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I know there are a lot of flaky people out there claiming to be from various religions. It's wrong to insult Buddhists (or other groups) as a whole though. If you think your entire listening audience falls within the Christian category, you are mistaken. Believe as you wish, but don't alienate through hate speech. I don't want to listen to someone who groups me with NWO trash based on my religious beliefs.
I don't believe in Lucifer, although I don't doubt that some serve what Lucifer represents. Evil or darkness exists in all religions and cultures. It's too common of a mistake to say that non-Christians serve Lucifer. I could attack Christianity, but who am I to tell even the most extreme fundamentalist that what they believe is wrong?
Sadly it's always the extremists, who insultingly or violently proselytize, that understand their religions the least. All I want is for an end from the insults from Alex...
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I know there are a lot of flaky people out there claiming to be from various religions. It's wrong to insult Buddhists (or other groups) as a whole though. If you think your entire listening audience falls within the Christian category, you are mistaken. Believe as you wish, but don't alienate through hate speech. I don't want to listen to someone who groups me with NWO trash based on my religious beliefs.
I don't believe in Lucifer, although I don't doubt that some serve what Lucifer represents. Evil or darkness exists in all religions and cultures. It's too common of a mistake to say that non-Christians serve Lucifer. I could attack Christianity, but who am I to tell even the most extreme fundamentalist that what they believe is wrong?
Sadly it's always the extremists, who insultingly or violently proselytize, that understand their religions the least. All I want is for an end from the insults from Alex...
So tell me, why in your first paragraph do you choose Buddhists... then parenthetically add, "and other groups"...? Then in your second paragraph, by the inclusion of the peaceful Buddhists, you have cleverly set the tone, for an attack on Alex's rants against Luciferians... the largest contingent of whom, propagate the major evils against life that we associate with the New World order... I think you've deliberately attempted to defame Buddhists... I don't think that was very nice... considering that in the higher orders 33rd degree and up of the Masonic "Religion", you find the most heinous and ugly groups and individuals. These folks truly believe they are doing God's work in the name of Lucifer by culling the human herd... the order of death among them... Alex knows, and is attempting to disseminate this information... AND, you come in here whining and manipulating. You do not seem to understand that religious freedom stops, at that point where the primary rights of others, namely the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, are violated, whether directly or indirectly by the activity of any individual or group, be they secular or religious... This constitutes the highest of crimes... And your whining here, will get you nothing more than my close scrutiny. --Oldyoti "What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." -- Rep Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts. 1-Annals of Congress, at 750, 8/17/1789 |
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Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than going to a hospital makes you a doctor.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 11:38:23 PM » |
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JT,
I'm Buddhist so the idea that I'm trying to defame Buddhists isn't the effect I was going for. As for the part about "and other groups", I was just trying to be inclusive rather than tricky. Please trust that I'm not trying to setup a platform to support servants of evil, that's really not what I was aiming for. I have nothing against Alex talking about those who would serve Lucifer or any other type of evil. I'm grateful for the work of Alex Jones, his staff, and the millions of people who have opened their eyes in this fight.
It's not whining, it's a legitimate point about something that Alex said during the show. I'm a supporter of Jones and generally agree with the points that he tries to make. I know he's a Christian and I know a lot of the listening audience probably is. I just don't want to see religion divide us. I've made the same point in Alex Jones chat rooms. I see people who are passionate about their ideas, who get distracted from those things that bind us together. We may not come from the same backgrounds, but the NWO is a threat to all of us. That is my point which I don't expect Alex to promote... all I'm asking for is a little consideration. I have zero doubts about the threats we're facing.
Don't get the wrong idea about me, I want to see an end to the NWO and I think he's doing a lot of good. I just don't want people to get turned off because of a comment made in the heat of the moment. This battle isn't one that affects just Christians, it's a fight that affects people of all faiths.
I'm not worried about scrutiny. I'm not here to be a troll or cause problems. We're on the same team, regardless of whether we perfectly understand each other. I'm not looking to spread any disinfo here or anywhere else.
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I understand the intent of your post... but your premise masks the understanding, that not all religions are peaceful or benign. By that, I mean, some religion is steeped in subterfuge and deception...
To compare Buddhists with those, none dare call them religions systems that mask their dealings under the flag of secularism, with an agenda of secrecy, hidden behind nonreligious respectability... is the wrong thing to do.
