Let's sort out this 'chemtrail' business

[Pupp]

Well, seems to me that chemicals and biological agents would *hate* to be spewed out in a jet exhaust, so can we assume they're sprayed from other nozzles on the plane?

If so, it should be easy to catch a twin-engined jet laying down 4 trails (2 contrails and 2 chemtrails).

So - set to it folks. A good camera with a stonkin' telephoto lens should easily find this evidence.

[Curious George]

Silly puppy, chemtrails are created in the combustion process from chemicals mixed in the fuel.

[s0cks]

While chemtrails may exist, I seriously doubt they exist on the scale that so many people believe. Every passanger jet liner is branded as chemtrailer everytime it produces long contrails. Thousands upon thousands are reported daily in the skies all over the world, mainly from below jet highways.

Do a search for just standard images of jetliners in flight and you will see many images of passenger jetliners with HUGE contrails (which many believe to be contrails). I posted these pictures in other forums showing images of planes from such companies as virgin airlines, indian airlines, canada air, and even british airways in the old concordes. The images were immediatly dismissed as "fake" or "docted" because it didn't adhere to their believes!

Clouds created from contrails are so massive in quantity that it can effect the ground temperature range by as much as 1-2 degrees. The common myth that contrails "dissappear" just after the plane, would suggest that non, or very little cloud is created contrary to what is known.

If anyone is doing this, it will likely be from military aircraft and on a much much smaller scale than many [want to] believe.

[covenantman]

Silly puppy, chemtrails are created in the combustion process from chemicals mixed in the fuel.

Out of curiosity, what kind of propulsion system do you think these planes use?
Pupp mentions "jet exhaust" but I have a problem with the notion that chemtrail planes are jets.
In my experience the two most salient features of a plane propelled by a jet engine are:
1) Very high speeds
2) Very loud noise

The chemtrail planes (at least the ones I see day in day out here in the UK) move almost imperceptibly slowly and are completely silent or, at least inaudible from the ground.
I have looked and looked but found no evidence on the internet that the "Silent Jet Plane" exists. The concept is being developed by MIT and  University Of Cambridge but involves a radical redesign of the aircrafts shape and is in any case, not expected to be in use in civil aviation until around 2030.
Does anyone know different? Has anyone actually heard these planes make a sound?
I would be interested to hear what you have to say.

[Marmalade]

There's definitely something different between contrails and chemtrails. I live in an area with a lot of plane traffic, and as an example of just ONE case I've seen where there have been two planes, traveling the EXACT same route, less than two minutes apart from each other. They were both the same airplane type (viewed through binoculars). One of them left a small contrail that disappeared. The other left a long, trailing chemtrail that hung in the atmosphere for at least the 15 minutes that I saw it, and I daresay even longer. I have been told that differences in atmospheric conditions apparently contribute to the formation or not of chem/contrails, but in such a small timescale that explanation wouldn't seem to have much weight. I did take a picture of it, but it's sadly low res and difficult to make out.

I've read a few pieces detailing the chemical compositions that have been sampled from chemtrails and analysed. The only page that comes to mind right now is http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/ctsuppressionhumanevolution29sep00.shtml although I've read other articles about it. Can't remember the links now though.

Whether the chemtrail 'problem' is overstated or not seems irrelevant - that it exists, and that these compounds might exist in the atmosphere, is.

Covenantman, I dunno what planes you're getting in your area of our island, but in my area the only time I hear planes is if they're from the nearby airfield. Any commercial planes are too high to be audible.

[s0cks]

There's definitely something different between contrails and chemtrails. I live in an area with a lot of plane traffic, and as an example of just ONE case I've seen where there have been two planes, traveling the EXACT same route, less than two minutes apart from each other. They were both the same airplane type (viewed through binoculars). One of them left a small contrail that disappeared. The other left a long, trailing chemtrail that hung in the atmosphere for at least the 15 minutes that I saw it, and I daresay even longer. I have been told that differences in atmospheric conditions apparently contribute to the formation or not of chem/contrails, but in such a small timescale that explanation wouldn't seem to have much weight. I did take a picture of it, but it's sadly low res and difficult to make out.

Even through binoculars could you easily tell the difference between a plane travelling at 20,000ft or a plane at 25,000ft? Could you tell the difference especially if one was a 737 and the other a 777 (both similiar shape, but the 777 being far bigger in size), which would scew your perception of height? It only takes a matter of feet to move into a different weather stream or cold/warm air pocket.

