BLAST FROM PAST: C-SPAN Blog during the original bailout (Patriots v. Traitors)

"People will not be able to borrow a dime"

Good!

Keep your fake monopoly money! Don't piss down my back and tell me it is raining you traitor!

He said it's a BAD CHOICE!!!!! BUT he's gonna vote for it ................. are these people wacked? Huh

Skull and bones member John Kerry, let me guess, traitor!

Quote from: independentWV on October 01, 2008, 04:45:46 PM

Yes, he is
This is my list to date:
Patriots
Vitter, Demint, Sanders, Dole, Wicker, Sessions, Shelby, Burr and Nelson (Bunning and Brown are possibles)

Traitors:
Corker, Dodd, Obama, Clinton, Reid, Mikulski, Biden, Kerry, McConnell, Conrad, Collins, McCain, Warner, Lieberman, Reed, Casey, Graham, Domenici, Menendez and Specter.

Unfortunately, there are MORE traitors than Patriots.

fear fear fear fear. Kerry is a traitor. Wonder if Heinz (his Wifes Company) is having trouble getting credit?

Quote from: NWOSCUM on October 01, 2008, 04:50:44 PM

fear fear fear fear. Kerry is a traitor. Wonder if Heinz (his Wifes Company) is having trouble getting credit?

lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycu6pAdeQT8

Skull and Bones member, tell us what the solution is.

Quote from: Sane on October 01, 2008, 04:51:22 PM

OMG the clock is set to 9:11.......................just kidding

This is going to be a giant propaganda play for the house to vote accordingly.

Insider From CFR Meeting Speaks Candidly About Obama & McCain Ties & Agenda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Yk8GZ5s7I&feature=related

Mel Martinez WTF? Traitor to constitution for no reason whatsoever (perhaps kick backs? hmmmm)

Barbara Boxer (CA) TRAITOR

Man, the Senate is definitely more blatantly in your face traitorous! Angry

Barbara Boxer bringing up Enron, WTF?

Then why payoff CEOs?

TRAITOR TO THE CONSTITUTION

When did the debate begin? I came in late because I actually had to work for the first time in a month today.

Our economy here in our town has been OK. Not booming, but not real bad.

Keep watching the traitors!

Ron Paul: Buying bad debt is the wrong solution
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/01/paul.qanda/
VIDEO: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/01/paul.qanda/#cnnSTCVideo

(CNN) -- Two days after the House rejected the $700 billion bailout bill, the Senate is set to vote on the rescue plan for financial institutions.

Rep. Ron Paul said he believes the $700 bailout bill will not solve the financial crisis.

The vote is scheduled for after sundown Wednesday.

Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama, and Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, all said they would be present for the vote.

Speaking to CNN's John Roberts on Wednesday, House Financial Services Committee member and former Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul discussed why he thinks the bailout bill is the wrong solution to the economic problem and what he would do to secure financial security.

John Roberts: Congressman, great to see you. I was browsing around on your Web site, Campaign for Liberty. And right there on the very front page, you are appealing to your supporters -- and there are tens of thousands of them -- to get in touch with key senators to tell them to vote this bill down when it comes to a vote in the Senate at sundown tonight.

Why do you want them to vote it down?

Rep. Ron Paul: I think it's a bad bill. I think it's bad for the taxpayers. I think it's doing more of the same thing. The same policy that we're following now with this bill is exactly how we got into that trouble. Video Watch Ron Paul explain why he opposes the bailout »
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And you know, I really don't have that much clout in Washington, D.C. And I recognize it. But there are a couple people outside of Washington that care about what I'm thinking and care about free market ... economics. And they will respond. And I think we did help generate a little bit of mail to the House members.

So you go where you can have the influence. And I think that people -- the grassroots -- understand this a lot better than members of Congress give them credit for.

Roberts: So, instead of the bills that are currently before the Senate, the one that may be before the House as early as Thursday, what would you do?

Paul: Well, we need to do a lot, but a lot differently. We have to recognize how we got into this problem. We have too much debt. We have too much malinvestment.

Roberts: OK, OK. So we recognize all of the things that got us here. But, right now, today, what would you do, if not this bill?

Paul: You have to liquidate those mistakes. Those mistakes were made due to monetary policy. So you have to allow the market to adjust prices downward. And that's what we're not allowing to do.

If there are too many houses and the prices are too high, the sooner we get the prices down to the market level, as soon as we quit trying to encourage more housing -- this is what we're doing. They're trying to stimulate houses and keep prices high. It's exactly opposite of what we should do.

So, we should get out of the way and not buy up bad debt. There's illiquid assets, but most of those are probably worthless. They're mostly derivatives. And we're sticking those with the taxpayer. So we have to recognize that the liquidation of debt is crucial. And if we did that, we would have tough times, there's no doubt about it, for a year. But if we keep propping a system up that's not viable, we're going to have a problem for decades, just like we did in the Depression. That's what we're on the verge of doing.