The most important thing we have to combat predatory hidden societies, is a 230-year-old agreement... signed into law, that places life and liberty for all, above religious freedom... in other words life and liberty, as well as individual pursuit of happiness, trump religion, to the extent that religion cannot transcend the individual's right to these fundamentals.
What these hidden religions, which include many atheist sect's, as well as the Masons, have skillfully done, is they have placed themselves on par with the very law itself by placing secularism and the appearance of non-religion on a footing which has the power to interpret law, to change the very meaning of the law... While all the while underneath, they are the most hedonist and destructive, ritualistic and sacrificial religion that can be imagined.
They need to be unmasked and disposed of as the anti-life, anti-liberty, murderers they are... that is the distinction that must be drawn when you start lumping these guys in with Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, the Jewish, and the practitioners of traditional Islam...
These murderers have "tools" within existing religions... infiltrating and steering, yet for all intents and purposes they are completely separate... underneath, most religious systems have been infiltrated by these secret destroyers... examples would be the Zionist Jews, the Wahhabist Muslims, and the Zionist Christians... whose sole purpose in the end is to destroy the religions, by setting all of them against one another as obfuscation... so the secret destroyers can even further infiltrate and control the governing of nations to bring in a NWO...
I hope this helps.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 08:50:28 AM » |
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I know there are a lot of flaky people out there claiming to be from various religions. It's wrong to insult Buddhists (or other groups) as a whole though. If you think your entire listening audience falls within the Christian category, you are mistaken. Believe as you wish, but don't alienate through hate speech. I don't want to listen to someone who groups me with NWO trash based on my religious beliefs.
I don't believe in Lucifer, although I don't doubt that some serve what Lucifer represents. Evil or darkness exists in all religions and cultures. It's too common of a mistake to say that non-Christians serve Lucifer. I could attack Christianity, but who am I to tell even the most extreme fundamentalist that what they believe is wrong?
Sadly it's always the extremists, who insultingly or violently proselytize, that understand their religions the least. All I want is for an end from the insults from Alex...
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 09:08:30 AM » |
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I know there are a lot of flaky people out there claiming to be from various religions. It's wrong to insult Buddhists (or other groups) as a whole though. If you think your entire listening audience falls within the Christian category, you are mistaken. Believe as you wish, but don't alienate through hate speech. I don't want to listen to someone who groups me with NWO trash based on my religious beliefs.
I don't believe in Lucifer, although I don't doubt that some serve what Lucifer represents. Evil or darkness exists in all religions and cultures. It's too common of a mistake to say that non-Christians serve Lucifer. I could attack Christianity, but who am I to tell even the most extreme fundamentalist that what they believe is wrong?
Sadly it's always the extremists, who insultingly or violently proselytize, that understand their religions the least. All I want is for an end from the insults from Alex...
WHOA!!!!! I never heard Alex insulting non-Christians...EVER. This is why he doesn't even like talking about religion. Yes, he is Christian and he has every right to talk about being a Christian or Pray with someone on air if they request it...but to say he insults other religions...I NEVER heard him do that. Do you have a audio or video link of this, please?  |
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WHOA!!!!! I never heard Alex insulting non-Christians...EVER. This is why he doesn't even like talking about religion. Yes, he is Christian and he has every right to talk about being a Christian or Pray with someone on air if they request it...but to say he insults other religions...I NEVER heard him do that. Do you have a audio or video link of this, please? Double WHOA!!! |
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2008, 09:37:07 AM » |
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Double WHOA!!!
The non-Christians Alex was going after two days ago... were the Luciferians... with their tentacles woven deeply into the Masonic orders, and driving the growing mysticism that is infiltrating other mainstream religions... My previous posts point this out... as well as the fallacy of generalizing it as Alex going after religions other than Christianity... which is bullsh*t, and totally untrue! --Oldyoti When my country, into which I had just set my foot,
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2008, 10:03:14 AM » |
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I guess one cannot criticize the practice of sati, for instance, just because it is covered by the generic term religion.
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2008, 10:05:20 AM » |
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The non-Christians Alex was going after two days ago... were the Luciferians... with their tentacles woven deeply into the Masonic orders, and driving the growing mysticism that is infiltrating other mainstream religions...
My previous posts point this out... as well as the fallacy of generalizing it as Alex going after religions other than Christianity... which is bullsh*t, and totally untrue!
