David Icke & Alex Jones"The Gathering"

[InfoTruth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkRb3LUXQF4

This was from yesterdays show.

[Dig]

Good to hear these that they are both working together.

[Robodoon]

Good to hear these that they are both working together.

?

[Dig]

even better ; )

[unclecliffy]

"Good to hear these that they are both working together."

?

[Dig]

They are supporting each other and focused on what affects us all.

Freedom.

Please watch the video.

Thanks

[PTTurboe]

Glad to see that Alex is waking up!

[ironPlasma]

I was so glad to see Alex Jones and David Icke coming together. I really think David Icke is an interesting and insightful person. He might be right on even the alien thing. Chances are that if aliens wanted to take over, they wouldn't plant their mothership and start blasting us with lasers...they would probably use more stealthy means that would develop less resistent and would be more cost effective and would instead of destroying us, would turn us into slaves.

People tend to underestimate the likelihood of that scenario... and in my view, I've come to think that scenario is almost certainly going to happen once or twice or even multiple times over the course of history of a species, especially one with the numbers that we have recently developed. It takes resources and energy to kill, but it only takes brain power to influence and convert. As I've said before, I suspect slavery is quite rampant throughout the universe... it's all about slaves in the end and the power that they provide.

[sociostudent]

They are supporting each other and focused on what affects us all.

Freedom.

Please watch the video.

Thanks

Exactly. That is why I support Icke but not Joseph: Because Icke is willing to stand UP AGAINST the NWO and get people OUT of the box, while Joseph's busy with the duct tape trying to shut us IN the box regarding spirituality. He may SEEM like he's not, but he's so rude about religion that it brings people who are watching it into this theory that if we just like technology take over, we'll never have to work, and everything will be utopia. But in all reality, people like Icke and Jones are willing to call a spade a spade by pointing out that slavery to technology is still very much slavery, and that no one should mess with free will to choose between right and wrong by "reconditioning" them to think that wrong=right.

[Firewerk66]

Well, what a weird turn of events. Maybe Alex will eventually warm up to Peter Joseph! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMelHSMVQDI&feature=related

[xereau]

This is like 8 year old video.

Alex has since apologized and moved on.

Why are you stirring up shit?

[Blowback]

This is old shit.  He has Icke on the show all the time now and it's all good between them.  I'm sure Icke is used to the criticizm.

I'm glad Alex apologized to him though because this was kind of horse shit on Alex's part. 

Icke's ideas are no more out there than Terrence McKenna, but both guys have pretty interesting ideas that should at least be entertained and I doubt either is working for the NWO.  That was kind of a stretch on Alex's part, even though that clip is old school.

[Firewerk66]

im not trying to stir up shit, i've never seen this vid. my point in posting it (in this current climate of anti-Zeitgeist rhetoric), is that in the video Alex seems absolutely certain that Icke is disinfo or actually working for the NWO. Now Alex has changed his tune, which is fine as i really like Icke. It just goes to show once you actually understand something, or get to know the other side of the story, it becomes less threatening.

[netizen_x]

It's kinda like the history of this forum. In late 2007 everybody was high on the Ron Paul rush and people power was growing into a revolutionary consciousness. Everybody found themselves thrown in with people of left and right, black and white, jew and gentile, christian, buddhist, atheist, pagan, carnivore, vegetarian, and all old or newly converted libertarians. Everyone was a suspected troll and flamewars and info bombs were going off everywhere.

Kinda quieter now. Less phrenetic.

I used to be put off by Icke's new age and lizard stuff. A decade ago that was what Icke was always on about. But nowadays, as long as Icke sticks to the facts, I'll listen.

It's good to have him on the team.

[california]

When you have staying power like Alex, David, et. al....

it's amazing to watch these guys grow and evolve.

Some leaders can't handle the 'turns' as gracefully as Alex does....

I hear him clearly apologizing to David about his judgements from the past... on air....

[liko]

Everybody,including Alex makes mistakes sometimes & he admits himself he was alot more hotheaded when he was younger.Think about the things you might have said 10 years ago,posting petty  old stuff like this is more of an insight to your motivations than his,remember its all in the fruit.ha,as was said above he apologized & has moved on.

[Firewerk66]

When you have staying power like Alex, David, et. al....

it's amazing to watch these guys grow and evolve.

Some leaders can't handle the 'turns' as gracefully as Alex does....

