Chemtrails in Liverpool

[d444]

Hey everyone, I don't really like posting on forums and stuff but today I've been watching as chemtrails are sprayed all over Liverpool in England.  I live in a flat in the city centre which gives me an amazing view of the sky that goes on for miles and I watched this morning as several planes coming from the west of me (Our commercial airport is to the east) left what was definitely chemtrails all day which have now formed what looks like a giant cloud over the city, other trails left have formed thin grey-ish clouds.  I was just wondering if anyone else in the Liverpool area had seen this and maybe even taken photos or videos?  I don't have a camera or anything so couldn't take any pictures.

[GlobalCordon]

Hey man im in wallasey and i point the chemtrails out everyday to people. I was looking at them just this morning over liverpool bay.......
But apparently im a "Conspiracy nut" and they are harmeless contrails from jets..... Yea sure at 4,000 feet? nope!

[d444]

Yeah did you see them?  Thats the ones I was on about, they just released some about half an hour ago too which has added to that giant 'cloud' thats there right now.. do you have any idea where the planes are coming from?  Its definitely not John Lennon airport, cause i've seen a couple coming from that direction too which haven't left any trails in the slightest

[GlobalCordon]

Go have a look early morning, they seem to blast the skies befour 11-12am. Freaky shit. I was working birkenhead today and they skies where plasterd with them. Im gonna i.m u my email address and if you wanna meet up to gather some photo evidence or just for a whine with a fellow truth seeker then drop me a line.

[GlobalCordon]

They seem to be the jets flying over the city and not using JL Airport. I see planes spilling filth at lower altitudes than planes far above them spewing nothing.

[d444]

yeah thats exactly what i've seen all day, and why are the planes not making any noise when they're so low down its insane.. i can't figure out where they're coming from either, its either somewhere on the wirral or north wales, but they seem to fly right across the city centre

[GlobalCordon]

I would imagine its long haul flights over the NW from heathrow or beyond as take off flights from liverpool spewing shit would be to obvious!!!!!!

[GlobalCordon]

Well as facts go Contrails (water vapour from fuel) forms ice crystals above 18,000 ft and disperse usualy within 30 mins so anything below that height is a chemtrail and dodgy. So if you see a very low trail start to worry. 

[cally]

 I am in the Bootle area and have been watching the spraying going on for months.  I can't believe how blind people are. I dont know if this is the right place to post  picture but I will anyway .  Look at the third one. How can anyone say thats a vapour trail?

[cally]

Sorry about that Admin. http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/carly1752/UntitledAlbum#

[phasma]

Hey everyone, I don't really like posting on forums and stuff but today I've been watching as chemtrails are sprayed all over Liverpool in England.  I live in a flat in the city centre which gives me an amazing view of the sky that goes on for miles and I watched this morning as several planes coming from the west of me (Our commercial airport is to the east) left what was definitely chemtrails all day which have now formed what looks like a giant cloud over the city, other trails left have formed thin grey-ish clouds.  I was just wondering if anyone else in the Liverpool area had seen this and maybe even taken photos or videos?  I don't have a camera or anything so couldn't take any pictures.

Hi - Formby here and I see the same thing - the planes fly in from the direction of wales - iv`e seen them from the beach here.
So many of us from such a close area - we should all make a group or something, what do you all think? also have you noticed the grey / black trails? any thoughts on those?

[cally]

 I was in Formby two Sundays ago  and couldn't believe the spraying going on there .We have to do something  because everyone is asleep  and I can't sit here  watching them anymore .
Does anyone think they are spraying at night now and getting sneaky now it is starting to be noticed.
I ve seen the grey and black trails. I assume it is even more deadly chemicals .

[phasma]

I was in Formby two Sundays ago  and couldn't believe the spraying going on there .We have to do something  because everyone is asleep  and I can't sit here  watching them anymore .
Does anyone think they are spraying at night now and getting sneaky now it is starting to be noticed.
I ve seen the grey and black trails. I assume it is even more deadly chemicals .

Sure Cally, they have been spraying at night - you could clearly see them the night the full moon was high and there was no cloud, they would i think because too many people are noticing them now - or they are doing it for some reason  of their own that we have no hope of understanding. . .
Damn right we should do something - but what? The dark trails worry me though i have to say i don`t see too many of them compared to the normal white trails - could be they are slowly implementing the grey trails or could be some problem in their system - maybe they over heat? was thinking to mass produce flyers or something to let people know what they are doing but of course that will not stop them. . mass petition maybe? march? or something else?
Does everyone here know about hushmail? Its free and all mail sent between accounts is automatically pgp encypted / decrypted - a useful tool indeed.

[cally]

This  has been bugging me since  I read it a while ago. Looks like Liverpool is a stain that needs wiping out.
We are a hotspot for Lyme Disease already ,although you can't get NHS treatment for it because Theres no Lyme Disease in Liverpool . . Then theres all the UFO sightings recently ....


Abandon Liverpool


REGENERATION in Liverpool should be abandoned and thousands of its residents told to move south, according to David Cameron’s favourite think tank.

A report published today says housebuilding in Merseyside should be scrapped and the planned 3m new houses in the UK should all be built in London, Oxford and Cambridge.

And one of its authors expects Liverpool to lose half of its population over the coming years as workers are lured to London or the “regional hub”, Manchester.

It also recommends a liberalisation of planning laws to allow London’s high-value industrial land to be turned into housing for the millions due to desert the North.

