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Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns  File: The cargo ship MV Iran Deyanat, that was taken by Somali pirates last month. Tuesday, September 30, 2008 By Joseph Abrams As Somali pirates brazenly maintain their standoff with American warships off the coast of Africa, the cargo aboard one Iranian ship they commandeered is raising concerns that it may contain materials that can be used for chemical or biological weapons.Some local officials suspect that instead of finding riches, the pirates encountered deadly chemical agents aboard the Iranian vessel.On Aug. 21, the pirates, armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades, stole onto the decks of the merchant vessel Iran Deyanat. They ransacked the ship and searched the containers. But in the days following the hijacking, a number of them fell ill and died, suffering skin burns and hair loss, according to reports.The pirates were sickened because of their contact with the seized cargo, according to Hassan Osman, the Somali minister of Minerals and Oil, who met with the pirates to facilitate negotiations."That ship is unusual," Osman told the Long War Journal, an online news source that covers the War on Terror. "It is not carrying a normal shipment."The pirates reportedly were in talks to sell the ship back to Iran, but the deal fell through when the pirates were poisoned by the cargo, according to Andrew Mwangura, director of the Kenya-based East African Seafarers' Assistance Program. " Yes, some of them have died," he told the Long War Journal. "Our sources say [the ship] contains chemicals, dangerous chemicals."Iran has called the allegations a "sheer lie," and said that the ship "had no dangerous consignment on board," according to Iranian news source Press TV. Iran says the merchant vessel was shipping iron ore from a port in China to Amsterdam. The ship's contents are still unclear, but the reported deaths and skin abrasions have raised concerns that it could be more than meets the eye. The massive shipping company that controls the vessel, the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Line (IRISL), was recently designated by the U.S. Department of the Treasury over nuclear proliferation concerns. IRISL, which is accused of falsifying documents to facilitate the shipment of weapons and chemicals for use in Iran's missile program, is blocked from moving money through U.S. banks as well as from carrying food and medical supplies as part of U.S. trade sanctions against Iran. "IRISL's actions are part of a broader pattern of deception and fabrication that Iran uses to advance its nuclear and missile programs," said Stuart Levey, Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.The U.S. government has made no accusation against IRISL regarding the Iran Denayat; the State Department would not comment on reports of its suspicious cargo. "I don't have any information on that case," said State Department spokesman Curtis Cooper. "We're aware that there are currently 12 other hijacked ships off the Somali coast. This is obviously something that is disturbing." Experts on Somalia are dubious of claims made by the country's provisional government, whose president, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, reportedly has family ties to the pirates. "I'm not saying it's impossible that this has happened, but I'd take anything they say with a great deal of salt," said J. Peter Pham, director of the Nelson Institute for International and Public Affairs at James Madison University. "They have made fanciful claims before in the hopes of attracting U.S. and other international attention." Pham said that the 14 provisional governments that have ruled Somalia since 1991 have all relied on foreign aid for support and profit and could be trying to attract attention by inflating the current crisis. "Would it be beyond them to raise the specter of WMDs in order to attract resources and international assistance? The only source of revenue for this government is foreign aid," he told FOXNews.com. Chemical experts say the reports sound inconsistent with chemical poisoning, but may reflect the effects of exposure to radiation."It's baffling," said Jonathan Tucker, a senior fellow at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies. "I'm not aware of any chemical agent that produces loss of hair within a few days. That's more suggestive of high levels of radioactive waste."Tucker, a chemical and biological weapons expert, said that Chinese companies have been implicated in selling Iran so-called dual-use chemicals, legal ingredients that can be processed into chemical weapons. The U.S. government says that Iran maintains facilities to process those chemicals as part of a chemical and biological weapons program. "Iran continues to seek dual-use technologies that could be used for biological warfare," said Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell in testimony before Congress in February. But while Iran has purchased and shipped such chemicals in the past, it remains unclear whether the Iran Deyanat contains any illegal chemicals or harmful agents. "A number of Chinese companies have been implicated in this illicit trade, but I've never heard of extremely toxic chemicals being shipped," Tucker told FOXNews.com. "It's very rare it's very unlikely that a country would ship manufactured weapons from one country to another."
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 12:02:38 PM » |
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This sounds a lot like the reports that started coming out prior to the us invasion of Iraq, i.e. bs leaked to the media.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2008, 12:11:30 PM » |
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This sounds a lot like the reports that started coming out prior to the us invasion of Iraq, i.e. bs leaked to the media.