I mean, come on. There seems to be a basic lack of common sense with most conspiracy theorists.

However, I still agree with you that chemtrails exist. The more convincing reports I have involved sightings of low flying, unmarked aircraft, moving back and forth over the same airspace. This results in reported illnesses throughout the area after such "attacks". Its these sorts of stories we should be analyzing, not every tom dick and harry throwing up images of contrails in their backyards. Perhaps its because people can relate so closely to this conspiracy if all they have to do is look up and "see" it happening.

[Sees Things]

I've said it before and I'll say it again

if a tree falls in the forest and theres no one around to hear..
does it make a sound ?

the FAA the EPA and a whole bunch of other agencies deny
what we can see happening right in front of us...

but I think the only way the public will begin to get answers
is if some of these flights are knocked right out of the sky
then watch them scramble to cover up the mess.

if the flight never existed, how could it have been shot down ?
did this wreckage just suddenly magically materialize ?
you mean it was a flight that the FAA knows about but never admits ?
that ruptured tank of silvery goo isnt hazardous material ?
why are all the cleanup crew wearing space suits ?

I'm not advocating violence here really...
just my tongue in cheek ironic sense of imagination about "reality"
theres no north american union either right ?
(bastards!)

[other one]

Many of the pictures of chemtrails are really just contrails.  If you can catch the planes in the air doing the trails, you'll see that the chemtrails are actually visible just behind the engines or just to one side of the engine exhaust.   Regular contrails don't form until they are at or usually behind the tail of the plane. (it takes that long for the moisture in the exhaust to freeze and become visiable.

So if you see the trail about halfway between the engine and the tail, it may be a chemtrail....   but if it is behind the tail.....  well it's just moisture and it's making clouds.

There may be stuff there that is not visable, and that we'd never know was there.

S

[Marmalade]

Even through binoculars could you easily tell the difference between a plane traveling at 20,000ft or a plane at 25,000ft? Could you tell the difference especially if one was a 737 and the other a 777 (both similar shape, but the 777 being far bigger in size), which would screw your perception of height? It only takes a matter of feet to move into a different weather stream or cold/warm air pocket.

It might not be the most reliable but it is possible to roughly judge the relative heights of planes by how they're lit, how they interact with clouds, i.e. which planes they fly through, which obscure them, how complete, etc..  But no, I can't 'easily' tell the difference. I doubt anyone could.

However, it does seem odd that two planes, flying along the same flight path in similar atmospheric conditions, could leave such different contrails. And that the longer one, which stretched from horizon to horizon above me, would just hang there in virtually the same place for over a quarter of an hour without being blown away or dispersed.

I mean, come on. There seems to be a basic lack of common sense with most conspiracy theorists.

Assuming they can clothe themselves and walk in the street without being hit, I wouldn't say they lack common sense. Instead, they lack logic. But I suppose it all comes down to degrees of weirdness. Some people believe in aliens, reptiles, or whatever. Some people believe in God. Some people believe in an elite cabal controlling the world. Take your pick.

[s0cks]

Assuming they can clothe themselves and walk in the street without being hit, I wouldn't say they lack common sense. Instead, they lack logic. But I suppose it all comes down to degrees of weirdness. Some people believe in aliens, reptiles, or whatever. Some people believe in God. Some people believe in an elite cabal controlling the world. Take your pick.

Haha. True. Some can be proved more easily than others though. Some are more feasible than others. Like you said, you need a bit of logic. People even believe in things that are outside the bound of the laws of physics. You gotta sit back and absorb every side of the coin before you dive in - like I have done in the past.

[Marmalade]

People even believe in things that are outside the bound of the laws of physics.

Haven't you heard that laws are there to be broken?

[other one]

Assuming they can clothe themselves and walk in the street without being hit, I wouldn't say they lack common sense. Instead, they lack logic. But I suppose it all comes down to degrees of weirdness. Some people believe in aliens, reptiles, or whatever. Some people believe in God. Some people believe in an elite cabal controlling the world. Take your pick.

Hummmm,  maybe they are all right   

[TroyStone]

   logic tells me these are not f*cking Contrails.
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?z=3&c=4&n=1&w=4&x=0&p=14
 
 

[Grim]

Well, seems to me that chemicals and biological agents would *hate* to be spewed out in a jet exhaust, so can we assume they're sprayed from other nozzles on the plane?

If so, it should be easy to catch a twin-engined jet laying down 4 trails (2 contrails and 2 chemtrails).