I hear him clearly apologizing to David about his judgements from the past... on air....

for me, i couldnt care less about a formal apology from Alex. my point is that someplace in the past, Alex looked at Icke and the info he was discussing, analyzed it, and came to the conclusion stated in the video. its ironic to me now Alex has completely done a 180 on Icke. I have to question whether down the road Alex  might feel differently about Peter Joseph's work (personally i doubt it, but who knows).

[skyfind]

you look that this video was posted in may 2008, but didn´t know that it was an 8yrs old interview, and things have changed, as how they said:

This is like 8 year old video.

Alex has since apologized and moved on.

Why are you stirring up shit?

This is old shit.  He has Icke on the show all the time now and it's all good between them.  I'm sure Icke is used to the criticizm.

I'm glad Alex apologized to him though because this was kind of horse shit on Alex's part. 

Icke's ideas are no more out there than Terrence McKenna, but both guys have pretty interesting ideas that should at least be entertained and I doubt either is working for the NWO.  That was kind of a stretch on Alex's part, even though that clip is old school.

[GlobalCordon]

I remember AJ saying something like "I agree with David on 95% of what he says but the other 5% is like a turd in a punch bowl"!

I beleive that was taken out of context at the time and some thought AJ said David was a turd which he didnt.

And AJ apologised many times for that remark personaly to David. I think they make a good team and have woke up millions worldwide between them.

Hats off to them both!

[donnay]

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality"1/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2VJsxEZ-54&feature=related

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality"2/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QraEqSu_c&feature=related

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality"3/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-D2X8SxyIA&feature=related

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality" 4/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v19wIjBYTKc&feature=related

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality" 5/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yts4yVyJI8&feature=related

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality" 6/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXHM4-s7oU&feature=related

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality" 7/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7phe6wr-Q&feature=related

David Icke on Alex Jones Tv_10/06/08"Controlling Your Reality" 8/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6VSnS8PFx4&feature=related

[Initiated]

Mr. Icke is another individual to whom I hold in a high regard. Doesn't necessarily I agree with everything he has to say, but nor do I agree with everything what anyone has to say.

You are correct that this is old news and since then it seems as though there is a mend betwixt the two. For that, we should all learn a lesson that we can always have a change of heart and come to a compromise and a appreciation of one another.

[Orgetorix]

Exactly. That is why I support Icke but not Joseph: Because Icke is willing to stand UP AGAINST the NWO and get people OUT of the box, while Joseph's busy with the duct tape trying to shut us IN the box regarding spirituality. He may SEEM like he's not, but he's so rude about religion that it brings people who are watching it into this theory that if we just like technology take over, we'll never have to work, and everything will be utopia. But in all reality, people like Icke and Jones are willing to call a spade a spade by pointing out that slavery to technology is still very much slavery, and that no one should mess with free will to choose between right and wrong by "reconditioning" them to think that wrong=right.

You forget that David Icke is anti-religion also, but the main difference as you do clearly delineate is one of technocratic elitism vs. true spirituality. As both David Icke and Dr. Bill Deagle state so clearly is that what will save this planet is not a technical solution, but one of awakening to who and what we truly are.
Religion will not save us. In fact we are in this state of affairs precisely because of religion.

[voodo0]

Mr. Icke is another individual to whom I hold in a high regard. Doesn't necessarily I agree with everything he has to say, but nor do I agree with everything what anyone has to say.

You are correct that this is old news and since then it seems as though there is a mend betwixt the two. For that, we should all learn a lesson that we can always have a change of heart and come to a compromise and a appreciation of one another.

well said. 

[adbasque]

Well what a hypocritical society we live in today,
Not long ago 99% of people out there thought David Icke was a lunatic and now everybody is saying high regards to this man.

for over a decade the poor bloke could not go anywhere without people shouting things at him and his family, the same things for Alex.

I remember back in 1991 in terry woogan show, the whole audience was laughing at him when he said that the world was ruled by few families.
And now almost everyone thinks that David is great man, which I agree in a way but I do not agree with certain of his theories.

He seem to think that religion is a tool used by the illuminatis, but we look very closely
first it was the church that tried very hard to fight the first establishment of this Elite centuries ago, I am not talking about the Vatican, we know that the Vatican is part of this huge conspiracy.

And if you look at all the three major religions, Christianity, Judaism and Islam they are all against every single thing that the Illuminatis, satanists, NOW stands for.

The three religions first condamn, what has become the "the normal thing" the intrests, that most people don't even know it's one of the biggest sins, and many other things.

