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« on: July 31, 2008, 01:29:02 PM »

I would sure like to hear people weigh in on the statements of Ted Nugent on Jones' show. This is my take on it.


The show with guest Ted Nugent was terrific and enlightening as usual, but then it is the Alex Jones Show. I must admit that I do not much care who is on as a guest, although Jones certainly books some of the best and brightest. But the fact is that I have never met anyone, nor heard of anyone, who so completely illuminates the truth as Alex Jones does, and the main reason why I listen to his show is because it is the only true “no spin zone” on the planet that I know of (and I know plenty). Alex contains much this worlds universally benevolent courage and wisdom intrinsically burned into his very soul, and is one of the most realistic humans I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing. He is a gift to all humanity and a true American that many people should gladly aspire to emulate. He says things I have ONLY heard come out of my own mouth.

Ted Nugent’s views on gun control and the inherent responsibility of all American’s to contribute daily to the oversight of government in this nation, and protect and defend her from all enemies foreign and domestic were truly refreshing and I commend him on his courageous words. Unfortunately, when given the opportunity to prove that he really believes in freedom and liberty for all in response to a caller to the Jones Show, who asked Nugent would he use his power as a sheriff’s deputy to arrest and send him to prison for growing Cannabis, the sixty year old rocker failed miserably

Suddenly Nugent began nearly foaming at the mouth and grunting “die hippie die”, saying things like Marijuana causes people to just lie around in a stupor doing nothing all day long like a bunch of degenerates. His statements could not be further from the truth, and they prove that he is only interested in HIS “brand” of freedom, not true and inalienable freedom and liberty for all. His divisive viewpoint is what begins a society on the road to tyranny. Disabusing citizens of their rights as humans and claiming that they are “the problem” (in a world dominated only by "solutions"), because they exercise their free will to consume an herb of the fields of this nation, which he claims god created, is maniacal and narrow minded. He has been watching too many cop shows, and is a complete hypocrite if he, or anyone in his family, uses pharmaceuticals, or ever has a shot and a beer, among other things. The true issue here is the nature of abuse of substances and the fact that this nation literally incubates and coddles drug and alcohol abusers…purposely destroying people for monetary gain by exploiting their human nature and intrinsic, and certainly inalienable, human frailties.

I have a brother who is one of the most law abiding and respectable people I know, and he smokes pot constantly…from the time he wakes up until he goes to sleep. In complete contrast to Nugent’s predication, my brother is also one of the hardest working people I know. He is difficult to keep up with. He works from dawn to well after midnight…and up at dawn again, “eight days a week”. I myself use Cannabis medicinally, and legally in my state, and the benefits are unmatched on this planet, with absolutely no side-effects. Moreover, I can hardly count the times I have sat back at the end of the work day with a nice relaxing “doobie” and experienced the calming effects, and slight shift in viewpoint which enabled me to realize missteps and otherwise invisible errant communications and mistakes of the day; then allowing me to understand, apologize for, and correct them. The demonic propaganda waged against Cannabis was for inhumane and nefariously oppressive, and greedy exploits, and history has proven that. Which makes Ted Nugent’s intolerant and divisive statements just that much more alarming.

Cannabis was, for over a century, the main ingredient in over 80% of all pharmaceuticals, with no side effects, and certainly nobody dying from them. The all out war on Cannabis and its red headed sister, Hemp, has done much to destroy this country and divide it in ways that allowed precedent to be set, literally enabling this nation to be eventually brought to its knees under the current tyrannical and despotic administration. Demonizing people for a freedom of choice issue (or anything else for that matter) sets a society on an extremely pervasive and corrupt course that will grow exponentially like a cancer. Outlawing Hemp in this nation has set technology and environmental progress nearly back to the dark ages, and drug laws in America have done much to contribute to the rampant availability of, and lucrative draw for, the really hard drugs like Cocaine, Heroine and Crystal Methamphetamine. Henry Ford built a car completely out of hemp that was stronger, more flexible, lighter and more durable than steel. Not to mention, drug laws have created incredibly powerful and extremely wealthy criminal enterprises and rampant organized crime…and much of these exploitative opportunists are currently controlling this nation and its government.