--Oldyoti
When my country, into which I had just set my foot,
was set on fire about my ears, it was time to stir.
It was time for every man to stir."
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YES!!! Good for him...I've been waiting for Alex to post a link of that interview. Alex, please post a link for that, very interested in seeing that interview. Thanks bud. It was an ongoing rant... not an interview... Here is the link... http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4385996 or http://www.mininova.org/tor/1784140JTCoyoté "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."
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Awesome JT!!!! Appreciate it Sir.  /Salute |
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2008, 10:39:08 AM » |
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I guess one cannot criticize the practice of sati, for instance, just because it is covered by the generic term religion.
Who owns the woman, but herself, is this not her choice..? Does she take the life or liberty of another against their will by performing this rite..? Who do you punish for the secular act of suicide..? If YOU choose to intentionally run into the path of a speeding car... and I witness it, should I be charged with murder for not stopping you..? Who owns you but you... To ban such an individual rite as Suttee would be beyond the power of government, it would be usurpation, a pronouncement of defacto ownership... to discourage the practice however, would be appropriate... Within Hinduism, this practice is not commanded, it is allowed. JTCoyoté "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."
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Double WHOA!!!
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2008, 11:05:34 AM » |
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I listen to the show every day. I have yet to hear Alex insult non-religious people.
Where's your example?
Oh you don't have one...
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2008, 11:25:24 AM » |
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the only religion I have ever heard attacked on AJ is my own, Catholicism, and not by him directly, by his guest Jordan Maxwell, who, while understanding a little, really doesn't get the big picture. I have seen what statements like Jordan Maxwell's have done to the minds of truthers in regards to the position of the Catholic church. If anyone is interested in knowing what is really happening, please feel free to PM me and I will fill you in.
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2008, 12:44:53 PM » |
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WHOA!!!!! I never heard Alex insulting non-Christians...EVER. This is why he doesn't even like talking about religion. Yes, he is Christian and he has every right to talk about being a Christian or Pray with someone on air if they request it...but to say he insults other religions...I NEVER heard him do that. Do you have a audio or video link of this, please? I listen to him *every day* and he has done it. He did it yesterday during his statements about "Luciferians" and specifically mentioned Buddhists, he has done it before. I'm not saying that it was a long-winded attack or anything like that. I get the feeling that he sometimes says stuff in the heat of the moment and perhaps he doesn't mean it the way that it comes across. I don't want this to be an anti-Alex Jones thing. I'm an Alex Jones supporter, I just don't like having my religion insulted. All I intended to do was bring it up because sometimes we do things without realizing that hey I'm offending some people. I've made verbal gaffes, as I'm sure we all have. I think Alex is a good guy, so I'm not saying that he's doing anything with malice. I just want him to know that there are non-Christian listeners who are devout nonetheless. I'm not looking for an apology or anything like that, I just wanted to bring this up so that Alex doesn't alienate people who otherwise are behind him 100%. In Houston alone we have one of the biggest Buddhist populations in the south. I've let it slide before, but yesterday I said enough of this. We need to be united not divided. I have no problem with him promoting his own beliefs, I just don't want my religion to be disrespected. |
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2008, 12:49:56 PM » |
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I listen to him *every day* and he has done it. He did it yesterday during his statements about "Luciferians" and specifically mentioned Buddhists, he has done it before. I'm not saying that it was a long-winded attack or anything like that. I get the feeling that he sometimes says stuff in the heat of the moment and perhaps he doesn't mean it the way that it comes across. I don't want this to be an anti-Alex Jones thing. I'm an Alex Jones supporter, I just don't like having my religion insulted.
All I intended to do was bring it up because sometimes we do things without realizing that hey I'm offending some people. I've made verbal gaffes, as I'm sure we all have. I think Alex is a good guy, so I'm not saying that he's doing anything with malice. I just want him to know that there are non-Christian listeners who are devout nonetheless. I'm not looking for an apology or anything like that, I just wanted to bring this up so that Alex doesn't alienate people who otherwise are behind him 100%.
In Houston alone we have one of the biggest Buddhist populations in the south. I've let it slide before, but yesterday I said enough of this. We need to be united not divided. I have no problem with him promoting his own beliefs, I just don't want my religion to be disrespected.