In that respect I strongly disagree with David Icke, his views on the subject are pro atheist which his right not to believe in any religion.

The second point, is this reptilian theory which I do not happen to agree, because in one hand it means that these bad guys are not really bad guys because they are not human beings.

In other words human beings are not capable to commit these atrocities?
no, human beings can be ruthless, no mercy, selfish, arrogant, and so on.

I do not believe for one minute that there are other beings than humans on this planet or any other planets for that matter until i see real proof, until now there is no evidence to proof otherwise.

There are however other beings called jinns, which yes they can possess and have influence on somebody's action it is true, and they can take any shape they wish.

They are mentioned in the Quoran, I am not sure about the bible and the old testament
anyway it might seem to some people as fiction or far fetched but lot of people have seen them and dealt with them.

Back to our subject, I have the highest respect to David, and this is not new, that goes back couple decades, back to the early late 80s.

but we must not forget other people like, who also blew the whistle years ago, some of them even paid with their own lives.

People such Bill Cooper, he was a good man, and our friends Jim Tucker, Tex marrs and many others, I can't name them all in here.

A lot of people tried for years to wake people up, but the problem was, that most of these guys did not know how to unite and fight the commun enemy, some of them wanted to get the credit of being the "first" but we should not care who was first to blow the whistle on these monsters.

I understood that since the early 80s, I was just a teenager but had no evidence to substantiate my doubts.
and when I started seeing all of these guys popping up from all over the place, I was not surprised at all.

I must admit I did not know who the people behind all this were, until some of these guys brought all of these names to our attention.

So must combine our efforts to fight back, it doesn't matter who knows more and who knew first.
because this is a matter of life and death.

I wish all of these guys, the investigators, the scientists, some people from the media and so on all get together just like the builderberg group meet, secretly to counter their efforts.

I am sure it can be done, all they need to do is to meet up and start it from there.

Alex Jones, David Icke, Richard Gage, Steven Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Tucker, Tex Marrs and many more, they can start the meeting and it will grow, more and more people will join.

What do you think guys?

[sociostudent]

Well what a hypocritical society we live in today,
Not long ago 99% of people out there thought David Icke was a lunatic and now everybody is saying high regards to this man.

for over a decade the poor bloke could not go anywhere without people shouting things at him and his family, the same things for Alex.

I remember back in 1991 in terry woogan show, the whole audience was laughing at him when he said that the world was ruled by few families.
And now almost everyone thinks that David is great man, which I agree in a way but I do not agree with certain of his theories.

He seem to think that religion is a tool used by the illuminatis, but we look very closely
first it was the church that tried very hard to fight the first establishment of this Elite centuries ago, I am not talking about the Vatican, we know that the Vatican is part of this huge conspiracy.

And if you look at all the three major religions, Christianity, Judaism and Islam they are all against every single thing that the Illuminatis, satanists, NOW stands for.

The three religions first condamn, what has become the "the normal thing" the intrests, that most people don't even know it's one of the biggest sins, and many other things.

In that respect I strongly disagree with David Icke, his views on the subject are pro atheist which his right not to believe in any religion.

The second point, is this reptilian theory which I do not happen to agree, because in one hand it means that these bad guys are not really bad guys because they are not human beings.

In other words human beings are not capable to commit these atrocities?
no, human beings can be ruthless, no mercy, selfish, arrogant, and so on.

I do not believe for one minute that there are other beings than humans on this planet or any other planets for that matter until i see real proof, until now there is no evidence to proof otherwise.

There are however other beings called jinns, which yes they can possess and have influence on somebody's action it is true, and they can take any shape they wish.

They are mentioned in the Quoran, I am not sure about the bible and the old testament
anyway it might seem to some people as fiction or far fetched but lot of people have seen them and dealt with them.

Back to our subject, I have the highest respect to David, and this is not new, that goes back couple decades, back to the early late 80s.

but we must not forget other people like, who also blew the whistle years ago, some of them even paid with their own lives.

People such Bill Cooper, he was a good man, and our friends Jim Tucker, Tex marrs and many others, I can't name them all in here.

A lot of people tried for years to wake people up, but the problem was, that most of these guys did not know how to unite and fight the commun enemy, some of them wanted to get the credit of being the "first" but we should not care who was first to blow the whistle on these monsters.

I understood that since the early 80s, I was just a teenager but had no evidence to substantiate my doubts.
and when I started seeing all of these guys popping up from all over the place, I was not surprised at all.

