Amazing-interview with WTC asst designer/Bombs were BUILT IN to the buildings

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Official Laffoley Site

This is an 18-minute segment from a larger Radio Orbit interview with Paul Laffoley: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Laffoley

Laffoley was on the architectural design team for the World Trade Center. Laffoley DOES NOT subscribe to any of the conspiracy theories on 9/11. However, in this interview he talks about how explosives were BUILT IN to the towers. I have a vague memory of hearing information like this a while ago, but it was only when I heard this interview that it established credibility for me. He also talks about Yamasaki's relationship with the Bin Ladens.

I've been meaning to edit and post this for a while now. The 9/11 truth group that I'm involved in really wanted to hear this, so I was finally motivated to do it today.

A bit of a slow start. Fast-forward to 10:21 if you want some build up, or go to 11:42 if you just want the punchline.

This really is an Amazing interview, bombs were Built into the Building!

Download via a torrent Client by downloading the torrent attatched below or by visiting http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.html?info_hash=b59819476f9fcb58ec401881471f4750ac4bc3c5
where the original torrent was posted

Edit:  Here's a direct download link - http://rapidshare.com/files/55308468/R-Orbit_Laffoley_designing_WTC_052107.mp3.html

Edit 2:Ok I have uploaded the file so as to allow either streaming or direct download , just go
here http://www.musicwebtown.com/gratefuldead/playlists/114163/882602.mp3 to either listen to or download a shortened version of the file.  I had to cut the file drastically to make it small enough to upload, but it still has the statement by the man, just no introduction of who he is or why he is qualified.  I realize this cut file poses a problem, so i suggest downloading the full file from either the rapidshare link, or through a torrent client.

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Satan, God, H.P. Lovecraft and Other Mephitic Models: An Interview With Paul Laffoley
by Robert Guffey

http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/mephiticmodels.html

BIO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Laffoley

So tried to download the mp3 through the conspiracy.net website, which I had to sign up for and can't get nor will not allow me to log in.  So now I'm listening to the quicktime link on the wikipedia footnotes.

The article above talks about his artistry and exhibits, not a whole lot on his architectural prows. In fact the wikipedia excerpt:

"According to Laffoley, he spoke his first word, "Constantinople", at the age of six months, and then lapsed into 4 years of silence. He attended the progressive Mary Lee Burbank School in Belmont, Massachusetts, where his draftsman's talent was ridiculed by his Abstract Expressionist teachers. After attending Boston public schools for a short time, Laffoley matriculated at Brown University, graduating in 1962 with honors in Classics, Philosophy, and Art History. Laffoley has written that, in his senior year at Brown, he was given eight electroshock treatments.

In 1963, he attended the Harvard Graduate School of Design, and apprenticed with the sculptor Mirko Basaldella before being dismissed from the institution. In a search for expanded opportunities, Laffoley came to New York to work with the visionary Frederick Kiesler, and was recruited by Andy Warhol, who wanted someone to watch television for him at all hours of the night. Laffoley watched television in the pre-dawn hours, before programming had actually begun. Following his dismissal by Kiesler, Laffoley worked for 18 months on design for the World Trade Center Tower II (floors 15 to 45) with Emery Roth & Sons under the direction of architect Minoru Yamasaki. Following his suggestion that bridges be constructed between the two towers for safety, he was summarily fired by Yamasaki and returned to Boston."

You will notice that nowhere does it say that he has an engineering or architectural degree.  So I'm really having a problem that this guy is qualified to gauge, comment, and/or design the structural integrity of a building.   You will also notice that I'm not even discussing the other glaring comments that are listed in the above information. 

During the interview, he even admits that he was not qualified to do architecture and had been told so by 16 other firms.  The only reason he was hired onto Emery Roth & Son was to work on a design team that really was there for show and were not called on to do any designing. 

Further, while during the interview he admits that he is not an engineer while describing an anecdotal story of the Bin Laden construction group touring the construction site.  He comment that the Saudi engineers had asked him, "Where would you put explosives."  So you will notice that the interviewer then made a leap of logic to say that the building was designed with explosives already in place.  Which he never confirmed but alluded that they knew how to bring the building down by being there during the construction.

This makes no sense as far as a time line is concerned because by his admission he was dismissed at the urging of Yamasaki due to his design plans calling for bridges every five stories.  Aside from jumping from North and South Towers to WTC 7 building which more than likely would have been planned by a different team.  It is unimaginable that one team would do all the buildings.

As to explosives being included in the design of the building, one immediately has to ask the question, "Why would you include explosives into a structure?"  Aside from the inherent danger of premature detonation of said explosives, how would you get the building inspector to sign off on that.  The inherent danger of rigging a 100 story building to come down with no fool proof measure to prevent this from occurring would keep any inspector from putting their signature to a design or inspection.

So for all the above reasons both by admission and hypothesis, it is my opinion that this guy is a delusional idiot who I wouldn't allow design a birdhouse let alone a building that would be inhabited by humans.

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Glaring comments? this is a glaring comment

So for all the above reasons both by admission and hypothesis, it is my opinion that this guy is a delusional idiot who I wouldn't allow design a birdhouse let alone a building that would be inhabited by humans.

Obviously your more qualified on the subject than the team that hired him to help design the WTC towers....
The man graduated from Harvard Garduaute school with a design degree, with which he used to obtain a job designing the WTC towers, and i don't believe they hire "unqualified" people. You said

You will notice that nowhere does it say that he has an engineering or architectural degree.

whereas i went to wikipedia and read

He also obtained his formal Architectural License in October 1990

.  Why pick and choose what information to highlight, the man was there. He helped design the towers, and says he was asked where one would put  demolition charges by a group of saudi engineer's.  When asked why they wanted to know this, they say, specifically, "this is how buildings are designed in now, one minute they're here, and then six months later, they're gone." 

