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« on: October 13, 2008, 11:49:04 AM »

Basis For the Affidavit

Before the corporations took control of this nation almost all law actions were initiated by the affidavit; the claim, counter claims, and other actions where law was to intercede and truth brought forth. When we, as men, write an affidavit, we are swearing that the contents is truth to the best of our knowledge and belief. This is quite different than an affidavit composed by a corporation fiction, whose life is controlled by corporate lies. We know that the corporate government is rotten to the core, from top to bottom, and that truth is nigh impossible to find at any level of that dung heap. In "legal" terms, a fiction acts through a series of echelons up to the uppermost one, which would be the "president, Congress, and justice systems," overshadowed and controlled by would be world dictators, who themselves are corporations, mostly foreign. Within fictions order cannot be maintained, as every aspect, every being, and every junction are corporate entities themselves, and all are fighting to cleave out their niche in this godless society, and it can only be held together by lies on top of lies, and in Bill Clinton we have seen a pro. If the Americans should awaken in unison and see what is happening to them there wouldn't be a lamp post or isolated tree in this nation where a traitor would not be hanging. It is a system that is self perpetuating, and it is for this reason that we can never be expected to see the truth, however hard we look for it. This is 360 degrees opposite of the government established under the Constitution, and is something of which the founding fathers warned us should we ever drop our vigilance, which we have done. This affidavit is a last ditch effort to regain what is ours without the final option, and that is total war, as far as I can see, and I think I have tried everything else for the past twenty years.


The Corporation

What is a corporation? From Encyclopedia Britannica 2000, corporations as Legal Fictions

What is legal fiction? A rule assuming as true something that is clearly false.

A fiction is often used to get around the provisions of constitutions and legal codes that legislators are hesitant to change or encumber with specific limitations. Thus, when a legislature has no legal power to sit beyond a certain midnight but has five hours more or work to do, it is easier to turn back the official clock from time to time than it is to change the law or constitution.

In ancient Rome, where every family needed a male heir the lack of one was overcome through the legal fiction of adoption. In England, when courts handling civil cases were full the court of Queen's (or King's) Bench, a criminal court, could take some of the load by pretending that the defendant in a simple civil suit had been arrested and was in custody.

Almost any legal fiction can be stated in terms of fact. Thus, the fiction that a corporation is, for many purposes, a person separate from its members is equivalent to saying that, for those purposes, the law deals with the group as a unit, disregarding for the moment the group's individual members as such.

Again, when we make an affidavit it is sworn to be true before God, and when any information is contained on the affidavit, such as laws, addresses, assumptions, or anything else not possible to verify by the writer, it nullifies the affidavit, and if an attorney wishes he can make the writer rue the day he made it. For this reason we keep the affidavit simple and to the point, leaving nothing to chance. I am again sending an example of an affidavit, but they may vary a degree according to its substance and purpose.


Affidavit of Denial of Corporate Existence

I, Robert Michael Earnest, a living, breathing man, hereby declare

that the following facts are true and correct to the best of my

knowledge and belief:


I deny that the following corporations exist: The United States,

The State of Louisiana, the Parish of Acadia, The Town of Church

Point, the Church Point Police Department, Officer John Wilson,

all bar associations, all other persons acting in the name of,

or are connected anyway to any other corporation(s), and Robert

Michael Earnest, 201 Linear Street, Lafayette, Louisiana 70503.


If any man or woman desires to answer this affidavit it must be

in the form of affidavit, using Christian name, and be notarized,

and sent by mail to the notary named below, address provided,

within five days. [sign, do not type, full name here]


On May 25, 2000 a.d. a man by the name of Robert Michael Earnest

appeared before me, a notary, and attested to the truth of this

affidavit with his signature, as verified hereon.

Notary Seal

signature of notary (below seal)


As noted on the Louisiana Revised Statute, all; repeat, all entering a court for trial will be considered a corporation unless this affidavit is filed within the court record being tried.

Yesterday we had a man who has been fighting this system for over twenty years, and has spent seven years in prison for his troubles, went into court (traffic) and offered his affidavit to the judge, who refused it (because it had not been stamped and filed within the court), and he argued with the judge. It is now 23 hours and 45 minutes he has been in jail for contempt of court and will be out in another 15 minutes. We have to do it right or it doesn't work. Add nothing, forget nothing, and file it with the charges or other paper work covering the case, whatever it is.

We will take and check each and every affidavit until our work load gets too great (which shouldn't be too far away) if they are faxed to us or sent email, in an attempt to check for weaknesses or errors. Of course, because of the crooked system we are under we cannot nor do not guarantee anything, and that is another reason one should get his state laws which are commensurate with those listed. I would like to win them all.

Today I got my original affidavit of denial of corp existance back from the county I recorded it in on Jan 12th with a post it note stuck to it.

We are sending this back to you, as it should have been filed in hennepin county not carver, also no legal description and no drafted by on document. This is a requirement. please file in correct county.



Affidavit


Denial of Corporation Existence

COMES NOW, John-Q; Public, the affiant, who is of lawful age and sound mind, who is a competent witness and is telling the truth, voluntarily relating the following first hand knowledge of the facts and stating that these facts are true and represent the best of my knowledge.



I hereby deny that the following corporations exist:

JOHN-Q; PUBLIC, of 1122 my STREET, MINNESOTA.

THE UNITED STATES, THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN, COUNTY OF SHERBURNE, CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, CITY OF ELK RIVER, CITY OF BECKER, THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS, ELK RIVER, AND BECKER. ALL MEMBERS OF THE BAR ASSOCIATION. THE DISTRICT COURTS OF MINNESOTA, COUNTY, CITY OR STATE. and ALL OTHER CORPORATE MEMBERS WHO ARE, OR WHO MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY COMPLAINTS AGAINST MY NATURAL BODY.



If any man or woman desiring to answer this affidavit, please answer in the manner of this affidavit, with notarized affidavit, using your Christian or family name for signature, and mail to the below named, address provided, within five (5) days or default will be obtained.


This document is the preparation of the undersigned.


Before the Almighty God and under His statutes, I declare that the foregoing is the truth in accord with the best of my knowledge on this Eleventh day January in the year of our Lord Two thousand Five.




________________________________

John-Q; Public. Sui-Juris.