I've heard him talk about the Luciferians and I APPLAUD him on that. Other than that...I have NOT heard him say anything bad about any other Religion, sorry. Rebuking the Devil is a pretty good deal in my book. |
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I'm a degenerate, impious, anti-theist, and it doesn't bother me. If I get pissed off every time someone attacks me for something or another, I'll have a heart-attack at 30.
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2008, 12:58:31 PM » |
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the only religion I have ever heard attacked on AJ is my own, Catholicism, and not by him directly, by his guest Jordan Maxwell, who, while understanding a little, really doesn't get the big picture. I have seen what statements like Jordan Maxwell's have done to the minds of truthers in regards to the position of the Catholic church. If anyone is interested in knowing what is really happening, please feel free to PM me and I will fill you in.
I have to look at the totality of what Alex Jones does and say that he is a force for good. So I don't nitpick everything he says, but yesterday wasn't the first time he said something that could reasonably be considered offensive about someone's religion. I already made my points. Yes his rant was about Luciferians, but in the same rant he insulted Buddhists. I listened to the show and I heard it. I have nothing against Alex fighting forces of evil. I think he does a great job. He is one of the best hosts out there. Moderators can monitor me and people can call me a troll, I don't care. I'm not anti-Alex Jones, in fact I've been a huge supporter for a while. I listen to him every day during the week as well as his Sunday show. I often defend Alex and the points that he makes. I watched all of his coverage during the DNC. He is a voice in the wilderness and I'm grateful for all he has done. |
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JT said he was talking about Luciferians, so how would this insult Buddhists did he mention something specifically Budhists are evil? Personally i didnt listen for a while, so I cant tell but the shows that I did listen to I have never heard of him, talk down about other religions, is it just me or is it the same situation as people claim Alex hates Mexicans, because he talks about la raza, and doesnt like it? EvadingGrid: Dude seriously go take a shower or something, if someone has a different opinion he's automatically a troll? Great Job!  Be happy he's not calling all of us cooks, because we know about the NWO. |
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One of the things I most respect about Alex Jones is his ability to point out the groups perpetrating the evil in our world while simultaneously not falling into the false religious division paradigm. I am non-Christian and have yet to be offended by AJ and his guests. The only person I have ever seen Alex Jones directly insult was Michelle Malkin, she deserved it to for enabling the sickness inside our nation. As for some forum posters...well, it IS a BBS.
And try to understand where the mods are coming from, the board is under serious attack. Like picking up an old log in the forest, the light of truth is making the carrion eaters scurry about, trying to burrow back into the darkness, hiding from the light.
What the old song dog was saying was be careful about 'pairing' labels in your posts. It's a classic mind war tactic to bring one label up then pair it with something foul in order to disparage the former with the latter. No one was accusing you of it, they were just wanting clarification (which you provided).
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2008, 12:51:18 PM » |
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I'm not a Christian. Nor do I recall Alex insulting my beliefs or non-Christians. Let's not forget we are all flawed humans.
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2008, 09:12:01 PM » |
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He has never insulted non-Christians, or any religious group or sect that respects life... liberty, and individual persuit...
Now to those who believe in human sacrifice, torture, and infanticide as a religion... though non-Christian, and not in keeping with the first article of the Bill of Rights and it's understanding of what a LAWFUL religion is... Especially when given the main tenant of the enabling document that gave birth to the Constitution... namely the Declaration of Independence.
Therefore, it should be understood that any group or sect, that doesn't respect, or runs contrary to the unaleinable rights of individual life... individual liberty... individual pursuit of happiness... any group or sect that believes in human sacrifice... even by effigy, torture, mutilation, etc. etc.... Which would include those sneaky little "we are a religion" Devils, the Luciferians... well in this case, Alex isn't slamming another religion in the Constitutional context, he's slamming the "let's eliminate 95% of the world's population", globalists and their "religion" which
is Genocide... and that's no religion at all.
Therefore... Alex does not slam Religion... he is only slamming the purveyors of DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You know what insults me? Nutty schizophrenic Christians calling in to tell Alex that they have 40 pages of bible mumbo-jumbo to read because it vaguely relates to the Russian conflict, or the economy, or attacking Iran. Usually sound like either toothless morons or middle-aged women who haven't left their house in 10 years. All I can think when they call is "I wonder how many cats that lady has". Anyone else feel the same? |
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I did a youtube video talking about the documentary about Bohemian Grove wherein I offered a friendly criticism of him making fun of the Wiccans. At the same time, as a Wiccan, I did agree with him that the "love and light to those who will be having ritual here later" was ignorant and ridiculous. I didn't take that as him insulting my religion. I took it more as him simply not having a basis of understanding, and that was probably his first run-in with Wiccan people.