Why you would leave all that out of your "summary" is beyond me....which is kind of derogatory/condescending by the way.  I, unlike you, do not think this information is in any way useless.  Yes, he is an artist, a very prominent one at that- the many worked with andy warhol.  An artist who initially, thirty some odd years ago, wanted to go into Architectural design.  And following this course initially lead him to WORK ON THE WTC DESIGN TEAM>  there is  no denying that, which, indeed, makes him qualified to speak on the subject.  As for the explosives and the bin ladin contractor connection, seems plausible to me, if a little underhanded.

For anyone interested - i didn't realize the original source for the audio file was on wikipedia, you can download the full interview there, or stream the snippet i cut and uploaded, or use any of the other methods i provided.

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UHHH...the WTC was built before 1990.  How could he have a degree that he obtained in 1990 when by his own admission, his involvement in the WTC was in 1963!  So he didn't have a engineering degree!!!!  The WTC was completed in 1972!!! According to the interview.

You talk of "cherry picking" facts but you failed to mention the other facts that by his own words is how they occurred.  He is the one that said that he was hired to Emery Roth and Son to sit on a design team and do nothing!!!!  The fact that he said that he went to 16 other firms and was asked can you do this or this and wasn't hired because he wasn't qualified.  He bring this up in the relation to the number 17 which to him has some numerological significance. 

Count how many times he said he was dismissed or fired.  Dismissed is a euphemism for fired.  He brings up working for Andy Warhol, but again by his own admission he was hired by Warhol to watch a test pattern on the TV from 2-6am!! Help me out with how that is going to help any artist be a better artist? 

The list goes on and on.  I also notice you brought up the explosives.  Point out to me and everyone else where he confirms that explosives were placed in to the building.  The interviewer alluded to it but he did not confirm it.

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UHHH...the WTC was built before 1990.  How could he have a degree that he obtained in 1990 when by his own admission, his involvement in the WTC was in 1963!  So he didn't have a engineering degree!!!!  The WTC was completed in 1972!!! According to the interview.

UHHHHHH first of all I was never discussing an engineering degree, you were......second, he obviously obtained his Architectural License in 1990 after he completed his work on the world trade center by several decades.  What your saying is someone who obatins expert status cannot comment on issues happening before he received his qualification.  so you history majors are screwed, and none of you new structural engineers/Architects are qualified to testify on anything that occured before your received your license.

He is the one that said that he was hired to Emery Roth and Son to sit on a design team and do nothing!!!!  The fact that he said that he went to 16 other firms and was asked can you do this or this and wasn't hired because he wasn't qualified.  He bring this up in the relation to the number 17 which to him has some numerological significance.

Count how many times he said he was dismissed or fired.  Dismissed is a euphemism for fired.

none of this detracts from the fact that the man graduated from Harvard Graduate school with a design degree, with which he used to obtain a job designing the WTC towers.  While there, he was approaced by Saudi Engineers who wanted to know they best spot to place exlposives DURING construction.  He does not say Bombs were built into the building.  I'm sorry for the copy paste job, it was late, look at the time i edited it last 3:40 am.  He said I was approached by people wanting to place bombs in the building, not bombs were placed in the building...

and as for

He brings up working for Andy Warhol, but again by his own admission he was hired by Warhol to watch a test pattern on the TV from 2-6am!! Help me out with how that is going to help any artist be a better artist?

  obvously your not familiar with andy warhol........

I don't see how you can say he's unqualified when HE WAS THERE ON THE DESIGN TEAM.

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"none of this detracts from the fact that the man graduated from Harvard Graduate school with a design degree, with which he used to obtain a job designing the WTC towers. "

How did obtain a degree in 1990 to be hired to work on a project that started in 1963 and ended in 1972? 

"What your saying is someone who obatins expert status cannot comment on issues happening before he received his qualification.  so you history majors are screwed, and none of you new structural engineers/Architects are qualified to testify on anything that occured before your received your license."

How about you let me say what I'm saying.  I'm saying that because of his admissions within the tape of the interview does not lead credibility to me believing anything that comes out of this man mouth. 

I'll point out that you have never said I miss quoted him.  However, you misquoted by saying, "When asked why they wanted to know this, they say, specifically, "this is how buildings are designed in now, one minute they're here, and then six months later, they're gone." 

No he said that as providing the audience a frame of reference to why they might ask the question.

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for your info maddogen - i didn't delete the other post, an admin did.  I am simply concerned about getting the info out, as opposed to you, who spitefully try to turn it into a pissing contest or sorts.

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How did obtain a degree in 1990 to be hired to work on a project that started in 1963 and ended in 1972?

Seriously?  ok, again, Shorter sentences this time. He received a graduate degree in DESIGN, i.e. drafting artsy floorplans etc.  He worked on the WTC design team.  He became a licensed architect in 1990.  Two different things, i'd say that makes him more than qualified.

 

I'm saying that because of his admissions within the tape of the interview does not lead credibility to me believing anything that comes out of this man mouth.

So because he wasn't able to get job prior to JOINING THE WTC DESIGN TEAM, he is no longer qualified to speak about what happened while worked there?

I'll point out that you have never said I miss quoted him.  However, you misquoted by saying, "When asked why they wanted to know this, they say, specifically, "this is how buildings are designed in now, one minute they're here, and then six months later, they're gone."

No he said that as providing the audience a frame of reference to why they might ask the question.

even though this link is above, i'll post it again

http://www.musicwebtown.com/gratefuldead/playlists/114163/882602.mp3

the audio is messed up but you can still tell what they're saying