ACKNOWLEDGMENT


The use of a Notary Public is for verification of autograph only and does not grant jurisdiction to anyone


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John-Q; Public, The undersigned, who is personally known by me or upon proper identification, is appearing before me this day and signing the within instrument in my presence and for the purposes therein stated. Signed this Eleventh day of January in the year of our Lord Two thousand Five. In the [state of Minnesota county of Hennepin.]



SEAL



_________________________

NOTARY PUBLIC

My commission expires on: _______________________________________



The Recorder Doc number is still on it and no refund check. If it wasnt any good you would think that I would get a refund.
The doc clearly says "this document is the preparation of the undersigned!!"

clues anyone ?? as to what this means ??

I recorded 7 different notice and demands on dec 30th and a revocation of signature from 1040 irs forms, havent recieved them back with a post it.

this Is not mine I live in Texas but I am just starting to learn about this but I figured I should share as I go.
Thank you for any thoughts or adds to the UCC
Or a.d.c.e.?

http://web.archive.org/web/20060424172713/http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/links2educate.htm
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2008, 01:11:11 PM »

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/court/2024-affidavit-denial-corporate-existence.html
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2008, 01:14:40 PM »

ok, this does what now? I'm confused. Huh
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2008, 01:29:02 PM »

DENIAL OF CORPORATE EXISTENCE
wHAT IT MEANS.

STATUTORY RECOGNITION OF THE RIGHT OF
A MAN TO DENY CORPORATE EXISTENCE

Piercing the Corporate Veil
[A paper from a law researcher in Louisiana]

The term "Piercing the Corporate Veil" is a legal one which identifies the process where a court removes the protection provided individual members of a corporation for criminal activity, and makes these members responsible for their own actions. In reality, according to the original meaning of corporations, is that these corporate groups were established exactly for that reason; for unlawful purposes, primarily to escape punishment for their crimes by placing the blame on a fictional organization responsible to no one.
The "United States" government jumped on the corporate bandwagon the first part of the 1870's by declaring themselves a separate entity from Constitutional government. This, of course, followed the war between the states and the supposed Fourteenth Amendment, which lawfully never was, but was accepted by the newly formed corporation called the "United States."

The fact that the Constitution had already established a United States was inconsequential to those traitors in Congress, because it was the Constitution itself they wanted destroyed, and the war, instigated by the Jewish factions of Europe, was fought for this purpose, and all the flowery fictions blamed for the war is pure fantasy.

Corporations themselves are natural processes of society, that is, when a group of people gather for a particular purpose, such as for forming a community they are a corporation, and there can be no criminal intent attached thereto, but it is when corporations are established with the power to declare themselves bankrupt that makes them criminal. This is the situation of our "government" today; the richest, most powerful nation on earth "bankrupt." Just the thought is ridiculous.

Corporations are legal fictions; that is, they do not exist except in the minds of men. Anyone can create a fantasy in their own mind and make it do for them what they please, but these fantasies cannot, nor do not extend to areas outside the realm of personal capacity. Corporations are made of living, breathing men, all with the same ideas and purposes, so we can look upon them with the same limitations as the individual, and that is their jurisdiction is confined to the lawful area of their creation.

A corporation, being a legal fiction, cannot think, it cannot act in any manner, even to communication with natural man, and for this reason it must have somebody, or bodies to speak and act for it, and the lawyers have set themselves up for this task.

The enormity of corporate enterprises is limited only by imagination, and they are gold mines for the bar associations, which are corporations themselves. Even thieves must leave an out for themselves, as they never know when the worm will turn, and "dumb" burrowing rodents will have at least two exits from their dens. After years of research, a few people locally have found, what we believe to be that "out" from corporate jurisdiction which has been milking the citizens of this nation for well over a century.

We have had great success with this "out," and the shocked looks and frenzies of judges presented with this procedure show us that we are on the right track. As all other "sure" things, however, we can't rest on our laurels and be smug with our assumptions that it is fool proof.

We have to remember that it took the lawyer profession many years to come up with their gimmicks, and they aren't going to fall over and play dead as we proceed to break up their playhouses, and we know from experience that they know how to play rough. The idea is to hit hard, fast, and as widespread as possible before they can see what is happening, and that is why we need as much diversity and geographical application as we can muster.

There is nothing complicated about the procedure of disclaiming corporation existence, which is what all this is about; the difficulty lies overcoming a lifetime of corporate propaganda, and we have had great difficulty in this area. We who work with this procedure went through the same agonizing process before we realized that it really works. We were looking for the complicated when the answer to our problems was right under our noses all of the time.

I don't mean to write a book and omit the meat of my subject, but you will find that some prosecutors and judges just haven't got the picture yet, and will ask your source of information when you go before them, and you need a little background to keep from being embarrassed. Again, try not to read difficulty into a perfectly simple procedure, which is outlined below. Not having access to laws of other states I can only quote from those to which I have access, and those are of Louisiana.

We have tried this system in Alabama and Florida, and know it works there (we didn't even research the law books in those states before acting) and we have to assume it will work nationally, as the corporation veil encompasses every nook and cranny of the nation, and for this very reason we at present can't see where a general withdrawal from their jurisdiction is possible. Every case must be decided on its own until there are enough of us, and locations, to make the corporate masters accept the fact that they can't fight it. Please read the two sections from the Louisiana Civil Codes, and the Louisiana Revised Statutes, below carefully; disect them word by word and the message will come out loud and clear.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060515232626/www.wealth4freedom.com/law/corp-veil.htm
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2008, 01:37:23 PM »

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ok, this does what now? I'm confused. Huh

This would be a very long post if I were to go into the minutia of what Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) is. In short, the government became a corporation in 1871 (?) (I can never remember dates exactly). UCC asserts that all citizens are not citizens, but corporations working for the BIG corporation, the US government. Ever notice how "income" is never defined for a citizen for income taxes? But it IS lawful to take taxes from a corporation? This gets into the whole names being in capital letters versus capital and lowercase letters thing. The all caps is the name of your corporation (ie, if your name is John E Doe then your corporation name is JOHN E DOE). This also applies for laws. Ever notice how most laws read more and more like a contract instead of a law? This also gets into the United States of America versus the united States of America. It's all very confusing at times, but very compelling. A friend who is going through the process of filing for financial freedom using UCC, gave me the site below to look at.

http://www.nmcservices.net/ucc1.html

I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but frankly, I do think this stuff is legit. It's so convoluted and creates all sorts of loop holes for those who can get thru the hoop legitimately that I don't doubt that the elite use it for themselves.

