe you could provide some links?
personally, i dont agree with everything they say, as alot of it as you pointed out, is speculation. but i do find their work interesting and informative, and have discovered many things from them that i have gone on to research more.
you seem to profess a knowledge of etymology and symbolism, have you written any articles on the subjects? i'll read them if you post links.
Yes, I, like Jordan Maxwell, am not an etymologist. However I am confident in my knowledge of the relationship between the words "sun" and "son" in Biblical terms. The comparison of "Sun" with "Son" only works in English and German, not Latin or Hebrew/Aramaic. The latter two languages being what the Jews and Jesus actually spoke! Hebrew: son is "ben," sun is "shemesh." No similarity. In Hebrew "Son of God" is Benei Elohim, still no similarity to "shemesh." In the Aramaic original of Daniel 3:25, the phrase “the Son of God" is bar-elahin. Sun in Aramaic is also shemesh. The Latin Vulgate of Jerome (ca. 400 A.D.) was the dominant Bible translation in all of Western Europe throughout the Middle Ages. In it the term "Son of God" is “filio Dei” where as sun is "solus." Once again absolutly no comparison. In the Greek Septuagint "Son of God" is "Uioi Tou Theou" and in ancient Greek "sun" is helios and "son" is huios. Still two distinctly differnt words. Jordan Maxwell has made a career out of mismatching words picking and choosing their origins and denying etymology. Moreover he makes broad contentions that the Jews worship the sun. Okay then why do the Jews, monotheists, disavow this form of Egyptian idolatry (Deut. 4:19; 17:3; comp. 2 Kings 23:11; Jer. 19:13) Once again I appeal to reason and common sense in saying that Jordan Maxwell has no credibility.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 12:26:25 PM » |
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Alex has had Jordan Maxwell on in the past.
I like Maxwell, but how much of what he says can be proven? For example, he says in schools they call the students "pupils" because its all to do with the eye of Ra. Thats fine, its believable, but how provable is it? I respect Alex Jones for broadcasting shows for all this time and never getting into the kind of stuff that cannot be 100% proven.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&q=jordan+maxwell&total=523&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2In the above video Jordan Maxwell makes a number of baseless and false claims. He says that on each person's birth certificate the Mother's signature says "Informant." Guess what? Mine says "Mother's Signature." Jordan Maxwell, in my book, has no credibility due to his outrageous claims. You do NOT have your birth certificate. You have a fancied up copy of your birth certificate. What is on the original remains behind the curtain to us. Jordan is very seldom wrong about what he says. But who really knows? Does Jordan? By Jordan's' logic all perents have to sin their child's birth certificate as "Informant" etc, not too many perants I know have ever encountered this.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 12:42:15 PM » |
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I have not personally heard Maxwell talk about "informant" on birth certificates. I DO know, from Maxwell and other sources, that the birth certificate is actually a bill of lading for delivering merchandise to the state. It is also instructive to note that birthing hospitals are listed as "points of entry" and that the delivery room may be looked at as a type of loading dock.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2007, 12:56:58 PM » |
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From the video i previously posted Jordan Maxwell: "The word bench in Latin is a bank look it up in a Latin dictionary" Sorry pal but bank in Latin is argentaria and bench,as in a judge's, is iudices
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2007, 01:16:24 PM » |
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Main Entry: bench Pronunciation: 'bench Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old English benc; akin to Old High German bank bench
After looking at several online English/Latin dictionaries, I came up with this. There is no counterpart in Latin and your words do not show up either. Yet I will take your word for it. It is my opinion that Maxwell misspoke but I am of the opinion that he was referring to the word's etymology. When I trace this word back further, I will post my results.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2007, 01:33:40 PM » |
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From the video i previously posted Jordan Maxwell: "The word bench in Latin is a bank look it up in a Latin dictionary" Sorry pal but bank in Latin is argentaria and bench,as in a judge's, is iudices
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8394844811105390386&q=jordan+maxwell&total=543&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0Jordan Maxwell: ""the word system comes from a Latin word. the Latins in Rome the ancient romans called their sewer the system, and this is where we get our word today, the system." Actually our word "system" comes from the Greek word "systema" and means an assemblage of objects united by some form of regular interaction or interdependence
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2007, 02:09:04 PM » |
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From the video i previously posted Jordan Maxwell: "The word bench in Latin is a bank look it up in a Latin dictionary" Sorry pal but bank in Latin is argentaria and bench,as in a judge's, is iudices