Roberts: Congressman Paul, what do you think of this idea that's being floated -- this process called mark to market, which would, they would modify the rules so that the, right now, paper that a lot of these institutions are holding, which is worth nothing, they would actually be able to assign some sort of value to it.

Some people are saying that that would just hide the problem. Other people are wondering if maybe that might create some sort of voodoo accounting that would allow widespread abuse in the system.

What do you think?

Paul: It demonstrates the problem. You know, when they prevented them from marking them down, this was an SEC [Securities and Exchange Commission] regulation. Shows how regulations backfire.

If you had a market economy and then if you had a market-adjusted FDIC, where insurance was based on the strength of the bank, this would have happened on a daily basis. But instead, we insure everybody, no matter what the bank is doing, and we do it, either we overkill -- we give you too much credit on bad investments -- and then we make changes all of a sudden, and they're drastic, to what they have done.

So, it's impossible. It's either too little or too much. And what you need is insurance of, FDIC type of insurance, has to be driven by the marketplace to measure the viability of a bank.

Roberts: So what do you think?

Paul: This adds to all the moral hazard that we have in the system.

Roberts: So what do you then think of this idea of raising the limit on [FDIC] insurance to $250,000, from its current cap of $100,000?

Paul: Well, on the short run it will calm the markets. People will feel better. I might even personally feel better for a week or two.

But I know that long term, it's the wrong thing to do. I opposed this in the early '80s when they went from 30 [thousand dollars] to 100 [thousand dollars], saying it would lead to more problems like this with malinvestment. It would cover over the mistakes. And the same thing will happen.

But if we raise it to 250 [thousand dollars], people are going to feel better, then it will keep the bubble going for a little while longer and putting more pressure on the dollar. If the dollar lasts longer, then finally the world will give up on the dollar -- and then we will have a big problem that nobody has even really begun to think about.

Roberts: A lot of people might hope that you're wrong with your projection.

Paul: I do too. I hope I'm wrong.
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Roberts: You tend to be right on these things on occasion, though. Dr. Paul, it's good to talk to you. Appreciate it.

Paul: Thank you.

Quote from: Improperlatin on October 01, 2008, 05:05:42 PM

When did the debate begin? I came in late because I actually had to work for the first time in a month today.

Around Noon - Mostly traitors bright spots were Demint and Sanders.

Mccain makes me want to puke. Why are we listening to him talk about anything finance/economy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZwL9GPcNw

These Monty suits are running out of excuses.

Quote from: PplVsNWO on October 01, 2008, 05:11:48 PM

Mccain makes me want to puke. Why are we listening to him talk about anything finance/economy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZwL9GPcNw

That garbage makes my blood boil. Just looking at him makes me want to vomit.

Senator Judd Gregg=Traitor/Liar

Guilty of economic terrorism

McCain is talking out his ass again. A one year spending freeze on everything besides defense, that sounds like a police-state power-play to me, to cause everyone to dump their money into the security infrastructure. What a douche, and a liar at that.

I sense that the masses are waking up to the financial NWO. I think something is gonna happen.

How can you debate a bill when there is no one in the Senate. In my administration, there will be a quorom of senators needed in session before a bill can be debated. Grin

I am sick of listening to these traitorous f**ks talk about how much we NEED this bailout bill. I wish they would just open the phone lines back up and let some reason stream back into the show. I see Maria Cantwell is halfish on our side...

Quote from: independentWV on October 01, 2008, 05:11:11 PM

Around Noon - Mostly traitors bright spots were Demint and Sanders.

Man, I didn't think I'd miss so much. From what I've read on the earlier posts, things aren't going very well? Well, I figured, it's the Senate...we've only been able to vote them in directly since 1913! I'm pretty confident that we can use the power of the vote to pressure the Reps (unless they just don't care). Even with a Yea tonight, we can defeat this piece of trash.

Maria Cantwell [D-Washington] - Patriot?
She's voting No...
Wants more though...

Dick Durbin, D - Illinois, coming in to say "I told you so". Possibly a wolf in sheep's clothing though.

f**k YOU DURBIN!!!!!!

Paulson initially attempted to grab power, he says, but I bet he'll say that that's all fixed now...

I saw on Lou Dobbs this bill will cost us another $150,000,000 making the new total $850,000,000!
WTF!!! This is a better plan?? Do we live in bizzaro world or what??!!

Nevermind, Durbin is voting for it. f**k off, Dick!

If he says that he doesn't want to vote for the Bill. Then don't vote for it. WTF, it isn't that f**king hard.

DUMP DURBIN!!!!!!

What a piece of shit.

What time does the vote start on this?

How dare Durbin not listen to my email. Looks like I'll be voting for anyone else.

"I would like to urge my colleagues to joint the rest of us giant douchebag traitors and pass this bill"- Dick
It at first sounded like he was going to say some truth and then turned around and supported the bill. Dickhead Durbin.