Just a warning that if you do decide to start poking around with UCC that there is TONS of disinfo out there. Not to discourage your investigation, but check, check, and re-check facts and judge for yourself.

Even if you don't buy into all of UCC, ponder why we have our attorneys pass a BARR exam. What does BARR stand for? I'll give you a clue. The first two letters refer to British Admiralty.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2008, 01:44:48 PM »

This would be a very long post if I were to go into the minutia of what Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) is. In short, the government became a corporation in 1871 (?) (I can never remember dates exactly). UCC asserts that all citizens are not citizens, but corporations working for the BIG corporation, the US government. Ever notice how "income" is never defined for a citizen for income taxes? But it IS lawful to take taxes from a corporation? This gets into the whole names being in capital letters versus capital and lowercase letters thing. The all caps is the name of your corporation (ie, if your name is John E Doe then your corporation name is JOHN E DOE). This also applies for laws. Ever notice how most laws read more and more like a contract instead of a law? This also gets into the United States of America versus the united States of America. It's all very confusing at times, but very compelling. A friend who is going through the process of filing for financial freedom using UCC, gave me the site below to look at.

http://www.nmcservices.net/ucc1.html

I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but frankly, I do think this stuff is legit. It's so convoluted and creates all sorts of loop holes for those who can get thru the hoop legitimately that I don't doubt that the elite use it for themselves.

Just a warning that if you do decide to start poking around with UCC that there is TONS of disinfo out there. Not to discourage your investigation, but check, check, and re-check facts and judge for yourself.

Even if you don't buy into all of UCC, ponder why we have our attorneys pass a BARR exam. What does BARR stand for? I'll give you a clue. The first two letters refer to British Admiralty.

THANK YOU i will make sure i do all the research befor fileing.
I have a family memeber that can check thing for me also.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 02:55:26 PM »

Your straw man is an artificial person-Take back your Strawman today!!!

Your straw man (Strawman) is an artificial person created by law at the of your birth, the inscription of an ALL-CAPITAL LETTERS NAME on your birth certificate/document, which is a document of title and a negotiable instrument. Your lawful, Christian name of birthright was replaced with a legal, corporate name of deceit and fraud. Your name in upper and lower case letters (Jane Mary Doe) has been answering when the legal person, your name in ALL-CAPTIAL LETTERS (JANE MARY DOE), is addressed, and therefore the two have been recognized as being one and the same. When, you Jane Mary Doe, the lawful being distinguish yourself as another party than the legal person, the two will be separated.

Legally, since your birth your artificial person, has been considered a slave

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http://www.nmcservices.net/strawman.html
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2008, 03:02:34 PM »

I have done lots of reading on this subject too.  I believe it is valid and would be worth a try IF we were not so far along in the NWO scheme of things.  As it is now I kind of feel like this:  they have the guns and probably don't give a rats ass about your free strawman.

If you do go through the process, please keep us updated on your progress - thanks
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 03:12:48 PM »

I will be reading up for at least a few weeks on it then i will consult with my lawyer then i will do it.
And yes we are far along in this but you must understand one thing it could be true or not but it is strange.

But the way you are suppose to present this and how to write it and in red of course all could be pointing to a Masonic document..
AS i have attempted in court stances and gestures of Masonic likeness and in the face of an officer knowing I was guilty the case was dismissed.
You tell me what that should mean.
Because I don’t know. I’m not a mason. But I have learned a lot of the ways.
So in light of that i would have to say that this doc. could be there way out of there own kind.
This also could keep me out of fema camps?
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 03:34:17 PM »

Interesting thoughts, however, I don't really think it will keep you out of a Fema camp and might even get you there faster.

Lawyers - not too sure I would trust one to steer you right.  One of the emphasis is that you must use Common Law -YOU must know what YOU are doing.  As said before, research and research some more.

The group known as the Republic of Texas is a good place to go for a little guidance and moral support.

My husband was talking to one of our local police officers about that pamphlet the fbi put out saying that people who refer to the Constitution may be terrorist, the policeman said "thats just for those Republic of Texas folks that think they don't need a drivers license and stuff like that"

So - tread carefully.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2008, 03:48:23 PM »

Have you read about Allodial titles yet?  That one really got my goat.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2008, 04:53:17 PM »

Can someone explain what relationship does the State in the Uk have over you. I know from the above website that the US government is like a corporation and that when you are a British Citizen you become a "subject" of the queen but I am not sure if there is an equal of the "Freeman" movement in the UK does anybody know. Now everything I see quoted on human rights and the such come from the European Human Rights Act of 1998 but this subs cedes common law so basically people in the european union already have no basic rights.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2008, 06:25:23 PM »

Can someone explain what relationship does the State in the Uk have over you. I know from the above website that the US government is like a corporation and that when you are a British Citizen you become a "subject" of the queen but I am not sure if there is an equal of the "Freeman" movement in the UK does anybody know. Now everything I see quoted on human rights and the such come from the European Human Rights Act of 1998 but this subs cedes common law so basically people in the european union already have no basic rights.
start a thread asking for help in the uk and some one will help it always works we all want to help each other.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2008, 06:26:42 PM »

Have you read about Allodial titles yet?  That one really got my goat.
no i havnt but ill look into it.
I know i must tread litely as the times we are in i am also trying to learn of how to fight forcloser you may see me start a thread soon on that
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2008, 06:34:18 PM »

Hydro, you're getting into the nuts and bolts of how the NWO tricked Americans. I also highly recommend watching the 8 hour Constitution course by Michael Badnarik. He gets into the Allodial titles and the difference between contracts and laws.

The videos can be seen here:
http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

Grab some popcorn and notepad. You'll definitely want to take notes. Smiley And once you look into Allodial title, you'll find another tax you shouldn't have to pay. It's all a fraud....
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2008, 06:55:41 PM »

ive seen those videos thank you though great info

I am on the Straw man (me) in capital letters and why the government owned me at birth i'm mad as hell and im not going to take it any more.

here is a video on  understanding the the strawman. (you)

by kent hovand
http://www.nmcservices.net/strawmanvideo.html
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2008, 07:14:11 PM »

YES, i found it Grin

here is the real affidavid form and instructions on how to deny the fact that the corporation of united states posses you.
http://sedm.org/Forms/Affidavits/AffCorpDenial.pdf
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2008, 08:27:06 PM »

Your straw man is an artificial person-Take back your Strawman today!!!

