What if...they completely did away with the gold standard?

[deconstructmyhouse]

I mean, is it possible?  I'm trying to think like an Illuminati here (just for a sec, I'll stop as soon as I feel like eating a baby)... what better way to completely rob everyone and destabilize and restructure from the ground up with 100 percent illuminati rules. 

If they can claim gold is the standard, could they not also claim one day that it is not and completely devalue it?  Turn into a worthless commodity and leave everyone holding bags of shiny, pretty, worthless baubles.

Is this even possible or am I dreaming?

[Cruise4]

No... it's well possible. Congratulations on thinking outside the box. One example is backing money with Land. Then no-one can own land or collect it. Property rights and all that, are still enshrined and there's far more details but then you could have a birthright of the countries land and resource value divided by the genuine population... so everybody would be wealthy initially and along with free energy and antigravity, the end of any housing issues and growing your own food results in TRUE FREEDOM for the first time. The laws an ass, we can govern ourselves and the payment mechanisms are probably technologically available. At this point you can be any philosophy you want. Capitalist? Go right ahead. Environmentalist? Go right ahead. Do nothing but contemplate life? Now you can. It solves everyone's issues. And with no economic inheritance, large scale corruption ceases to be possible. As houses aren't bought and sold they are not economic and are yours until you relinquish them by death or wish. You can still have your son living there after you. Bureaucracy is reduced to nearly nothing. Taxes are unnecessary. No welfare, pension or 'National' health service is needed. Education could be organised by the community or home. And anyone wishing to utlise land and resources beyond a normal use or for profit, ie. Oil companies, would have to pay compensation or rent directly into OUR accounts. That's the ONLY TAX. Works a treat. This is freedom. Then we 'let' society naturally develop new mechanisms. As we haven't had freedom, lets not ruin it's development before we start by predetermined ideas and constructs.

[Geolibertarian]

I mean, is it possible?

Dude, where have you been? They completely did away with the gold standard decades ago.

[Kregener]

Dude, where have you been? They completely did away with the gold standard decades ago.

I concur!

DId you sleep through it or something?

And....if you are forced to pay "property taxes", you DO NOT own your land.

These tools were put in place, as stated above, DECADES AGO.

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[Geolibertarian]

And....if you are forced to pay "property taxes", you DO NOT own your land.

And if you are forced to pay "wage taxes," you do not own yourself.

[deconstructmyhouse]

Dude, where have you been? They completely did away with the gold standard decades ago.

Dude, I'm not talking about doing away with tying the gold standard to the dollar, which is what Reagan did. Dude, Duh.  I'm talking about something much more fundamentally radical: doing away with gold even being worth anything at all. As in, okay this used to be a very big deal, everyone fighting over it and all, but we've decided to decree that it's not anymore.  like: that's a nice shiny bauble...but we stopped assigning value to it, as in any sort of value: it's now like colored glass or something. I mean, gold is valuable only because people agree to assign it value, right?

another twist:
Here's what I think: I think they might close down the mint. Seriously, I think they might soon outlaw making any more gold or silver coins.  Only the big bars would be available (and only the filthy rich can buy those)  They'll shut down the dealers and the traders and just put a lid on it.   And the coins won't be any good, won't be usable for buying or selling at least till this debacle is well over...which could be decades if they get their amero union going.   



   

[Geolibertarian]

Dude, I'm not talking about doing away with tying the gold standard to the dollar, which is what Reagan did.

Actually that's what Nixon did.

I'm talking about something much more fundamentally radical: doing away with gold even being worth anything at all.

That's not what the term "gold standard" refers to, but whatever. Redefine it any way you want.

[Cruise4]

"Dude, where have you been? They completely did away with the gold standard decades ago."

I thought he meant, if they bring it back.

"And....if you are forced to pay "property taxes", you DO NOT own your land."

In case thats related to my post... No property tax. Definately not. Slavery straight away if that's allowed.

"And if you are forced to pay "wage taxes," you do not own yourself."

Exactly right. Tax must only be derived from profit. However compensation isn't tax, and tax could be removed completely.

[deconstructmyhouse]

That's not what the term "gold standard" refers to, but whatever. Redefine it any way you want.

You are right, I was careless. The correct term is "gold coin standard" for what I am talking about.

[deconstructmyhouse]

Actually that's what Nixon did

Again you are right. Carelessness is my middle name.  I knew it was one of those dark haired handsome (lol) republican dudes.

But seriously...they could shut down the mint and the traders and declare gold coins worthless for trading. n'est pas?  I think they are flirting with that.