This is one of the only times I can recall in which I was disappointed with the Alex Jones Show, because Jones did not call a guest on his or her ignorant statements, and attempt to set the record straight, as I have come to expect from him. I truly hope this does not indicate a detour from his present course, Jones is the only person who I feel has proven time and again to be completely “incorruptible”. With the most critical and mitigatingly intrinsic factor governing his abilities and passion, being…they are natural and permanent, and to stray from them would destroy him. The extremely powerful nature of Jones’ soul literally demands that he follow a particularly lofty road, or risk becoming an even more powerful, and destructive, alter ego.

This nation is in uncharted territory, and extremely serious and turbulent times are on the horizon. History is being made on the Jones Show on a daily basis and this is the worst time for “hot heads” to be injecting divisive and extremely alienating personal views into the mix. The Constitution of the United States of America is very clear, nobody has the right to infringe on another’s life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, so long as that pursuit does not infringe on another’s life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Hippies, philosophers, dreamers and lovers also have their place in this free society, right beside to the warriors, and all honorable contributions must be fully utilized. This nation can no longer afford to marginalize such a large portion of its population, and ignorantly continue to pigeonhole and discriminate against Cannabis smokers. Almost every person I have ever known that smokes Cannabis on a regular basis is very responsible and works a steady job; it is the person, not the weed. Conversely, it is the pervasive misinformation and propaganda stomped into peoples brains by the MSM, which are the real enablers of the destruction in this nation. Nugent should take his own advice which states “guns do not kill, people do”. A lazy, good for nothing person will be that way regardless of whether they smoke pot or not. Maybe Nugent would like to try Prohibition again, as well. How truly sad, for such an obviously fervent and passionate American to be so obtusely opposed to one of the most critically essential facets in the jewel of FREEDOM.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 01:33:20 PM »

WHY is pot the most important thing in some peoples lives? This is a serious question.Why is pot the driving force behind so many people on this forums activism?
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 01:35:18 PM »

 hemp makes + paper and rope   we could  im peace  them and tie them up in paper and string

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 02:29:04 PM »

Reply to epinlasvegas' retarded comment:

Why do people read posts and only see what they want to see? Hey, epinlasvegas, what is it in this article that says to you "pot is the most important thing in my life?" If you do not understand the incredible significance of Hemp and Cannabis in these United States then you are blinded, lazy and inept, while refusing to do any research. I ask, why is beer so important to people? Why is crack cocaine so prevalent and definitely the most important thing in far too many peoples lives? Obviously including the afore mentioned.

The medicinal, and completely natural, benefits of Cannabis, alone determines its importance. You, my friend, are the ignorant one to not realize it is neither yours nor anybody else's job to grant merit for this gift of nature, it is fully capable of doing that for itself.

Note that those who think as you do will be on the recieving end of true patriot's lead contributions, if it comes to that. You strike me as a person who believes that Cannabis makes people stupid. On the contrary, stupidity is inherent and permanent. Sucks to be you...hater!

Yes, ignorant, creepy veracity benders like you really piss me off!!!
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 02:44:41 PM »

Reply to epinlasvegas' retarded comment:

Why do people read posts and only see what they want to see? Hey, epinlasvegas, what is it in this article that says to you "pot is the most important thing in my life?" If you do not understand the incredible significance of Hemp and Cannabis in these United States then you are blinded, lazy and inept, while refusing to do any research. I ask, why is beer so important to people? Why is crack cocaine so prevalent and definitely the most important thing in far too many peoples lives? Obviously including the afore mentioned.

The medicinal, and completely natural, benefits of Cannabis, alone determines its importance. You, my friend, are the ignorant one to not realize it is neither yours nor anybody else's job to grant merit for this gift of nature, it is fully capable of doing that for itself.

Note that those who think as you do will be on the recieving end of true patriot's lead contributions, if it comes to that. You strike me as a person who believes that Cannabis makes people stupid. On the contrary, stupidity is inherent and permanent. Sucks to be you...hater!

Yes, ignorant, creepy veracity benders like you really piss me off!!!


Now you're sounding just like Ted Nugent did, good job.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 03:59:42 PM »

Reply to epinlasvegas' retarded comment:

Why do people read posts and only see what they want to see? Hey, epinlasvegas, what is it in this article that says to you "pot is the most important thing in my life?" If you do not understand the incredible significance of Hemp and Cannabis in these United States then you are blinded, lazy and inept, while refusing to do any research. I ask, why is beer so important to people? Why is crack cocaine so prevalent and definitely the most important thing in far too many peoples lives? Obviously including the afore mentioned.

