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Offline Typhoon

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Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« on: September 12, 2008, 02:13:53 pm »
Nearly all the presidents of the US have been members in secret societies, like Bush was in Skull&Bones, Kerry was also a member of Skull&Bones and so on..

Now to Obama and McCain; are they members of any secret societies or are they just Illuminati puppets??
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2008, 02:34:19 pm »
I know that Obama is related to both George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.  On top of this, neither of the candidates were born in America.

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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 02:35:13 pm »
I would consider the CFR as a secret society.
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2008, 02:38:24 pm »
I'm sure some secret societies are puppets of other secret societies. So it's probably more of a question of what particular groups they belong to.
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2008, 02:46:15 pm »
How does this even matter?

Both want to kill and/or enslave over 80% of the world population.

What does their membership in secret societies matter?

Things have gotten so f-d up that they do not even hide it anymore.

Iraqis know that Obama is not offering any change to their slaughter and just read Obama's latest book to see all of the enslavement programs.  He wants children raised by the state from the age of zero.  He agrees with the thought crime homegrown terrorist bill.  McCain wants to be in Iraq for 100 years, wants to tear down the borders and has chosen eye candy as an election distraction.  He is not even eligible to be president.

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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2008, 07:51:31 am »
It matters a lot.

Imagine if they are not initiated freemasons, they don't know anything about the occult and the magic involved in the master plan. This could mean that both Obama & McCain are just puppets not even knowing what they are part of. McCain is too radical, he wants to kill as many people as he likes, so we cant influence this guy.
But what about Obama? Can we change his mind to bring him to investigate 911?

Remember Abraham Lincoln, he wasnt a member of freemasonry and although he made it to the top. He wanted to reveal the conspiracy and consequently got killed.
Lincoln is an example for that, that the americans are not completely chanceless. Everything is controlled by secret societies. So if we have a president that isnt a member of such societies we can bring him up against the Illuminati.
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2008, 08:08:57 am »
good question..I'm sure that obama and mccain, are at least freemasons?...or just puppets in the show?..
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2008, 08:29:22 am »
How does this even matter?

It doesn't. ALL these scum bags are working for the same Evil...it makes no difference. The Beast has spread like wildfire...and these politicians have already sealed their fate.

I'd like to hear Obama or McCane say that at their next CFR or Bilderberg meeting.  ::)
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2008, 08:46:33 am »
What ive found so far

Obama.

Martinist order.

Martinism itself - which is a Mystical tradition in which emphasis is placed on Meditation. This was founded in the 18th Century by Louis-Claude de Saint-Martin, and was formalised in 1888 by Augustin Chaboseau and Gerard Encausse (aka Papus).
The Elus-Cohens. This relies on Theurgy (i.e. Ritual Magic) to attain the same ends as Martinism. The Elus-Cohens were founded by Martinez De Pasqually, who was Saint-Martin's teacher. The original Elus Cohens ceased to exist sometime in the late eighteenth or early nineteenth century, but it was revived in the 20th century by Robert Ambelain, and lives on today in various Martinist Orders, including the branch reinstigated by Ambelain himself.
The Scottish Rectified Rite or Chevaliers Bienfaisants De La Cité-Sainté (CBCS). This was originally a Masonic rite, a reformed variant of the Rite of Strict Observance which, in its highest degrees, uses Masonic-type rituals to demonstrate the philosophy which underlies both Martinism and the practices of the Elus-Cohens. The CBCS was founded in the late 18th Century by Jean-Baptiste Willermoz, who was a pupil of Martinez de Pasqually and a contemporary of Saint-Martin. The CBCS has managed to survive as a continually practiced rite from its founding until the present day, both as a purely masonic rite, and as a detached rite which is also open for women.
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32nd Degree Prince Hall Mason
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His wife sits on the board of the chicago CFR.
Michelle Obama
Vice President for Community and External Affairs, The University of Chicago Medical Center
http://www.thechicagocouncil.org/chicago_council_board_directors.php

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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2008, 08:55:52 am »
McCain

CFR Member
The Trilateral Commission
Cindi McCain wares the same Phoenix Pin as does Hillary Clinton. Illuminist?
Bilderberger

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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2008, 09:23:24 am »
It doesn't. ALL these scum bags are working for the same Evil...it makes no difference. The Beast has spread like wildfire...and these politicians have already sealed their fate.

I'd like to hear Obama or McCane say that at their next CFR or Bilderberg meeting.  ::)


I truly believe the beast is who they worship..the reptillian draconian beasts who they think holds the keys to the universe..and will give them technology and wonders...mccain is a dangerous guy..I think obamas more likely to pull a JFK, and try to break the demonic hold.
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2008, 09:30:20 am »
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I think obamas more likely to pull a JFK, and try to break the demonic hold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY4R6lbD8s&feature=related
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2008, 10:28:21 am »
Obama & McCain: Criminal NWO Puppets- 'Saddleback'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU135Oo7oJw

Elections inc.: Obama -CFR & NWO Puppet Deception- pt.1/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zlywNGbViM
Elections inc.: Obama -CFR & NWO Puppet Deception- pt.2/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgjDhSaTOzc&feature=related
Elections inc.: Obama -CFR & NWO Puppet Deception- pt.3/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BivJsVtCp8I
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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2008, 12:15:36 pm »
Martinist symbol

32nd Degree Prince Hall Mason
CFR member

Cool. Thats what i was looking for thx! In the Martinist symbol you can see the 2 triangles symbolizing the joining of 2 opposites. Thats an Illuminati doctrine, also depicted in the double headed eagle of the 33°


McCain
CFR Member
The Trilateral Commission
Cindi McCain wares the same Phoenix Pin as does Hillary Clinton. Illuminist?

The Phoenix tells me that they are definitely part of the Illuminists. The phoenix is a winged dragonsnake also adored by Illuminists as a symbol for the beast.
May be looking like this:
"I have met with the Antichrist... He is cruel and intrepid. He frightened me." - Adolf Hitler
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them." - J.R.R. Tolkien

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Re: Obama, McCain - members of secret societies?
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2008, 12:18:17 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY4R6lbD8s&feature=related

LOL  :D i had to laugh at the comments:


Serge808 (5 days ago)
hah theres no secret handshake (people laugh in the background) .YOU f**kING SHEEP.

Serge808 (5 days ago)
that zbig guy is a f**king alien
"I have met with the Antichrist... He is cruel and intrepid. He frightened me." - Adolf Hitler
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them." - J.R.R. Tolkien