So - set to it folks. A good camera with a stonkin' telephoto lens should easily find this evidence.

I disagree. I've seen jets spew chemtrails from two sources at one time. The two streams merge as one. You'll sometimes notice that chemtrails are a little thin in the middle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BH5QKFxXs

If anyone lives in the southern California area you'll no doubt have seen MANY chemtrails. I've often looked outside my window in the morning only to find that the sky is layered with 20 or 30 thick bands of stripes. They usually do it in mass on weekends.

[strgzr]

Alaska had what interestingly enough looked like chemtrails today. It's surprising it usually doesn't happen here. Maybe because there are so many private planes in the air here all the time, or not enough people to bother poisoning.

[Cruise4]

I don't know what to make of Chemtrails. But I used a telescope to look at 3 planes going over the UK yesterday, one behind the other. I recommend binoculars. All 3 planes had an orange strip on the tail. One was spraying a massive contrail/chemtrail. The others weren't leaving any trail. The sky had been criss-crossed that day.

Then the other day I saw a plane with a black line in front of it? I've heard of this but this was the first time I'd seen it. Optical illusion? This was a very strange sight, also leaving a normal chemtrail behind. And flying along the black line. Weird.

[Beelze-bush]

Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base (1992)
National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, Institute of Medicine

http://books.nap.edu/books/0309043867/html/459.html

Let us begin on page 459 of the National Academy of Sciences 1992 paper discussing geoengineering to mitigate the rapid rise of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere...

Cloud stimulation by provision of cloud condensation nuclei appears to be a feasible and low-cost option capable of being used to mitigate any quantity of CO 2 equivalent per year. Details of the cloud physics, verification of the amount of CCN to be added for a particular degree of mitigation, and the possible acid rain or other effects of adding CCN over the oceans need to be investigated before such system is put to use. Once a decision has been made, the system could be mobilized and begin to operate in a year or so, and mitigation effects would be immediate. If the system were stopped, the mitigation effect would presumably cease very rapidly, within days or weeks, as extra CCN were removed by rain and drizzle.

Several schemes depend on the effect of additional dust (or possibly soot) in the stratosphere or very low stratosphere screening out sunlight. Such dust might be delivered to the stratosphere by various means, including being fired with large rifles or rockets or being lifted by hydrogen or hot-air balloons. These possibilities appear feasible, economical, and capable of mitigating the effect of as much CO 2 equivalent per year as we care to pay for. (Lifting dust, or soot, to the tropopause or the low stratosphere with aircraft may be limited, at low cost, to the mitigation of 8 to 80 Gt CO 2 equivalent per year.) Such systems could probably be put into full effect within a year or two of a decision to do so, and mitigation effects would begin immediately. Because dust falls out naturally, if the delivery of dust were stopped, mitigation effects would cease within about 6 months for dust (or soot) delivered to the tropopause and within a couple of years for dust delivered to the midstratosphere.

Such dust would have a visible effect, particularly on sunsets and sunrises, and would heat the stratosphere at the altitude of the dust. The heating would have an effect on the chemistry of the stratospheric ozone layer, and this possibility must be considered before major use of such a mitigation system. The amount of dust to be added is within the range of that added from time to time by volcanic eruption, so the effects on climate would not be expected to go beyond those experienced naturally. However, either the natural or the artificial effects on the chemistry might be very serious under conditions of increased CFC chlorine in the stratosphere, and the result of having these effects continuously must be considered, so the option might not be usable. Better specification of dust characteristics and size for best effect and better data on the fallout rate of dust from various altitudes as well as on chlorine chemistry are needed. It will be important to observe the effects on stratospheric chemistry of any volcanic eruptions that occur, with special attention to separating the effects of dust, aerosol, and hydrochloric acid.

Of these systems to alter the planetary albedo, the increase of low-level marine clouds by increasing CCN and the delivery of dust to the stratosphere by using large rifles seem the most promising. The rifle system appears to be inexpensive, to be relatively easily managed, and to require few launch sites. However, the possible effect of the additional stratospheric dust on ozone chemistry may be a serious problem, and the noise of the rifles would have to be managed. Balloons also appear to be a good possibility, but the return of the balloons to ground level would require management.

Sunlight screening systems would not have to be put into practice until shortly before they were needed for mitigation, although research to understand their effects, as well as design and engineering work, should be done now so that it will be known whether these technologies are available if wanted.