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8394844811105390386&q=jordan+maxwell&total=543&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0Jordan Maxwell: ""the word system comes from a Latin word. the Latins in Rome the ancient romans called their sewer the system, and this is where we get our word today, the system." Actually our word "system" comes from the Greek word "systema" and means an assemblage of objects united by some form of regular interaction or interdependence From the same video, Jordan proposes that sex worshiping Jewish scientist created the Big Bang theory, Actually the modern Big Bang theory was first proposed by a Belgian Catholic Priest named Georges Lemaître. But of course catholic priest, because they wear black clothing, are the priest of the Nazi-Saturn cult religion. Also in that video Jordan insinuates that Hollywood is called Hollywood as a reference to the druid practice of making wades out of holly. In reality it is name Hollywood because Toyon, California Holly, grows there. there are numerous other examples jsut watch one of his videos
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2007, 02:17:45 PM » |
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Yea I remember the Big Bang remark. He definitely was mistaken there. If you know of more inconsistencies then please post them. I am all ears.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2007, 03:58:17 PM » |
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&q=jordan+maxwell&total=523&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
In the above video Jordan Maxwell makes a number of baseless and false claims. He says that on each person's birth certificate the Mother's signature says "Informant." Guess what? Mine says "Mother's Signature." Jordan Maxwell, in my book, has no credibility due to his outrageous claims. Hey! You are looking at the wrong birth certificate. You need the long form birth certificate that DOES IN FACT SAY INFORMANT under the mothers name. You need to do research before you say someone is a hack based on absolutely nothing. How do I know what I'm talking about? Because I have my long form b.c.
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2007, 05:11:47 PM » |
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I have taken much from Maxwell...he has his place. But yes, if he is stating something about your birth certificate and what it really means he should be providing more substance with what it really means.
Strategies to use this information to be able to disengage from the Matrix, yet still function within it when you need to. Solution-Think is not something Maxwell presents with his information. And if Maxwell knows this information and has been doing this kind of thing for forty years, then he should have made the time to further educate on the practical nature of using this information for your benefit in gaining your own LEGAL FREEDOM from the empire. How can I disengage from the Beast system that my birth certificate places me in? That is the real question to be asked and answered. And an answer that is legally binding, if there is one.
How does one get their long form birth certificate? Then, how do I get my named change from a corporate subsidiary all capitals name to one that is for a natural person with capital first letters and the rest small letters? And how do I use this in all transactions with banks and courts? It would not take much video time for Maxwell to throw out resources and legal methods to begin to actually use the information.
This is key to all conspiracy information...how do we or can we use it...
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2007, 10:37:46 PM » |
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Alex has had Jordan Maxwell on in the past.
I like Maxwell, but how much of what he says can be proven? For example, he says in schools they call the students "pupils" because its all to do with the eye of Ra. Thats fine, its believable, but how provable is it? I respect Alex Jones for broadcasting shows for all this time and never getting into the kind of stuff that cannot be 100% proven.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&q=jordan+maxwell&total=523&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2In the above video Jordan Maxwell makes a number of baseless and false claims. He says that on each person's birth certificate the Mother's signature says "Informant." Guess what? Mine says "Mother's Signature." Jordan Maxwell, in my book, has no credibility due to his outrageous claims. Ive looked at numerous birth certificates and some say informant and some dont. It probably has to do with what year you were born.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2007, 04:56:11 PM » |
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Alex, please bring back Jordan Maxwell. Your show could only benefit from more of Jordans knowledge. I see you even use alot of his stuff on your show. Don't be a brat, bring back the Master.
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2007, 02:49:19 AM » |
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Jordon Maxwell is a man of a certain age, it is likely that the birth certificate style has been modernised in recent years. When he first began researching, forms and certificates were in a traditional style and language that had been used for decades but they may have been brought up to date now. In Britain there has been a move towards less antiquated language - more plain english, in official documents. You need to look at older certificates. And does he mean in Britain or the USA?
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2007, 10:33:26 PM » |
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Maxwell is quite a scholar and does know a lot about reality -maybe too old and slow for AJ's show LIVE anymore, no prob..
I wouldnt even try to discredit or dismiss what he hints at with symbology or "legal ownership" of people like cattle, or that we are deceived to it.
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