The medicinal, and completely natural, benefits of Cannabis, alone determines its importance. You, my friend, are the ignorant one to not realize it is neither yours nor anybody else's job to grant merit for this gift of nature, it is fully capable of doing that for itself.

Note that those who think as you do will be on the recieving end of true patriot's lead contributions, if it comes to that. You strike me as a person who believes that Cannabis makes people stupid. On the contrary, stupidity is inherent and permanent. Sucks to be you...hater!

Yes, ignorant, creepy veracity benders like you really piss me off!!!
you prove my point! Why get so upset if pot is not your life?Calm down,pick up your bong and yell upstairs for mommy to bring you down some pringles and a yoo hoo
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 05:14:59 PM »

Hey epinlasvegas, mindf**k somebody else. Your shit don't fly in my zone. I don't mind sounding like Nugent, I never said I was perfect, just that I respect peoples right to choose whatever they like so long as it does not infringe upon somebody elses rights or cause abuse of the system.

I fight for womens rights...does that make me feminine? I fight for gay rights...does that make me gay? I instantly pegged you as a delusionally superior scumbag and a hater that is interested in one thing only...f**king with people. That is why you piss me off. If I caught you talking crap to someone I care about...the gloves would come off. What you say to me, is due the battle scenes I bring on myself, and therefore, are expected. As I stated I use Cannabis for medicinal purposes...LEGALLY. I am a cancer survivor, veteran, post fifteen years of violent torture with PTSD, IBS, etc... and I can guarantee you that if you got near me talking you propaganda and terroristic crap, I would send you straight back to HELL!

Amazing how people will ignore every ounce of logic in an attempt to attack somebody. You act as if I have some sort of problem, or am ultimately at fault, because I get pissed off at cheese dicks like you. Well, have fun in your lethargic and self preserving fantasy land cherry boy. You wouldn't last five minutes in my world.

To anyone else who wants to attack this article...be my guest. You expose yourself for exactly what you are. Much appreciated.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 05:27:33 PM »

Eat crap div, you lying moron. I am not the one saying that I would arrest somebody and throw them in prison, while ignoring their rights as a human. You scum really show how ridiculous you are when you make blanket statements that are completely baseless. So, genius, please do explain just how I sound like Nugent...or how I, as you so deceptively inferred, contradicted myself.

Let me help you all. It is likely you could not even lift my brain-pan, let alone attempt to compete with it. I guess baseless and manipulative attacks are all you've really got. Maybe I should just play nice nice and pity you all...NOT! I am truth, and nobody will ever change that, Period!
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 05:40:21 PM »

Eat crap div, you lying moron. I am not the one saying that I would arrest somebody and throw them in prison, while ignoring their rights as a human. You scum really show how ridiculous you are when you make blanket statements that are completely baseless. So, genius, please do explain just how I sound like Nugent...or how I, as you so deceptively inferred, contradicted myself.

Let me help you all. It is likely you could not even lift my brain-pan, let alone attempt to compete with it. I guess baseless and manipulative attacks are all you've really got. Maybe I should just play nice nice and pity you all...NOT! I am truth, and nobody will ever change that, Period!

You sound like Nugent because you're frothing at the mouth and acting like a douchebag. Someone says something that slightly disagrees with your views and you degenerate to name calling and saying how he's gonna get shot along with other incredulous statements.

Also, you aren't the first person to come on these forums and make a thread sensationalizing how miraculous smoking pot is. If your goal was to show us how pot smokers are mellow rational idividuals than I guess you're a poor representative.

But please, don't waste your einstienian-level intellect on peons such as myself. Don't you have a Mensa meeting to go to or something? Or better yet, why don't you use that great big noggin of yours to build a giant hemp phallus and then use it to go f**k yourself.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 05:46:23 PM »

And yes, you are damned right this is a sensitive issue for me. If anyone is going to come on a show as respectable as the Alex Jones Show and rant derogatory slurs towards me when they don't even know me but are openly discrimination against me, then I am certainly going to fire back with guns balzing. Nugent said openly that wherever he is, is not a gun free zone...then his words leave me no choice but to consider him an enemy combatant. I am legal in CA, however, the feds could still refuse to honor CA law. I would expect to hear some holier than thou crap like he was spewing on the MSM, but to hear it on a pristine media such as Prison Planet...!#$!!#@ sucks ass!
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 05:57:32 PM »

Like I said div, you only want to attack people. I don't even care that much about Cannabis you moron, I don't use it to get high. The issue is demonizing people and attacking people in an attempt to appear superior.