Perhaps one of the surprises of this analysis is the relatively low costs at which some of the geoengineering options might be implemented. If, however, further analyses support the preliminary conclusions, it will bear further inquiry to decide if they can produce the targeted responses without unacceptable additional effects. The level at which we are currently able to evaluate the cost-effectiveness of engineering the global mean radiation balance leaves great uncertainty in both technical feasibility and environmental consequences. This analysis does suggest that further inquiry is appropriate.

[Kregener]

Growing up in Phoenix, I remember seeing many contrails across the sky. Always the same, water vapor trails going back perhaps a half mile behind the jet, then dissipating.

Today, there are certain days when Phoenix is CRISS-CROSSED with "chemtrails", that go on and on, from horizon to horizon, and do NOT dissipated,  but drift slowly downward as they spread out.

I have no idea just WHY that is, but in today's world, it cannot be good.

As for "hearing" the jets vs non-jets? You cannot hear anything when it is flying at 20,000 or above.

[Curious Conspiracy]

So, I wanted to know what the truth was about legitimate planes and legitimate contrails, before I researched CHEM-trails. I consulted a Mechanical Engineer, who specializes in Thermo-Dynamics. I asked him about the "pulsing" contrails that I assumed could not be natural. Here is his answer

...

“Contrails” do mean, in the vernacular, the wing-tip generated compression and decompression of the medium (air) that causes or allows the moisture to expand. 
It, as a phenomenon can occur anywhere.  There are pictures of jets at the supersonic speed where the threshold of pressure caused by the transition from below the speed of sound to above the speed of sound makes the “contrail” effect but it encircles the fuselage!.  Quite a cool sight!  I think they call it “Punching” or something like that…  It looks like a jet flying through a big fluffy doughnut!
Anyway, the pulsing of the “contrail” is due to variations in atmospheric pressure as it responds to the mechanical disturbance.  Whether it’s a bullet, a jet fuselage, or a wingtip, the mechanical compression of the moisture laden air allows the air/moisture package to cool – even for minute times – then at the end of the mechanical cycle (the wing passes, the air collapses behind the bullet, the fuselage profile changes…) the now cooler air/moisture expands – mechanically, remember – and the moisture is suddenly below the “dew point” where the Law of Standard Pressure and Temperature dictates that it condenses…  ala “Contrail”.
Now, when the surrounding temperature(s) do not have enough energy to replace the energy that originally kept the moisture “above the Dew Point” then it stays in its condensed form – ala Cloud!
Similarly, when the surrounding ambient is high enough in energy to replace the displaced energy, the “Contrail” disappears… sometimes the length of the Contrail relates to the temperature or energy level of the atmosphere where it is happening…
So, this is a fast description,. But I hope it helps, I gotta run…

PS.  the “Displaced” energy?  It’s sitting on the Wing, or the Bullet surface, or the fuselage…
And the ambient atmosphere where all this is happening, remember, is probably 30 degrees or less – at, what?  30,000 ft?
.....

A great description, I think, that shows Us what to look for. Look for Color, look for non-water substances, look for non-commercial jets, low altitude, or whatever else you think doesn't match the science above...

[Caught Up]

The first few posts to this thread sound like debunkers. Amazing. Given some basic information on the difference between 'contrails' and 'chemtrails' can people still be so blind?! Some time in 1990 I was in my backyard in England and noticed a plane leave a trail that persisted. Living near Heathrow airport at that time, I noticed that no other planes flying nearby were leaving a persistent trail. I think it was around this time this operation began in earnest. Worst still, isn't it amazing how we as humans rationalise things that are plainly not rational? Please see my new thread at http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=18919.0  I'd love to know what's really going on with this. Thanks.

[hellcatjr]

...

Mmm, I'd beg to differ. These photos were just taken yesterday (12/18/07), and I believe that this could easily lay down any of the skepticism out there.



and

[orangeblue]

Chemtrail terrorism is real and their blatant visible nature provides much more of an issue for the elites than any of their other current bioterrorism ops.  You can’t see the live cancer viruses in your vaccinations or the iguana DNA in your corn flakes, but all you have to do is look up anywhere on our planet to see the chemtrails.

I feel more of the public can be awakened by pointing out the chemtrail terrorism than anything else the elites are doing to us right now.  So, I’ve recently created this video that hopefully reaches people on an emotional level and spurs you to take action:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsPdyjSVOIk

Some of the postings on this thread and the many paid chem disinfo agents on YouTube proves that the elites are dead serious about trying to suppress the truth.  Controlling the weather and wearing us all down with the barium, aluminum oxide and biological agents in the trails must be one of the key pieces of their population subjugation plans.