Yes, indeed. But what i find strange is what the article says about the "iranian" ship. On the day when the pirates seized the ship ive read that it was a ship from Ukraine. And maybe they are just making this stuff up about the chemicals, like the made that up with Iraqs nuclear weapons.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2008, 12:18:45 PM » |
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THE IRANIAN SHIP WITH WMD'S ONBOARD One more false Flag   ?
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 12:22:15 PM » |
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THE IRANIAN SHIP WITH WMD'S ONBOARD One more false Flag   ? Yep, that'd be my bet too.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 02:02:10 PM » |
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This is exactly like the first mission in Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare!
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 02:28:24 PM » |
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This is exactly like the first mission in Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare!
Except the ship wasn't sunk by MiG's, lol. Still the fact that this happened over a month ago is odd. "On Aug. 21, the pirates, armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades, stole onto the decks of the merchant vessel Iran Deyanat."
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 02:39:40 PM » |
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I was kind wondering my self..... man, how in the heck can there be so many Somalian Pirates in the world ........and then....... why?
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2008, 03:08:35 PM » |
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I smell a hint of pre-war BS!
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2008, 03:39:58 PM » |
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***BREAKING!!*** It has been discovered that onboard the Iranian ship seized by Somali pirates last month are: - The Secret to the Caramilk Cadbury Empire!
- Paris Hilton's virginity!
- The key to Osama Bin Laden's NYC greyhound locker!
- The crashed Roswell craft!
- Iraq's entire WMD program!
- Dick Cheney's conscience!
When contact by local media, the Loch Ness Monster's mother could not help herself by exclaiming, "Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr."
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 03:41:40 PM » |
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Cheney/AIPAC is pissed because this happened: Iran Resolution Shelved in Rare Defeat for AIPAC http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=13515
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 03:43:00 PM » |
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wait, this is the same fricking ship? oh man, they are so full of crap it is not even funny
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 03:56:27 PM » |
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i also heard it was Ukranian, also, why are there so many damn Somali Pirates? Is Somalia a large Pirate hangout?
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2008, 04:10:47 PM » |
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2008, 04:16:31 PM » |
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There's no end to what FOX News will put out. How do people still buy this shit?
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2008, 04:16:48 PM » |
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I have a feeling that this may be the idea that was settled upon in those meetings where Cheney thought it was a good idea to paint some PT boats,load them with weapons and Navy Seals and attack our ships! I guess that would be too obvious a false flag so they opted for this instead?
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2008, 04:18:19 PM » |
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LOL! Was Osama Bin Laden's wallet found with the cargo? Osama must be working with the Iranians to make and distribute WMD to use against us (because of our freedoms)  Please someone make it stop.....
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2008, 04:30:17 PM » |
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Some want this war so much that I don't doubt they will do anything to have it even to pose as some pirates of another country or to hire some to act as pirates so that they can have yet another excuse for war by claiming that there was something onboard that caused strange deaths of the pirates to charge Iran with WMD's! After what we have seen happen in the past with all the lies and manipulations for the war in Iran how could anyone doubt anthing they would do to get war with Iran too? I am highly suspicious of them as we all should be!
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2008, 04:34:12 PM » |
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Perhaps this the "Gulf of Tonkin" of the coming Iran war? It sure seems like propaganda. Especially when they said the pirates on board got sick form alleged chemical weapons. I need to go watch my copy of "Wag the Dog" and remember what happens next.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2008, 04:34:27 PM » |
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DO you guys remember this....  ? http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/31/world/middleeast/31gulf.htmlU.S.-Led Exercise in Persian Gulf Sets Sights on Deadliest Weapons By HASSAN M. FATTAH Published: October 31, 2006 ABOARD THE OIL TANKER BRAMBLELEAF, in the Persian Gulf, Oct. 30 — More than two dozen countries, including three gulf states, practiced intercepting and searching vessels suspected of trafficking in unconventional weapons in major military maneuvers on Monday that emphasized their coordination and willingness to aggressively block the spread of arms. The daylong exercise, about 20 miles outside Iranian territorial waters, seemed to signal to Iran, too, that a coalition of Western powers and neighboring states was intent on denying it access to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, even on its doorstep.