Your straw man (Strawman) is an artificial person created by law at the of your birth, the inscription of an ALL-CAPITAL LETTERS NAME on your birth certificate/document, which is a document of title and a negotiable instrument. Your lawful, Christian name of birthright was replaced with a legal, corporate name of deceit and fraud. Your name in upper and lower case letters (Jane Mary Doe) has been answering when the legal person, your name in ALL-CAPTIAL LETTERS (JANE MARY DOE), is addressed, and therefore the two have been recognized as being one and the same. When, you Jane Mary Doe, the lawful being distinguish yourself as another party than the legal person, the two will be separated.

Legally, since your birth your artificial person, has been considered a slave or indentured servant to the various federal, provincial and municipal governments via your STATE-issued, STATE-created birth certificate in the name of your all-caps person. Your birth certificate was issued so that  the issuer could claim "exclusive" title to the legal person created. This was further compounded when you voluntarily obtained a driver's license and a SSN (Social Security Number). The state even owns your personal and private life through your STATE-issued marriage license/certificate issued in the all-caps names. You have had no rights in birth, marriage, nor will you have them even in death unless you re-capture your straw man. (The names on tombstones in cemeteries are in all-caps.) The STATE holds the title to your legal person it created via your birth certificate, until Jane Mary Doe, the rightful owner, the holder in due course of the instrument, that is yourself, reclaims/redeems it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2008, 08:32:59 PM »

We were never told, with full & open disclosure, what our government officials were planning to do & why. We were never told that government (the United States) was a corporation, a fictitious "person". We were never told that government had quietly, almost secretly, created a shadow, a STRAW MAN (STRAWMAN) for each & every AMERICAN, so that government could not only "control" the people, but also raise an almost unlimited amount of revenue - so it could continue not just to exist, but to GROW. We were never told that when government deals with the STRAW MAN (STRAWMAN) it is not dealing with real, living, men & women.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2008, 05:43:40 AM »

This area of research was the most traumatic period of my "awakening" - take care.
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2008, 02:14:31 PM »

This area of research was the most traumatic period of my "awakening" - take care.


well did you do anything about it is the question and if you did what was your experiance?

If you didnt are you still a corporation of 1?
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2008, 05:03:11 PM »

well did you do anything about it is the question and if you did what was your experiance?

If you didn't are you still a corporation of 1?

I am still a slave who's chains grow heavier every day. 
I still have underage children to consider, a business that requires a license and numerous other ties to the system.  You can't pick and choose - it's all or nothing. 

Please keep us posted on your progress, and good luck.
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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2008, 05:17:43 PM »

I've always wondered if this concept was indeed the nuts-and-bolts of the great conspiracy. Here's a link to the Magnificent Deception talk by self-proclaimed "Freeman on the Land" Robert Menard. It's a fascinating 2-hour watch for sure, and he's quite entertaining to boot.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6290096098420284422&ei=WSf1SIbCHJCYrAKhtozrDg&q=freeman+on+the+land+%22robert+menard%22

It's clearly not just an American, British or Canadian thing...

Also check out "Irene's Story" (Vancouver-based freedom fighter I believe)
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2008, 05:23:45 PM »

I am still a slave who's chains grow heavier every day. 
I still have underage children to consider, a business that requires a license and numerous other ties to the system.  You can't pick and choose - it's all or nothing. 

Please keep us posted on your progress, and good luck.

well i would be a buisness person also under the corp of hydrogenpal.
I am wideling myself out of the monitary system by useing farmers markets and flee markets.
no taxes no problems, no liabilities. just cash and carry

When I stand befor the altar of God and he askes me since i knew about the system and learned a way out from under it why did i stay a part of the "beast system"?
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 05:37:41 PM »

Good question, I hope you find the answer you can live with, I am struggling with mine.
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2008, 07:47:56 PM »

I've always wondered if this concept was indeed the nuts-and-bolts of the great conspiracy. Here's a link to the Magnificent Deception talk by self-proclaimed "Freeman on the Land" Robert Menard. It's a fascinating 2-hour watch for sure, and he's quite entertaining to boot.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6290096098420284422&ei=WSf1SIbCHJCYrAKhtozrDg&q=freeman+on+the+land+%22robert+menard%22

It's clearly not just an American, British or Canadian thing...

Also check out "Irene's Story" (Vancouver-based freedom fighter I believe)

that video was awsome made me laugh and tuaght me law. thx freeski
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2008, 08:15:09 PM »

that video was awsome made me laugh and taught me law.

My pleasure, I'd love to have a beer with that dude. I've been looking into the similarities with the income tax fraud/central bank between the U.S. and Canada and that's what led me to him. (Irene's Story first, actually)

Irene Maus Gravenhorst got legal after a bad divorce and gets into common law, our fictional names created by the banks "and gangsters" - interesting stuff that goes to the lunacy and outright scam of the IRS, CCRA/Revenue Canada and the law as a whole. (Video keeps disappearing but this one works for now; I've see raw footage of her police encounters in the past but... hard to find)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7678707764082656820
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2008, 06:14:53 AM »

Hydro, you're getting into the nuts and bolts of how the NWO tricked Americans. I also highly recommend watching the 8 hour Constitution course by Michael Badnarik. He gets into the Allodial titles and the difference between contracts and laws.

The videos can be seen here:
http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

Grab some popcorn and notepad. You'll definitely want to take notes. Smiley And once you look into Allodial title, you'll find another tax you shouldn't have to pay. It's all a fraud....
im going to go back and watch this over again it was great also
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DENIAL OF CORPORATE EXISTENCE

STATUTORY RECOGNITION OF THE RIGHT OF
A MAN TO DENY CORPORATE EXISTENCE

Piercing the Corporate Veil
[A paper from a law researcher in Louisiana]


The term "Piercing the Corporate Veil" is a legal one which identifies the process where a court removes the protection provided individual members of a corporation for criminal activity, and makes these members responsible for their own actions. In reality, according to the original meaning of corporations, is that these corporate groups were established exactly for that reason; for unlawful purposes, primarily to escape punishment for their crimes by placing the blame on a fictional organization responsible to no one.
The "United States" government jumped on the corporate bandwagon the first part of the 1870's by declaring themselves a separate entity from Constitutional government. This, of course, followed the war between the states and the supposed Fourteenth Amendment, which lawfully never was, but was accepted by the newly formed corporation called the "United States." (USC TITLE 28 > PART VI > CHAPTER 176 > SUBCHAPTER A > § 3002 (15) (A))

The fact that the Constitution had already established a United States was inconsequential to those traitors in Congress, because it was the Constitution itself they wanted destroyed, and the war, instigated by the Jewish factions of Europe, was fought for this purpose, and all the flowery fictions blamed for the war is pure fantasy.