You are the ones acting like pricks and concentrating on the Cannabis rather than the issue that it is just one more in a long list of things perpetrated by rich manipulativd pigs in this nation, and I am very pissed off about it. Hemp is not even a drug, but you make no mention of my addressing that issue as well.

I don't know you, nor do I give a crap who you are. All I know is that you are a punk, and you seem to enjoy the nature of this failing nation. You seem to have swallowed the hook, line and sinker.

I never have, and never will claim to be mellow. I am incredibly intense and have been places you have likely only read about. If my statements of truth cause you to feel inferior or something, that is your problem. As I said, I speak only the truth...whatever it is.

I AM MAD AS HELL, AND I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE. I have been fighting the crap you just learned of yesterday, for over twenty five years. Why don't you find a site that is more your genre...like liars are us.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 06:07:57 PM »

And if you will note div, I did not attack Ted Nugent, just his one viewpoint. I also complimented him on many things, however, you so conveniently ignore that. I love Nugent's intensity, are you kidding? the interview went terrific right up until the very end. Moreover, I am very intense myself, and I meet all attacks with an increased level of conflict...believe me boyo, I am very adept at the frey.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 06:14:57 PM »

Also div, I don't care if somebody disagrees with "my views", however, these are not my views...they are fact!!! Do your research and quit attempting to play your pussy little games with me. You are definitely contributing to the degeneration of this society, and you sound more like a shill that has come in here to ply your misinformation, and attack people for the NWO. Go take a dirt bath.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 07:45:07 PM »

And anyway Div, you are a complete idiot and a liar. Neither you or the other guy "just slightly disagreed with my views" snivel'snivel'. That is a load of crap. Look at both of your statements in the very beginning (and the other ones). You both came in here and did nothing but attack me personally. You did not even say anything about the issue, just that I was a prick or some crap for talking about a pertinent and popular subject.

Now, personally, I don't give a fat rats flying f**k at a rolling shit doughnut what you want to say about the issues, but if you want to just walk in the room and take a poke at me....my bad, I am certain to knock your teeth down your throat. I never have enjoyed it. I think that is fair. Moreover, I did not say anything to epinlasvegas but the facts. That if he is for tyranny and abuse of power, then he will certainly be at an extremely increased risk of ending up at the recieving end of a great deal of lead, most likely delivered via some rather pissed off, or scared, patriots' barrels; and in my personal view, justifiable.

Crawl back under the rock.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 08:18:24 PM »

You sound like Nugent because you're frothing at the mouth and acting like a douchebag. Someone says something that slightly disagrees with your views and you degenerate to name calling and saying how he's gonna get shot along with other incredulous statements.

Also, you aren't the first person to come on these forums and make a thread sensationalizing how miraculous smoking pot is. If your goal was to show us how pot smokers are mellow rational idividuals than I guess you're a poor representative.

But please, don't waste your einstienian-level intellect on peons such as myself. Don't you have a Mensa meeting to go to or something? Or better yet, why don't you use that great big noggin of yours to build a giant hemp phallus and then use it to go f**k yourself.

And anyway Div, you are a complete idiot and a liar. Neither you or the other guy "just slightly disagreed with my views" snivel'snivel'. That is a load of crap. Look at both of your statements in the very beginning (and the other ones). You both came in here and did nothing but attack me personally. You did not even say anything about the issue, just that I was a prick or some crap for talking about a pertinent and popular subject.

Now, personally, I don't give a fat rats flying f**k at a rolling shit doughnut what you want to say about the issues, but if you want to just walk in the room and take a poke at me....my bad, I am certain to knock your teeth down your throat. I never have enjoyed it. I think that is fair. Moreover, I did not say anything to epinlasvegas but the facts. That if he is for tyranny and abuse of power, then he will certainly be at an extremely increased risk of ending up at the recieving end of a great deal of lead, most likely delivered via some rather pissed off, or scared, patriots' barrels; and in my personal view, justifiable.