“The message is clear,” said William T. Munroe, the American ambassador to Bahrain. “Responsible countries of the world will not stand aside as proliferators circumvent their international obligations. Responsible countries will not hesitate to deny proliferators a safe haven.” American officials insist that the training exercise, planned since January, was not related to tensions over Iran’s uranium enrichment activities. Iran said Friday that it had stepped up enrichment in defiance of a Security Council demand to suspend such work. “This is ultimately important because of where it’s happening, when it’s happening and why it’s happening,” said a diplomat observing the exercise, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment. “Iran and Korea are two main targets, but there are many others of interest to this effort.” Iran warned the exercise’s participants on Monday against acts that could destabilize the region. Military officials taking part in the exercise said that Iranian patrol boats came close to coalition ships in recent days, inspecting their activities and positions. “We do not consider this exercise appropriate,” Muhammad Ali Husseini, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, told reporters on Sunday. United States actions in the region “go in the direction of more adventurism, not of stability and security,” he said. Instead, Iran has proposed that Persian Gulf states form a group, excluding the United States, to maintain security in the region. The exercise on Monday was the first training maneuver in the Persian Gulf under the Proliferation Security Initiative, an American-led effort that seeks to coordinate and develop procedures for intercepting smugglers of unconventional weapons. It was also notable for the involvement of Bahrain, and support by Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, which sent observers. The operation began last week with war games to practice intelligence cooperation, then moved to the exercise at sea, which included Australian, British, French and Italian warships and three Bahraini frigates. Sailors from the Italian and Bahraini Navies swooped onto the British oil tanker Brambleleaf in the choppy Persian Gulf waters, their machine guns waving in a scene that was half show, half test. Each team combed the ship’s hold for almost two hours until they found a hidden simulated nuclear detonator. Absent, however, were Saudi Arabia, a power in the Persian Gulf, and China. Officials involved in the Proliferation Security Initiative said that many states that had not signed on were largely concerned about legal aspects of the initiative. Technically, teams conducting searches under the initiatives can board a ship only if given clearance by its owners or crew. Ships with no flag can be boarded at will. Organizers of the maneuvers said they hoped the exercise would convince those still on the fence of the legality of the initiative. The initiative, first proposed by President Bush in May 2003, has held 24 other training exercises in Europe and Asia in the last three years. Basically of the U.S. hires "Pirates" to take over a vessel the U.S. can board the ship.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2008, 04:45:57 PM » |
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youtube: Pirates and Emperors - Schoolhouse Rock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBWGo7pef8
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2008, 04:53:20 PM » |
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The Iran Deyanat does appear to be an Iranian ship. Here's the ship's details. http://www.wellandcanal.ca/salties/i/irandeyanat/deyanat2.htmI think a lot of ships have been captured near Somalia recently, and the Ukranian ship was the one with all the tanks aboard. However, the photo on the Fox News page does not look to me like the Iran Deyanat.
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2008, 04:55:17 PM » |
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Basically of the U.S. hires "Pirates" to take over a vessel the U.S. can board the ship.
Yahtzee!!! you hit the nail on the head iridium. Next we WILL find some toxin or something.. and if thats not enough we will hear more fear mongering about how we can be attacked with some of this stuff..... YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THIS SH!T UP FOLKS !!!
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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2008, 04:58:34 PM » |
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The Iran Deyanat does appear to be an Iranian ship. Here's the ship's details. http://www.wellandcanal.ca/salties/i/irandeyanat/deyanat2.htmI think a lot of ships have been captured near Somalia recently, and the Ukranian ship was the one with all the tanks aboard. However, the photo on the Fox News page does not look to me like the Iran Deyanat. I was wondering about those Rooskie tanks myself as I was reading the article.
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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2008, 05:05:56 PM » |
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History repeats itself.
911, wt7, the pentagon...!!!!!!!!!!!! INside involvment.
Iraq: WMD's, Yellocake, Taliban support.!!!NONE
Russia: Invades Georgia, ya OK...!!!Georgia invaded and killed.
Bushy needs 700 Billion for his CIO's.: Sure he does, and all his cohorts.
Yellow alert, red alert, FEAR...Pavlogs dogs had it better at least they ate.
Homeland security, protect America and domestic spying. !!SHAM
Doesn't this ring bells, how many lies upon lies can we swallow.
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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2008, 06:05:22 AM » |
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For some unknown reason FOX never again mentioned this incident !!! quote http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.htmlMysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns  File: The cargo ship MV Iran Deyanat, that was taken by Somali pirates last month. Tuesday, September 30, 2008 unquote They were probably instructed by the Pentagon to leave this False Flag for later use........