Corporations themselves are natural processes of society, that is, when a group of people gather for a particular purpose, such as for forming a community they are a corporation, and there can be no criminal intent attached thereto, but it is when corporations are established with the power to declare themselves bankrupt that makes them criminal. This is the situation of our "government" today; the richest, most powerful nation on earth "bankrupt." Just the thought is ridiculous.

Corporations are legal fictions; that is, they do not exist except in the minds of men. Anyone can create a fantasy in their own mind and make it do for them what they please, but these fantasies cannot, nor do not extend to areas outside the realm of personal capacity. Corporations are made of living, breathing men, all with the same ideas and purposes, so we can look upon them with the same limitations as the individual, and that is their jurisdiction is confined to the lawful area of their creation.

A corporation, being a legal fiction, cannot think, it cannot act in any manner, even to communication with natural man, and for this reason it must have somebody, or bodies to speak and act for it, and the lawyers have set themselves up for this task.

The enormity of corporate enterprises is limited only by imagination, and they are gold mines for the bar associations, which are corporations themselves. Even thieves must leave an out for themselves, as they never know when the worm will turn, and "dumb" burrowing rodents will have at least two exits from their dens. After years of research, a few people locally have found, what we believe to be that "out" from corporate jurisdiction which has been milking the citizens of this nation for well over a century.

We have had great success with this "out," and the shocked looks and frenzies of judges presented with this procedure show us that we are on the right track. As all other "sure" things, however, we can't rest on our laurels and be smug with our assumptions that it is fool proof.

We have to remember that it took the lawyer profession many years to come up with their gimmicks, and they aren't going to fall over and play dead as we proceed to break up their playhouses, and we know from experience that they know how to play rough. The idea is to hit hard, fast, and as widespread as possible before they can see what is happening, and that is why we need as much diversity and geographical application as we can muster.

There is nothing complicated about the procedure of disclaiming corporation existence, which is what all this is about; the difficulty lies overcoming a lifetime of corporate propaganda, and we have had great difficulty in this area. We who work with this procedure went through the same agonizing process before we realized that it really works. We were looking for the complicated when the answer to our problems was right under our noses all of the time.

I don't mean to write a book and omit the meat of my subject, but you will find that some prosecutors and judges just haven't got the picture yet, and will ask your source of information when you go before them, and you need a little background to keep from being embarrassed. Again, try not to read difficulty into a perfectly simple procedure, which is outlined below. Not having access to laws of other states I can only quote from those to which I have access, and those are of Louisiana.

We have tried this system in Alabama and Florida, and know it works there (we didn't even research the law books in those states before acting) and we have to assume it will work nationally, as the corporation veil encompasses every nook and cranny of the nation, and for this very reason we at present can't see where a general withdrawal from their jurisdiction is possible. Every case must be decided on its own until there are enough of us, and locations, to make the corporate masters accept the fact that they can't fight it. Please read the two sections from the Louisiana Civil Codes, and the Louisiana Revised Statutes, below carefully; disect them word by word and the message will come out loud and clear.

(Eldon’s note: Statute 445 was repealed around 1988; however, 429 is still around as Revised Statute 15:429, and is posted on the internet by the Louisiana State Government website: Revised Statute 15:429 )

Civil Codes of Louisiana Art. 445.


"The statutes and regulations which corporations enact for their police and discipline, are obligatory upon all their respective members who are bound to obey them, provided such statutes contain nothing contrary to the laws, to public liberty, or to the interest of others.
Louisiana Revised Statutes Art. 429.

Corporate existence presumed unless affidavit of denial filed before trial. On trial of any criminal case it shall not be necessary to prove the incorporation of any corporation mentioned in the indictment, unless the defendant, before entering upon such trial, shall have filed his affidavit specifically denying the existence of such corporation."


These two simple paragraphs say it all. If one is a member of a corporation he is bound by corporate rules and regulations, and those outside those corporations are not subject to their jurisdiction. The corporate status of an individual entering the court is automatically assumed by the court unless they have notice to counter such assumptions, and this is the purpose of the affidavit, an example of which I will provide below.

All of the socialist programs, integration of the races, the grab of power at all echelons of government, and all the other ills of this nation are corporate "enterprises." One cannot escape the thumb of corporate authority until such time as he has removed himself from the jurisdiction.

We can view government today as a corporate reality, where the Constitution is merely a by word, or ruse of fiction, where the Congress is the board of governors, the president is the corporate CEO, and the "courts" are mere corporate arbitration boards, including the U.S. Supreme Court. When we pierce the corporate veil and remove ourselves from that corrupt venture we become men again and carry with us our natural laws and sovereignty, from whence the corporations received their powers originally.

The corporations of which we are primarily concerned are these:


UNITED STATES (CANADA , THE CROWN, THE QUEEN)
ALL BAR ASSOCIATIONS
EVERY STATE OF THE UNION (ANY PROVINCE)
EVERY COUNTY, PARISH OF Every State Of The Union (Or Province)
EVERY CITY, TOWN, BURG, OR OTHER CORPORATE SUBDIVISION
EVERY MEMBER OF CORPORATIONS, INCLUDING YOURSELF UNTIL DENIAL OF THOSE CORPORATIONS ARE COMPLETE BY AFFIDAVIT
EVERY DEPARTMENT OF FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, CITY, ETC., INCLUDING SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS, CITY - TOWN POLICE DEPARTMENTS, JUDGES, PROSECUTORS, AND ALL OTHER MUNICIPAL OFFICERS AND PERSONS
THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, INCLUDING STATE TAX DIVISIONS, AND CITY INCOME TAX DEPARTMENTS WHERE THEY EXIST (And, CCRA)