I must admit I did not know who the people behind all this were, until some of these guys brought all of these names to our attention.

So must combine our efforts to fight back, it doesn't matter who knows more and who knew first.
because this is a matter of life and death.

I wish all of these guys, the investigators, the scientists, some people from the media and so on all get together just like the builderberg group meet, secretly to counter their efforts.

I am sure it can be done, all they need to do is to meet up and start it from there.

Alex Jones, David Icke, Richard Gage, Steven Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Tucker, Tex Marrs and many more, they can start the meeting and it will grow, more and more people will join.


What do you think guys?

I think you raise a lot of good points, well-taken. I don't believe in reptilians, either, but I know that David Icke's heart really is in what he talks about. He loves humanity, and wants to see it do well, and so it's good to get his perspective (as well as the others mentioned).

Only one question: Why would they want to meet in secret like the elite? Evil is done in darkness (i.e., secret congressional meetings at 10pm) ; Good deeds are done out in the open. Just my 2 cents.

[adbasque]

Hi again

Oh I am absolutely positive that David Icke is genuine and he wants to see a better world and as you said he definitely cares about humanity, I simply said I don't agree with couple of his theories 

As for meeting in secret, because if these guys are meeting in public and do their plans, the Elite will know what they are preparing to counter them, which it would become very useless.

Until these guys are beaten, brought to justice, and true order is established, don't forget these people not only they are ruthless but true murderers, if for example they see that these good guys are trying to bring them down, they will do something drastic, they have to be caught by surprise.

For their own safety, and the safety of their plans they have to meet up in secret otherwise these Elite will try and break them before even they get to know each other loll

You must know by now, that people like, Alex, David, Jim and so on are followed on a daily basis watched at all time.

[sociostudent]

Hi again

Oh I am absolutely positive that David Icke is genuine and he wants to see a better world and as you said he definitely cares about humanity, I simply said I don't agree with couple of his theories 

As for meeting in secret, because if these guys are meeting in public and do their plans, the Elite will know what they are preparing to counter them, which it would become very useless.

Until these guys are beaten, brought to justice, and true order is established, don't forget these people not only they are ruthless but, if for example they see that these good guys are trying to bring them down, they will do something drastic, they have to be caught by surprise.

For their own safety, and the safety of their plans they have to meet up in secret otherwise these Elite will try and break them before even they get to know each other loll

You must know by now, that people like, Alex, David, Jim and so on are followed on a daily basis watched at all time.

I don't doubt that they are, but meeting secretly is what the globalists do, it's not what we do.

Because people who are still asleep see that and think, "well, what do they have to hide? What are they hiding for?" and will think their intentions are just as seedy as the elites.

[adbasque]

I see what you are saying, but imagine for a minute that these guys meet up in public or televised on national TVs, right?

And their plan is to come up with some ideas to destabilise members of this Elite and even try to bring them to justice, do you honestly think that these guys will simply sit back and wait?

No of course not, and don't forget that they still have powers they can use against them, the idea is to fight them the same way they are fighting our human rights, without their knowledge, in complete secrecy until they are stripped out of their powers then they can continue if you like working openly.

Because my dear they cannot win if their planning openly, they will be countered or even assassinated before they can take off.

Don't forget these guys own almost everything we know today as "the system" including the people who make this system work.

They own governments, they own money, they own coporations, they own armies, they own secret agencies, they own police force, and the list is long, so fighting them in an open field, it's guaranteed loss and waste of time.

Unless of course the whole of (which I doubt very much) humanity stands up at the same time.

[adbasque]

Oh I forgot to add that these guys are confirmed psychopaths!

[Volitzar]

Right the NWO is just a fabrication....  shut up !!!   

The NWO is real and the Saurians that David Icke talks about are real.

There are people on other world who confirms this stuff to Earth people.

[adbasque]

Voltizar, rule number one never try and force your beliefs on others, you are free to believe that there are other beings than humans and Jinns ruling the world, reptilians and so on, that is your belief, I am sorry but I do not share this with you.

Nobody is contesting the NWO and these psychopaths ruling our lives, but until I see proof of these reptilians, I prefer to live in a real world not in a world of fantasy.

But I will always keep an open mind that it is a possibility.
But you must learn to respect others and their beliefs and respect other's points of view.
nobody has all the answers, and David Icke is just a man therefore we are all susceptible, to mistakes and we all make errors.

What I believe is we probably know a max of 10% of the secrets, like the UFOs are made on this planet and hidden from the grand public, and there are other secrets and technologies that we never heard of or maybe never imagined, and they do exist.