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« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2008, 06:16:48 AM » |
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Russia Today has an article on this ship questioning why the US Navy should have any interest in this boat. Anyway I posted the Russia Today article on the board yesterday.“ The fact that US ships were dispatched for the first time to the area where a Ukrainian vessel was seized only proves our information that it could also be carrying unregistered cargo on it - probably to be sold to third parties. We're now trying to investigate it,” Konovaluk said. Did you digest that ? http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=62182.0
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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2008, 06:32:23 AM » |
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I just corrected my todays post where my intention was to refer to the Iranian Ship !
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_on_re_af/af_kenya_piracy_watchdog_arrest;_ylt=Arc_D6oFXVcA.Hyiwfi1KRtvaA8F MOMBASA, Kenya - Kenyan police have arrested a maritime watchdog official on suspicion of criminal activity just days after the official gave reporters sensitive information about a hijacked arms freighter off Somalia's coast. Coastal province police chief Kingori Mwangi says police detained seafaring expert Andrew Mwangura on Wednesday night. Mwangi did not specify what laws Mwangura may have broken. Mwangura heads the Mombasa-based East Africa Seafarers Assistance Program and is a key source of information for journalists on pirate attacks off East Africa's coast. Mwangura was the first to say publicly that the tanks and weapons aboard the recently hijacked ship were headed for Sudan. Kenyan officials insist the armaments are theirs. “The shipment of 33 Russian-designed tanks, rifles and ammunition onboard the Ukrainian-operated Faina was headed for Sudan, not Kenya as previously claimed,” Deputy spokesman for the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet, Lt. Nathan Christensen said. Andrew Mwangura, head of East African Seafarers' Assistance Programme in Mombasa, which closely monitors piracy in the region, said that the Faina's manifest showed merely that she was carrying cargo weighing 2,320 tonnes.
He said that Ukrainian ships had twice offloaded heavy weaponry, including tanks, at Mombasa port in recent times, but that the hardware had been transferred to south Sudan, which is holding on to a fragile peace after ending a 20-year civil war with the Khartoum government in 2005. The claim could not be independently verified. So Kenya another US puppet state is arresting and muzzling people for stating exactly what the Deputy spokesman for the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet has already admitted.We have Ukrainian ships transporting Russian weapons surrounded by American warships.BUSTED!.
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2008, 06:38:07 AM » |
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Somali rebel chief advises pirates to sink arms-laden ship if ransom isn't paid By Agence France Presse (AFP) http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=96432#Friday, October 03, 2008  MOGADISHU: Somali Islamist insurgents on Thursday urged pirates holding a Ukrainian ship carrying military hardware to destroy the cargo and the vessel if they are not paid ransom. As US warships and other navies blockaded the MV Faina off Somalia's Indian Ocean coast, the pirates have insisted on being paid $20 million to release the cargo and the 21-member crew. "If they do not get the money they are demanding, we call on them to either burn down the ship and its arms or sink it," Sheikh Mukhtar Robow, a spokesman for the Shabab movement, said in an interview. But Robow said his movement, which is gradually gaining ground over interim government troops in southern Somalia, was not linked to the pirates who seized the Belize-flagged freighter last week as it headed for Mombasa in Kenya. "We have no contacts and links with the pirates and they are in the waters for their own interests," he said. "It is a crime to take commercial ships but hijacking vessels that carry arms for the enemy of God is a different matter," added Robow, whose group nearly stamped out piracy when it ruled southern Somalia last year as part of an Islamist government ousted by Ethiopian and interim government forces in early 2007. Robow claimed that the 33 Soviet-era T72 battle tanks and other military hardware on the MV Faina belonged to Ethiopian forces, who invaded at the behest of the Somali interim government to oust the Islamists from power. "We believe that the military shipment belonged to Ethiopia and was headed to Mogadishu seaport, where it would have been unloaded with the intention of destroying Somalia, but that never happened," he said. Earlier in the week, the pirates said the arms were headed for Sudan. The Ukrainian owners of the freighter and Kenyan government said the tanks were destined for Kenya. The US Navy has vowed to prevent the pirates from offloading the arms, but Robow said his movement would not mind getting hold of them in a bid to boost its campaign against soldiers from Somalia and Ethiopia. "The Ukrainian ship is loaded with military hardware that is very important for our holy war against the enemy of God and it would ... change the war in Somalia if that military shipment falls in our hands," he said. The number of pirates currently operating off the coast of Somalia, with backing concentrated in the northern breakaway state of Puntland, is believed to be upward of 1,000. Most of them are former coastguard employees. London-based think tank Chatham House said in a new report that on piracy in Somalia that the "total ransom payments for 2008 probably lie in the range of $18-30 million." - AFP
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