My own criticism of the Wiccan community deals with the fact that the fluffy bunny love and light approach is bordering on ridiculous, and this was well illustrated in the Bohemian Grove documentary. We do believe in living with love, and the threefold law is very important, but there is one line in that which Wiccans seem to forget "Lest in thy self defense it be".
We are at war with those who would kill us. This IS self defense, and I believe the time for pink fluffy loving light surrounding the earth is over. I watch Wiccans raise these amazing cones of power. Don't get me wrong, I recognize the power of love and positive thought. At the same time, I recognize the power of 100 chanting Wiccans, and that power could be used in an act of war. The Germans did it during WWII, and the British Wiccans sent it right back at them on Lammas night. I think modern Wiccans need to take a second look at that part of our history.
But I digress.
I listen to Alex Jones daily - sometimes his entire show and sometimes the snippets that come up on youtube. I have NEVER heard him insult another religion in a way that I would find particularly offensive - to me or anyone else. I've read the writings of Anton LaVae, and he's a bastard of the highest order. His writings make sense on the surface; however, when you attach yourself to the darkness (which is what "Lucifer" represents to most people), then there is no room for light. He was unbalanced, as was Crowley. Both of them are fascinating men, but not people to emulate.
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2008, 01:52:08 AM » |
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You know what insults me? Nutty schizophrenic Christians calling in to tell Alex that they have 40 pages of bible mumbo-jumbo to read because it vaguely relates to the Russian conflict, or the economy, or attacking Iran. Usually sound like either toothless morons or middle-aged women who haven't left their house in 10 years. All I can think when they call is "I wonder how many cats that lady has". Anyone else feel the same? Nope... Being somewhat of a toothless moron myself, missing 8 on the top and 4 on the bottom... I have four cats... and a coyote... his name is Duke... I have a wife and a daughter and we all live together, in little house across from the post office in a mountain community nestled in a valley at 9170 feet surrounded by 14ers,... I spend at least five hours a day moderating yours and others fantasies here... with occasional breaks of sanity... Winter is 7 months long this high... and the Bible, and other books get read a lot, when the snow flies and the logs burn hot... Because of Alex's own beliefs, he is completely capable of dealing with out-of-control over-the-top Christians... and his methods are generally quite entertaining, if you haven't noticed... without the occasional nut job of whatever persuasion, the show wouldn't be quite as much fun... and if you called in and said what you said above, I'm sure Alex would have fun with you too... --Oldyoti "Through adversity you make men,
yet with plenty they produce monsters."
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2008, 08:09:42 AM » |
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Nope... Being somewhat of a toothless moron myself, missing 8 on the top and 4 on the bottom... I have four cats... and a coyote... his name is Duke... I have a wife and a daughter and we all live together, in little house across from the post office in a mountain community of 9170 feet surrounded by 14ers,... I spent five hours a day moderating yours and others fantasies here...with occasional breaks of sanity... Winter is 7 months long this high... and the Bible, and other books get read a lot, when the snow flies and the logs burn hot... Because of Alex's own beliefs, he is completely capable of dealing with out-of-control over-the-top Christians... and his methods are quite entertaining, if you haven't noticed... without the occasional nut job of whatever persuasion, the show wouldn't be quite as much fun... and if you call in and said what you said above, I'm sure Alex would have fun with you too... --Oldyoti "Through adversity you make men,
yet with plenty they produce monsters."
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"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" ~ {2 Corinthians 6:14}
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2008, 11:17:41 AM » |
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Nope... Being somewhat of a toothless moron myself, missing 8 on the top and 4 on the bottom... I have four cats... and a coyote... his name is Duke... I have a wife and a daughter and we all live together, in little house across from the post office in a mountain community of 9170 feet surrounded by 14ers,... I spent five hours a day moderating yours and others fantasies here...with occasional breaks of sanity... Winter is 7 months long this high... and the Bible, and other books get read a lot, when the snow flies and the logs burn hot... Because of Alex's own beliefs, he is completely capable of dealing with out-of-control over-the-top Christians... and his methods are quite entertaining, if you haven't noticed... without the occasional nut job of whatever persuasion, the show wouldn't be quite as much fun... and if you call in and said what you said above, I'm sure Alex would have fun with you too... --Oldyoti "Through adversity you make men,
yet with plenty they produce monsters."