Anyway until the day I see or meet one of these reptilians, I'd rather stick to what I can see and feel, and most important things, like how to stop these psychopaths from enslaving us forever and generations to come.

[Volitzar]

There is a thriving civilization on the planet Venus.  The humans on Venus protect Earth humans from Saurians.

It's not just David Icke but a lot of stuff has leaked out of Area 51 regarding exo-politics.

[UK Lyn]

When you have staying power like Alex, David, et. al....

it's amazing to watch these guys grow and evolve.

Some leaders can't handle the 'turns' as gracefully as Alex does....

I hear him clearly apologizing to David about his judgements from the past... on air....

I revisited this thread when it was just 'woke up', your comments are so true.

That's what I like about this man AJ as his knowledge grows, like a rough diamond in a gemstone tumbler, he almost seems to reshape himself each passing month.

He is man enough to admit his wrongs, and that appeals to me being somewhat (cough!) older than he is.. I cringe at the things I did or said when I was younger and less aware of the world and other people's live's.

If all this horrible NWO stuff turns to be won in our favor, I would really like to invite him and his family on a charter boat along with some sea-salt UK Infowarriors some summer, to haul some Scot's Cod from the North Sea depths over a few beers (heaven-on-earth for me). Same goes for the Watson bro's -truly unsung heroes of this movement. Maybe they'd get seasick tho' 

[Trutherx]

I was so glad to see Alex Jones and David Icke coming together. I really think David Icke is an interesting and insightful person. He might be right on even the alien thing. Chances are that if aliens wanted to take over, they wouldn't plant their mothership and start blasting us with lasers...they would probably use more stealthy means that would develop less resistent and would be more cost effective and would instead of destroying us, would turn us into slaves.

People tend to underestimate the likelihood of that scenario... and in my view, I've come to think that scenario is almost certainly going to happen once or twice or even multiple times over the course of history of a species, especially one with the numbers that we have recently developed. It takes resources and energy to kill, but it only takes brain power to influence and convert. As I've said before, I suspect slavery is quite rampant throughout the universe... it's all about slaves in the end and the power that they provide.

If a race of beings are technically advanced enough to visit us and don't understand peace, then what chance does humanity have?

[NinjaGaijin]

Glad to see that Alex is waking up!

Alex knows what's going on, he's just not silly enough to dip into the 'crazier' stuff , as there is no real point.

The enemy is each individual that believes the lies.

Defeating them is far more important than figuring out who the exact creature is at the top of pyramid.

Serious!!

FFS.

David Icke is DODGY AS.

[criticalunity]

Yes, but digging at the roots is important. - But people are ignorant about Aspartame & fluoride, EVEN the federal reserve, so I am not holding back on hte UFO & Alien issue, as you can see in the link in my signature.

WARNING: A staged invasion will take place VERY soon; Be aware of it, so you won't be tricked by it. - IT WILL BE STAGED!

[NinjaGaijin]

Totally agree that this needs to come out. I'm just saying, I think Jones loses credibility when he links to these people. He is fighting a different front.

Multilateral is the key..

Icke I just don't trust, but he does have a few good things to say.

As for the whole UFO thing.. I am in no way a skeptic.

If you haven't seen this...You haven't seen anything until now.
http://tracker.conspiracycentral.net/torrents-details.php?id=4579&hit=1
Jose Escamilla - Interstellar

[9/11FalseFlag]

Icke originnaly woke me up, and although he may dive into the UFO/Reptilian field, I really don't think he would intentionally spread disinfo, and I truly believe his heart is in the right place.

[Dudicus_Maximus]

I was so glad to see Alex Jones and David Icke coming together. I really think David Icke is an interesting and insightful person. He might be right on even the alien thing. Chances are that if aliens wanted to take over, they wouldn't plant their mothership and start blasting us with lasers...they would probably use more stealthy means that would develop less resistent and would be more cost effective and would instead of destroying us, would turn us into slaves.
People tend to underestimate the likelihood of that scenario... and in my view, I've come to think that scenario is almost certainly going to happen once or twice or even multiple times over the course of history of a species, especially one with the numbers that we have recently developed. It takes resources and energy to kill, but it only takes brain power to influence and convert. As I've said before, I suspect slavery is quite rampant throughout the universe... it's all about slaves in the end and the power that they provide.

Because we're aliens and you're not food yet. 

[NinjaGaijin]

i hate icke i think he's a douche.