I will provide here a scenario (fictitious name and place) and a sample of affidavit to overcome the final disposition of the case involved: John Preston Hickman has just been stopped by a Tarrant City, Alabama cop by the name of William C. Henly, for doing 45 in a 35 MPH zone. After the normal procedures of checking drivers license, insurance, etc., Henly gives Hickman a ticket, with an appearance date of June 15, 2000 in city court. John does it right by not arguing with the cop, and doing as he has been told by the officer, and accepting the ticket and even signing it as ordered by the cop. Then John goes home and prepares himself an affidavit, which reads something like this:

Eldon's Note: I have a sample Canadian affidavit of denial available on my FTP download site. Find it as: genaffidavit.rtf

Affidavit of Denial of Corporation Existence

I, John Preston: Hickman, a living, breathing full liability man, declare in my own handwriting that the following facts are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

I hereby deny that the following corporations exist: UNITED STATES, THE STATE OF ALABAMA, THE COUNTY OF JEFFERSON, TARRANT CITY, ALABAMA, THE TARRANT CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WILLIAM C. HENLY, ALL BAR ASSOCIATIONS, THE TARRANT CITY COURT, JOHN PRESTON HICKMAN, of 3102 WILLOW DRIVE, TARRANT CITY, ALABAMA, and ALL OTHER CORPORATE MEMBERS WHO ARE, OR WHO MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY COMPLAINTS AGAINST MY NATURAL BODY.

If any man or woman desiring to answer this affidavit, please answer in the manner of this affidavit, with notarized affidavit, using your Christian or family name for signature, and mail to the below named notary, address provided, within five (5) days or default will be obtained.

John Preston: Hickman

On the 25th day of May, 2000 a.d., a man who identified himself as John Preston Hickman appeared before me, a notary, and attested to the truth of this affidavit with his signature.

Wilson R. Nimbly, Notary Public
1423 Fairmon Drive
Tarrant City, Alabama 35217

Three copies of this affidavit should be (preferably) handwritten; one copy forwarded to the Tarrant City Police Department in time to give them five days to respond. One copy should be kept on you when you go to court, and, thirty minutes before you enter the court, take the remaining two copies, file one in their court, have the clerk stamp the other and keep with you in court in case the prosecutor and judge have not received their copies.

Eldon's note: It may be better in Canada to serve by registered mail. Make sure it is sent so as to allow time to get to the Clerk of the Court. Have the affidavit sworn before a notary or a commissioner for oaths. Send at least three copies, and the original.

The way it has gone for us in like situations here, when the "defendant's" name is called, he stands and answers, and the judge will look to the prosecutor and ask him the anticipated action of the charges. The prosecutor (speaking in low tones) replies that the evidence is lacking for prosecution, or something in that manner, and the judge dismisses the case.

This system has worked in many such cases, in a state tax case, where the state was required to return the money taken from the bank accounts of a husband and wife, with the tax "debt" being cleared from the records. I have used it, personally, to place a $150,000.00 lien against a lawyer in Birmingham, Alabama, which has been there for several years. He brought suit in HIS court to have the lien removed, to no avail. Of course I never answered his frivolous suit because I had already identified myself as a living man, and not one of his fictions.

I used the affidavit to stop my phone company from adding AT&T charges for their social engineering, and a couple of other minor purposes; all were stopped cold. The amount of wins in this area, with no losses convinces us that this procedure set up in 1925 by the state legislature of Louisiana is a very valid process, and should be effective, for any and all reasons, against any corporation, public or private, within the United States. There is a case pending against the Social Security administration, or involving social security, and the results will be reported to those who receive this.

Tax liens are official legal charges against an individual, and the affidavit works there also. Remember that IRS is a corporation unto itself, and even though it is not directly connected to the U. S. Government, the fact that it operates within this nation makes it liable to the affidavit. If a bank, for any reason, gives a person's money to those whose signatures are not on the bank card, are committing a crime, and the person giving that money to IRS, the state, or anyone else is personally responsible to the depositor, and an affidavit to that bank should result in the immediate redeposit of those funds. The use of the affidavit is limited only by the imagination, and I think it is about time we make it payback time for those bastards who have milked us dry for the past several decades. I would like to know the results of all who use this system and I will keep a permanent record of all transactions.

One man was hesitant to use this system because "judges just walk all over those who challenge their jurisdiction." Well, with the affidavit we most certainly challenging their jurisdiction, but not in general. Any rebuttal at all is, in a way, challenging their jurisdiction, and that is what it is all about.

What we need to get straight right off is the fact that they DO have jurisdiction in their corporate capacities, but that doesn't mean they can bring noncorporate citizens into that jurisdiction, which is exactly what they have done - through fraud. All we are doing with the affidavit is merely showing them that their assumptions that all men are a part of their scheme are very wrong, and that we have the law on our side that shows them to be wrong.

Corporations, even though they are "legal" fictions, are still businesses; businesses are commercial enterprises, and commercial enterprises are are controlled by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). Judges will tell you differently and they will be wrong. Corporations are established by the state, whether federal or otherwise, (government is state) and all states of the Union have accepted the UCC, which originally was established for the District of Columbia, if my information is correct. The UCC is a complicated mass of business jargon to the casual reader, but in reality our rights are contained in the pages of those documents. Our right to contract, fair play in contracts, business, and all other aspects of human commerce activities are covered in the UCC.

While man, especially the Christian man, is born with the common law in his heart, the English common law was derived from commerce and commercial law itself. In the middle ages, open "fairs," or trading centers were set up in England, and most likely in all other countries of Europe, where people could bring their produce and goods to sell. People would come from all areas of Europe to attend these fairs, or trading centers, and of course squabbling was rampant and constant, so courts of arbitration were established to settle these arguments, and render the exact law on any subject. These courts were called "pied powder courts" because, it is said, that the courts settled arguments before the dust of the well trampled ground could settle on their feet.

If I remember correctly, admiralty and maritime law was derived from this, and separation was made between law of the sea and law of the land, which was included in our Constitution. For a judge to say that he isn't affected by commercial law, or the UCC, is hogwash. I ask them if they aren't under commercial law, then why did it cost me $150.00 to file a case in their courts.

I still pay taxes to support them. Of course, the answer is evaded, and this is another story. The bottom line of the affidavit denying the existence of corporations is that it pierces the corporate veil by an individual, and for the same purposes; the criminal activities of the courts themselves. We, as individual sovereigns, have the right and the duty to question our servants (right of redress), and if the refuse to be questioned then this only proves our contention that they are crooks. It also makes them aliens to our way of life, because they are upholding the policies of the bar associations, which are alien corporations, instead of the law of this land. No lawyer, no judge, or other "judicial" agent of this nation is licensed by the state; aka, we the people, to do business - anywhere in the country. Yet, they treat us as aliens in our own venues. This has to stop, and I mean to do everything within my power to help it along.