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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2008, 08:25:36 AM »

I stand corrected!If anyone needs pot it's you.I would throw in some SSRI's as well.Seriously if you have medical problems and such go for it.I think it is crazy that pot is not legal for medical purposes.Just relax man and be well. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2008, 11:05:19 AM »

Like I said div, you only want to attack people. I don't even care that much about Cannabis you moron, I don't use it to get high. The issue is demonizing people and attacking people in an attempt to appear superior.

You are the ones acting like pricks and concentrating on the Cannabis rather than the issue that it is just one more in a long list of things perpetrated by rich manipulativd pigs in this nation, and I am very pissed off about it. Hemp is not even a drug, but you make no mention of my addressing that issue as well.

I don't know you, nor do I give a crap who you are. All I know is that you are a punk, and you seem to enjoy the nature of this failing nation. You seem to have swallowed the hook, line and sinker.

I never have, and never will claim to be mellow. I am incredibly intense and have been places you have likely only read about. If my statements of truth cause you to feel inferior or something, that is your problem. As I said, I speak only the truth...whatever it is.

I AM MAD AS HELL, AND I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE. I have been fighting the crap you just learned of yesterday, for over twenty five years. Why don't you find a site that is more your genre...like liars are us.
And if you will note div, I did not attack Ted Nugent, just his one viewpoint. I also complimented him on many things, however, you so conveniently ignore that. I love Nugent's intensity, are you kidding? the interview went terrific right up until the very end. Moreover, I am very intense myself, and I meet all attacks with an increased level of conflict...believe me boyo, I am very adept at the frey.
Also div, I don't care if somebody disagrees with "my views", however, these are not my views...they are fact!!! Do your research and quit attempting to play your pussy little games with me. You are definitely contributing to the degeneration of this society, and you sound more like a shill that has come in here to ply your misinformation, and attack people for the NWO. Go take a dirt bath.

And anyway Div, you are a complete idiot and a liar. Neither you or the other guy "just slightly disagreed with my views" snivel'snivel'. That is a load of crap. Look at both of your statements in the very beginning (and the other ones). You both came in here and did nothing but attack me personally. You did not even say anything about the issue, just that I was a prick or some crap for talking about a pertinent and popular subject.

Now, personally, I don't give a fat rats flying f**k at a rolling shit doughnut what you want to say about the issues, but if you want to just walk in the room and take a poke at me....my bad, I am certain to knock your teeth down your throat. I never have enjoyed it. I think that is fair. Moreover, I did not say anything to epinlasvegas but the facts. That if he is for tyranny and abuse of power, then he will certainly be at an extremely increased risk of ending up at the recieving end of a great deal of lead, most likely delivered via some rather pissed off, or scared, patriots' barrels; and in my personal view, justifiable.

Crawl back under the rock.

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Wow, all those posts just for me? I feel special.

Trying to act macho on the internet isn't going to win you anything short of making yourself look retarted. If you want to write out a legible argument without the pointless insults and e-threats, than be my guest. But if a comment like epinlasvegas' first post was all it takes for you to turn into a raving lunatic than I guess it's pointless to say anything to you. But if you can prove me wrong and act like a civilized person, go ahead and do it, but until then this is what you seem like...

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2008, 03:47:59 PM »

We have a steep learning curve on this forum. We learn quickly by the example of others.

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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2008, 07:56:12 PM »

Hey man, don't bring Eddie into this, he didn't do anything.  Sad
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"No", says the man in Moscow, "it belongs to everybody!"
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2008, 09:15:37 AM »

Wow, all those posts just for me? I feel special.

Trying to act macho on the internet isn't going to win you anything short of making yourself look retarted. If you want to write out a legible argument without the pointless insults and e-threats, than be my guest. But if a comment like epinlasvegas' first post was all it takes for you to turn into a raving lunatic than I guess it's pointless to say anything to you. But if you can prove me wrong and act like a civilized person, go ahead and do it, but until then this is what you seem like...



If you can prove you have a brain, and are not just in here to attack people, then I am certainly willing to act in what you attempt to represent as a "civilized" manner, however, I know passive aggresive when I see it.

One problem is that you do not even understand the quote you have place under "eddie". I do not need such overt representation, I literally live and breathe the saying "don't tread on me".
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2008, 06:03:50 PM »

Hey man,  UP THE IRONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 09:00:20 PM »

Hey man,  UP THE IRONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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