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« on: September 21, 2008, 01:54:58 PM »

Not a bad read, short and to the point:

http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2008, 08:02:18 PM »

Good material, kevlar (pun intended)!

There are a few sheriffs around the country who have woken up and realized that they have the power and authority to send the Feds packing: GTFO or go directly to jail. I also agree that the State Police have overstepped the limits of the Constitution. Sheriffs are elected and accountable to the People. All of the rest are unelected and are a threat to liberty.

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2008, 01:22:28 AM »

Nice  Smiley  -Yeah the part about "police as a standing army" got my attention.  I often wonder how willing the police will be to oppress the general public when the dollars they are being paid are worthless. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2008, 02:45:04 AM »

Technically, cops are constitutional as any powers not granted to the federal government in the constitution are left to the states and local governments.

The cops are supposed to protect us from the feds.

This is why Alex always talks about the federalization of the local police.  It would be anti-constitutional to federalize the police.  And why he says it's the feds who are coming to get you, because they aren't authorized by the constitution.  They are the thug army of the bankers who have set up criminal (anti-constitutional) organizations in the federal government.  Criminal Justice System… if it was good guys putting bad guys in jail, then that would just be regular justice.  But we have the federal Criminal Justice System, because it is set up and run by criminals for their version of justice.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2008, 07:45:26 PM »

All powers not specifically delegated to the federal government are reserved to the People, or to the states, respectively.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 05:14:09 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_powers

they try to get around it with the department of interior, thats whats unconstitutional. it allows state and local cops to trump county (sheriffs) officials who are constitutional.

technically.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 05:23:07 PM »

if i fail at becoming president and i probobly will then i will try being a cop unless they are federalized.....then i'm gonna beat the hell out of drug dealers

they already are federalized, thats why we got rent-a-ranger
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 05:31:05 PM »

if i fail at becoming president and i probobly will then i will try being a cop unless they are federalized.....then i'm gonna beat the hell out of drug dealers

All drug dealers, or just some drug dealers?
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 06:46:34 PM »

Technically, cops are constitutional as any powers not granted to the federal government in the constitution are left to the states and local governments.

The cops are supposed to protect us from the feds.

This is why Alex always talks about the federalization of the local police.  It would be anti-constitutional to federalize the police.  And why he says it's the feds who are coming to get you, because they aren't authorized by the constitution.  They are the thug army of the bankers who have set up criminal (anti-constitutional) organizations in the federal government.  Criminal Justice System… if it was good guys putting bad guys in jail, then that would just be regular justice.  But we have the federal Criminal Justice System, because it is set up and run by criminals for their version of justice.

That is correct--Sheriffs are Constitutional.  The Sheriff is supposed to be the highest order in law enforcement. They are supposed to be the head of militias in every state too.  They were also the ones to collect the taxes as well.

The Constitution has been ignored and will continued to be ignored unless the people understand it and rise up against it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 08:44:06 PM »

the ones i come in contact with or have orders to go find.i'll do my best not to kill em everyone deserves a trial

what happens if your boss hog copper tells you you have to smuggle drugs. if you get caught will you get a fair trial.

beyond that.. how do you think you would be treated in jail?
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 08:58:04 PM »

i always have a sound recorder in my pants so unless they strip search me i'm good. that guy would get snitched on then if all posible get shot in the foot

me in jail.........not so good

thats what happens to the jackboot. lol. you might wanna start with the dealers in the cia, but cops dont have the authoritahy.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 09:06:47 PM »

hmm join the cia.......am i smart enough for that.hmmm i wonder

i hope smarter, even the fbi is full of shitheads. either way the cia isnt constitutional either soooo thats rather the opposite of smart...
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 11:50:21 PM »

The Constitution has been ignored and will continued to be ignored unless the people understand it and rise up against it.

What does that say about the judges, politicians and lawyers who are all supposed to be the experts on the law?
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2008, 06:59:21 AM »

What does that say about the judges, politicians and lawyers who are all supposed to be the experts on the law?

Not much.  There are a handful of good Constitutional judges out there--but only the few and far between, I am afraid.  Lawyers?  REAL constitutional lawyers are nearly extinct.  Of course I do not only blame them, the American citizen cannot be like Lady Justice--blind to the history of this country and blind to the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

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