If not, they wouldn’t risk all the attention that a global air force of 500 death planes brings them.  The elites realize this huge black op could reach critical mass awareness with just a few more MSM news stories or a viral Internet awakening.  But they are starting to lose the infowar because there has been a huge explosion of new YouTube/Google chemtrail videos and comments in just the last few months.

All the people that care for the future of humanity need to get well past the controlled “is it real” argument and focus on raising awareness to end this spraying nightmare.  So, email your local TV and print news media outlets now about what you see in your own sky.  Many of them have children that are also being hurt by this chemical warfare, so some of them will pay attention.

Just make sure your emails to your local reporters have a calm tone and raise questions about these strange clouds you are seeing.  I’ve had much more success with this type of gentle approach in my personal grassroots email campaign to news outlets.  You should also include links to the KSLA and NBC4 TV chemtrail news stories below to add credibility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIAWWL4HQDg

Thanks for your help in stopping global chemtrail terrorism now!

[kermitthefrayer]

From my experience here in New Mexico I can tell the difference simply by how fast they dissipate.  Jut the other day I convinced my co-worker.  There where two planes in the air on the con trial was dissipating pretty quickly so the trail was gone by the time the plane was out of the horizon.  The other plane how ever left a big fat chemtrail.  That instead of dissipating and disappearing simply hung out up there and got wider and thinner as whatever is in it dissipated into the air.

If you are watching the skies next time look for this phenomenon it was very east to tell the difference between you standard quickly dissipating contrail and the long lingering chemtrail.

[Caught Up]

Well, seems to me that chemicals and biological agents would *hate* to be spewed out in a jet exhaust, so can we assume they're sprayed from other nozzles on the plane?

If so, it should be easy to catch a twin-engined jet laying down 4 trails (2 contrails and 2 chemtrails).

So - set to it folks. A good camera with a stonkin' telephoto lens should easily find this evidence.

There is already plenty of video and photography out there that shows what you're asking for. In addition to this, it's apparent there are different ways this operation is carried out.

In response to orangeblue's video:

That's a good video and has the key elements necessary to raise awareness. If I could make one suggestion, it is that the voice-over which says 'chemtrails are terrorism' shouldn't be so loud and sudden, especially after complete silence. You yourself in your post suggest a gentle non-alarming approach. To those in denial or sleep, facing this subject is alarming enough. (I agree there is WAY too much alarmist stuff out there on google/you tube). But people are scared- see?

You are VERY right to suggest this operation is potentially harmful to everyone and we're all concerned for our children's welfare.

There are answers though to those worried about possible effects of chemtrails. Chiefly go to www.worldwithoutparasites.com leave your cynicism at home because we're talking about 'alternative medicine' here, and you have not only that websites' products but also some key words on the 'chemtrails' page to provide you with some things (you may need to make, or buy elsewhere) that will arm you and keep yourself and loved ones healthy. Many sites like that one get shut down, it's a fact. GB to all.

If anyone has more answers of this kind, please start a new thread showing answers for health concerns/things we can do to defend ourselves against chemtrials. This is one thing I find lacking, and which is actually people's greatest concern. (Please send me a private message so I know where to find it).

[Caught Up]

Cuttingedge.org did and excellent 3 part series on this topic, studying Weather Warfare.

http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1693.cfm
Title:  OCCULT THEOLOGICAL BASIS FOR HATING THIS INDUSTRIAL CIVILIZATION
Sustainable Development Series. Destruction of this Civilization -- Part 1

http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1694.cfm
Title:  WEATHER CONTROL AND WEATHER WARFARE
Sustainable Development Series. Destruction of this Civilization -- Part 2


http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1695.cfm
Title:  MAJOR DISCOVERY! MAPS OF DEADLY STORMS OF PAST YEARS CONFORMS GREATLY WITH THE U.N. MAP OF "RESERVE
AND CORRIDOR SYSTEM TO PROTECT BIODIVERSITY"!
Sustainable Development Series. Destruction of Industrial Civilization -- Part 3

[Caught Up]

For Jones fans out there (of which I'm certainly one) he interviewed Clifford Carnicom in July of 06'. Carnicom is the foremost researcher of this NWO op. Click here to listen to the interview (which is not archived on prisonplanet.com)

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/alex-jones-clifford-carnicom-interview-part-2-of-9/3333686414

This is part 2-of-9 and you're not missing anything. You'll have to open each part separately.