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Judicial Notice
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Current Texas Rules of Court recognize
a man’s right to deny corporate existence:
By a Texas Law Researcher

In "The State of Texas" there are 2 rules in the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure. They are rule 52. ALLEGING A CORPORATION, and rule 93. CERTAIN PLEAS TO BE VERIFIED. Rule 52 is straight forward about the corporation status.

TRCP 52. ALLEGING A CORPORATION


“An allegation that a corporation is incorporated shall be taken as true, unless denied by the affidavit of the adverse party, his agent or attorney, whether such corporation is a public or private corporation and however created.”
In an equity setting where there is a maritime contract in effect . Only like entities can contract with each other. The entities I am talking about are “persons”, entities in a subject to government position (citizens, body politic, corporations, members, employee's and any other man made legal fiction).

Now we get to rule 93. This one is vague but interesting. In the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure, this rule is mentioned in the section on the "Motion to Abate", which is basically an old common law motion. I will reproduce the important parts with my comment in parentheses. - This rule takes up a whole page.


TRCP 93. CERTAIN PLEAS TO BE VERIFIED

“A pleading setting up any of the following matters, unless the truth of such matters appear of record, shall be verified by affidavit.

1. That the plaintiff has not legal capacity to sue or that the defendant has not the legal capacity to be sued. ( if you are not a corporation you would lack capacity, just for fun look up "civilly dead"or "civil death")
2. That the plaintiff is not entitled to recover in the capacity in which he sues, or that the defendant is not liable in the capacity in which he is sued.
(Note: Corporations, or members of a corporation as officers or employees of a corporation) cannot sue a man who is of unlimited liability status.)
3. omitted
4. That there is a defect of parties, plaintiff or defendant. (See Note in #2 above.)
5. omitted
6. That any party alleged in any pleading to be a corporation is not incorporated as alleged. (See note in #2 above)“
Ok. You get the point. This rule goes on to talk about contracts without consideration. It also talks about insurance claims. These pleadings are basically denying “personam jurisdiction” and subject matter jurisdiction.

Here is one more interesting tidbit. The book to which I refer is "O'Connor's Texas Rules Civil Trials 2000". Quoting Justice Michael O'Connor On page XII:

"To reduce gender choices, I refer to trial judges as the "trial court" and to parties as "it" - as though all parties were corporations, which they often are."

What is the significance of this? If you answer to the appelation of "person" in response to a charge under any Statute or Act, you are considered a corporate body without a free will mind.



Proof That Canadian Judges Consider All Canadians
As Being Corporate Entities

Criminal Code of Canada - Notice to corporation
621. (1) The clerk of the court or the prosecutor may, where an indictment is filed against a corporation, cause a notice of the indictment to be served on the corporation.

Comment: This is the only place where indictments are authorised, and for corporations, not for full liability People. The Common Law and the Magna Carta allow ONLY "Good Men of the Neighbourhood" - a Grand Jury to take a man to court.

Contents of notice

(2) A notice of an indictment referred to in subsection (1) shall set out the nature and purport of the indictment and advise that, unless the corporation appears on the date set out in the notice or the date fixed pursuant to subsection 548(2.1), and enters a plea, a plea of not guilty will be entered for the accused by the court, and that the trial of the indictment will be preceded with as though the corporation had appeared and pleaded.
R.S. 1985, c, C-46, S. 621; 1997, c. 18, s.71

Comment: The entering of a plea by a judge is done frequently against Canadians. This activity is only authorized in the Criminal Code of Canada for an accused corporation.

This means that all Canadians are considered corporations or corporate entities; or, the judges have unlawfully assumed authority for which there is no basis. Since the civil codified system (Criminal Code of Canada) is ONLY applicable to corporations or corporate entities, and not to full liability men with God Given rights, that means that Canadians judges are arch-traitors to the People of Canada when they unlawfully assume jurisdiction over them by imagining that they are corporations, and should be facing the death penalty, the penalty for TRAITORS.

Treason is not only aiding the enemy in time of war. It is the act of a servant overthrowing the authority and rights of the master or sovereign. The Canadian People are sovereign over all levels of government.


The REASONS for the Affidavit:

Protocols within the Code (Uniform Commercial Code - UCC)
The foundational maxims of the underlying commercial law, from which all law and commerce in the world today derive, are:


*A workman is worthy of his hire.

*All are equal under the law (moral and natural law). In commerce truth is sovereign.

*Truth is expressed in the form of an affidavit.

*An unrebutted claim, charge, or affidavit stands as the truth in commerce.

*An unrebutted affidavit becomes the judgement in commerce.

*All matters must be expressed to be resolved. He who leaves the field of battle first loses by default.

*Sacrifice is the measure of credibility (one who has not been damaged by, given to, lost on account of, or put at risk by another has no basis to make claims or charges against him/her).

*A lien or claim can be satisfied only through rebuttal by counter affidavit point-for-point, resolution by jury, or payment.

The reason, this scenario prevails is because the world has been set up to run precisely this way.

We (the slaves) were just not supposed to figure it out. Code is Set in Stone

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It MUST be understood that in this fraud that makes you a corporate entity, the Canadian (and American) courts determine whether you are, or are not a corporate member subject to the Crown, or to the corporate UNITED STATES, in the PRE-TRIAL HEARING.

That is, in fact, the so-called "TRIAL" where you MUST have the above noted affidavit, and have it read into the transcript. If you are charged under any statute, the actual trial is an administrative procedure of a dissident slave. Therefore, one must be persistant in demanding that the affidavit denying corporate existence be refuted point by point, or demand that it stand as truth prior to the termination of the pre-trial hearing. The result should only be the quashing of the case for want of proper jurisdiction; and, this upon your request for a motion to quash.

THE SOURCE OF THIS ARTICLE IS DETAX CANADA

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/law/corp-veil.htm
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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2008, 01:17:28 PM »

BUMPED THIS BECAUSE the caller on todays show. 10-17-08
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2008, 07:35:59 AM »

thanks lord edward coke he gave me this.
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2008, 09:24:40 AM »

A person created under de jure law, with the person’s identifying name appearing as
prescribed by law and according to the rules of English grammar, is a legal fact. A
corrupted “alter ego” version of that name, manufactured under the legal fiction of “right
of presumption” will have “credibility” only so long as the presumption remains
unchallenged. The rule of the world is that anything and everything skates unless you
bust it.