Asked what is wrong with Liverpool, Dr Leunig added: “People aren’t starving, but you’re quite a lot poorer than the rest of the UK and you’re not closing the gap and that’s with a lot of regeneration funding.

“I think there could be hard times yet for Liverpool. Don’t get me wrong, I wish I was wrong.

Because “a decade of regeneration policies has failed to stop the inequality of opportunity” between cities like Liverpool and the South East, Government handouts should also be scrapped or reformed.


Last night co-author Dr Tim Leunig said: “No doubt some people will claim that these proposals are unworkable, unreasonable and perhaps plain barmy.

“But if (Liverpudlians) want to be as prosperous as the average person in the UK, then they would have to move.
Dr Leunig, who said he couldn’t remember the last time he visited Merseyside, advised a moratorium on building homes in the region.

He said: “You don’t really want to be building additional houses in Liverpool – that’s not sensible.

As for the Capital of Culture boost, Dr Leunig said although the city centre “looks great now, I wonder, in five years’ time, how many of these things will still matter”.

Full Article http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/08/13/unknown-100252-21523712/

[phasma]

I guess its alot to do with the mindset of many up here!
I moved out into formby and i already see a lot of attitude differences - plus theres more land.
Wouldn`t move down south though - and would avoid big cities like the plaugue - If crackdowns happen it`ll be in those places first !
What we gonna do about these chemtrails?
I reckon any city where the population might fight back (in either the literal sense or not) are hit most often. I think these things have a dumbing down effect - they make people lazy / tired / apathetic. I do spend a reasonable amount of time down south though and I have to say the sky over london is just as bad if not worse than here!

[cally]

This is off topic but it concerns Liverpool. Merseyside  police arresting two activist for protesting peacefully were blocked in for an hour by members of the public .
The protest ,for freedom of speech I think,goes on every in the city center every Saturday apparently. It might be a good place to start

http://dotconnectoruk.blogspot.com/2008/10/merseyside-police-arrest-number-of.html

It is dumbing everyone down so how do you  wake them up before its too late ?It probably is already as they have been spraying us for a while judging by  this video on u-tube .The worst I've seen anywhere .

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GXBHjU6ZSvY

[phasma]

eek ! yup thats pretty bad.
So far as I gave been able to see they haven`t sprayed today or yesterday (as far as i can tell they dont do it when its mega windy like it has been) go outside and breathe some freshair!
Wind will die off tonight so i am willing to bet here and now that the skies will be full tomorrow - if you get up real early you can catch them still spraying before it gets light (for those outside uk it doesn`t get light here now until a while after 7 am).
I have been trying to research flight paths nd so far as i can see all major flights over this area from ireland and the US pass over us in an northwest to south east direction (mostly) which is roughly the direction the river mersey flows. Any outside this are suspect. .
Anyone know where i can get hold of flight maps or maps that show the direction planes fly in my area or around uk? Not had much luck so far. . .
I figure if we can get these maps and these planes are not flying on the routes that they should be then we will have a stick (all be it a small one) to beat the aviation authority and local government with. .
Any Ideas anyone?

[phasma]

They are at it again ! have been since about 5 am
low clouds moving in now from the east so i cant see much anymore . . . they didn`t spray here (formby) last few days as i suggested they never do when its windy - that means when those gales hit us tomorrow we should be clear!

[phasma]

WoW ! Are they ever going for it today . . . my skies almost full already! How is it near you all?

[phasma]

WoW ! Are they ever going for it today . . . my skies almost full already! How is it near you all?

I can never get the photo upload to work on here so here is a link to todays pictures
http://www.geocities.com/phasma@ymail.com/page1.html

[cally]

Good  Pictures Phasma.I saw the night time ones last week . My cameras not good enough to get a decent picture though.
I've just found a Yahoo site called Liverpool Chemtrails Aware .
[url]http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Liverpool_Chemtrail_Awareness_Group/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups&sec=group&slk=1[url]

I can't get the link to work sorry . Paste it 

[phasma]

Thanks for the link - will go check it out now. . . bit cloudy here today can`t see much of anything.

[dsyd]

How do you tell how high the trails are (to be able to tell whether it could or could not be just an ordinary contrail)?
I'm from the East Midlands btw, but quite a rural area so haven't seen any chemtrails round here.

[phasma]

How do you tell how high the trails are (to be able to tell whether it could or could not be just an ordinary contrail)?
I'm from the East Midlands btw, but quite a rural area so haven't seen any chemtrails round here.

Hi, As far as I can tell they spray at different altitudes depending on the barometric pressure for the day (I`m trying to collate info and look for correlations - not quite there yet though)
Most people here put them at around 18,000 feet usually way below normal jet cruising altitude of around 30,000 ft (or higher).
You can be sure the trails are chem trails not con trails by observing one or more of the following:
- a trail that persists in the wake of an aircraft for more than 2 minutes (con trails will disprerse in this time)
- a trail that expands from its original size to form a well spread out sheet that may merge with other trails turning the sky hazey / milky white
- a trail that sinks down over time - you may see fibres / particulates
- formations of non standard form including paralell lines, crosses, tic-tac-toe grids etc
As far as i know they like to spray over heavyily populated centres more than most places - (? because there are more people) but i have also seen these trails in very rural places such as over snowdonia, scottish highlands, peak district etc.
I guess they have / are spraying over you but you didn`t realise what you were seeing ?