Gardener ordered to take down barbed wire ‘in case thieves hurt themselves"

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Offline KingNeil

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1075809/Gardener-ordered-barbed-wire-fence-case-thieves-hurt-it.html

Gardener ordered to take down barbed wire fence ‘in case thieves hurt themselves on it’

A gardener has been ordered by council chiefs to remove three foot high barbed wire ringing his allotment - in case thieves scratch themselves climbing over it.

Bill Malcolm, 61, took the drastic step of installing the wire in a bid to prevent burglars raiding his tool shed and ransacking his vegetable plots.

Intruders have struck three times in four months, stealing more than £300 worth of hardware, including spades, forks and hoes as well as destroying his potato patch.

The fed-up gardener surrounded his 600 square yard site in Worcester with a single strand of barbed wire, which stood no more than waist high.

But his local council declared the security measure was a health and safety hazard and warned him they would forcibly remove it if he refused.

Bill said: ‘It’s an absolutely ridiculous situation, all I wanted was to protect my property but the wire had to go in case a thief scratched himself.

‘The council said they were unhappy about the precautions I had made but my response was to tell them that only someone climbing over on to my allotment could possibly hurt themselves.

‘They shouldn’t be trespassing in the first place but the council apologised and said they didn’t want to be sued by a wounded thief.

‘I told them to let the thief sue me so at least that way I would know who was breaking into my allotment but everything I said fell on deaf ears.’

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Isn't it nice to know that we protect the petty thieves as much as the big thieves? If this garden thief gets caught, someone really should consider putting a spa package together for him/her.

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This is so ridiculous.  >:(

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this is rediculous. Maybe he should get a paintball gun and tag the perps. If they call the cops, they'd have to explain why they were on his property and why they have a hand shovel in their back pocket with the name bill on it.
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this is rediculous. Maybe he should get a paintball gun and tag the perps. If they call the cops, they'd have to explain why they were on his property and why they have a hand shovel in their back pocket with the name bill on it.
you hit them with a paint ball, and you will get done for assault with a weapon.
When they are out to destroy us, it is very hard to fight back, we can, it just takes time and effort and usually a lot of money so we give up.

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I commented over on the articles web site that the guy should sue the town council for aiding and abetting a criminal act.

Not for the taking down the fence part but for telling the owners they should leave the locks off their doors so the thief’s wouldn’t do damage braking in! That to my mind crosses the line into aiding and abetting a criminal act.
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I'm glad I live in a region where you can still legaly shoot an intruder.

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I'm glad I live in a region where you can still legaly shoot an intruder.

In CT you cant. I remember when I was a kid my dad telling me how if someone broke in his girlfriend could “get away” with shooting them (jury’s favor women) but he couldn’t. In CT if someone brakes in you have to leave!
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In CT you cant. I remember when I was a kid my dad telling me how if someone broke in his girlfriend could “get away” with shooting them (jury’s favor women) but he couldn’t. In CT if someone brakes in you have to leave!
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i think it is high time for British people to start out right silently killing and burying these petty-ass criminals.  they're out of control because you can't defend yourself and the police are useless.  the state is basically allowing the criminals to have free reign over the sheep!

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The guy will just have to get more creative.

Just simply hang a sign that states  'lethal' force will be used on tresspassers.

Council cannot do anything because 'lethal' is just that in quotes, implying a implied 'lethal' not a real lethal.

However its up to the criminal to figure out if it is 'legitimate' or legitimate or not.

~OR~

Hang a sign that states 'FOOD NOT FIT - DO NOT EAT.'  Then it is up to the criminal to figure out after the fact that a small section of the lettuce or tomato was injected with feces (if they try to call the bluff of the sign.)  The garden itself is protected from the public by the fence anyways. After getting a very deadly samonella infection, or something worse, how is the guy going to do anything, he did not obey the obvious sign, and ignored the warnings on it?!  Secondly if the guy does complain or file charges it is the onus of the criminal to prove that he did indeed get poisoning from the garden, as he just ingested the only piece of evidence.  If any official asks, simply point out that the soil levels are not balanced properly (high levels of arsenic or something, and make the issue unrelated and different to the complaint). How the guy became sick is probably from another garden he stole from, or a garbage can...  How is anyone going to prove otherwise? 

Sadly and finally I strongly suspect the people doing this really need that food, which is the hardest part of the whole thing.  They cannot fend for themselves.  However it may simply be ignorant punks garden shoplifting...

Enjoy the garden, just DON'T FORGET which part not to eat!

If Council wants to get crafty, its just up to the people to be crafty as well...






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Farmer Must Yank Wire Fence That May 'Hurt Thieves'
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2008, 11:17:56 PM »

You guys are going to love this story......


A British gardener’s local council has ordered him to remove a 3-foot high barbed wire fence around his property in case thieves hurt themselves on it, the Daily Mail reported Thursday.

Bill Malcolm, 61, installed the wire at his Worcester property after burglars robbed his tool shed and vegetable plots three times in four months, stealing more than $500 worth of hardware.

But Malcolm’s local council told him the wire was a health and safety hazard and warned him they would remove it by force if he did not do it himself, the Mail reported.

“The council said they were unhappy about the precautions I had made but my response was to tell them that only someone climbing over on to my allotment could possibly hurt themselves,” Malcolm told the Mail. “They shouldn't be trespassing in the first place but the council apologized and said they didn't want to be sued by a wounded thief.”

The council said that a fence on the property must be a post or rail fence, not barbed wire.

“With regard to the barbed wire, when this is identified on site, we are obliged to request its removal or remove it on health and safety grounds to the general public as this is a liability issue,” a council spokeswoman told the Mail.