That means if at birth they made you a corporation through your birth certificate from then on they assumed you to be that corporation until you challenge it.

that is what this affidavit does.
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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2008, 09:48:27 AM »

A person created under de jure law, with the person’s identifying name appearing as
prescribed by law and according to the rules of English grammar, is a legal fact. A
corrupted “alter ego” version of that name, manufactured under the legal fiction of “right
of presumption” will have “credibility” only so long as the presumption remains
unchallenged. The rule of the world is that anything and everything skates unless you
bust it.

That means if at birth they made you a corporation through your birth certificate from then on they assumed you to be that corporation until you challenge it.

that is what this affidavit does.


The Birth Certificate
Since the early 1960's, State governments — themselves specially created, juristic,
corporate persons signified by all caps — have issued Birth Certificates to "persons" with
legal fiction all-caps names. This is not a lawful record of your physical birth, but rather
the birth of the juristic, all-caps name. It may appear to be your true name, but since no
proper name is ever written in all caps (either lawfully or grammatically) it does not
identify who you are. The Birth Certificate is the government’s self-created document of
title for its new “property,” i.e. the deed to the juristic-name artificial person whose allMemorandum
of Law on the Name Page 19 of 22
caps name “mirrors” your true name. The Birth Certificate brings the new all-caps name
into colorable admiralty/maritime law, the same way a ship (and ship of state) is berthed.
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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2008, 09:54:26 AM »

The Birth Certificate
Since the early 1960's, State governments — themselves specially created, juristic,
corporate persons signified by all caps — have issued Birth Certificates to "persons" with
legal fiction all-caps names. This is not a lawful record of your physical birth, but rather
the birth of the juristic, all-caps name. It may appear to be your true name, but since no
proper name is ever written in all caps (either lawfully or grammatically) it does not
identify who you are. The Birth Certificate is the government’s self-created document of
title for its new “property,” i.e. the deed to the juristic-name artificial person whose allMemorandum
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caps name “mirrors” your true name. The Birth Certificate brings the new all-caps name
into colorable admiralty/maritime law, the same way a ship (and ship of state) is berthed.

When a child is born, the hospital sends the original, not a copy, of the record of live
birth to the "State Bureau of Vital Statistics," sometimes called the "Department of
Health and Rehabilitative Services" (HRS). Each STATE is required to supply the
UNITED STATES with birth, death, and health statistics. The STATE agency that
receives the original record of live birth keeps it and then issues a Birth Certificate in the
corrupted, all-caps version of the baby’s true name, i.e. JAMES WILBER SMITH.

cer-tif-i-cate, noun. Middle English certificat, from Middle French, from Medieval
Latinceruficatum. from Late Latin, neuter of certificatus, past participle of certificare, to
certify, 15th century. 3: a document evidencing ownership or debt.-- Merriam Webster
Dictionary (1998).
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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2008, 02:32:16 PM »

wouldnt this give someone diplomatic immunities? i mean if i filed one of these documents properly would legal proceedings brought on by the state such as municipal court be considered null?

i mean does a court have to eat a loss of say a fine if they mail me an all-caps court notice and i have this done before a court apperance?
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2008, 02:35:45 PM »

wouldnt this give someone diplomatic immunities? i mean if i filed one of these documents properly would legal proceedings brought on by the state such as municipal court be considered null?

i mean does a court have to eat a loss of say a fine if they mail me an all-caps court notice and i have this done before a court apperance?
yes they have to eat it. your wording must be very precise though.
You must consider (you / jon doo) as third party and speak as if jon doo is a person other then yourself. and when you refer to you must refer to yourself as a "man / or woman".

In law the words individual and person are both stated as person which is a legal term of the jon doo corporation.

SO
when they call JON DOO on the docket do not reply.
If you do you have already lost the case as now you recognize that you are JON DOO.
Wait and when they ask if they missed anyone reply YES.
Then state that you are here representing JON DOO as sated on the docket.
They will ask you your name. reply with "my understood birth name is Jon C. Doo.
SO far they cant get you.
during the whole thing you must reply to JON DOO as a 3rd party at the end and the judge says Issue judgment and X$ to be paid.
You say "I refuse your offer" this is your legal right to refuse what they have offered it can not be a demand.

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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2008, 05:26:46 PM »

yes they have to eat it. your wording must be very precise though.
You must consider (you / jon doo) as third party and speak as if jon doo is a person other then yourself. and when you refer to you must refer to yourself as a "man / or woman".

In law the words individual and person are both stated as person which is a legal term of the jon doo corporation.

SO
when they call JON DOO on the docket do not reply.
If you do you have already lost the case as now you recognize that you are JON DOO.
Wait and when they ask if they missed anyone reply YES.
Then state that you are here representing JON DOO as sated on the docket.
They will ask you your name. reply with "my understood birth name is Jon C. Doo.
SO far they cant get you.
during the whole thing you must reply to JON DOO as a 3rd party at the end and the judge says Issue judgment and X$ to be paid.
You say "I refuse your offer" this is your legal right to refuse what they have offered it can not be a demand.



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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2008, 06:30:45 PM »

I have not really figured out how to get myself out of this mess I was entered in yet, but I am a soon to be father and would like to know if there is a way to file a birth certificate for my child with out screwing them over with this corporate ownership b.s.?
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2008, 06:44:34 PM »

I have not really figured out how to get myself out of this mess I was entered in yet, but I am a soon to be father and would like to know if there is a way to file a birth certificate for my child with out screwing them over with this corporate ownership b.s.?
yes you have the rite to say NO so say NO when they ask you would you like birth certificate or "we have made out this birth certificate for your new born." the people at the hospital dont know So just say No thank you I refuse.
Or you can always say it is not in my religion to sign over my child. and you will have worded it correctly.

As the birth certificate "certifies your child into the US GOVERNMENT corp.

Dont do it just say NO that you MAY file at a later date.you do not have to certify the child its ok to say NO and let them live free.

OK I guess I've made my point sorry just Getting so upset about all this.
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2008, 06:55:16 PM »

how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go?

George Mercier's "Invisible Contracts"
http://www.constitution.org/mercier/incon.htm
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