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2008, 01:13:20 PM » |
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Oh boy. I can't win You were expecting to win something with your post above?? Medusa72... A very good friend of mine is Wicca... and understands that seven word phrase "Lest in thy self defense it be", very well. There are evil ones within all persuasions, and only through experience and understanding can you tell who they are... I will take 500 of those "slightly over the edge" Christians, that sajorojas say insult him, anytime... compared to one like George Bush. Oh, and then there is this... Nope...
Being somewhat of a toothless moron myself, missing 8 on the top and 4 on the bottom... I have four cats... and a coyote... his name is Duke... I have a wife and a daughter and we all live together, in little house across from the post office in a mountain community nestled in a valley at 9170 feet surrounded by 14ers,... Here is a picture of my buddy and I enjoying some scrambled eggs.  --Oldyoti "Better fare hard with good men
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2008, 01:34:05 PM » |
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You were expecting to win something with your first post above?? No You made your point much better with your second post... What second post? |
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2008, 01:50:57 PM » |
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NoWhat second post?
My bad... there I was ready to exonerate you for Medusa72's post... sorry, I have made the necessary changes to my post... consider yourself unexonerated...  --Oldyoti "Better fare hard with good men
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2008, 04:38:18 PM » |
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My bad... there I was ready to exonerate you for Medusa72's post... sorry, I have made the necessary changes to my post... consider yourself unexonerated... --Oldyoti I'm not gonna let you let me get away with it that easily. and if you call in and said what you said above, I'm sure Alex would have fun with you too... Roll Eyes
--Oldyoti I've always wanted to call in with what I've said above, however I probably wouldn't fit in without my bible verses. Also, I have a pretty bad stutter, and therefore have consideration for the listener. Something them cat-ladys don't seem to.  |
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2008, 11:08:39 PM » |
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Dogonit Rojas... went to give you a pass... and you reject me... so... in my dejected melees... I guess I'll just have to ban you... consider yourself banned... By the way... what do you think of my dog? --Oldyoti "Better fare hard with good men
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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2008, 09:38:21 AM » |
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By the way... what do you think of my dog?
Well, if I ever had a dog, I'd want one like that. I'm allergic to dogs, but I feel like if I were around them enough I might get over it. And a dog would be a good friend to have when the shit hits the fan.  |
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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2008, 09:52:43 AM » |
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As I said before, I haven't heard Alex insult any particular religions. My suggestion to everyone, of any religion, don't focus on religious titles. Decide for yourself if a person is good or evil. We have all made mistakes before. Few people are truly evil. It just so happens that a good portion of those people appear to be in power.
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"God is truth, trust not religious doctrine, seek the truth, and you will find God." -Me, Kenneth
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2008, 10:03:31 AM » |
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Here is a picture of my buddy and I enjoying some scrambled eggs. --Oldyoti JT, that's really cool that you live up in the mountains. 10,000 ft sounds very nice. I've been to some of the highest peaks in N. America and someday I hope to live at about 10,000 feet. I notice that a lot of mountain property in the Rockies and Cascades rents/sells for cheap. Is it hard to make a living while being so far a way from civilization? |
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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2008, 11:26:23 AM » |
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Today's first hour rant on the show... Alex is in rare form... it is a must listen... his first hours the last month or so have been incredible... full of valuable dot connecting information. As to living in the mountains... I have always lived in or around them, the cost of living here is as high or higher than anywhere else in the country. Property is scarce and pricey... we live very close to three large ski resorts... the closest being about 9 miles away... the area is a vacation spot, fishing, hunting, hiking and biking and mountain climbing, as well as skiing... so civilization comes to us so to speak. As to religion, religion is very much an individual thing... as the founding fathers knew all too well... any time an organized religious system begins forcing its doctrine... it doesn't matter what religion, in many cases religion masked as non-religion... is against the idea of free exercise as protected