Regretably, Carnicom offers no solutions. Check here for health solutions: www.worldwithoutparasites.com

[Weston White]

I have never seen a passenger jet leave a chemtrail let alone a contrail, has anybody else?  Though I always see jets leave one of the two, though I rarely ever see contrails anymore, though saw them frequently until the early 90's, after that it is almost always chemtrails.

[Caught Up]

Why are people still speculating? Please check my links just posted or the Jones interview and let us know your comments.

[Caught Up]

Infact, I found a good link that has the whole interview in 1hr12mins at http://www.getuptospeedfast.com/audio/alexJones/alexJones_cliffordCarnicom.m3u

[Caught Up]

http://www.carnicom.com/

[Caught Up]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLTDw34E9Xw

[WideAwake]

Hi..
We live in North Norfolk in the UK..  we have noticed these trails over us since 2005, taking pictures/videos...
The number of trails have increased over the past couple of years 
Last year we decided to try and find out what these planes where.. we got in touch with our MP about the air pollution and what flight path etc we where under.

He came back to us and said he would get in touch with the relevant agencies to see what they had to say, a few months went by and then he sent us a reply. They said basically reading between the waffle that I should expect more flights over us as because of increased flight activity and there was no health risk to us!! (yea right!)

So we decided to get in touch with the CAA and ask them what flight path went over us. The person I spoke to was most helpful, directed me to a website that showed what flight paths etc went over where and interestingly where the military training zones are....

We are right under a Military Training Zone with no Commercial Flight Path... The planes that go over us are mainly White Planes that do not look like Military Jets.

After getting back in touch with my MP several times and after he saying we could meet with him to discuss "Air Pollution" we are still to meet with him, I started to write to him last May.. I will not give up though I am writing to him again asking why we haven't met him yet.

I have sent him about 6 pics of our skies which are covered almost everyday with these trails, also got some interesting footage of what seems like reflective particles coming down on us at night...

I will update you if I find anything out, but from experience of trying to find things out it is best to start with Air Pollution and the effects it is having on our health, the mess the trails leave behind and the vandalism of our skies... then when we meet with MP etc we will then tell him what we have found out about Chemtrails. Show him our videos of the planes and trails etc..

Also we got in touch with 2 of our local papers sending them pics and again only mentioning air pollution, they haven't got back or printed my letter... but I'm going to send all the newspapers the same letter/pics... worth a try but I am a realist and don't expect them to publish anything..  But I won't stop trying because this is such an important issue and I do think it is effecting peoples immune system and making us ill.

Whatever these trails are and contain I’m sure it can't be good for us!!!

Love Care and Freedom
Di

[WideAwake]

Also this is a video we took at night outside our house using a powerful torch.. any ideas what it could be?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvv9TGS22fA

[Caught Up]

WideAwake,

Thanks for posting and God Bless in your endevours for the truth of this crime against us.

[Damascus]

They dump fluoride waste in the water to dilute it. Why cant they dump other waist in the air to dilute it?

[HEX]

day. I've started carrying a camera on me most of the time now though. That's the most odd event I've seen involving chemtrails, but I see them in the sky all the time criss crossing... 

[Volitzer]

It's where Morgellon's Disease is coming from.

They spray and it'll live in a pH environment of 10.

That's the whole plot behind chemtrails.

[kermitthefrayer]

There is an add on Alex's show that says their drops raise the ph of your water to 10???

For the ph balance drops or what ever they are??

Any one have any more info on this?

[pogolina]

I've asked this in another forum and have yet to receive any feedback. Does anyone think that these chemtrails might have to do with project Bluebeam? Wouldn’t the elitist need particles in the sky so the hologram(s) could display? These chemtrails are happening all over the world….Why would they spray harmful chemicals in the sky when they’ve already poisoned us with fluoride in the water, toothpaste, chlorine in shampoo and soup, GMO foods, over the counter medicine ect…Isn’t it more likely that the chemtrails serve another purpose? 

[stymo1]

Check out these threads for starters, all chock full of info: 

http://archive.dailypicture.net/us_chemical_spray_plane___closeup__satellite_photographs.htm

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=63.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26603.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=369.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26635.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=5838.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=15554.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=6776.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=4363.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=15523.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=24746.0