by the Constitution. In any case, religious experiences, and the affects of these experiences upon individual lives, cannot be codified or dogmatized to where they exclude fresh experience and still be considered true religion... and that brings me back to my "dog". My "dog"... well it's a long story... in the picture he is five months old. This last winter in the Summit County Colorado high country, was an uncommon 8 months long, and deep with snow. So my wife, daughter, and I, decided that a week long trip in April to the Four Corners area, of Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, and Colorado, and warm weather would break the cabin fever quite nicely. We were on our way to Flagstaff, to hang out at Meteor Crater and Lowell Observatory, ending up with the 4 Corners loop of ancient Indian dwelling sites. On our first day out, the morning of April 7th, an event occurred on a lonely stretch of two lane highway in the high desert plains of south-western Colorado, that was to change our lives. Cruising along, the car crested a small rise that descended into an arroyo, crossed a small bridge and began the climb up the other side... when I noticed a dead animal in our lane immediately ahead. Slowing to about 50 MPH, I swerved the car into the other lane to avoid hitting it. We continued the short distance to the top of the hill for better visibility, where I made a U-turn back down, and pulled off the road across from the freshly killed Coyoté. I grabbed my work gloves from behind the seat and rushed over and pulled the beautiful young female to the shoulder of the road. She was obviously killed instantly, maybe 10 minutes before we arrived. She was struck hardest through the mid-section at the bottom of her ribs on her right side, which broke her spine, and shot her insides out of her bottom onto the road... or so I first thought. What happened next can only be described as tragic, yet at the same time, miraculous. After pulling her from the road and placing her onto the shoulder, I went back to retrieve her insides from the asphalt, so the carrion eaters, ravens and such, wouldn't be surprised while feasting and meet the same fate she did. I reached down to pick up the first piece from the lane, only to realize that it was an unborn puppy. A shock went through me... it wasn't her insides on the road at all, it was the life that had been inside of her! The first little one was run over, so I quickly moved it to the shoulder. I picked up two more, both were unopened amniotic sacs. I checked them for life... but, there was none. Too much time had elapsed and they had drowned, suffocated, or were killed by the impact. The last sac was further down the road closer to where the mother was first hit. This pup however was mostly out of the sac. I could hear a faint squeaking and I saw all four of the little boy's limbs in the air slowly moving, as I approached. This little guy had taken his first breath when his mom had taken her last... I picked him up and looked him over, he responded as I touched him... I blew a breath on his little wet face, and he reacted by wincing his little nose and brow, this one is alive I thought to myself. Feeling his little paws and legs, he seemed in one piece, and okay. I quickly pulled out my pocket knife and cut the sac away, and cut his umbilical which we tied later. I ran with him in my gloved hand, over to the car and handed him to my wife. I hurried back over to double check, making sure that everything was cleaned from the road and checked the other pups again, making sure they were not playing possum, it was not to be. I arranged the pups around their mom as if they were nursing and looked into her still life like eyes, with a stroke of her brow, giving my unspoken promise... then I ran back to the car. We had a couple of gallons of home town spring water with us and my wife was busy cleaning the little fella up... She inspected him from his nose to the tip of his tail. He didn't even have a scratch! He obviously went through one "heckuva way to get borned"... to use an extremely appropriate country colloquialism. We spent the next two hours driving to the closest town and gathering up all kinds of puppy supplies, everything from some Puppy formula, which was all we could find. A dropper, some towels, a baby bottle for a kitten, the smallest one we could find, since he was less than 7 inches long from the tip of his tail to his nose, and maybe 6 ozs in weight! My wife determined that his squeaks were sign that he had good lungs, and his heart was strong, and it was obvious he was as hungry as hungry could be. Getting him to drink his first two teaspoons of puppy formula was easy and he was soon fast asleep inside my wife's cupped hands. He took to the little rubber nipple like a pro... He ate strong from his first feeding, and made hardly a peep the remainder trip... he slept with the girls, curled up on the pillow nestled in their hair... and saw the sights with us, mostly asleep snuggled warmly inside our Daughter's sweater. He was the life of our vacation...  The 6 day old Duke gulps down his morning bottle of warmed goat's milk, with the help of my step-Daughter, in this April 13th photo. At this point, he was drinking four of these 1.5 ounce bottles, that is almost his weight in milk every day... hungry puppy... (chuckle)...Anyway in my world, this event classifies as a religious experience... -Oldyoti "The government turns every contingency
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